tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post3704360920850531689..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: The Justness of our CauseZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-41460725591313417962009-01-26T12:37:00.000-08:002009-01-26T12:37:00.000-08:00"...closing Gitmo, with Barack, is probably leadin...<I>"...closing Gitmo, with Barack, is probably leading us to trials HERE, don't you think?"</I> (Z)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Not necessarily and actually, I don't think so.<BR/><BR/>They aren't seeking, so much to try these goons, but to get other countries to take them.<BR/><BR/>I still like the idea of returning to their home countries and letting those places know that they cooperated with us.<BR/><BR/>They tend to have a more stramlined, if less rigorous standard of justice in those places.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-60922581421713955862009-01-24T12:43:00.000-08:002009-01-24T12:43:00.000-08:00But, JMK...closing Gitmo, with Barack, is probably...But, JMK...closing Gitmo, with Barack, is probably leading us to trials HERE, don't you think?<BR/><BR/>We should take no prisoners. It would have been a lot easier.<BR/>THEY sure don't.<BR/><BR/>You're so smart and such a good writer and so well informed that I hope your blog grows and grows; more people need to read you.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-72382796896738988642009-01-24T11:52:00.000-08:002009-01-24T11:52:00.000-08:00"JMK....Blair disappoints; He wants Gitmo closed.....<I>"JMK....Blair disappoints; He wants Gitmo closed...BADLY."</I> (Z)<BR/><<BR/><<BR/>Blair's right. We weren't conducting the tribunals and we CAN'T allow ANY of these people to be heard in a U.S. court.<BR/><BR/>The best option, in my view, would be to return them to their home countries with "snitch" label...they may get some "justice" that way.<BR/><BR/>U.S. Special Forces DON'T take prisoners. Fast moving strike forces don't have provisions for prisoners, so it's an "everybody goes" (dies) situation, when they confront an enemy force.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-6733052793076248362009-01-22T22:12:00.000-08:002009-01-22T22:12:00.000-08:00"Hardened laws aimed at stoping terrorists might h..."Hardened laws aimed at stoping terrorists might have stopped terrorist attacks."<BR/><BR/>Well put, WVDOTTR....exactly.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-47562196423463798072009-01-22T20:19:00.000-08:002009-01-22T20:19:00.000-08:00A certain Vice president AL Gore had a lot to do w...A certain Vice president AL Gore had a lot to do with safety recommendations for aircraft.<BR/><BR/>Please, some people need to get their data straight. <BR/>ANd TOm Dachle's wife was a big time airliner lobbyist.<BR/><BR/><BR/>But, anyhow, hardened doors would not stop a terrorist attack.<BR/><BR/>Hardened laws aimed at stoping terrorists might have stopped terrorist attacks.<BR/><BR/>If only we just didn't fly planes, travel at all.<BR/>THAT would really reduce chances of attacks wouldn't it?<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>The comments from that speech are absolutely stupid.<BR/>I am sorry, but they are just plain old gobblety goop.<BR/><BR/><BR/>WVDOTTRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-59859176013642514932009-01-22T17:27:00.000-08:002009-01-22T17:27:00.000-08:00You've been told to move aside and stop the nonsen...<EM>You've been told to move aside and stop the nonsense.</EM><BR/><BR/>Are you referring to Obama's election duhkkky? it's hysteria. nothing more. The man has done nothing more than to get himself elected. <BR/><BR/>The ones who will fade are those like yourself duhkkky who have no moral courage or compass. Whose values change with the wind. The constant moral relativity couched in terms like 'progressive' and 'liberal'. That's what makes you dangerous duhkkky. <BR/><BR/>In fact I feel sorry for you. I think you're jealous. You wish you had moral clarity but instead you're mired in wishy washy politics and religion without relationship. <BR/><BR/>The only way you can justify your existence is to tear down the very thing you wish you had. <BR/><BR/>Move aside duhkkky? I don't think so.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-57328379567305777792009-01-22T15:17:00.000-08:002009-01-22T15:17:00.000-08:00JMK....Blair disappoints; He wants Gitmo closed.....JMK....Blair disappoints; He wants Gitmo closed...BADLYZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29778514793959021102009-01-22T15:10:00.000-08:002009-01-22T15:10:00.000-08:00GeeeeeZ, overall the inaugural address was a good ...GeeeeeZ, overall the inaugural address was a good beginning. It wasn't earth-shattering, and it wasn't pedestrian.<BR/><BR/>He had to walk a fine line between ebullience over the history of the occassion and the solemness of the times we're in...I think he hit that mark.<BR/><BR/>In the same speech he said, <I>"They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint"</I> he also said, <I><B>"We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense. And for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you."</B></I><BR/><BR/>The latter line strikes a very strong tone on the WoT.<BR/><BR/>As I've said to others, I'll certainly criticize the policies that are wrong-headed/Left-wing, but I'm not going to worry much over the closing of Gitmo, so LONG as none of those mopes wind up here in the USA, which isn't going to happen.<BR/><BR/>I'm not going to worry much about Iraq either at this point.<BR/><BR/>The surge eradicated the last of the insurgency and the Iraqi government already controls most of its domestic security. At this point U.S. forces are largely involved in the re-building process (not really our job) and training Iraqi military and police.<BR/><BR/>Obama is inheriting a situation where he can afford to draw down on iraq and accelerate the military intervention in Afghanistan.<BR/><BR/>I'd save the energy for real problems, like calling a plan that's comprised of at least half welfare spending (in the form of an increased EITC) a "tax cut."<BR/><BR/>The across-the-board income tax rate cuts INCREASED tax revenues every year since their inception. The $500 "middle class tax cut" that the incoming administration is promising won't INCREASE tax revenues at all and will increase the already groaning national debt.<BR/><BR/>On the WoT, we have the NSA intercepts (even Obama ultimately supported the Bill that gave the telecom companies immunity), Bob Gates is in as SoD and Dennis Blair is in as DNI...there's not going to be much more than cosmetic change in the WoT.JMKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281344324964417974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-43908371619634276592009-01-22T09:59:00.000-08:002009-01-22T09:59:00.000-08:00Any of us who have some humanity support charity b...<EM>Any of us who have some humanity support charity but those with sense know it is not enough in itself to resolve issues. </EM><BR/><BR/>Please provide a statment that I have made where I have ever suggested that charity was enough to resolve these very complicated issues.<BR/><BR/>Strawman Duhkkky.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-70887101298069026852009-01-22T09:58:00.000-08:002009-01-22T09:58:00.000-08:00and duhkkky I didn't mention my support of a chari...and duhkkky I didn't mention my support of a charity that works in Muslim nations because it feels good...I mention it because you think you can marginalize by stating that all conservatives think the same way. <BR/><BR/>We can play that game too duhkkky.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-85822704932909963722009-01-22T09:07:00.000-08:002009-01-22T09:07:00.000-08:00Your on the far religious right, Elmo. Your goal i...<EM>Your on the far religious right, Elmo. Your goal is the fulfillment of the eschatological destruction of earth.<BR/>Your time is over. You've been told to move aside and stop the nonsense.<BR/><BR/>But remember this about charity. Often it's there to make you feel good and little more.<BR/></EM><BR/><BR/>Since when duhkkky? Show me any statement where I have isssued such proclamations about the end times.<BR/><BR/>I have no idea when the eschatalogical destruction of the earth is...it may be in my lifetime...it might not be. If you knew anything about the Bible short of the Sermon on the Mount you'd know that Christ himself said no one knows the time nor the hour. <BR/><BR/>Until then I live my life with a short account both to God and to man. <BR/><BR/><EM>I don't know what countries you are digging wells in. Why not tell us.</EM><BR/><BR/>I financially support people who do duhkkky. I dug wells, built orphanages, schools and provided relief while I was in the service. I did it with a happy heart...not because it was my duty or because it felt good.<BR/><BR/><EM>Any of us who have some humanity support charity but those with sense know it is not enough in itself to resolve issues. </EM><BR/><BR/>What do you suggets duhkkky? A little chit chat with the terrorists? I suppose now you're going to suggest we find out Hamas' strategic goals.<BR/><BR/>I suggest a review of the conversation we had in which you displayed a disgusting lack of knowledge when it came to Pan Arabism and Pan Islamism...also as part of your class time I suggest a review of Hamas' website so that you can plan the next sit down for Hillary.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-49474447584325798192009-01-22T08:05:00.000-08:002009-01-22T08:05:00.000-08:00Z, I would like to believe that he was speaking fr...Z, I would like to believe that he was speaking from the precepts of our founding principles and not so much his own ideas. he may not believe we were just to go over there, but IF he is honest with himself then he knows we were.<BR/><BR/>Z, hope isn't hope if you can touch it or see it; that's why I will HOPE that he is the president we need him to be. <BR/><BR/>Blessings.I.H.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03861841487009504207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74769533810014259492009-01-22T07:42:00.000-08:002009-01-22T07:42:00.000-08:00Well the let's finish the conversation, Elmo. I ...Well the let's finish the conversation, Elmo.<BR/><BR/> I don't know what countries you are digging wells in. Why not tell us.<BR/><BR/> But remember this about charity. Often it's there to make you feel good and little more.<BR/> You'll still get a woody over the Gaza attacks and still consider all Arab interests subservient to Israel's.<BR/><BR/> You'll support trashing Lebanon, what was once a true democracy and then start mouthing some fairy tale about bringing democracy to Iraq after you supported trashing the country for no good reason.<BR/><BR/> Any of us who have some humanity support charity but those with sense know it is not enough in itself to resolve issues. <BR/> <BR/> Your on the far religious right, Elmo. Your goal is the fulfillment of the eschatological destruction of earth.<BR/> Your time is over. You've been told to move aside and stop the nonsense.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-86994935464155378032009-01-22T07:41:00.000-08:002009-01-22T07:41:00.000-08:00Misfit! TSK TSK. I don't want Ducky dead.I.H.S.....Misfit! TSK TSK. I don't want Ducky dead.<BR/><BR/>I.H.S.....Obama doesn't feel we were justified going into Iraq or Afghanistan. I see your point if I'm right that you're suggesting our 'just causes', fighting hard for what we think is right, will be our successes and keep us safe, but HE doesn't think they're 'just', so I'm not sure I follow you!<BR/><BR/>Am I correct in surmising that's what you mean? Instead of the naivite of obama's suggestion that 'if we are in the RIGHT, we are safe!'?<BR/><BR/>I like differences of opinion! I just don't like rudeness or belittling of conservatism here...like some commenters are want to do, I.H.S. <BR/><BR/>thanks so much.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-3810695663223317342009-01-22T05:45:00.000-08:002009-01-22T05:45:00.000-08:00Z, first off I appreciate the tone in which you re...Z, first off I appreciate the tone in which you respond. You always especially in resonding to what I've said with respect, and I think that is very admirable.<BR/><BR/>Now, to attempt to answer you what you have asked me. Yes, maam I was adressing the quote, because I do agree with you that we have enemies that could care less about our ability to restrain ourselves and show great humility. That is why I said this,"...but there does come a time when the truth of our abilities must be exercised effectively and concise".<BR/><BR/>Finally, look at the the statement of "...just cause" this way, are you secure in the decision that was made to go into Iraq and Afghanistan? would you agree that we had just cause to go? This is what I think and believe he meant by having security in the justness of our cause.<BR/><BR/>I hope I answered you alright, and again like I've said some weeks ago on another one of your posts; I'm by no means an expert when it comes to politics.<BR/><BR/>Blessings.I.H.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03861841487009504207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-87192141200269830742009-01-22T05:08:00.000-08:002009-01-22T05:08:00.000-08:00"The Syrians who live three doors up from me are p..."The Syrians who live three doors up from me are pretty friendly. They don't seem to want to kill me."<BR/><BR/>I find that hard to believe, they may not want to destroy America, but everyone wants you dead Ducky.Misfit410https://www.blogger.com/profile/04812162027802144987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-39802032903265103142009-01-21T22:47:00.000-08:002009-01-21T22:47:00.000-08:00I like Larry T Durhan's translation. I hate listen...I like Larry T Durhan's translation. <BR/><BR/>I hate listening to politicians speak. So uninspiring. So ambiguous. Such a pansy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-6179758853506365432009-01-21T20:01:00.000-08:002009-01-21T20:01:00.000-08:00Don't be too hard on poor Obama......he was just s...Don't be too hard on poor Obama......he was just saying what was on the teleprompter.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-89717689960351743032009-01-21T19:43:00.000-08:002009-01-21T19:43:00.000-08:00Z,BTW, I went to the Die Welt website. They had a...Z,<BR/>BTW, I went to the Die Welt website. They had a very interesting article on the rise of the "new Marxists." It's worth a read. Thanks again, for the heads up.Law and Order Teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11069306257334186404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-33275054126206578642009-01-21T19:29:00.000-08:002009-01-21T19:29:00.000-08:00I want all the Gitmo guys delivered to the White H...I want all the Gitmo guys delivered to the White House for housing.<BR/><BR/>Done!<BR/><BR/>I just wish someone at the WH these days would understand WHY we had them OFF our shores......I wish they'd understand THESE ARE VERY BAD GUYS! The left says they only hate us because we treat them badly!<BR/><BR/>They eat better than most Americans do and have free healthcare, etc etc...grrrr!!Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-28623142297901184712009-01-21T19:21:00.000-08:002009-01-21T19:21:00.000-08:00And so it begins. Delaying the tribunals for 120 ...And so it begins. Delaying the tribunals for 120 days is just the beginning. He'll cancel them if he can. <BR/><BR/>I am interested to see the food fight that is evolving over where to park the guests of the US in Gitmo. They're about as popular as nuclear waste or in Kennedy's case, wind farms. Around and around they go, where they will be dropped nobody knows. <BR/><BR/>This is not to mention the gargantuan costs of relocating them from a perfectly located prison. It gets really cold in Kansas. Their tootsies might freeze. I doubt they'll end up in Illinois. Or maybe we can put them in a cell with Blago.Law and Order Teacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11069306257334186404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-51515135767919089692009-01-21T18:39:00.000-08:002009-01-21T18:39:00.000-08:00Z you seem to have struck a chord with this one! I...Z you seem to have struck a chord with this one! I have noticed something though...<BR/><BR/>Day one. No hurricanes. Coincidence?<BR/><BR/>Obviously, Katrina was another failure of the free markets.DaBladehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16160781062081889980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-20118210561205071062009-01-21T17:55:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:55:00.000-08:00I think NObama, in his egotistical mind really doe...I think NObama, in his egotistical mind really does believe he has all the answers, but we know otherwise. He knows nothing about military life or values, he was never in the military. He knows not what it is like to be hard pressed to provide for a family, he's never been poor. He can't fathom what a real job entails, he's never had one. It's not just a lack of experience as concerns politics or being a leader or making executive decisions that is missing from his resume, its his inexperience in ANYTHING valuable that is so alarming. The ONLY hope I can cling to is that he is a fast enough learner to overcome his deficit background. I continue to pray that I am wrong, but I doubt it.Average Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211406136371011324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-5688724477368336382009-01-21T17:34:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:34:00.000-08:00will be back later..ALL of you; great comments!!!will be back later..<BR/><BR/>ALL of you; great comments!!!Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61836900167537381432009-01-21T17:33:00.000-08:002009-01-21T17:33:00.000-08:00Since I.H.S. is the only person here who has a dif...Since I.H.S. is the only person here who has a different slant on what I wrote (what Obama said) ...other than Ducky, but you've all tackled him well without me!...I'd like to address this to my friend I.H.S.:<BR/><BR/>Are you addressing more the quote about humility and restraint? Because I DO understand what you're saying there.......While I think we have shown MIGHTY restraint in what we've done (not hitting Iraq harder, which MIGHT have ended the war sooner, not hitting Iran, Syria, etc.), I think our islamist enemies don't RESPECT humility OR restraint. It's a VERY different mindset in the Middle East, especially with that bunch, and I think our intelligence isn't up to snuff on that...PRIDE, POWER...they are EVERYTHING. The PEOPLE of those areas might think we're nice to exercise restraint and humility, but not much; and our enemies will only USE it.<BR/><BR/>As for the comment about our JUST CAUSE keeping us safe.......I can NEVER understand that one....It's the most naive thing I can imagine telling our enemies.<BR/><BR/>Nothing we ARE is going to keep us safe, sadly..just or unjust; they want us hurt, they want Israel to disappear. We have to change that!! NO?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.com