tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post5810572835030935774..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: FREEDOMZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-34775692211093682682011-12-12T17:18:42.314-08:002011-12-12T17:18:42.314-08:00Freedom is doing anything you want without impacti...<i>Freedom is doing anything you want without impacting someone else in a way they they don't want to be.</i><br /><br />With that definition, I can justify censorship unfortunately.<br /><br /><i> in a way they they don't want to be</i><br /><br />I don't like when people make fun of me b/c of my French origin for example. I'm sick and tired of hearing about it b/c I want to be seen as an American. So should I limit their freedom of speech?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-1884433757701638962011-12-12T17:17:55.502-08:002011-12-12T17:17:55.502-08:00Your Pee-Wee Herman impression is impeccable, FJ.
...Your Pee-Wee Herman impression is impeccable, FJ.<br /><br />Too bad it pays nothing, loser.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-38965657419121214312011-12-12T16:57:40.455-08:002011-12-12T16:57:40.455-08:00Freedom is doing anything you want without impacti...Freedom is doing anything you want without impacting someone else in a way they they don't want to be. In the case of children being impacted, laws must be in place to protect them. Otherwise, remove any law that is in conflict with the above.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32530572792611210732011-12-12T16:31:30.390-08:002011-12-12T16:31:30.390-08:00I wouldn't know, do we queenish?I wouldn't know, do we queenish?Joe Cameltoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18189167962738394522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-77051719220218733212011-12-12T16:23:09.613-08:002011-12-12T16:23:09.613-08:00Do you fags giggle any other way, FJ?Do you fags giggle any other way, FJ?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-62733160405985627282011-12-12T15:46:31.459-08:002011-12-12T15:46:31.459-08:00...and hitting people with his purse!
*giggles li......and hitting people with his purse!<br /><br /><i>*giggles like a girl*</i>Joe Cameltoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18189167962738394522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-65896920897394620172011-12-12T15:07:06.478-08:002011-12-12T15:07:06.478-08:00You've got it, Frogburger. Pollack would have ...You've got it, Frogburger. Pollack would have to get a real job if not for whatever support he's garnered from being spastic with a paintbrush.<br /><br />But Ducky takes it beyond that. If nobody cared to frame up Pollack's paint spills and call it "art," he'd want a government subsidy for Pollack and dialectical materialist regimes demanding turds be considered candy bars in every textbook.<br /><br />It's not at all philosophically different from other left-wing enemies of freedom like FJ seeking perpetual "entitlement" bliss on the backs of productive people and screaming "grandma killer" at capitalists from his government-provided Laz-E-Boy chair.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-68205576557673275322011-12-12T14:49:47.266-08:002011-12-12T14:49:47.266-08:00If I like it and have cash to waste I'd pay fo...If I like it and have cash to waste I'd pay for it. I don't care if other people don't like it.<br /><br />That's freedom, my friend :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-87328084576059096392011-12-12T14:45:34.493-08:002011-12-12T14:45:34.493-08:00Or worse, pay to see it in person for a few moment...Or worse, pay to see it in person for a few moments? Maybe take a photograph posing next to it?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-56613234353260683372011-12-12T14:42:32.928-08:002011-12-12T14:42:32.928-08:00But would you pay for a Pollack "painting&quo...But would you pay for a Pollack "painting" if it cost more than the canvas and the gravity that did the work?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-68499139501349605302011-12-12T14:37:59.862-08:002011-12-12T14:37:59.862-08:00Well I like Pollock :)Well I like Pollock :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-23426267258123355932011-12-12T14:37:13.665-08:002011-12-12T14:37:13.665-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61005116673096494152011-12-12T14:32:27.746-08:002011-12-12T14:32:27.746-08:00It's because you decide to be in a manichean v...<i>It's because you decide to be in a manichean vision of the world, Ducky. A victim mindset. A vision of the world where if one wins, another loses. That's true in sport for one single game but that's invalid in economics and in life.</i><br /><br />Spot on, Frogburger. People incapable of creating new wealth tend to believe someone else has theirs.<br /><br />But Ducky would be the first to tell you Jackson Pollack's paint drippings are "worth" something.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29531789678197717502011-12-12T14:11:29.179-08:002011-12-12T14:11:29.179-08:00Play prisoners dilemma all you like but until you ...<i>Play prisoners dilemma all you like but until you can learn to cooperate, you lose. If that makes you feel "free", fine.</i><br /><br />It's because you decide to be in a manichean vision of the world, Ducky. A victim mindset. A vision of the world where if one wins, another loses. That's true in sport for one single game but that's invalid in economics and in life.<br /><br />As long as you stick to this vision, you won't feel free indeed. But in that case, you decide to lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-25853279638956551332011-12-12T13:33:00.477-08:002011-12-12T13:33:00.477-08:00Right on cue.Right on cue.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-81352161007189238472011-12-12T13:16:35.705-08:002011-12-12T13:16:35.705-08:00(_X_)(_X_)Joe Cameltoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18189167962738394522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-46042944335273852722011-12-12T13:05:39.494-08:002011-12-12T13:05:39.494-08:00@ Ducky: Silverfiddle, do you deny that laissez-f...@ Ducky: <i>Silverfiddle, do you deny that laissez-faire ultimately becomes a last man standing zero sum game?</i><br /><br />Give us an example where this actually happened.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-11475398856493889382011-12-12T12:13:11.516-08:002011-12-12T12:13:11.516-08:00I don't see where my definition of freedom - n...I don't see where my definition of freedom - not being treated (at the point of a gun) as the expense account for mendicant socialism dependent adult-aged children like FJ - amounts to a desire to abandon the rule of law or "drive on any side of the street I want."<br /><br />But I suppose lacking intellectual honesty grants FJ the "freedom" to blather on all day while people are working.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-3238014844997294242011-12-12T11:40:15.899-08:002011-12-12T11:40:15.899-08:00Silverfiddle, do you deny that laissez-faire ultim...Silverfiddle, do you deny that laissez-faire ultimately becomes a last man standing zero sum game?<br /><br />Play prisoners dilemma all you like but until you can learn to cooperate, you lose. If that makes you feel "free", fine.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-16123535775992607502011-12-12T11:26:43.967-08:002011-12-12T11:26:43.967-08:00SF...my stepdaughter does a lot of business in Ven...SF...my stepdaughter does a lot of business in Venezuela and spends weeks there at a time....<br />She says they can't stand Chavez and blame the nightmare that's Venezuela today on him.<br />To be fair, her dad also did work there and was there for months at a time and told me it was dangerous even 35 years ago, too..<br /><br />I asked her to ask her Venezuelan friends about Chavez and what he's doing and they hate him; it's getting very hard for educated young people to succeed in business, and they're otherwise hard workers.<br /><br />SO, I figured the young educated class was smart and understood Chavez's idle promises so I asked her to very carefully ask cab drivers and waitresses she came into contact with ...you have to be really careful there what you say and where you go, etc....she said even they hated Chavez. <br />We sure do hear otherwise here, don't we.<br /><br />Thanks for the Colombia information..it's nice to get facts and not The Nation's take.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-69870897788481924512011-12-12T11:05:13.958-08:002011-12-12T11:05:13.958-08:00Ducky: Well-spoken for someone who gets all his k...Ducky: Well-spoken for someone who gets all his knowledge about Colombia from The Nation Magazine. You are fundamentally unqualified to speak about what really went on in Colombia.<br /><br />The "oppressed union" meme has a grain of truth but is overblown. Unions are mostly communist joints down there, and Colombians do not like communism; they've seen it up close and have recoiled at the stench.<br /><br />Colombians do like economic activity. They are very entrepreneurial people, so they like things like pipelines.<br /><br />The rest of your comments are essentially gibberish.Silverfiddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13541652236676260219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-89527784557045714612011-12-12T11:03:29.207-08:002011-12-12T11:03:29.207-08:00Ducky, why do you read conservative blogs? You st...Ducky, why do you read conservative blogs? You still just don't get it. <br /><br />Speedy, very well said. thanksZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-43316892506755838622011-12-12T10:40:50.741-08:002011-12-12T10:40:50.741-08:00The speed with which you can now safely travel are...The speed with which you can now safely travel are a "surplus value" (something over and above) the results would get if you allowed complete freedom on the roads.<br /><br />Marxists love the concept of the "worker" being the "owner" of any "surplus values" that are derived from the organized division of labour associated with capitalism. But it is the capitalist who "organizes" the labour which thereafter generates the surplus value we all know as "profit". Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations" clearly demonstrates that surplus values belong to the capitalists, not the labourers/ workers. It is the capitalists brainpower that set the conditions/rules which limit the workers to their respective specialized functions (ie - Henry Ford's assembly line) that generate industry's enormous profits.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-12389276464929782582011-12-12T10:40:40.747-08:002011-12-12T10:40:40.747-08:00Well Silver fiddle - Leave other countries alone. ...Well Silver fiddle - Leave other countries alone. Respect one another's sovereignty.<br /><br />------<br /><br />But remember, this is coming from someone who was quite happy to take sides in Colombia and do the oil companies' bidding despite good documentation of the miserable working conditions in the fields and the extensive assassinations of unionists who have tried to organize.<br /><br />So you need to revise a bit.<br /><br />I think that Libertarians who blunder into an economic system that guarantees we will play zero sum when a better functioning society requires cooperation should be more objective.<br /><br />Many who have the loudest voice complaining about the lack of freedom in the current system are the very ones being hurt by it.<br /><br />Somehow an equitable resolution of conflicts of interest becomes Stalinist in that strange haze that envelops the right.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-8682421453624680912011-12-12T10:29:44.541-08:002011-12-12T10:29:44.541-08:00Translation:
Freedom is CHAOS.
Liberty (limits t...Translation:<br /><br />Freedom is CHAOS.<br /><br />Liberty (limits to freedom) establish ORDER.<br /><br />You wouldn't want to drive on a road with no rules (limits) to a drivers "freedom". But establish some rules, and you can safely drive in opposite directions at fatal collision speeds with only a line of paint separating the vehicles in near perfect safety and efficiency.Speedy Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01640242783952822072noreply@blogger.com