tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post5847551643466032807..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Deroy Murdock; agree or disagree?Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-20429058350102959622011-09-29T17:34:22.548-07:002011-09-29T17:34:22.548-07:00Murdock's points are excellent and informative...Murdock's points are excellent and informative.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-20375883586602026662011-09-29T16:13:52.940-07:002011-09-29T16:13:52.940-07:00Dave,
I would argue that it is not the filibuster...Dave,<br /><br />I would argue that it is not the filibuster that is the problem with the Senate, but rather the 17th Amendment to the Constitution that completely eliminated state government representation at the federal government level. <br /><br />But you couldn't have national political parties voting for the interests of R or D in the Senate rather than say, the interests of the government of the state of Alabama vs. the interests of the state of Tennessee as the founding fathers intended.<br /><br />Repeal the 17th Amendment and you completely end partisan gridlock and the whole bullshit contest.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-38666904057919095152011-09-29T08:19:07.776-07:002011-09-29T08:19:07.776-07:00Beamish, you might want to check your Senate rules...Beamish, you might want to check your Senate rules... these days a series of senators can engage in the filibuster, so it is not just one person that must keep the debate going.<br /><br />Also, even the threat of a filibuster, from either party, is usually enough for a Senate majority to not bring up a specific piece of legislation.<br /><br />Now since we know which party has been pretty active in using the filibuster since 2008, we can pretty easily identify why the Senate has passed fewer bills than the House.<br /><br />It is a simple answer and one Mr. Murdock should have known, or at least acknowledged.Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16777087329254991970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-48295197355628758322011-09-29T03:48:14.345-07:002011-09-29T03:48:14.345-07:00I'm OK with concluding that Obama's speech...I'm OK with concluding that Obama's speech has no substance or meaning whatsoever. None of his speeches do, after all.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-14792108031489381182011-09-29T02:10:19.597-07:002011-09-29T02:10:19.597-07:00I genuinely hope this interpretation of Obama tryi...<i>I genuinely hope this interpretation of Obama trying to start a race war is nothing more than a harmless joke. I cannot imagine -- and maybe it's wishful thinking on my part -- anybody seriously believing that.</i><br /><br />How else would you interpret a "stop complaining and put on your marching boots" speech?<br /><br />March where? For what? March happy, no complaints?<br /><br />Recall, this speech to the Congressional Black Caucus came after the CBC's chairman claimed that they would have already marched on Obama's White House if only he weren't black. <br /><br />So, where does Obama want to redirect black political anger and militancy?<br /><br />You've either got to conclude that Obama's speech had no substance or meaning whatsoever, or that it was a call for a race war.<br /><br />Considering Obama's own Freudian slip about "Jews / janitors" not paying enough taxes and recent calls from Democrat leaders to cancel holding elections, we've seen enough world history to know leftism inevitably concludes with the marching men hauling other people away to death camps.<br /><br />I wish it could be a "harmless joke," but one does not vote for Democrats without a serious contempt for the existence of the US Constitution.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-43911654070629460842011-09-28T17:23:30.021-07:002011-09-28T17:23:30.021-07:00net, I don't think anybody actually thinks he ...net, I don't think anybody actually thinks he WANTS a race war but I wish he'd do something like speak publicly about the black FLASH MOBS, telling those kids what a bad choice that is to make in one's life, etc.<br /><br />Remember when he sided on the black prof's side immediately before hearing the details of that house arrest near Harvard, I believe it was?<br /><br />He finally goes to a church for Easter this last season and he picks a FREE SLAVE CHURCH. WHY?<br /><br />Why not be an AMERICAN? BE BOTH COLORS! Every other president should and HE IS BOTH COLORS! <br /><br />I fault him for doing very little to help race relations, I truly do. Then we have Maxine Waters mad at him for not being black enough? disgusting.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32742050820529349692011-09-28T14:42:09.029-07:002011-09-28T14:42:09.029-07:00I genuinely hope this interpretation of Obama tryi...I genuinely hope this interpretation of Obama trying to start a race war is nothing more than a harmless joke. I cannot imagine -- and maybe it's wishful thinking on my part -- anybody seriously believing that.net observerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11267868386003645693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-4945391516683821892011-09-28T09:55:52.942-07:002011-09-28T09:55:52.942-07:00Does it make a difference whether it is anonymous ...<i>Does it make a difference whether it is anonymous or public? Would knowing that Sen Jim Demint has threatened to filibuster any law he does not agree with change the metrics?</i><br /><br />Sure it would, if Harry Reid though that he could wrangle up enough votes to shut down a filibuster.<br /><br />And remember, a filibuster only lasts as long as the Senator can talk. They can't take breaks for meals, restrooms, sleep, or even a smoke break.<br /><br />If Harry Reid is afraid he can't wait out (at the extreme most) all the Republicans windbagging it before taking a vote, maybe he's got a bad bill on his hands.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-87783874903139478922011-09-28T08:14:23.927-07:002011-09-28T08:14:23.927-07:00CHuck, you've hit on what I believe should be ...CHuck, you've hit on what I believe should be the undoing of the Senate. There is no such thing as straight up votes anymore because there is always some Senator who will invoke, or threaten the filibuster.<br /><br />It has reduced that body to needing 60 votes to anything no matter the party.<br /><br />The reasons? Maybe an all to strong emphasis on party unity before legislation. I do not know, but something it seems, needs to change.<br /><br />Beamish said <b>Under current Senate rules, the Senate Majority Leader (that's Harry Reid, a Dem) has the power to intervene whenever there's a "secret hold" placed on legislation.</b><br /><br />And then asked why doesn't he?<br /><br />Does it make a difference whether it is anonymous or public? Would knowing that Sen Jim Demint has threatened to filibuster any law he does not agree with change the metrics?<br /><br />It wouldn't and you know it.<br /><br />But as to why... WHile you may disagree, Reid loves the Senate. He's an old line fight 'em hard kind of guy <i>for his side.</i><br /><br />As such, he does not want to be the first Majority leader to cross that line.<br /><br />Leaders from both parties have held that rule as almost Holy Writ.<br /><br />It is as Chuck said... <b>It would be a public relations mess for him and any leader, Democrat or Republican, worth his salt would do the same.</b><br /><br />No leader worth his salt would bring up legislation doomed to fail. <br /><br />That is why Mr. Murdock has not much legislation from this Senate.Dave Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04272431500457083818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-51472508202221918562011-09-28T01:17:14.243-07:002011-09-28T01:17:14.243-07:00Somebody ought to tell obama that the problem with...Somebody ought to tell obama that the problem with telling lies and just making sh!t up is that there comes a point when no one will believe anything you say, no matter if it's actually true or not, they simply won't listen.<br /><br />If obama wants to know how that feels, pick up the phone ol boy and call our prime minister.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-87877763994430859662011-09-27T22:02:13.828-07:002011-09-27T22:02:13.828-07:00Nope! Sorry, no joke.
[see my blog]Nope! Sorry, no joke.<br /><br />[see my blog](((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84167665965817012102011-09-27T20:12:14.816-07:002011-09-27T20:12:14.816-07:00IS THIS A JOKE?IS THIS A JOKE?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-75550580728845354102011-09-27T20:12:06.808-07:002011-09-27T20:12:06.808-07:00"Well, now the Democrat Governor of North Car..."Well, now the Democrat Governor of North Carolina and Obama's former director of the Office of Management and Budget have both come out solidly in favor of doing away with elections."<br /><br />Beamish..WHHHAAAAAAAAAA...??Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-39292777659779043912011-09-27T19:21:20.253-07:002011-09-27T19:21:20.253-07:00If ever there was a ripe time to repeal the 17th A...If ever there was a ripe time to repeal the 17th Amendment and get state legislature representation back in the Senate, this is it.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-68593988541430886842011-09-27T19:14:27.592-07:002011-09-27T19:14:27.592-07:00The Democratic solution to not getting things thro...The Democratic solution to not getting things through Congress?<br /><br />Doing away with Congress...(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-19179107412719302412011-09-27T19:12:25.018-07:002011-09-27T19:12:25.018-07:00Well, now the Democrat Governor of North Carolina ...Well, now the Democrat Governor of North Carolina and Obama's former director of the Office of Management and Budget have both come out solidly in favor of doing away with elections.<br /><br />Typical leftism. When all else fails, resort to destroying democratic institutions and setting up death camps.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-88607337748116694292011-09-27T19:10:38.535-07:002011-09-27T19:10:38.535-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-73469723893434970652011-09-27T18:26:51.994-07:002011-09-27T18:26:51.994-07:00"It would be a public relations mess for him ...<b><i>"It would be a public relations mess for him and any leader, Democrat or Republican, worth his salt would do the same."</i></b><br /><br /><br />And that is exactly why these 120 days a year workers, paid by we the US Taxpayer have a DISAPPROVAL rating of 88%!<br /><br />The 12% that approve of this worthless government...are employed by it.<br /><br />They're not the least damn bit afraid of bad "PR"...they don't care if we hold them in contempt....they only care about themselves, their pensions, their perks, their power, getting re elected on lies and more lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-30970040402749231572011-09-27T16:42:33.176-07:002011-09-27T16:42:33.176-07:00Mark beat me to it
The article doesn't say th...Mark beat me to it<br /><br /><i>The article doesn't say the Senate failed to pass legislation. It says they haven't even voted on much. You don't need a 60% majority to consider a vote, Ducky.</i><br /><br />Following that Dave made the point that Reid will not bring up something that would fail anyways, which I must admit I don't blame Reid for. It would be a public relations mess for him and any leader, Democrat or Republican, worth his salt would do the same. <br /><br />The problem with this though is that the Democrats aren't even proposing a plan. <br /><br />Their game plan is to sit on the side lines and blame the GOP. The hope of Obama and the rest of the Democratic party is that the voters will place more blame on the GOP than they do on the Dems and will therefore vote Democratic.Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02467510776931664234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-17621179073045717572011-09-27T16:41:19.013-07:002011-09-27T16:41:19.013-07:00Bob, good points; I hadn't deleted much more ...Bob, good points; I hadn't deleted much more than about five comments in the last 3 years since I opened geeeeZ, but I've had to quite a lot the last six months; the leftwingers are springing into action because of the election. They're all getting primed; you'll be hearing talk radio get the ubiquitous pre-election phone calls that say "I USED to be a REPUBLICAN, but I just CAN'T vote for them again, because........" It's hilarious. Usually, the hosts recognize the actual voices after a while and get them some fun, but.... never fails that they'll be there.<br /><br />YOur comment reminds me of when Tony Snow died and the Huffington Post crashed due to the huge amount of "glad he's DEAD" comments they got. SHe's never replaced that day's blog; you'd never know that happened but we all know. You know how the left behaves every time CHeney is seriously ill.....the comments at leftist blogs are unbelievably nasty..<br />Yet, when Teddy Kennedy died, I was so gratified to see all of us bloggers on the same theme ...we all admitted we didn't like his politics but some of us talked about how nobody should suffer like that, others talked about what a loss to his family.....gave him credit for years of service. <br /><br />There's always quite a difference in the tones between the Right and the Left. <br />Picture ANY Rightwinger saying anything remotely close to what Bill Maher says or allows on HIS show? Remember he had comics talking about Mr Bachmann F'ing michele hard because she's so awful.....?: The other day Maher said something about Palin f'ing (he uses the whole word, of course) black men but she's racist? <br /><br />I'd like one lib here to link me to anything the Right's said like that in any quasi-mainstream cable channel or blog.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-44420119345735787172011-09-27T16:38:22.397-07:002011-09-27T16:38:22.397-07:00Sorry I meant Leticia...you also parroted duhkkky....Sorry I meant Leticia...you also parroted duhkkky...this is too much!elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-31373263138725724592011-09-27T16:34:53.845-07:002011-09-27T16:34:53.845-07:00Bd, stop believing the pablum; you're sounding...Bd, stop believing the pablum; you're sounding silly.<br /><br />You insult Leticia's comment... "And for some odd reason despises the wealthy Americans and wants to take away their money and give it to dead-beats who refuse to work but are able to.."<br /><br />Can you show her and all of us differently? Would love to see how someone doesn't come to that conclusion.<br />Let's forget 'despises the wealthy Americans' and substitute ' pays no attention to the Constitution'...I'd like to hear your response to that, too (sort of, not really) :-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-76010136377478879792011-09-27T16:21:54.035-07:002011-09-27T16:21:54.035-07:00Leticia said...
It's always been about ra...<i>Leticia said...<br /><br /> It's always been about race with Obama. And for some odd reason despises the wealthy Americans and wants to take away their money and give it to dead-beats who refuse to work but are able to</i><br /><br />Polly wanna cracker?Bdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16577053490433489212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32952075475115167842011-09-27T16:20:18.974-07:002011-09-27T16:20:18.974-07:00The 'do nothing-ness' of this congress is ...The 'do nothing-ness' of this congress is a result of GOP obstructionists who'd rather see us slump into a recession than see Obama succeed-even if it means the middle class suffers.<br /><br />The Congress before 2010 has been the most productive in recent history.<br /><br />www.whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.comBdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16577053490433489212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-7097918245187886192011-09-27T16:17:57.574-07:002011-09-27T16:17:57.574-07:00I think Ducky makes a good point with, "if yo...I think Ducky makes a good point with, "if you try to form the truth (whatever that is) from a strict doctrinaire narrow band of commentators you ain't gonna find it."<br /><br />The only problem is that whenever a liberal shows up on a predominately conservative site, he/she tend to make ad hominem arguments, and rarely reference factual events. I know people may gang-up on someone like this, but that is unavoidable. <br /><br />I don't have an example right now, but I know Z will not tolerate bad language, nor somebody who cannot make a point without denigrating others. I am sure that she can furnish examples where this happens.<br /><br />I have seen conservatives show up on liberal blogs when they are received with name calling and downright dirty language.<br /><br />I would personally like to see blogs everywhere set rules that support disciplined argument. Very few do.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17665311979954859271noreply@blogger.com