tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post7674957009054726538..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Helen Thomas is RETIRINGZhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger154125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84108475680456766582010-06-09T23:11:18.609-07:002010-06-09T23:11:18.609-07:00I loved that line too, Z. Got right to the point i...I loved that line too, Z. Got right to the point in the cleverest way.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-72730860873643932402010-06-09T21:01:09.993-07:002010-06-09T21:01:09.993-07:00Faith, TONY SNOW ROCKS! That is one of THE funnies...Faith, TONY SNOW ROCKS! That is one of THE funniest lines I've heard...what a gentleman; a little slam there but nothing nasty. How I wish we had statesmen left like that young man who died so young.<br />Thanks for sharing that.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-70474524540092769422010-06-09T14:33:08.354-07:002010-06-09T14:33:08.354-07:00Here's a page on how she's said such thing...Here's <a href="http://www.traditionalvalues.org/read/3921/thomas-blazed-the-trail-to-ignorance/" rel="nofollow">a page on how she's said such things many times before</a>. Which is why I was surprised she's getting such a drubbing for it now. It's just standard leftist Israel-hatred. <br /><br />Some quotes from the link:<br /><br /><i><b>Absolutely no one in the White House Press Corps was surprised.<br /><br />Several, including one of my favorites Brit Hume, admitted that they had heard her express similar hateful statements throughout her career. . . <br /><br />After one long and winding “question” from Thomas, the late Tony Snow thanked her and said it was always helpful to get the Hezbollah point of view.<br /><br />How long do you think Ms. Thomas would have lasted if she had been anti-Muslim or pro-Christian? . . .</b></i>Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84040817299956984182010-06-09T14:06:28.595-07:002010-06-09T14:06:28.595-07:00Glenn Beck does not sit in the front row of the W....<em>Glenn Beck does not sit in the front row of the W.H. Briefing Room masquerading as a reporter, any more than Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity, Thomas did. There's a difference. They are commentators, she claimed to be & postured as a journalist.</em><br /><br />she stopped writing as a journalist some time ago and has been a commentatort, editorialist. So the same rules apply to her as they would to Beck.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-59265701555924044612010-06-09T13:42:14.761-07:002010-06-09T13:42:14.761-07:00Glenn Beck does not sit in the front row of the W....Glenn Beck does not sit in the front row of the W.H. Briefing Room masquerading as a reporter, any more than Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity, Thomas did. There's a difference. They are commentators, she claimed to be & postured as a journalist.<br /><br />She had every right to spout her hateful opinions, but she paid the price.<br /><br />SilvrladyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-39679780418989365232010-06-09T10:59:40.522-07:002010-06-09T10:59:40.522-07:00Don't read things into what I write, please.
...<i>Don't read things into what I write, please.</i><br /><br />Not reading into your statements. Sorry to appear to be doing so.<br /><br />I understand that you are not advocating for a law-only change.<br /><br />Just was emphasizing my own point. I believe the order of reform is important. <br /><br />HCraig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61248685693362200802010-06-09T10:56:04.771-07:002010-06-09T10:56:04.771-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Craig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-41168028130772639912010-06-09T10:45:02.227-07:002010-06-09T10:45:02.227-07:00I agree, it has to begin with the church. It's...I agree, it has to begin with the church. It's the church that got out of whack in the first place and it's the church that needs to repent if the nation can be saved. But I don't see it happening.<br /><br />I never said anything different, but you implied I was advocating changing laws without changing hearts and I wasn't. Don't read things into what I write, please.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-36977019469487125762010-06-09T10:08:23.336-07:002010-06-09T10:08:23.336-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-71232871716266347532010-06-09T09:55:57.802-07:002010-06-09T09:55:57.802-07:00The Savage clip I linked makes an excellent point ...The Savage clip I linked makes an excellent point beyond what brand of communism is being pushed on the American public.<br /><br /><br />He is the only commentator I've heard who has said the ruling elites in BOTH major parties are playing a "shell game" which keeps the public off-balance while they maneuver behind the scenes to alter the landscape.<br /><br />The Republicrats use hot button topics to keep citizens fighting each other.<br /><br />Liberals vs Conservatives<br />Republicans vs Democrats<br />Right vs Left<br />Religious vs Secular<br />Pro-life vs Pro "choice"<br />Environmentalists vs anyone with common sense<br /><br />It's classic divide and conquer.<br /><br />By the time we're done tearing each other up, they'll be ready to <br />slide in and neatly sweep up the pieces.<br /><br />And the thing is, even the highest echelons of evil human govt are being manipulated spiritually. <br /><br />HCraig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-89089500763839157862010-06-09T09:36:16.780-07:002010-06-09T09:36:16.780-07:00But that doesn't change the truth of my statem...<i>But that doesn't change the truth of my statement: The nation IS under judgment for legalized sin.</i> <br /><br />Faith,<br /><br />I hear you, sister. Although I still maintain that if "we the people" as individuals were not so self-centered and foolish, the passing of pro-sin laws would have never been tolerated.<br /><br />All I'm trying to say is that "fixing" our laws before there is large-scale repentance of hearts is like trying to stop a massive heart-attack with a Band-aid. Death is still inevitable.<br /><br /><br /><br />Paul said to the Corinthians "what have I to do with outsiders?"<br /><br /><br />And Peter wrote<br /><br /><i> For the time has come for the judgment to begin from the house of God. And if it first begins from us, what will be the end of those disobeying the gospel of God? <br /> And if the righteous one is scarcely saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? </i><br /><br /> The American Church needs to drop to it's knees and put God back at the center. It is possible your fear of Sharia is exactly what God will use to bring this about. <br /><br />Believers under heavy persecution don't tend to run each other to divorce court or use prayer meetings as an excuse to gossip or use their money to build bigger and more impressive church buildings or fight each other about which color to paint the sanctuary....They're clinging to Jesus with everything they've got. <br /><br />Because He's ALL they've got.<br /><br />Hopefully, we're not so far gone we can't be turned back to Him in a more gentle manner.<br /><br />HCraig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-73689439322948679032010-06-09T09:20:31.509-07:002010-06-09T09:20:31.509-07:00"It's easy enough to say if we returned t..."It's easy enough to say if we returned to some past value(s) without knowing what was different then. I'm speaking of myselft here. I try to think of the skeptic and non-Christian in these instances as well."<br /><br />We won't return, we are unable by this point, Elbro....<br />And, even most of those skeptics and non-Christians were aware back then that one doesn't say things like this in public.<br />People over 50 are stunned at so many TV ads, etc, the expliciteness, the immorality...heck, we have a president who said "Kick ASS" on film...when I have a friend who called last night saying "I'm trying to teach my grandchildren to not say things like that and there's our president..." <br />presidents NEVER SAID THAT before.<br />but, I'm getting off subject, plus I have to get the foot up again!! DARN!<br />Ya, there were better times. Did people say things as hateful as Thomas' comment, SURE they did...but the whole world didn't hear about it via our new technologies.......<br /><br />Whatever......I'd like to go back to decency, but it's a pipe dream.<br /><br />Should we be fired for saying what she said? I think that's your point...and maybe it'll have to start happening, tho I'm against it....maybe we DO have to have laws now because people don't 'censor' themselves with politeness or sympathy for others.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-88707759903325791522010-06-09T09:14:49.333-07:002010-06-09T09:14:49.333-07:00Yes I agree, it's about the money.
I just som...Yes I agree, it's about the money.<br /><br />I just sometimes wonder about us as Christians too. In my own life I've thrown a lot of Christianieze and cliches at issues like this and hadn't thought them through well enough.<br /><br />It's easy enough to say if we returned to some past value(s) without knowing what was different then. I'm speaking of myselft here. I try to think of the skeptic and non-Christian in these instances as well.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-38309991585896996632010-06-09T08:33:10.817-07:002010-06-09T08:33:10.817-07:00"I'm just trying to understand what it wa..."I'm just trying to understand what it was like when things were so different."<br /><br />better, decent, civilized....and nobody like Thomas would have ever have said anything like that in public. It's a very fine line, isn't it, Elbro...we should be able to say what we think with no retribution because of the First Amendment, but wishing Jews to go back to scenes of the holocaust should go unnoticed? We can't and mustn't punish her, but we can stand up to vile sentiment, right? And, let's face it, she lost her job. Not so much from indecency but from her sponsors and agents deciding the comment was too hot to be on her side anymore. So, it boiled down to MONEY.<br /><br />Personally, I think it's a very sad end of a woman who'd worked hard all her life, but .....well, we're going 'round and 'round in circles here.<br /><br />Do we just ignore what she said and move on? People would have stopped reading her, I'm guessing, for a while, then she'd have slowly been back in business had her sponsors/agents not dumped her, don't you think?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-705151960035192862010-06-09T06:04:38.018-07:002010-06-09T06:04:38.018-07:00How does this compare with Glenn Beck (admit it z,...<i>How does this compare with Glenn Beck (admit it z, you're a fan) pushing the works of Elizabeth Dilling to his audience.<br /><br />She was a raving anti-semite and Nazi sympathizer and Beck really had to back track on this one.</i><br /><br />Interesting article, Z<br /><br /> I don't generally line up behind Mormons, regardless of how conservative. <br /><br />Maybe Anita Dunn had it right with her glowing admiration of "philosopher" Mao? <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEIi0NiBNdY&feature=related<br /><br />(no, I'm not a Michael Savage fan--just happened across the clip)<br /><br />The number of Chinese that simply starved to death under Mao's rule rivals the combined deaths of those under Stalin and Hitler.<br /><br />At least he wasn't racially selective with his hatred.<br /><br /><br /><br />HCraig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-61248654878324784532010-06-08T22:53:38.192-07:002010-06-08T22:53:38.192-07:00I would think, given the thoroughly leftist pedigr...I would think, given the thoroughly leftist pedigree that political anti-Semitism has, that Ducky would embrace Glenn Beck if he aligned himself with the ideas espoused by the left-wing labor activist Adolf Hitler, which were (understatedly) "progressive" in their national socialist pursuit of Karl Marx's "World Without Jews" wet dream.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-14858706401282032612010-06-08T22:40:15.963-07:002010-06-08T22:40:15.963-07:00http://www.huffingtonpost.com/menachem-rosensaft/g...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/menachem-rosensaft/glenn-becks-nazi-loving-t_b_604021.html<br /><br />You've all got to read that...it's a riot. Huffington pulls out ALL the stops with every stupid leftist dream about conservatives possible...By 3/4 of the way, I was laughing out loud.<br /><br />BECK IS A NAZI and you should all be scared of him, did YOU KNOW THAT?...."his REAL problem is he's become a Conservative icon!" you can't make this stuff up!<br />I don't know why he touted this woman's book, but if anybody thinks Beck's a Nazi, you're not thinking! This was hilarious.<br />Ducky, get real. The left's been trying to kill beck for at least a year now...death threats, etc...<br /><br />He does one stupid, uninformed thing and HELL TO PAY!? BIG SURPRISE~! :-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29954336381181305582010-06-08T22:33:07.514-07:002010-06-08T22:33:07.514-07:00Ducky, of course I"m a fan, I love America, h...Ducky, of course I"m a fan, I love America, he does, too....and he stands for what I stand for. Slam dunk (oops, sorry about those Celtics)<br /><br />I don't know anything about who you're talking about ....you suggesting Beck's a NAZI LOVER, DUCKY!? you guys never quit, do you :-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-81495346357233466062010-06-08T21:10:24.732-07:002010-06-08T21:10:24.732-07:00How does this compare with Glenn Beck (admit it z,...How does this compare with Glenn Beck (admit it z, you're a fan) pushing the works of Elizabeth Dilling to his audience.<br /><br /> She was a raving anti-semite and Nazi sympathizer and Beck really had to back track on this one.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-28737267870072865632010-06-08T20:34:04.081-07:002010-06-08T20:34:04.081-07:00Good grief I am certainly NOT advocating "God...Good grief I am certainly NOT advocating "God at the point of a gun," Good GRIEF.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-7754177098211933812010-06-08T20:32:34.366-07:002010-06-08T20:32:34.366-07:00I totally agree, Heather, that we have to have rev...I totally agree, Heather, that we have to have revival or we're sunk, which is what I've been saying all along too. But that doesn't change the truth of my statement: The nation IS under judgment for legalized sin. <br /><br />There's no way we could just change the laws against the tide of opinion anyway, but it's still true that if they don't change we're sunk. And if we don't have revival and there is no such change, I think Sharia law is where God's judgment will take us in the end. Bye bye America.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-64236809838066390112010-06-08T20:06:48.229-07:002010-06-08T20:06:48.229-07:00not a good ideanot a good ideaelmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-85980024215154190142010-06-08T19:07:05.814-07:002010-06-08T19:07:05.814-07:00Sorry, Elbro, didn't get your reference to div...<em>Sorry, Elbro, didn't get your reference to divorce -- Sweden -- Norway. Please explain.</em><br /><br />bloodless secession<br /><br />I agree with you Heather, God at the point of a gun...now a good idea.elmers brotherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382038085149828957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-63068400389540359792010-06-08T18:59:42.627-07:002010-06-08T18:59:42.627-07:00That's what brings judgment against a nation, ...<i>That's what brings judgment against a nation, not individuals sinning as individuals always do, but a nation's leadership officially encouraging and approving of the sin.</i><br /><br />Faith, I would so love to agree with you on this. If it was up to me, I'd vote out abortion, gay marriage, public nudity and swearing. Abortion at least ought to be outlawed as murder has always been illegal in our country.<br /><br /> But as much as I hate to admit it, enacting laws which enforce dress codes and erect speech fences would eventually resemble Ducky's authoritarian force-everybody-to-share against their will form of govt. (He's really a closet Calvinist, as is evidenced by his unwitting acknowledgment of man's naturally depraved condition) <br /><br />The Temperance Movement didn't fare so well, if I recall. It seems immoral activity actually increased above and beyond personal overindulgence in alcoholic beverages.<br /><br />I think our best course of action for now is found in 2 Chronicles 7<br /><br /><i> If I shut up the heavens, and there is no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send a plague among My people; <br /> if My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. </i><br /><br />If there's even a chance of visible change in our country, it needs to begin with God's people humbling ourselves first and repenting of our own idolatries. <br /><br />HCraig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-64276259421532744842010-06-08T18:33:13.779-07:002010-06-08T18:33:13.779-07:00Sorry, Elbro, didn't get your reference to div...Sorry, Elbro, didn't get your reference to divorce -- Sweden -- Norway. Please explain.Faith https://www.blogger.com/profile/00064746447414555577noreply@blogger.com