tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post7418257548679139456..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Gentility...............is there any left?Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger105125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-51925300722833161602011-01-12T22:12:21.011-08:002011-01-12T22:12:21.011-08:00Thank you, Z. I'm glad you understand. Sorry t...Thank you, Z. I'm glad you understand. Sorry the software is giving you problems, but glad I'm not the only one who's had these weird experiences. Hope you're feeling better and better each day -- been thinking 'bout ya. ;-)<br /><br />~ FT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-64302545400268457702011-01-12T21:58:20.599-08:002011-01-12T21:58:20.599-08:00FT, no problem....It's very aggravating to me ...FT, no problem....It's very aggravating to me that friends' comments are disappearing...it has happened to FrogBurger, Beamish and, I believe, Pris, too.....very frustrating for them AND ME.<br />Sorry it's happened to you.....it's not a big deal to delete, don't worry about it..:-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-38585444498964573052011-01-10T23:36:42.347-08:002011-01-10T23:36:42.347-08:00Thank you once again, Waylon, for an excellent, fa...Thank you once again, Waylon, for an excellent, fact-filled post. <br /><br />I have always stood up for Richard Nixon, because I believed he was the victim of journalistic <i>coup d'etat</i>, but if he truly was largely responsible for taking us off the gold standard, as I believe someone asserted, then that alone is a good reason for his ill repute -- but NOT "Watergate."<br /><br />One dollar today has the purchasing power one NICKEL had a hundred years ago. <br /><br />How and why did that happen? <br /><br />I've always blamed it on the ceaseless pressure from unions for workers to be paid more and more for producing less and less, but if the Federal Reserve has been moving us towards an ever more unstable, ultimately worthless currency plumped up to keep everyone quiet by issuing fiat money (the moral equivalent of the old shinplasters and confederate bills), then all the members of the Fed should be rounded up and carted in tumbrils to the guillotine.<br /><br />In case anyone wants to learn more about Ron Paul just type his name into google. Scads of references come up, and most of them are not nearly as damaging and unflattering to the 75-year-old representative from Texas as I imagined they would be given that he is such an outspoken, anti-Establishment figure who acts as a lightning rod for often brutal controversy.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-50782489940896202262011-01-10T19:14:18.669-08:002011-01-10T19:14:18.669-08:00Here are a couple of quotations one from someone m...Here are a couple of quotations one from someone most sane people would regard as a revolutionary leftist and the other from a "progressive" Fabian Socialist and both recognize the importance of destroying a currency if a nation is to be conquered and destroyed ...<br /><br />"The surest way to destroy a nation is to debauch its currency." — Lenin"<br /><br />“By a continuing process of inflation, government can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.” — John Maynard Keynes<br /><br />Nobody can logically argue that since the creation of a central bank in 1913 that the US$ hasn't been debauched since its current value is somewhere about four cents today versus par when the FED began.<br /><br />Aside from Lenin and Keynes several intelligent men recognized the importance of a currency to a national economy:<br /><br />"We should the heed the wise words of Daniel Webster:<br /><br /> "A disordered currency is one of the greatest political evils. It undermines the virtues necessary for the support of the social system, and encourages propensities destructive to its happiness. It wars against industry, frugality and economy, and it fosters evil spirits of extravagance and speculation. Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effectual than that which deludes them with paper money..."<br /> Congressional Record, March 4, 1846"<br /><br />"Lewis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking Commission and Member of Congress, speaking about the international financial conspirators during the very time they were taking over the monetary control of America:<br /><br /> "We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks, hereinafter called the Fed. They are not government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the People of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign and domestic swindlers; rich and predatory moneylenders."<br /><br />- McFadden died mysteriously in 1936 after three attempts on his life."<br /><br />"George W. Malone, U.S. Senator from Nevada speaking before Congress in 1957 alluded to the families that secretly own the Federal Reserve Bank and control the finances of the United States:<br /><br /> "I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the past 49 years, they would move on Washington, they would not wait for an election... It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States."<br /><br />http://www.ssrsi.org/Onsite/BBStext/whybkusa.htm<br /><br />WaylonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-19059868770715251842011-01-10T15:31:18.033-08:002011-01-10T15:31:18.033-08:00Since one of the first things the progressives did...Since one of the first things the progressives did when they were elected in 1912 was to create a central bank. So to make this pig fly: Ron Paul is "progressive leftist", how do you explain his opposition to the Federal Reserve?<br /><br />WaylonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-30771572751532995482011-01-10T14:19:32.010-08:002011-01-10T14:19:32.010-08:00Hi Z,
Speaking for myself I don't have a probl...Hi Z,<br />Speaking for myself I don't have a problem with anything factual beamish would like to post about Ron Paul. I'm sure there is much I could learn about him since I know very little -- I do like the quotes that FreeT posted. <br /><br />In fact until his most recent posts beamish hasn't given much in the way of facts, he's just called people names and accused people of accepting things he imputes to Ron Paul without giving any evidence that they know those things or agree with them or even bothering to prove they are really true of Ron Paul. <br /><br />Now that he has given some evidence I find myself uninclined to pay much attention anyway because my main objection to beamish is his demeaning nasty attitude toward his opponents, and that's what Craig said his problem is with him too. Beyond that I can't speak for Craig. But to me beamish's namecalling and accusatoriness has reached the lowest of the low and I'm surprised you can speak so highly of him considering that.<br /><br />Now let me see if this will post as recent attempts have failed.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-55132852082051409252011-01-10T13:09:00.627-08:002011-01-10T13:09:00.627-08:00Z,
A couple of my posts appeared and then disappe...Z,<br /><br />A couple of my posts appeared and then disappeared without a trace. Since those items were intended to be informative and not combative, I thought perhaps the software was playing tricks on us, which I've been told CAN happen. SO, I thought posting a number or two to see if it would "stick" was a harmless way of testing the waters.<br /><br />Sorry if it added to your burdens in any way. <br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-60209550010023445702011-01-10T13:08:19.664-08:002011-01-10T13:08:19.664-08:00Z,
A couple of my posts appeared and then disappe...Z,<br /><br />A couple of my posts appeared and then disappeared without a trace. Since those items were intended to be informative and not combative, I thought perhaps the software was playing tricks on us, which I've been told CAN happen. SO, I thought posting a number or two to see if it would "stick" was a harmless way of testing the waters.<br /><br />Sorry if it added to your burdens in any way. <br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-82448430899338713872011-01-10T09:53:23.030-08:002011-01-10T09:53:23.030-08:00Anonymous, stop, please. I'm not feeling well ...Anonymous, stop, please. I'm not feeling well enough to come on only to find you're counting comments.<br /><br />Craig, please PLEASE check out some of the moveon and Huffington comments........one out of five make the Tucson shooter sound sane and kind (meanwhile, he's referred to finally as a LEFTWING NUT now...I guess the media stuff didn't work)<br /><br />I'm surprised Beamish bothers you so much; is it because he DOES present facts/figures most of the time, or such logic you can't fight...so it's easier to pile it on ?<br /><br />I didn't ask you to leave, Craig...read my comment.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74702118884699478582011-01-10T06:57:04.772-08:002011-01-10T06:57:04.772-08:009595Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-33449387184616277212011-01-09T20:21:29.757-08:002011-01-09T20:21:29.757-08:009494Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-225235154966576962011-01-09T18:51:41.103-08:002011-01-09T18:51:41.103-08:00I just wonder why he has the need to ridicule and ...<i>I just wonder why he has the need to ridicule and demean everyone he disagrees with.</i><br /><br />I only ridicule and demean stupid people. Especially stupid people who come bearing bullshit.<br /><br />I can disagree civilly with a great deal many people. Naturally I'm going to be abrasive towards leftists, who are all without a solitary exception the absolute most stupid people you can possibly discuss politics with. But I save my most fiercest ire for the insidiously stupid, who tend to draw anti-Semites, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, national socialists, 9/11 conspiracy theorists and other kinds of leftists to their cause. <br /><br />I probably wouldn't be so vocal about my contempt for Ron Paul if he were to begin identifying himself correctly as a <a href="http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/10/17/7-videos-that-prove-ron-paul-is-a-leftist-in-libertarian-clothing/" rel="nofollow">progressive leftist</a> and lay off smearing both libertarianism and conservatism proper with his mendacious stench.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-11072924798274002862011-01-09T12:28:51.998-08:002011-01-09T12:28:51.998-08:00How frustrating, now the post disappeared again --...How frustrating, now the post disappeared again -- and again. Tried posting anonymously, now back to my email address:<br /><br />---<br />My posts keep disappearing so I'm going to try again to post one that refuses to stay put:<br /><br />---<br /><br />Beamish: // My computer connects to the same internet yours does, Faith. Everything I've said about Ron Paul is fully documented and easily discovered. //<br /><br />This is a blog comments page, beamish, nobody is required to know more about the subject under discussion than what has actually been said here, let alone do the hours of research you yourself said elsewhere would be necessary in this case. <br /><br />FT did nothing but give Ron Paul quotes. You are holding people responsible for what YOU consider to be true and important, and not only holding people responsible but making slimy insinuations and calling them obnoxious names for not sharing your mere opinion. <br /><br />Your tactics are beneath contempt.<br /><br />---<br /><br />As for your most recent post, you seem not to be aware that your assessment of stupidity may not be someone else's. All I can judge from what FT has posted here is that he admires Ron Paul for the views he has objectively demonstrated with his quotes and I find those quotes admirable as well. You are wrong to attack someone for things he hasn't said.<br /><br />And once again you don't seem to know the difference between objective truth/fact and your own personal opinion. <br /><br />Frankly I have no idea what you are saying, you are just trying to sound erudite it seems to me and to intimidate others of different opinions with your violent condemnations. If you want to educate us to knowledge we lack, try doing it with some of the gentility this thread was originally about.<br /><br />---<br /><br />Just saw Craig's post: "Bully," that's what I mean. You got to the point I've been ineptly meandering around.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84397097788779114642011-01-09T12:28:22.082-08:002011-01-09T12:28:22.082-08:00Z, Happy Birthday. I'll honor your request an...Z, Happy Birthday. I'll honor your request and bow out. I do like debate, even with beamish. I just wonder why he has the need to ridicule and demean everyone he disagrees with. Well, I don't really wonder. His kind are all too common on the tubes. He's not as smart as you think, Z.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06124629994153584904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-11874969694005291452011-01-09T12:22:49.010-08:002011-01-09T12:22:49.010-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-31394422555546504822011-01-09T12:15:43.084-08:002011-01-09T12:15:43.084-08:00Craig, something wrong with watching the actual de...Craig, something wrong with watching the actual debates and not getting the lies from the media? SOmetimes I wonder if they were THERE when I hear the coverage...I saw it.<br /><br />I don't get you...you're a very, very nice guy, I suspect. Why you can't be that here is why I said I'd start deleting.<br />I want PEACE and I didn't build this blog to have lefties demean and insult....don't, and I'd love to have you here.<br /><br />Thanks for the well wishes, today's not so good as I'd hoped.<br /><br />Beamish is smart (smarter than ANY of the dopes in the senate hearings) and he's passionate and hot headed. Suits me to a TZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-43094204686792905102011-01-09T12:04:46.451-08:002011-01-09T12:04:46.451-08:00go away, Craig, you're getting boring and I...<i>go away, Craig, you're getting boring and I'm going to start deleting.<br />You're begging for a Bachman argument and you're not getting it here, obviously...go bother some other Conservative site, I'd really appreciate that.</i><br /><br />Just trying to lighten the mood a little. I would love to see Michele run. She is in my home state, you know. <br /><br /><i>You don't have to agree with his facts but he seems to know more than about anybody I know.</i><br /><br />From the woman who watches the House debates on the "US Senate Channel". High honor for beamish. Toodles and I do hope you feel better, Z.<br /><br />Thank you Faith. He is a bully.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06124629994153584904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-82213415193805330072011-01-09T11:54:00.520-08:002011-01-09T11:54:00.520-08:00Well, Faith, all you need to know about me is that...Well, Faith, all you need to know about me is that I'm rather hostile towards stupidity.<br /><br />As for Ron Paul, I find him to be a stupidity magnet of epic proportions. <br /><br />Let's assume FeebThinky does not fully or even at all share the anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, white supremacist, national socialist, progressive left-wing racial eugenics philosophy of the typical financial backer of a Ron Paul political campaign "money bomb" drive. <br /><br />We're still left with wondering how FeebThinky would keep his skull together when he realizes ending the Federal reserve and returning to the gold standard as Ron Paul would have it would put American monetary and fiscal policy into the hands of the eeeevil gold hoarding international bankers that allegedly already control everything.<br /><br />Never mind that Ron Paul is himself a Freemason...<br /><br />::I think we just lost cabin pressure::(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-62168661090418506362011-01-09T11:06:43.481-08:002011-01-09T11:06:43.481-08:00I don't know a lot about Ron Paul but what I d...I don't know a lot about Ron Paul but what I do know is that beamish has been insulting people in the most disgusting possible terms without the slightest warrant, and I find him much more offensive a presence on this thread than Craig or Ducky, and on many other threads as well. But apparently that simply means as usual that I shouldn't be here myself.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61891320844271781712011-01-09T09:56:21.048-08:002011-01-09T09:56:21.048-08:00There's nothing wrong with being a Conservativ...<i>There's nothing wrong with being a Conservative and coming up with a Conservative belief in foreign policy where we have a strong national defense and we don't go to war so carelessly. ~ Ron Paul</i><br /><br />"Have you ever read about the reasons they attacked us? They attacked us because we've been over there. We've been bombing Iraq for ten years! We've been in the Middle East... I think Reagan was right, we don't understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics. So, right now we're building an embassy in Iraq that's bigger than the Vatican! We're building fourteen permanent bases. What would we say if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico.. we would be objecting. We need to look at what we do from the perspective of what we'd do if somebody else did it to us. ... I'm suggesting that we listen to the people that attacked us and the reason they did it. And they are delighted that we're over there because Osama bin Laden has said 'I am glad you are over on our sand because we can target you so much easier.' They have already since that time killed 3,400 of our men, and I don't think it was necessary." - Ron Paul<br /><br />Let's put aside for a moment what exactly our reaction would be to China building an embassy bigger than the Vatican in the waters of the Gulf of Mexico, presumably on secret psychic-powered anti-gravity flotation devices Ron Paul read about on rense-dotcom.<br /><br />Ron Paul believes 9/11 occured because we bombed Iraqi WMD sites under Clinton, yet going to war in Iraq because of WMD and because of Iraqi support of terrorist groups was 'unnecessary' and making it easy for al Qaeda to target American soldiers.<br /><br />So, by Ron Paul's feeble attempt at reasoning, we should have a strong national defense that never deploys because they might be targeted by terrorists, who of course are totally justified in targeting them because they're deployed. We'd certainly hijack Chinese aircraft and fly them into skyscapers and kill thousands of Chinese citizens on Chinese soil if they had the audacity to build a diplomatic compound in Tennessee, and fully be justified in doing so. So obviously, we need to be sympathetic to the grievances offered by Osama bin Laden while shielding ourselves from the distinct possibility that Osama bin Laden might taunt us. Osama bin Laden's terrorists are killing us because we dared deploy to protect ourselves from Osama bin Laden's terrorists and their supporters! Great Scott! Why didn't we just listen to Osama bin Laden all along? Why, he mostly hates Jews, just like people who raise money for Ron Paul! Golly!<br /><br />I've just about eviscerated the mindless idiot Ron Paul enough. Let his imbecilic groupies pass with him into irrelevance and obscurity.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-57956173465764483172011-01-09T09:48:07.643-08:002011-01-09T09:48:07.643-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-6360115865949060452011-01-09T08:42:05.930-08:002011-01-09T08:42:05.930-08:00Aggressive assertions and unfiltered expressions o...<i>Aggressive assertions and unfiltered expressions of contempt do no make for persuasive argument.</i><br /><br />Mealymouthed phraseology does not refute stated fact.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-54453193716077207942011-01-09T08:36:49.308-08:002011-01-09T08:36:49.308-08:00go away, Craig, you're getting boring and I...go away, Craig, you're getting boring and I'm going to start deleting.<br />You're begging for a Bachman argument and you're not getting it here, obviously...go bother some other Conservative site, I'd really appreciate that.<br />Thanks.<br />By the way, if you can say that about Beamish, your reading skills are lacking. You don't have to agree with his facts but he seems to know more than about anybody I know.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-39392882499157600202011-01-09T07:55:55.972-08:002011-01-09T07:55:55.972-08:00Aggressive assertions and unfiltered expressions ...Aggressive assertions and unfiltered expressions of contempt do no make for persuasive argument.<br /><br />~ FreeThinkeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-9148882078679881222011-01-09T07:20:11.209-08:002011-01-09T07:20:11.209-08:00There's nothing wrong with being a Conservativ...There's nothing wrong with being a Conservative and coming up with a Conservative belief in foreign policy where we have a strong national defense and we don't go to war so carelessly. <br /><br />~ Ron Paul <br /><br />Throughout the 20th century, the Republican Party benefited from a non-interventionist foreign policy. Think of how Eisenhower came in to stop the Korean War. Think of how Nixon was elected to stop the mess in Vietnam. <br /><br />~ Ron Paul<br /><br /><br />War is never economically beneficial except for those in position to profit from war expenditures. <br /><br />~ Ron Paul <br /><br />Submitted by You-Know-WhoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com