tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post6596118564219193909..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Obama Death PanelsZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-83227712355303432142013-11-28T17:56:43.667-08:002013-11-28T17:56:43.667-08:00There's merit to the idea that by always promo...There's merit to the idea that by always promoting lower cholesterol levels and also suggesting strongly that ever lower blood pressure readings, coming from studies that are often funded by the drug companies, that will result in a much bigger market of potential future users of statin drugs.<br /><br />Some of the latest research is interesting because it doesn't accept the commonly accepted medical dogma raised cholesterol levels strictly diet related but instead an internal reaction of the body as a protection mechanism against some internal inflammation occurring within the body itself.<br /><br />Specifically, tiny lesions occur with the blood vessels of the body. And the body reacts to protect itself from these invasive foreign particles by creating plaque within the blood vessels that accumulates in some areas of the circulatory system. Statin drugs don't solve this problem but treat the symptom.<br /><br />More information is needed but this is an intriguing idea that seems to be worth considering;<br /><br />http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2013/february/forget-cholesterol-inflammations-the-real-enemy/Waylonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08533895509055020394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-76375170886447053112013-11-28T14:17:56.139-08:002013-11-28T14:17:56.139-08:00AOW and Jon..I get it!
Statistics do show, howev...AOW and Jon..I get it! <br />Statistics do show, however, that high cholesterol can be a culprit of stroke of heart attack.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-59379858626063561502013-11-28T11:49:00.057-08:002013-11-28T11:49:00.057-08:00Statins and pancreatitis:
...Pancreatitis is a ra...<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16503723" rel="nofollow">Statins and pancreatitis</a>:<br /><br /><i>...Pancreatitis is a rare adverse effect of statin therapy, but it has been documented in several case reports involving most of the statins. Continued reporting is necessary to increase awareness of this rare adverse effect of simvastatin so that it may be promptly managed or avoided in the future.... </i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-70431870806969179202013-11-28T11:45:52.931-08:002013-11-28T11:45:52.931-08:00Oh, and one more thing:
New guidelines would doub...Oh, and <a href="http://healthland.time.com/2013/11/12/new-guidelines-for-cholesterol-treatments-represent-huge-change/" rel="nofollow">one more thing</a>:<br /><br /><i><b>New guidelines would double the number of Americans on cholesterol-lowering drugs.</b><br /><br />[...]<br /><br /><b>The lower threshold for statin prescriptions is certainly welcome news for their manufacturers</b>; the drugs have been among the most prescribed class in the U.S. in recent years, and in 2013, rosuvastatin (Crestor) topped the list, earning AstraZeneca $5.4 billion in sales, according to IMS Health.<br /><br />But the dramatic shift also has some heart experts nervous about how the guidelines will translate in doctors’ offices around the country. For those with a history of heart disease, there is little debate about how beneficial statins can be in preventing second events; studies show that the drugs can significantly lower risk of death from heart events. But for healthy individuals who <b>may have some risk factors for future heart trouble, doctors have always been reluctant to prescribe medications when so much of heart disease is preventable, with proper diet and exercise.</b> “For people with no history of heart disease, but who are trying to prevent heart disease, <b>there is already a tremendous amount of overuse of statins</b> in my view in this country,” says Topol. “So my concern is that <b>the new guidelines will lead to potentially even more promiscuous use of these statins than already exists.”</b>...</i><br /><br />Why am I reminded of soma in <i>Brave New World</i>?Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29955280237463276502013-11-28T11:41:50.355-08:002013-11-28T11:41:50.355-08:00Jon,
I can't read the NYT article because I...Jon,<br />I can't read the NYT article because I've maxed out on my number of free accesses there.<br /><br />However, I did find <a href="http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/blogs/daily-dose/2013/11/18/new-cholesterol-guideline-called-inaccurate-top-boston-heart-doctors/xayiGfGPTASIsSAZyOyGWP/blog.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> via a Google search:<br /><br /><i><br /><br />New cholesterol treatment recommendations released by two heart organizations last week have come under fierce criticism for overestimating the number of people who should be prescribed cholesterol-lowering statins, prompting the groups to launch a review of the treatment guide.<br /><br />Two heart researchers from Brigham and Women’s hospital tested a risk assessment tool a few days after it was published in the new guideline and found that it greatly overestimates the risk of developing cardiovascular disease and may result in millions of people being unnecessarily given statins to prevent heart attacks and strokes.... </i><br /><br />Statins do entail risks. Rarely do complications follow, but they did occur for my cousin. He died as a result.<br /><br />Something similar has happened with diabetic thresholds. <br /><br />All the "preventive" care included in ObamaCare is going to send premiums soaring!<br /><br />America, you have been scammed <b>BIG TIME</b> when it comes to health insurance and what you want it to pay for! It is not financially feasible for health insurance to pay for so much! Premiums <b>must</b> be raised!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-68742779934240234892013-11-28T10:57:55.603-08:002013-11-28T10:57:55.603-08:00Z,
FYI
RE: STATINS
http://www.nytimes.com/2013...Z,<br /><br />FYI<br /><br />RE: STATINS<br /><br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/18/health/risk-calculator-for-cholesterol-appears-flawed.html?hp&_r=1&JonBerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718776762194333398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29074887611310245662013-11-28T10:51:03.118-08:002013-11-28T10:51:03.118-08:00Z,
Getting PRICES down is the key, in my opinion. ...Z,<br /><i>Getting PRICES down is the key, in my opinion. The problem with that is it's almost impossible to drive that horse back into the barn. </i><br /><br />There is a way, but it's not a short-term remedy and would require taking more personal financial responsibility than paying a monthly premium.<br /><br />People think nothing of taking an extravagant vacation -- instead of socking away money for a rainy day (medical catastrophe).<br /><br />The elephant in the room: health insurance does not prevent medical bankruptcy. Most medical bankruptcies happen to people who have health insurance -- even major medical (as opposed to bare bones policies).<br /><br />Ah, well. David Goldhill has written an extremely important article followed by a book. Who is paying attention? Certainly not our policy makers!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-77242352601386857662013-11-28T07:30:28.769-08:002013-11-28T07:30:28.769-08:00JonBerg..you're lucky! it's very rare to b...JonBerg..you're lucky! it's very rare to be able to get numbers to go down without drugs, sadly.<br />I have so many friends who ate no fat, etc etc..and NOTHING.<br />I wish I could do niacin; the hot flush is awful!!<br /><br />AOW; I rest my case. Getting PRICES down is the key, in my opinion. The problem with that is it's almost impossible to drive that horse back into the barn.<br /><br />Interesting stuff from the CPUSA..<br />WHY can't the LEFT learn this stuff? They're just blindly believing Republicans hate the sick and are only fighting Obamacare because we're racists :-)<br /><br />They forget some of us ARE black and all of us DO need healthcare and MANY of us are NOT RICH.<br /><br />Go figure. Wouldn't that wake a liberal UP??<br /><br />Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-92157904527157064962013-11-28T04:02:29.379-08:002013-11-28T04:02:29.379-08:00Meanwhile from the CPUSA we reading this: Obamacar...Meanwhile from the CPUSA we reading this: <a href="http://peoplesworld.org/obamacare-grumbling-is-not-enough/" rel="nofollow">Obamacare: Grumbling is not enough</a>.<br /><br />Excerpt:<br /><br /><i>...<b>[G]rumbling about the problems of the health care rollout heard in some progressive and left circles needs to give way to actively resisting the right</b> wing's campaign to kill Obamacare and regain the initiative leading into the midterm and 2016 elections.<br /><br />With all its shortcomings, Obamacare is a step in the right direction; it extends health care - a social right - to millions who up to now have none, and partially curbs the power of the health care industry, while its defeat would set back the struggle for health care for all much longer than I would care to think. That's why the far right is fighting it so hard!<br /><br />Thus, energizing, uniting, and raising the understanding of ever more people to oppose right-wing extremism in every arena of struggle - not least of which is defense of the Affordable Health Care Act - is the order of the day.<br /><br /><b>Of critical importance in this regard is the fight against racism in its material and ideological forms.</b> Racism was the main vehicle used to bust up the New Deal coalition and fuel the ascendancy of the right wing over the past three or more decades. By the same token, the struggle against it is at the core of building a movement with the ideological, political, and organizational capacity and unity to <b>dislodge the right and usher in an era of deep going progressive, even radical, change</b>.</i>Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-30034875751347014442013-11-28T03:57:08.142-08:002013-11-28T03:57:08.142-08:00Kid said...
libtards really ARE sociopath. The wo...Kid said...<br /><i> libtards really ARE sociopath. The worst kind</i><br /><br /><br /><b>AMEN TO THAT! </b>The Gallantwarriornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-35513089002863845332013-11-28T02:55:15.497-08:002013-11-28T02:55:15.497-08:00Z,
the problem is ONE SURGERY could ruin your futu...Z,<br /><i>the problem is ONE SURGERY could ruin your future ENTIRELY financially. ENTIRELY. Then what?</i><br /><br />"Ay! There's the rub!"<br /><br />It used to be that one could negotiate down the bill by 40% if one was self-pay. Georgetown University Medical Center dropped my friend's bill from %100,000 to $60,000 back in 1993. <br /><br />Sometimes the discount is even more.<br /><br />For example, when I needed YAG laser surgery in 1986, the price of the procedure went from $1200 to $300. The surgeon had the power to finalize that price because the hospital was one owned by doctors: Doctors Hospital of Northern Virginia. Now, there is not a single hospital here owned by groups of doctors; instead, we have university hospitals (where negotiation <b>is</b> still possible) and county hospitals (no negotiation allowed except via a doctor who doesn't accept any medical insurance whatsoever). At the county hospitals, patients and families are not allowed to negotiate. What the hell?<br /><br />The very fact that so many have health insurance is driving up the prices of medical care. And ObamaCare will make the problem even worse! Just a few years from now, most Americans will come to that realization. But it will be too late by then: people will be clamoring for single payer because they won't know any better.<br /><br /><b>Kid is correct that we SHOULD all cancel our policies.</b> The problem with that strategy: people will not stick together.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-90452278153636874562013-11-28T02:41:13.864-08:002013-11-28T02:41:13.864-08:00Sam,
David Goldhill's book Catastrophic Care i...Sam,<br />David Goldhill's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Catastrophic-Care-American-Health-Father/dp/0307961540/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1&qid=1385635127" rel="nofollow">book</a> <i>Catastrophic Care</i> is even better than the article he wrote. I highly recommend it!<br /><br />And he doesn't recommend single payer either!Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-15218488957315058942013-11-28T02:38:07.352-08:002013-11-28T02:38:07.352-08:00Z,
When it costs me $800 for a hand surgery in Fra...Z,<br /><i>When it costs me $800 for a hand surgery in France, compared to probably $12K here, you know costs are WAY out of hand.</i><br /><br />Something I've learned from reading David Goldhill's book <i>Catastrophic Care</i>: Shouldn't we be talking about <b>prices, not costs</b>? The word <i>cost(s)</i> somehow implies inevitability.<br /><br />What is driving up those prices?<br /><br />In part:<br /><br />1. Medicare, which sets rates and diagnostic codes. Those rates and codes are then adopted in some form all across the healthcare industry.<br /><br />2. The very idea that "something that is good idea for me should be paid by my health insurance."<br /><br />3. Lack of actual competition in the health insurance market.<br /><br />ObamaCare will make the latter worse! There is nothing wrong with bare-bones insurance (catastrophic, etc.).<br /><br />BTW, yesterday I read in the WaPo's "Federal Diary" that federal government employees have plans with only $1000 annual premium. Please see <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/federal_government/why-are-some-feds-health-insurance-premiums-increasing-more-than-others/2013/11/26/76cd23ec-56cf-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_print.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.Always On Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192688822955022541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-75018644776983089852013-11-27T23:40:10.555-08:002013-11-27T23:40:10.555-08:00"JonBerg...ever tried to significantly lower ..."JonBerg...ever tried to significantly lower cholesterol on your own?"<br /><br />Absolutely, I watch saturated fat and take Niacin 1000 mg, non flush, @ 90 for >$ 9.00 for a 3 month supply. My last check was, for the big number, 146 and the LDL&HDL numbers were well within the range that they should<br /> be. MY Doctor, however, is part of the scam which I've exposed on this site, once before. He is among many, from what I understand! I'm on Medicare and I suppose that makes me lucky just to have a Doctor. I guess it won't get better.JonBerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718776762194333398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-31083480981173127702013-11-27T22:13:04.405-08:002013-11-27T22:13:04.405-08:00JB, I disagree about the statins. I think they&...JB, I disagree about the statins. I think they've saved a heck of a lot of lives, though you are right about muscle ache, etc ..side effects can be difficult, then you have to stop taking that particular one.<br /><br />I TOTALLY agree with you about colonoscopies after 65..TOTALLY. It takes a long time to grow something lethal and, if a colonoscopy at 65 shows no polyps, growths, tumors, etc., you're not going to die of colon cancer !Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-19235240487149920672013-11-27T22:00:11.901-08:002013-11-27T22:00:11.901-08:00JonBerg, great comments all btw. JonBerg, great comments all btw. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-58247945336515642102013-11-27T21:59:45.479-08:002013-11-27T21:59:45.479-08:00JonBerg. Z. I'm mixed.
I took statins for a c...JonBerg. Z. I'm mixed.<br /><br />I took statins for a couple years.<br />According to blood tests, my levels are down considerably, but there were side effects that caused me to stop taking them about a year ago.<br /><br />I told the doc I had some problems, and in talking to him about it, he said, well, it takes a long time for that stuff to buildup in your arteries which I read as I don't see a big need to take them anymore. Also, you can, (for an unknown to me cost) have a camera inserted into your major arteries and have them cleaned out if necessary too. I won't be taking statins anymore.<br /><br />Also, I read where it takes a Long time to develop the kinds of problems a colonoscopy is intended to head off and people should probably stop getting them after the age of about 65 as it's unlikely you'll develop something that that this procedure could fix before you're going to die of something else anyway. I'm kind of down with that analysis.<br /><br />Yea, I do believe the health industry tends to lead us around by the nose for profit. Let no one read that as support for oblammycare in any form. PS- throttle the trial lawyers, all of em.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-25519604616026996152013-11-27T21:51:49.944-08:002013-11-27T21:51:49.944-08:00JonBerg...ever tried to significantly lower choles...JonBerg...ever tried to significantly lower cholesterol on your own?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-27378915593629079612013-11-27T21:46:19.615-08:002013-11-27T21:46:19.615-08:00Have any of you been hassled to take a 'Satin ...Have any of you been hassled to take a 'Satin Drug' by your Doctor? This is, moreover, a scam. It's all about Big Pharama, profits and nothing about you! OH yes, your wonderful Doctor may be getting some good override, as well. If that Dr. says that you need it, make damn sure that you do because you probably don't!!! That shit is full of poison<br /> that causes more problems than what it ever thought to fix. BIG PHARAMA, BIG PROFIT- SMALL YOU !!!JonBerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01718776762194333398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-62656893704726624732013-11-27T21:14:53.905-08:002013-11-27T21:14:53.905-08:00And who is to say, the death panel, aka 'revie...And who is to say, the death panel, aka 'review board of A...' isn't going to put you on the forever waiting list anyway.<br />Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-83563389282352946242013-11-27T21:11:37.176-08:002013-11-27T21:11:37.176-08:00Z, Well, if they can't turn away people with p...Z, Well, if they can't turn away people with preexisting conditions, then you can wait until something happens where you think you might need -or have a doc tell you during a checkup- a more serious illness.<br /><br />Sign up at that point. ?Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-87268739645574398602013-11-27T20:59:27.820-08:002013-11-27T20:59:27.820-08:00http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/open-marr...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/26/open-marriage-_n_4345000.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592<br /><br />Imp, check out that link....it's been the top article on Yahoo for four days and has moved down to #4 or something today. <br />Oh, yes..Conservatives warned, when gay marriage was accepted, that it would lead to more. And, with our miserable immoral culture as it is, how could polyamory be far?<br />How DISGUSTING. And as if our kids aren't SCREWED UP enough?<br /><br />Kid, the problem is ONE SURGERY could ruin your future ENTIRELY financially. ENTIRELY. Then what?<br />Otherwise, that's what I do; I pay my GP and much of my prescriptions and let insurance pay the rest.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-7271701351802724452013-11-27T20:01:58.548-08:002013-11-27T20:01:58.548-08:00M4E, I believe everything in your ocare 'succe...M4E, I believe everything in your ocare 'success' link. Great Link. Also got in an email a little bit ago. Ahyep.<br /><br />Z, libtards really ARE sociopath. The worst kind. They don't care about 'women's rights', 'the planet', 'health care' or any other thing unless it serves as a political talking point or more to the point serves them in some way. They don't give a * about Anything but their own fill in the blank.<br /><br />I'll exclude the kids that are still so stupid they think liberal idealism is a good thing to solve problems with.<br /><br /><br />Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-37989555788731720082013-11-27T19:54:01.433-08:002013-11-27T19:54:01.433-08:00I'm reading thru the comments. WOW AOW, I Real...I'm reading thru the comments. WOW AOW, I Really agree with you.<br /><br />We need to make government effectively Impotent on this issue.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-66975002438458902042013-11-27T19:49:49.699-08:002013-11-27T19:49:49.699-08:00AOW, I'm with you obviously.AOW, I'm with you obviously.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05287399775879832602noreply@blogger.com