tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post6900944461225196665..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Jonathan David Kahn ....American Heart; Liberal HypocrisyZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-4780006058799285392010-05-20T11:12:34.224-07:002010-05-20T11:12:34.224-07:00Matisse, a friend of mine's a close friend of ...Matisse, a friend of mine's a close friend of his mom's...so I've heard more than I can say here..<br />I wish YOU could tell your story here under the anonymity of my blog...what you've gone through as someone in the arts...the comments you've heard when people didn't know your politics. Think about it! I'd love to publish it, and it shouldn't be long, just tell us some of what you've gone through...anonymously.<br /><br />it's like Nazi Germany, when you think of it...and the left STILL slams Joseph McCarthy? Hilarious.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-68085315295283442002010-05-20T11:04:49.656-07:002010-05-20T11:04:49.656-07:00I have known the Kahn family since the early 1970&...I have known the Kahn family since the early 1970's.<br /><br />They were at my sister's wedding.<br /><br />It does not surprize me that Jonathan had to go undercover.<br /><br />Hollywood just assumes you are "one of "them" and, if you dare show your true colors, you're out of a job and banned forever. That's it. No going back ever.<br /><br />I know, I have lived it first hand.<br /><br />It is brutal with that crowd and<br />Jonathan is going to have a very rough ride now. His folks will try to protect him, and help him when no more work comes his way, but even they can only do so much.<br /><br />His best chance now is to be taken in by the Republican/tea party crowd, in a big way.<br /><br />It did my heart good to read the true confession by a big time Hollywood type about the ways of the Hollywood "club". <br /><br />It is the same way in all The Arts. No room for the republican or conservative----- period.<br /><br />You are either with them or they hate you, and I do mean hate, even if they pretend, and say things like " He's a nice guy, just misguided." <br /><br />In their hearts there is zero room for another point of view.<br /><br />He will have to find a new "club"<br />to join.<br /><br />Good luck Jonathan! Hang in there!<br />MatisseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-22331639790206391512010-05-20T09:20:40.049-07:002010-05-20T09:20:40.049-07:00By the way, "Anne", why so shy? Go back ...By the way, "Anne", why so shy? Go back to posting with your screen name, it's okay :-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-6181783970330246302010-05-20T09:19:01.204-07:002010-05-20T09:19:01.204-07:00Anne, thanks, but I'll continue responding to ...Anne, thanks, but I'll continue responding to Ducky as long as I'd like to. He and I've been blogging together for approx 12 years...there's a history...<br />and, I don't want an ECHO CHAMBER blog of all people who believe like I do. We get some great conversations going and I'm sorry if any of my responses have troubled you! :-)<br />But, thank you for your advice.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32235777599390310262010-05-20T05:09:53.615-07:002010-05-20T05:09:53.615-07:00Ducky wants attention. It doesn't matter wheth...Ducky wants attention. It doesn't matter whether it's favorable attention or not. Any kind of attention will do.<br /><br />Whenever anyone responds to his prickly, sarcastic little remarks, the recognition thrills and satisfies him.<br /><br />This is probably a life that has too much time on its hands, too little responsibility and no real sense of purpose.<br /><br />So, if you don't like Ducky, it would be better not to respond to him.<br /><br />Responding to such a personality only gives it what it craves. It doesn't matter whether you damn him or praise him. Either way he gets the attention that tells him he's still alive.<br /><br />Respond and you instantly become a player in HIS game.<br /><br />Think about how your responses define you to outsiders, and you might react differently.<br /><br />Anne AutseiderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-24800059649351757022010-05-20T02:59:03.506-07:002010-05-20T02:59:03.506-07:00thank you, Lucy (or marion!), for someone not know...thank you, Lucy (or marion!), for someone not knowing what to say, you said something very nice...:-) Welcome, please keep commenting.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-49756808504351236232010-05-20T02:23:02.627-07:002010-05-20T02:23:02.627-07:00Ducky,
It's because I do not subscribe to the...Ducky,<br /><br />It's because I do not subscribe to the laughably absurd notion that leftists are capable of rational thought that I can point to people like Salman Rushdie, Theo Van Gogh, Kurt Westergaard, and the children hung to death by the regime in Iran for accusing their rapists and notice that perhaps the "pro-democracy Iranian film industry" is a low priority for hatred from the Iranian regime. <br /><br />Meanwhile we've got you going "bagger bagger bagger" like a good little Hollywood robot hoping against hope no one notices that you're an imbecile.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-11524857958795275402010-05-20T00:53:53.912-07:002010-05-20T00:53:53.912-07:00"They destroy careers, and cheat their audien...<b><i>"They destroy careers, and cheat their audiences of anything wholesome and good which has to do with American values."</i></b><br /><br /><br />That's not all they cheat on these "role models" for People, Us, We and O...fornicating ( with anything that moves ), wife swapping, pedophiles, drunks, drug addicts, sexual deviants, whores, prostitutes ( Thanks Tiger ) frolicking loons that obey no laws...pay homage to no morals...who support nothing but hedonism, narcissism, self indulgence and exemplify pleasure and privilege at any cost to society. Then they cry they're so "troubled, conflicted " and psychologically vulnerable to....the pressure they have to live under....scrutiny they call it!<br /><br />An old Roman orgy of self pity, pleasure, drugs and perversion. Yet...our silly kids want to be like JLo, Lohan or Paris?!!<br /><br /><br /><br />Oh..and Prisc...not to be picky...but I'm sure you meant "FOUL"...rather than fowl...when addressing the pro bagger ( know that we know what that is ) duckfart?<br /><br />MajorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-89947693695686491322010-05-19T21:27:38.043-07:002010-05-19T21:27:38.043-07:00z, Panahi has been a very vocal champion of women&...z, Panahi has been a very vocal champion of women's rights in Iran. You often ask why Muslims don't speak out. They do but you aren't listening.<br /><br /> If you ever get a chance to see "The Circle" you should give it a look. I have no idea why you would call it elitist unless you consider criticizing the Iranian regime to be elitist.<br /><br /> Anyway, "this guy" has put it on the line and unlike the self promoting joke, John David, may not work for a long time.<br /><br /> Happened with the Chinese 5th wave too and now they just do martial arts films with little exception. But they were probably elitist for criticizing the Chinese government.<br /><br /> It's a big world, z, and when it comes to political statements, Hollywood has nothing to say. Hasn't been political for a long time. An if you think John David isn't going to get a boost from this and be right back t producing pablum then your just blind.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-79967880338704223252010-05-19T21:21:59.206-07:002010-05-19T21:21:59.206-07:00"The Passion" would not have found it..."The Passion" would not have found it's way to the screen if it were up to the Hollywood movers and shakers. It ended up making six hundred million dollars, because Gibson so believed in it and funded it himself.<br /><br /> ------------<br /><br /> Neither would "The Last Temptation of Christ" which the right tried to censor but if you prefer Gibson's homoerotic sadomasochism then you have to resolve that yourself.<br /><br /> Now compare Gibson's and Scorcese's film. Did Gibson have any trouble booking screens? Did Scorcese?<br /><br /> Did Blockbuster refuse to carry Gibson's film due to left wing pressure? Did Blockbuster refuse to carry Scorcese's film due to right wing pressure?<br /> Did noted antisemite Gibson's dust up with the ADL and Abe Foxman hurt his box office? <br /><br /> If you want to do some extra credit you might discuss why the only nation to emphasize Christ's physical suffering was Germany? Believe me it's a fascinating subject.<br /><br /> As for your "true" faith, Pris. Remember, faith is not a guarantee.<br /><br /> Still the Gidson film, all that sadomasochism and Gibson's constant theme that physical suffering is the only road to redemption. Doesn't sound very biblical to me but I try to give these things some thought.<br /><br /> Pitch till you win.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-54955252982762842692010-05-19T21:03:24.973-07:002010-05-19T21:03:24.973-07:00Beamish, you do realize that the film industry in ...Beamish, you do realize that the film industry in Iran has been a force that is very much pro democracy and pretty much hated by the regime.<br /><br /> Of course, if low functionals like yourself watched a few you may get a better idea of the culture. <br /><br /> Your choice. Although I don't thin you ar capable of thinking of a film as anything but some Hollywood special effects fest.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-51557889058315524822010-05-19T21:00:22.971-07:002010-05-19T21:00:22.971-07:00It has everything to do with z's post, Pris.
...It has everything to do with z's post, Pris.<br /><br /> She posts up some puff piece about some guy at a Bagger event who has supposedly been hounded by the nasty liberals in Hollywood. She however can post no evidence whatsoever that he has suffered at all. Nor can she demonstrate that this was anything but a publicity stunt.<br /><br /> I thought it would be interesting just to post something about artists who do suffer serious repercussions for speaking out in favor of freedom (i.e. human rights, not exactly your idea of freedom, Pris, but it will have to do). It puts the right wing whining in perspective.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-60064681113404756422010-05-19T16:14:55.616-07:002010-05-19T16:14:55.616-07:00Pris said "For want of a more current name, I...Pris said "For want of a more current name, I'll just put forward that McCarthyism is alive and well in Hollywood. It's just practiced now by the folks who say they abhor it."<br />BRAVO, well said.<br /><br />Major..."Like most dedicated service men and women....making sure these twerps can still say what they want."...even while patriots are being insulted. THAT is a patriot :-)<br />(thanks again for your service)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74067183916843011612010-05-19T15:57:07.834-07:002010-05-19T15:57:07.834-07:00Z, Ducky's just pulling the old bait and switc...Z, Ducky's just pulling the old bait and switch. It's his specialty. An artist who is imprisoned has nothing to do with your post.<br /><br />Maybe the little fowl doesn't want the real issue to come forth. That issue is, that the Hollywood crowd who abhors McCarthyism, is now in full practice of that very dynamic that they have abhored for decades.<br />It's called blacklisting.<br /><br />I guess they only abhor it when it applied to communists or far left ideology. They appealed for tolerance. They cried for their Hollywood comrades, yet, let someone they don't agree with announce his patriotism and he worries his career in the movie business is over. <br /><br />This is the hypocrisy. This is an unusual example of absolute power corrupting absolutely, but that's what it is. It's also a form of censorship.<br /><br />"The Passion" would not have found it's way to the screen if it were up to the Hollywood movers and shakers. It ended up making six hundred million dollars, because Gibson so believed in it and funded it himself.<br /><br />Now, before Ducky brings up Gibson's personal failings, I'm mentioning that here and now. That is not the issue, and I will discuss it no further.<br /><br />If he mentions it, remember you heard it here first.<br /><br />The issue is that the left cannot stomach patriotism, true faith, conservatism, or the military. <br /><br />They're infantile, just like that sister-in-law of Mr. Kahn's who ran out of the room rather than see a photo of Sarah Palin.<br /><br />They destroy careers, and cheat their audiences of anything wholesome and good which has to do with American values. Instead they produce mostly junk films which aren't worth the screens they're shown on.<br /><br />For want of a more current name, I'll just put forward that McCarthyism is alive and well in Hollywood. It's just practiced now by the folks who say they abhor it.<br /><br />Hypocrites, intolerant infantiles, and destroyers of careers before they're barely begun. That's the mainstay of Hollywood today, and that's the issue!<br /><br />PrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-62087107421672846892010-05-19T15:45:28.047-07:002010-05-19T15:45:28.047-07:00"This is about hypocrisy...this is about a gu...<b><i>"This is about hypocrisy...this is about a guy who still loves this country and sings about it,,"</i></b><br /><br /><br />Yep...the left loves art and it's usefulness as "freedom of expression" but not the artist who expresses that freedom. Hypocrisy? You bet...so long as they express THEIR narrow views...the artist will survive. But cross that line that has the artist at odds with his lockstep, narrow minded, elitist bark humping, tofu chomping, clean farting, nuts...he / she is toast.<br /><br />The time is getter better and better to show these privileged weenie assholes we have their futures in our crosshairs. Personally....I haven't paid $10 to see their pusses at a theater in more than a few years. Course....I wasn't in the country much....but...I was doing other things. Like most dedicated service men and women....making sure these twerps can still say what they want.<br /><br />MajorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84011570206129504642010-05-19T14:50:11.053-07:002010-05-19T14:50:11.053-07:00Yes, Ducky. Let's get back to the days when Ir...Yes, Ducky. Let's get back to the days when Iran was hanging children for accusing their rapists and Bill Clinton was praising their government for being moderate.<br /><br />Because really good films were coming out of Iran then.<br /><br />What a putz you are. <br /><br />Besides, like Theo Van Gogh, your Iranian "art martyr" probably brought Iran's ire upon himself, right?(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-35821971248074275402010-05-19T14:04:05.525-07:002010-05-19T14:04:05.525-07:00It took courage and I hope his career will even be...It took courage and I hope his career will even be better than before. I am sure he is not the only Hollywood type that is incognito. <br /><br />They are just too afraid to be ostracized by their peers.Trekkie4Everhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03226981394122557804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-79000457614455584362010-05-19T13:32:08.459-07:002010-05-19T13:32:08.459-07:00p.s. I see the lyrics are at Big Hollywood, thank...p.s. I see the lyrics are at Big Hollywood, thanks.<br /><br />DebbieRight Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18274108313586611205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-24661104536113376622010-05-19T13:30:07.106-07:002010-05-19T13:30:07.106-07:00That's a great song. I saw that he was suppos...That's a great song. I saw that he was supposed to be on Fox, but I missed it. Are the full lyrics anywhere on the web? I'll do a search. I may get hubby's [hobby] band to do this song.<br /><br />Debbie<br />Right Truth<br />http://www.righttruth.typepad.comRight Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18274108313586611205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-90675729452108127142010-05-19T13:14:40.880-07:002010-05-19T13:14:40.880-07:00I can't tell you specifics because I know too ...I can't tell you specifics because I know too much and can't discuss it...<br /><br />I'd have thought what I've said is way enough for anybody to understand. Let me know when you come up with his press agent's name, okay?...because he HAS NONE. Sorry.<br /><br />As for films? I don't CARE. There are some foreign films I like, there hundreds of American films I HATE....<br />GOOD FOR YOUR GUY, DUCKY...okay? I'm done.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-89134863235363829172010-05-19T13:11:44.102-07:002010-05-19T13:11:44.102-07:00Ducky, I have never considered you a crazy-maker.....Ducky, I have never considered you a crazy-maker....i've considered you dishonest, elitist and sometimes not paying attention ,but you have a problem with my calling him THIS GUY? I don't KNOW HIM....what do you prefer, THIS SAINT?<br /><br />Who cares about resume? I am not the one who compared Jon David and his plight to YOUR GUY (oops..sorry, THE SAINTED ONE), remember?<br /><br />I wish YOUR SAINT well.....nobody should suffer.<br />I wish Jon David many healthy years of trying to sing about a country he believes in and loves and for his job never to be taken away for having done so. That's all! This is not about anything but that.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-39873791402557506932010-05-19T13:10:52.153-07:002010-05-19T13:10:52.153-07:00My elitist film makers? Ah, now we're getting ...My elitist film makers? Ah, now we're getting to it.<br /><br /> You don't think films are being made about events in Africa? <br /><br /> They won't get screened at the megaplex but they are being made, z. The liberal (LMFAO) Hollywood establishment is taking over the progress voice in film.<br /><br /> Really, z, you are a little far removed from this and trying to filter it through the eyes of an American consumer isn't going to work.<br /><br /> Now what actual price has John David paid for going along with his press agent's stunt. Specifics please.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-50952820697387587752010-05-19T13:07:03.768-07:002010-05-19T13:07:03.768-07:00No, z, you referred to Jafar Panahi as "this ...No, z, you referred to Jafar Panahi as "this guy".<br /><br /> Panahi has a little more on his resume than John David. Considerably more.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-25981153305931775062010-05-19T12:58:40.402-07:002010-05-19T12:58:40.402-07:00Ducky, I'd never even suggest this guy's a...Ducky, I'd never even suggest this guy's a 'martyr', maybe that's the difference between you and me. DRAMA!<br />And I'd laugh if Cannes shuts down for one dissenter....and I'll bet they wouldn't if they got a gut-wrenching letter from a poor man suffering in Mugabe's jails.<br />But, let it come from IRAN and OH, are they INTERESTED.<br /><br />Jon David would laugh with your comparison, Ducky......anybody should.<br /><br />And, I'll never stop believing that Americans have the right to say what they want and not risk persecution for standing up for this country.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-32471770929042140362010-05-19T12:47:28.234-07:002010-05-19T12:47:28.234-07:00Well, z, I'm not sure there is much that can b...Well, z, I'm not sure there is much that can be done about Darfur or Zimbabwe (although the situation in the latter is somewhat better these days) and at any rate they surely haven't suffered like John David.<br /><br /> I bring up Panahi because you present David as someone who may be suffering political persecution and I wanted to give an example of an artist who is suffering real political persecution.<br /><br /> Happens a lot. Muslim painters in India have been the target of Hindus recently. But they only got hospitalized. Nothing like the suffering of John David.<br /><br /> I'd like to think art and culture still have some power in this world but that idea is fading. So you can see there is a direct link between my post and your article. The only issue is that I don't agree with your interpretation so I am somehow "wrong" and didn't read the story of this noble martyr, John David, closely enough.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.com