tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post5914053201967691331..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: President without a country?Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-48326973515761224432011-03-12T23:39:06.306-08:002011-03-12T23:39:06.306-08:00Ah, there's no such thing as a boring history ...Ah, there's no such thing as a boring history discussion :)(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-48685146194753604632011-03-12T18:55:23.859-08:002011-03-12T18:55:23.859-08:00I will say Calley took the fall for a lot of peopl...<b> I will say Calley took the fall for a lot of people higher up in the chain of command though. </b><br /><br />Calley got off pretty easy in all this, a couple of years of house arrest. But, he could have refused the order, if there was such a standing order. He still made a choice and was responsible for that choice.<br /><br />But, your right, there should have been other higher ups go down too. Especially Medina.<br /><br />Are far as winning hearts and minds? That's a whole other issue...it's Z's blog and I don't want to bore people with history that very few are interested in anymore. So I'll stop here....Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16121811949825846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-53354318681198584292011-03-12T13:45:51.356-08:002011-03-12T13:45:51.356-08:00I will say Calley took the fall for a lot of peopl...I will say Calley took the fall for a lot of people higher up in the chain of command though.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-90229728956763080542011-03-12T13:43:10.862-08:002011-03-12T13:43:10.862-08:00I get all that, Scotty. I'm not lionizing Call...I get all that, Scotty. I'm not lionizing Calley and his men as "unsung heroes" for what they did - illegally. <br /><br />I'm just saying America wouldn't have set out to "win hearts and minds" in those VC-supporting / VC-terrorized villages if those hearts and minds were already won. <br /><br />They were complicit with the VC. They may have been complicit with the VC out of fear amd "walking a tightrope" but they were still, in the end, complicit.<br /><br />That's an honest assessment anyone can make. Calley just took the wrong-headed step of trying to do something more atrocious than the VC to counter it, to try to make the villages complicit with Americans out of fear instead.<br /><br />If My Lai / Son My and the surrounding hotbeds of VC activity had been napalmed from the air instead, hardly anybody would have blinked an eye.<br /><br />But because Calley and his men violated the ROE to make it personal, they lost any moral high ground they otherwise could have had.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-55854791040413682082011-03-12T07:09:49.386-08:002011-03-12T07:09:49.386-08:00I had the blue and 4 white stars 23rd Inf. Div. Am...<b>I had the blue and 4 white stars 23rd Inf. Div. Americal patches on an old jacket as a kid growing up in the 1970s before I understood there was any controversy or dishonor associated with them.</b><br /><br />Old timers still call it the Southern Cross. I was in the 11th LIB. <br /><br /><b>in the 1980s when he was more coherent he talked about the snipers and booby traps and mines prevalent in the hamlets and villages near My Lai / Son My. His contention was that they didn't get there without those villagers knowledge or consent. </b><br /><br />You have to keep in mind that when we(the military) weren’t there, these people had to live with the VC and or the NVA. If your life and your family’s safety depended on you keeping quiet while your neighbor, who could have been VC was out and about setting booby traps where the US military might be, what would you do?<br /><br />It’s the easy way out to blame those villagers for the problems that Calley and his men might have been suffering before that event. But, those villagers were doing all that they could to survive and all that they had to do to stay alive.<br /><br />If they had been compliant and gave up those that were doing these things to the G.I.s, after those G.I.s left, it would be very possible that the VC or NVA would be there the next night to slaughter villagers for giving them up. You have to be able to see the tightrope that these folks were having to walk……..put yourself in their shoes.Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16121811949825846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61794023465783712892011-03-12T03:53:40.137-08:002011-03-12T03:53:40.137-08:00I had the blue and 4 white stars 23rd Inf. Div. Am...I had the blue and 4 white stars 23rd Inf. Div. Americal patches on an old jacket as a kid growing up in the 1970s before I understood there was any controversy or dishonor associated with them. Maybe that's why hippies hated me back then, LOL. I just thought they looked cool on a jacket.<br /><br />Sadly, my uncle's too eaten up with strokes and Alzheimer's and dioxin-related illnesses from Agent Orange exposure these days, but back in the 1980s when he was more coherent he talked about the snipers and booby traps and mines prevalent in the hamlets and villages near My Lai / Son My. His contention was that they didn't get there without those villagers knowledge or consent. He had fought there before the My Lai massacre took place and was as frustrated with the ROE as anyone operating there would be. <br /><br />He didn't excuse or condone the massacre, just refused to see its victims as pure choirboys and saints.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-8056108078226423632011-03-11T18:04:51.237-08:002011-03-11T18:04:51.237-08:00But, point of order on the "My Lai massacre&q...<b> But, point of order on the "My Lai massacre" - my uncle was in Vietnam [3 Bronze Stars, 2 Purple Hearts] and was near My Lai when that happened. According to him, "no innocents died there" and I tend to agree with him, as controversial as that may seem. </b><br /><br />If your uncle was a "grunt" that was and isn't his judgement to make.<br /><br />Normal people don’t kill 300+ people in a single moment in time, enemy or not when they are NOT armed. I see NO justification for that action. And, neither did the military.<br /><br />If there was any suspicion at all of what they may all have been and they’re loyalties, you gathered them up and shipped them all off to the people that could make that determination.<br /><br /><b>My grandfather had to gun down children in Germany, the Hitler Youth, because they were shooting at him and his fellow soldiers. </b><br /><br />As we were also called on to do but, again, they were armed.<br /><br /><b>I tend to believe the adage that veterans that brag about their combat didn't actually see any.</b><br /><br />I concur those, that talk the most, did the least. It’s always been the case……. <br /><br />It took many years for those of us that were in the Americal Division to wear that patch with pride, thanks to those that were involved in that awful mess.Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16121811949825846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-38557350867516777532011-03-11T14:02:29.778-08:002011-03-11T14:02:29.778-08:00Scotty,
I understand what you're saying, and ...Scotty,<br /><br />I understand what you're saying, and agree with it. <br /><br />But, point of order on the "My Lai massacre" - my uncle was in Vietnam [3 Bronze Stars, 2 Purple Hearts] and was near My Lai when that happened. According to him, "no innocents died there" and I tend to agree with him, as controversial as that may seem. <br /><br />My grandfather had to gun down children in Germany, the Hitler Youth, because they were shooting at him and his fellow soldiers. <br /><br />Neither of these men of honor WANTED to kill people, especially children, but armed is armed, and enemy is enemy.<br /><br />I tend to believe the adage that veterans that brag about their combat didn't actually see any.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-22825388954591064192011-03-11T13:18:20.648-08:002011-03-11T13:18:20.648-08:00Scotty, if you mean your comment disappeared, I AM...<b>Scotty, if you mean your comment disappeared, I AM SO SORRY,</b><br /><br />No need to apologize to me, Z. I know all too well about the quirks and hiccups that happen.Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16121811949825846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-71220821315867432842011-03-11T08:28:57.795-08:002011-03-11T08:28:57.795-08:00It came up missing the first time I posted this so...It came up missing the first time I posted this so here it is again!!<br /><br /><br /><b>beamish:<br /><br />I'm not naive. I just tend to think a sniper rifle is better than a nuke. "Kill all Muslims" is just crazy talk. <br /><br />I don't think anyone in the military with that attitude will be placed in positions of command, or even should be.</b> <br /><br />Major’s rhetoric bothers me too. As a disabled combat veteran, beamish, you are 100% correct in your statement above. I don’t think I’m over stepping my bounds when I say I believe that most combat veterans would agree with you.<br /><br />Most soldiers, if they’re honest, abhor any type of killing. It’s attitudes like Major’s that gave us Lt Calley and My Lai.<br /><br />I’ve come to know MANY Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans through the various organizations that I’m affiliated with. They certainly don’t share the views that Major seems to hold. I’m personally embarrassed by Major’s rhetoric and apologize for what he seems to represent and I can say he does not represent my or most combats veterans attitudes about war and Muslims. Veterans that I’m am honored to be able to call my friends.Scottyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16121811949825846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-42691599560038020822011-03-10T21:15:45.827-08:002011-03-10T21:15:45.827-08:00Beamish, I wish I still felt that way about her; I...<i>Beamish, I wish I still felt that way about her; I was totally gung-ho, but a few things she's said the last few months have about done her in for me. I never thought that would happen.</i><br /><br />I'm not familiar with anything really controversial she's said in the past view months. I'm sure I've said worse. And relish the chance to do so in the future.<br /><br />Attacking Palin is a huge depletion of the left's resources (as will be the flimsy, destined to fail court challenges and recall petitions against Governor Walker and the new labor laws in Wisconsin). She's taking the heat and not missing a beat, a living, walking example of the impotence and futility of Alinskyism.<br /><br />I'd actually be surprised if she announces a run for the Presidency, and give up her crusade to force the left to waste money and time.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-63363492239627959642011-03-10T21:12:11.567-08:002011-03-10T21:12:11.567-08:00Z;
You don't know how to combat Islamism;
To...Z;<br /><br />You don't know how to combat Islamism;<br /><br />To be Honest, even Bush helped Islamism and terrorism to become a world threat, because he didn't recognized the Islamism, and he was used by Islamism, and he did what Islamism was dreaming to do.<br /><br />With this level of Understanding, you never be able to combat the Islamism.<br /><br />What your Government is doing is the exact AGENDA of the Islamism.<br /><br />Your FBI, CIA, Pentagon, have become the tools controlled by the Islamism.<br /><br />All your Anti-Islamist and Anti-Terrorist experts were dismissed.<br /><br />SAMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-76647626244388113612011-03-10T20:40:38.828-08:002011-03-10T20:40:38.828-08:00Beamish, I wish I still felt that way about her; ...Beamish, I wish I still felt that way about her; I was totally gung-ho, but a few things she's said the last few months have about done her in for me. I never thought that would happen.<br /><br />SAM, if we say good Muslims marching in America against the Islamism, that would really help. As you know, I( and many Americans ) do separate Muslims from Islamists...but, it's very hard considering most Muslims back that awful organization CAIR over America every time there's a choice.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29956275167291202712011-03-10T20:35:35.096-08:002011-03-10T20:35:35.096-08:00You know all those other countries and cultures th...You know all those other countries and cultures that obongo obviously thinks are better than America? If he had been a citizen of any one of them, he would never have become the president or prime minister of any of them. And specifically because of his skin color.MathewKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14385674205383405783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-45883081551995655032011-03-10T20:02:44.464-08:002011-03-10T20:02:44.464-08:00Z;
Just tonight, 90% of the French TV's and A...Z;<br /><br />Just tonight, 90% of the French TV's and AV Medias are talking about the Islamism and it's impact on politics.<br /><br />Unbelievable, all those medias and specially the Americans make an huge error between Islamism and the Muslim Individuals.<br /><br />This big Mistake is what the Islamism want you the people to make.<br /><br />This is the best way to hidden the ANTI-CHRIST inside the mass.<br /><br />Z;<br />If you think that, Now, is the good time to Di-scramble the Islamism, tell me.<br /><br />If, you the people, you really want to discover the BIG SECRET of the Islamism, we can start.<br /><br />You can kill all the Muslims in the USA, you will not up-root the Islamism from YOUR COUNTRY.<br /><br />If you kill all the Patients you will not harm the VIRUS.<br /><br />SAMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-55894392909897197992011-03-10T19:26:15.137-08:002011-03-10T19:26:15.137-08:00Z,
I liked McCain over Bush in the 2000 primaries...Z,<br /><br />I liked McCain over Bush in the 2000 primaries. McCain's spiteful aisle-crossing antics on the sidelines and in the media during Bush's eight years made me comfortable with Bush's winning the nomination in 2000.<br /><br />When it came down to McCain, Romney, and Huckabee, the decision for McCain became a lot easier, and when he selected Palin to run with him, support for McCain became a no-brainer, especially when the KKK and Weather Underground wings of the Democratic Party were still trying to decide between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. <br /><br />I've always liked Sarah Palin, and before most people even knew about her. <br /><br />I still do like her. She's not my first pick to run against Obama in 2012, but she makes the short list.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-24222614964694664672011-03-10T19:12:08.039-08:002011-03-10T19:12:08.039-08:00Major,
Islam has declared war upon the United Sta...Major,<br /><br /><i>Islam has declared war upon the United States and it's citizens, Mr. Beamish...it's simple to me and most Americans...your sister belongs to a political enterprise / organization that demands and wants the demise of this Republic....our democracy which we all know is consistent with Islamist ideology.....and I have to make her as an exception?</i><br /><br />How does a religion shared by over a billion people in the world from every ethnicity on the planet "declare war" on anyone? Islam, as a whole, is more heirarchically disorganized and institutionally prone to petty internal bickering than the Baptist church down the street from my home.<br /><br />Most people killed by Muslims are in fact Muslims themselves. <br /><br />As for making my sister an exception to your genocidal fantasies, I'll just point out that she teaches English to schoolchildren in Egypt, after two years of teaching herself how to speak, read, and write Arabic. <br /><br />Last I checked, promoting English language skills wasn't on Osama Bin Laden's agenda.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-55114632223196501992011-03-10T19:01:09.889-08:002011-03-10T19:01:09.889-08:00Off Topic: What really bugged me tonight was seein...Off Topic: What really bugged me tonight was seeing Sarah Palin basically say she doesn't much care who portrays her in the upcoming film but that they should pay for her kid's braces if they're going to make money being her.<br />She makes HUNDREDS of thousands on speaking engagements and TV shows, and whatever else and when she says things like that,I"m even more done with her.<br /><br />Beamish, you like Palin? It's sad because she says good things about loving this country, using conservative methods of keeping it going, but then she said "And maybe I'll consider running if nobody else can take the job on!" (i paraphrase but that's the meaning) I wish she'd stop turning me SO off.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84371019276723453612011-03-10T18:54:03.716-08:002011-03-10T18:54:03.716-08:00SAM... you said "So, with OBAMA, of course th...SAM... you said "So, with OBAMA, of course the USA is no longer the superpower, which is not important for the BIG interests."<br /><br />Obviously, we do have elections and the people vote, but yes, the big interests donate the money and only 2 run for office and those 2 are usually nobody anybody I know would actually select...<br />We're no longer a superpower because of the idiotic money borrowing and the fact that the leftwing in this world didn't like Bush going into Iraq to fight there.<br /><br />If it wasn't for our leftwing and the FACT that your news source people don't actually report, they just translate and publish our leftwing news from the New York Times in their papers (especially Germany, I've seen this many times) so you aren't getting all the truth, we'd be much better off.<br />Europeans believe the leftwing and that's a big problem, too.<br />They probably think most of us like Obama! THAT is NOT TRUEZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61778886758877643162011-03-10T18:47:28.632-08:002011-03-10T18:47:28.632-08:00As for my "objectivity on the evils of Islam&...As for my "objectivity on the evils of Islam" - <br /><br />An Islamic Jihad / Hezbollah terrorist killed my childhood best friend's older brother in the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut back in 1983. <br /><br />Back in 1991, my older brother was harrassed in Saudi Arabia for quietly reading his Bible in public while waiting on layover to be flown to his aircraft carrier during Desert Storm. His US Navy uniform probably spared him jail, if not his life. <br /><br />A Palestinian suicide bomber maimed an aquaintance of mine at a bus stop in Tel Aviv, ending her modelling career.<br /><br />My oldest brother's destroyer's patrol mission was officially relieved by the USS Cole just days before the bombing in 2000.<br /><br />I don't know if still caring about my sister despite her conversion to Islam destroys my "objectivity on the evils of Islam" or not. <br /><br />I'm not naive. I just tend to think a sniper rifle is better than a nuke. "Kill all Muslims" is just crazy talk. <br /><br />I don't think anyone in the military with that attitude will be placed in positions of command, or even should be.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-79100497503213837852011-03-10T18:40:51.648-08:002011-03-10T18:40:51.648-08:00"But my passionate case for our civilization ...<b><i>"But my passionate case for our civilization to plead with her, my "cross to bear," is a lot easier without "kill-all-Muslims" being screamed over my shoulder, that's all."</i></b><br /><br /><br />Believe mr Mr. Beamish...I swear I understand your situation. Try this....in battle...or in a conflict...we wish that we had the ability to distinguish between combatants and...well "non combatants."<br /><br />Islam has declared war upon the United States and it's citizens, Mr. Beamish...it's simple to me and most Americans...your sister belongs to a political enterprise / organization that demands and wants the demise of this Republic....our democracy which we all know is consistent with Islamist ideology.....and I have to make her as an exception?<br /><br />Mr. Beamish with al due respect...this is exactly the conundrum that we face as free Americans.<br /><br />Your sister, unfortunately haas embraced slavery, has embraced an ideology that is anathema to America.<br /><br />I wish her well...but the fact is...she has chosen a life of slavery and compliance over women by a completely hateful ideology...especially of women.<br /><br />I've spent to many years of my life trying to rationalize why women would subject themselves to Islamist slaveyy...to the hardships, the simply mocking as a lifestyle choice.<br /><br />Your sister unfortunately...has abandoned her rights as human being...a woman and an individual.<br /><br />Her acceptance of Islam...has made her a slave...a non entity.Majornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-50860276758967039012011-03-10T18:25:26.103-08:002011-03-10T18:25:26.103-08:00As for being a "Christian nation", you c...As for being a "Christian nation", you come dangerously close to theocracy.<br /><br />That has got to be one of the most stupid statements of all times. Care to offer some proof or are you , as usual, just BSing or is that Duckpoopin. Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me.Tickerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13500388925461726862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-695822696001084862011-03-10T18:22:16.034-08:002011-03-10T18:22:16.034-08:00Don't get me wrong, Major. I'm disturbed b...Don't get me wrong, Major. I'm disturbed by my sister's decisions for precisely the trends and circumstances you cite.<br /><br />And don't get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree that the purpose of the military is to destroy the enemies of the United States of America. In fact, I'd say that directing the military to do just that is one of the few legitimate functions of our government besides delivering the mail. <br /><br />But my passionate case for our civilization to plead with her, my "cross to bear," is a lot easier without "kill-all-Muslims" being screamed over my shoulder, that's all.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-8191512116512679782011-03-10T17:23:17.853-08:002011-03-10T17:23:17.853-08:00"Is it because there are some 2 million or mo...<b><i>"Is it because there are some 2 million or more Muslims living here, trying to be good Americans out of a current population of over 300 million, 70 percent of whom are Christians? Does that make us, by any rational definition, a "Muslim nation"?</i></b><br /><br />Hardly ...currently we have a population of around 5,664,000 Jews in America. Does that make us a Jewish state like Israel?<br /><br />Israel itself: <i><b>"According to Central Bureau of Statistics data published on Tuesday, the population of the State of Israel at the end of 2005 was comprised of 6,990,700 people, of which 5,313,800 were Jewish (76 percent of the entire population), and 1,377,100 were Arab (19.7 percent) according to data published by the Central Bureau of Statistics.<br /> <br />The data also showed that since 2000, the Jewish population has decreased by 1.8 percent, while the Muslim population has increased during the past five years by 1.1 to 1,140,600."</b></i><br /><br />I firmly believe that the figure of 70% Christian in this country is way too low! Discounting atheists and other religions....America seems to be about 90% Christian. It matters not if they attend a church...what matters is that they hold fundamental beliefs that are Christian in nature. And that these same people shape their lives on or around the 10 Commandments with the exception of tribalistic excrement who choose to be outlaws, murderers and born killers.<br /><br />Our moooslim outlaws hold these beliefs in contempt and derision.<br /><br />It's clear that they're so called "religion" does not respect fundamental rights to live freely. And to espouse their beliefs in Christ.<br /><br />Rise up....voice up.....resist the scum that ( the minority ) that want to crush America.<br /><br />Yes...we need to rescue the term of "Onward Christian soldiers" in order to survive.Majornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-46136815784926076082011-03-10T16:41:28.168-08:002011-03-10T16:41:28.168-08:00But Z;
in this part of the world, a good part of ...But Z;<br /><br />in this part of the world, a good part of the people beleive that the American President is never elected by the American people.<br /><br />they say that, the American people are directed to elect the chosed president.<br /><br />The big interests chose always the American president.<br /><br />So, with OBAMA, of course the USA is no longer the superpower, which is not important for the BIG interests.<br /><br />SAMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com