tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post2609560522989139608..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Christian kids..SHUT UP... But Muslim kids CAN pray...what?Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-11619463719518278252013-07-04T12:12:22.839-07:002013-07-04T12:12:22.839-07:00Nice one, FT.
I hope you saw my comment with a lin...Nice one, FT.<br />I hope you saw my comment with a link above FULL of God's wishes that we pray together, too.<br /><br />Prayer is good, period...and to think that young American men feel of a mind to is encouraging...but I hate to get too encouraged because I see so much of quite the opposite!<br />Instead of encouraging goodness, we're discouraging it with laws and rules and such seemingly erudite discussion of right and wrong. I remember when we needn't have asked if something was right or wrong. We knew.<br /><br />have a great day.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-23879796813961377942013-07-04T09:29:32.972-07:002013-07-04T09:29:32.972-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-46327197702619718842013-07-04T09:29:32.710-07:002013-07-04T09:29:32.710-07:00But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet...<b><i>But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.</i></b><br /><br />~ Matthew 6: 6: King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition<br />FreeThinkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682678301019952436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32424673878885760132013-07-03T21:17:33.149-07:002013-07-03T21:17:33.149-07:00Impertinent - I can't find anything in that to...Impertinent - I can't find anything in that to disagree with. We've long strayed from the concept of Federalism that implied power to the States except in enumerated cases.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-31767663646951549392013-07-03T21:10:12.756-07:002013-07-03T21:10:12.756-07:00In just a little over two hundred years this count...In just a little over two hundred years this country has deteriorated horribly during that time. So much degeneration in such little time.<br /><br />The founders made good provisions for the protection against government abuse, but the system itself allows for miscreants within to manipulate things almost any way they want, including swaying public opinion for or against a cause, a person or an issue, mostly by seizing the organs of communications and entertainment.<br /><br />And an apathetic electorate is a factor in it all as well. And size, too. The country has become so large... elected representatives no longer represent anyone but themselves.<br /><br />But in spite of it all, much of the deterioration could have been prevented by setting the system up to allow the electorate to vote on issues via referendum.<br /><br />We will be much better off if we can split apart into like-minded sovereign areas that are smaller, vote via referendum, and are homogeneous.<br /><br />It's way too late to change things.Impertinenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949905441786404348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-42150228754122716382013-07-03T21:08:30.147-07:002013-07-03T21:08:30.147-07:00"I kinda liked that Pelosi quote."
It w..."I kinda liked that Pelosi quote."<br /><br />It will go down as a keeper in the Congressional Hall of Shame!Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-54094903117453892972013-07-03T21:03:44.982-07:002013-07-03T21:03:44.982-07:00Yeah, well I thought it got missed. I kinda liked ...Yeah, well I thought it got missed. I kinda liked that Pelosi quote.Ed Bonderenkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03724552853113809036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-17649021703008153232013-07-03T20:52:52.874-07:002013-07-03T20:52:52.874-07:00And I'll bet the busturd has a prayer rug and ...And I'll bet the busturd has a prayer rug and a foot bath and long silky white robes....IN THE EAST ROOM OF OUR WH...<br /><br />And a private hot line to his favorite Imam.<br /><br />Maybe Snowden will release Obuttheads cell phone records? Wouldn't that be cool. Maybe the Ruskies already have them?Impertinenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949905441786404348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-80923095966547339212013-07-03T20:30:36.286-07:002013-07-03T20:30:36.286-07:00Ed - Apparently this is an important point for you...Ed - Apparently this is an important point for you, as you posted it twice. Congress maintains a Chaplain and open sessions with a prayer to this day. I'm not sure what the point is?<br /><br />I believe that a Government of citizens who subscribe to all faiths - and none...should be inherently secular in it's affairs.<br /><br />Many disagree, though I have little doubt that the tune would change if it were not a Judeo-Christian theme.<br /><br />And I get your reference at the end. 'Obamacare'...and the Patriot Act.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-15292846866278846952013-07-03T20:15:15.539-07:002013-07-03T20:15:15.539-07:00The Constitutional Convention held prayer.Silly Fo...The Constitutional Convention held prayer.Silly Founding Fathers knew so little about the Constitution, praying in a public funded venue.<br />Oh, they hadn't passed it yet.They had to pass it to know what was in it.Ed Bonderenkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03724552853113809036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32125196733567324932013-07-03T19:44:17.107-07:002013-07-03T19:44:17.107-07:00Imp...I'm still mind-blown at Walid's stat...Imp...I'm still mind-blown at Walid's statement...unbelievable.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-55411212043860466762013-07-03T19:39:42.541-07:002013-07-03T19:39:42.541-07:00I have a very close Jewish friend; My husband and ...I have a very close Jewish friend; My husband and I asked him if Christmas tunes in school and in department stores bothered him; if he resented "The CHRISTMAS party" at work, etc.<br />His response was "Oh, sure...i hate the thought of rosy cheeked children looking forward to Santa's arrival and I hated my having to sing those adorable songs in school..." Sarcasm, of course. He never felt put upon. Odd, maybe he's an anomaly.<br /><br />is it ME, or have we become maniacally outraged at things that really shouldn't be quite so outrageous?<br /><br />And, come to think of it, oddly compliant with things which really should outrage us.<br /><br /><br /><br />Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-38976364788473302312013-07-03T19:34:57.095-07:002013-07-03T19:34:57.095-07:00You're still conflating an individuals practic...You're still conflating an individuals practice of prayer and that of a collective.<br /><br />Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-86032132504147054352013-07-03T19:33:01.890-07:002013-07-03T19:33:01.890-07:00..........and welcomed and admired as multicultura.............and welcomed and admired as multicultural "how wonderful, how open we are"<br /><br />Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-36546566690498758032013-07-03T19:32:37.868-07:002013-07-03T19:32:37.868-07:00CI; fine. I don't care to go over it again. ...CI; fine. I don't care to go over it again. Let them build a tent off property and pray their heads off.<br />Good luck to them.<br /><br />And, by the way, those prayer rugs will be put on school property, too.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-40348930000079331982013-07-03T19:23:39.872-07:002013-07-03T19:23:39.872-07:00Z - "This is about praying as a team and it w...Z - "This is about praying as a team and it was always only about that."<br /><br />This is about praying during a school sponsored activity, and under the guidance of a school employee.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74452666211077733912013-07-03T19:21:08.492-07:002013-07-03T19:21:08.492-07:00Mustang, you have.
Many of us have questioned it ...Mustang, you have. <br />Many of us have questioned it but it's so outrageous a thought that I think islamists are counting on Americans saying "Oh, give me a break..that's NUTS, he is NOT!"<br /><br />I think they're counting on that in a lot of other cases, too.<br /><br />I mean, really, it does sound INSANE to think our president has islamist leanings! He was raised in a muslim school for a few years and he apparently gets a big kick out of muslim call to prayer, too, remember? But, heck, I have cultural Armenian leanings in many ways (none which have to do with its government's stances, by the way) but I was raised to love America, raised to know her history, raised to appreciate her values, raised to love the Founding Fathers, etc.....if anybody here can tell me what background Obama has in family or mentors or friends who are patriotic, let me know.<br />He's a weird one, that's for SURE.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-31193565792614885692013-07-03T19:17:26.994-07:002013-07-03T19:17:26.994-07:00CI, give me a break. Have I ever insinuated that ...CI, give me a break. Have I ever insinuated that I think prayer during school hours works for me? It does NOT.<br /><br />This is about praying as a team and it was always only about that.<br />Now you're telling me you have no problem with THAT?<br /><br />Scotty..please read my post and the comments.<br />Where's the disagreement with me again?<br />And, by the way, Dave suggested Scripture focuses on "praying alone" and I don't take away from his scripture but to use that against praying as a team is silly when there are SO many scriptures regarding God's desire that we pray together. You can't single out a favorite verse and negate the rest to make a point.<br /><br />Sometimes I feel like I'm commenting in Greek or something.<br />:-)<br /><br /><br />Imp..are you sure Walid said THAT? That's pretty 'out there'...<br /><br />Check out this email a friend just sent from Indiana:<br /><br />"When there was a democratic uprising against the imans in Iran (2008 or 2009), Obama said we don't interfere in the internal politics of another nation. When a democratic uprising occurred in Georgia (former USSR), he said the same thing and let them stay under the thunb of Putin. When the "arab spring" (radical Islam) uprisings came about in Libya and Egypt, he was all for interfering, but on the side of radical islam. When our ambassador and 3 others were murdered in Benghazi he said it was America's fault by allowing a video that criticized islam. Is there any doubt whatsoever who's side he is on now? "<br /><br />Obviously, my friend is NOT HAPPY :-_)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-6643930045653066902013-07-03T19:16:43.187-07:002013-07-03T19:16:43.187-07:00BTW...Walid Shabat is calling Obummer a "slee...<i>BTW...Walid Shabat is calling Obummer a "sleeper" for the Islamists.</i><br /><br />I told you this five years ago ...Mustanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06388694472897425202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61519924557244409582013-07-03T18:51:27.449-07:002013-07-03T18:51:27.449-07:00@Z:
"BUT he wants to take money back. Go fig...@Z:<br /><br /><b>"BUT he wants to take money back. Go figure..."</b><br /><br />He figured as long as the billions and the F16's and tanks were for the Islamist terrorists that have enslaved Egypt... were going to be used by them...it fit in with his ideas and acceptance of a Caliphate and Islamist militarism takeovers of their once secular governments.<br /><br />Same for Iran...that's why he didn't get INVOLVED in their short lived uprising.<br /><br />When are we going to get it that Obummer is all for this islamist revival? And doing everything he can to undo and topple true "democracy" rather than installing Islamist terror and theocracy as a form of "government".<br /><br />Looks like the Egyptians are wiser and smarter than we are today.<br /><br />The islamist brotherhood criminals underestimated the will of the Egyptians to reject sharia and the sickness that goes with it. <br /><br />And now they've underestimated that the Egyptian military would not turn on their own people...who by their own estimates, were over 21 million demanding this bums ouster.<br /><br />Now I hope it's their heads that are on pikes.<br /><br />Now I see it all unwinding with the islamists over reaching.<br /><br />BTW...Walid Shabat is calling Obummer a "sleeper" for the Islamists.Impertinenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949905441786404348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-30117619188058128232013-07-03T18:46:41.550-07:002013-07-03T18:46:41.550-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Impertinenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04949905441786404348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-16968137264188971402013-07-03T18:07:46.549-07:002013-07-03T18:07:46.549-07:00Oh, they hadn't passed it yet.
They had to pas...Oh, they hadn't passed it yet.<br />They had to pass it to know what was in it.Ed Bonderenkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03724552853113809036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-30716369370148061332013-07-03T18:07:41.989-07:002013-07-03T18:07:41.989-07:00Scotty, thanks for reminding me...
there is also t...<b>Scotty, thanks for reminding me...<br />there is also this huge list of encouragement to PRAY TOGETHER...:<br /><br /><br />http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Praying-Together/</b><br /><br />That doesn't negate what Dave or I said.Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16121811949825846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-2117689370676432013-07-03T18:07:32.750-07:002013-07-03T18:07:32.750-07:00The fundamental protection of the rights of a beli...The fundamental protection of the rights of a belief system should be enshrined, and they are. But not to the point where it forces alterations in public institutions unconnected with that belief system.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-85207762122392312932013-07-03T18:06:40.052-07:002013-07-03T18:06:40.052-07:00The Constitutional Convention held prayer.
Silly F...The Constitutional Convention held prayer.<br />Silly Founding Fathers knew so little about the Constitution, praying in a public funded venue.Ed Bonderenkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03724552853113809036noreply@blogger.com