tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post7758532548880714813..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Another Health Care speech and my take.........Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-87948931713420284792009-09-10T16:08:57.798-07:002009-09-10T16:08:57.798-07:00Obama was strident, dictatorial and is a liar.
He...Obama was strident, dictatorial and is a liar.<br /><br />He's going to "call people out" who "misrepresent the healthcare bill". <br /><br />Exactly what bill would that be? The one that's written, or the one the White House is going to write. Does anyone know what he's arguing about? He doesn't. <br /><br />He's demonized every industry and profession to lure people into this class warfare agenda of his. <br /><br />He's demonized the people who have demonstrated and spoken against the healthcare bill. His talking heads calling us "mobsters", political terrorists", etc, etc. <br /><br />One congressman calls him "liar" and it's armageddon!! Give me a break.<br /><br />Obama can't take it. He's a thinskinned, arrogant, tin horn dictator. <br /><br />Bush could take it, and did. So much so I found myself wishing just once, that he'd let 'em have it. Now, if he'd done that, all hell would have broken loose.<br /><br />It might have been worth it.<br /><br />Conservatives are expected to be civil. We're not supposed to demonstrate, or make noise. We're supposed to just take it like we have for too many years.<br /><br />Well, if you've ever seen a mother bear protect her cubs, that's me. I'm a civil person. But, if you are determined to rob my children of their freedom, their future, I'm that mother bear, and civility be damned. <br /><br />There are alot of mother and father bears out there that know as I do, what we're up against. If the other side want's civility, call off your thuggers, and listen. <br /><br />We're not shutting up and we're not going away, and keep your hands off our cubs! <br /><br />PrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-51198126663504035382009-09-10T14:41:55.077-07:002009-09-10T14:41:55.077-07:00This article may be a little loopy, but there are ...<a href="http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/09/10/a-defense-of-joe-wilson-the-democractic-right-to-dissent.aspx?GT1=43002" rel="nofollow">This article</a> may be a little loopy, but there are some good points (a Brit's perspective).<br /><br />...and <a href="http://www.joewilsonforcongress.com.php5-2.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/home/2009/09/stand-with-me-against-liberal-attacks/" rel="nofollow">Joe Wilson speaks.</a>RightKlikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04475874038428195332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-53320182240144359912009-09-10T14:40:38.899-07:002009-09-10T14:40:38.899-07:00Not responding to OR challenging Obama's prova...Not responding to OR challenging Obama's provacative and clearly partisan speech would have been far worse than what Wilson did. The RNC should have walked out at the utterance of the very first lie. That they didn't brought shame on the entire corrupt institution.<br /><br />Yes, Z, we agree to disagree.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-36082535408581491072009-09-10T14:12:30.127-07:002009-09-10T14:12:30.127-07:00"Now people are going to focus on that and cr..."Now people are going to focus on that and create a non issue to hide the rest of Obama's crap."<br /><br />Finally.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-4788682814442170862009-09-10T14:04:00.766-07:002009-09-10T14:04:00.766-07:00There's worse than what Wilson did.
Now peopl...There's worse than what Wilson did. <br />Now people are going to focus on that and create a non issue to hide the rest of Obama's crap. That's the only mistake Wilson did. Why would a representative of the people be supposed to have respect when the President and his goons doesn't have respect for the people? Do they apologize when they call us names? It takes courage to do what Wilson did. He'll get my money if he raises funds.FrogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-78647334487630333932009-09-10T13:53:25.795-07:002009-09-10T13:53:25.795-07:00While I disagree with the way Joe Wilson handled h...While I disagree with the way Joe Wilson handled himself, but adamantly agree with his sentiment. I have to give him some kudos for actually feeling so strongly about the healthcare issue. He was certainly more passionate about his ideas on the issue than our dear President is. But, regardless of who that President is -- is not acceptable. <br />As for the speech, I did not watch it, because I knew in advance that I wouldn't believe anything that Obama would say. .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-80837133152606665112009-09-10T13:01:30.187-07:002009-09-10T13:01:30.187-07:00HAM....the WH shuts down the slightest talk about ...HAM....the WH shuts down the slightest talk about citizenship..there's no hope; they don't care.<br /><br />Ducky;<br />"Anyway, illegals can walk into emergency rooms today. Hard to see what's being proposed that will change that situation."<br /><br />Republicans were hoping to fix things, not allow them to stay "status quo" as THE ONE keeps warning against. And by the way, WHO CARES if Republican presidents also were for illegals coming in illegally? It's WRONG no matter who does it.<br />As for amnesty, things were VERY VERY different in R. Reagan's day. context.<br /><br />"This sounds like just some silly charade to allow the far right to blow off steam rather than debate the issue."<br /><br />No, not a silly charade..>Conservatives are really concerned about this country. You can call it silly, we can't. <br />And, please....you've rarely stayed on a topic once here.<br />And, of course, the DEBATES on most issues is shut down by Obama; the idea of bipartisanship died when he took office.<br />Bush tried to reach across the aisle and lost fingers.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-76253880144408326222009-09-10T12:19:19.604-07:002009-09-10T12:19:19.604-07:00What a country! Obama is already letting 3.6 milli...What a country! Obama is already letting 3.6 million illegal aliens in the country every year and he plans to make us pay for their health care<br /><br />------------------------<br /><br /> I don't know, Hoosier. I'd say our immigration issues go back a little further than Obama. Maybe even back to that fraud St. Ronnie Raygun who said amnesty would fix everything. Remember that?<br /><br /> Anyway, illegals can walk into emergency rooms today. Hard to see what's being proposed that will change that situation.<br /><br /> This sounds like just some silly charade to allow the far right to blow off steam rather than debate the issue.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-56893148533274440192009-09-10T11:44:43.128-07:002009-09-10T11:44:43.128-07:00From AmeriPAC:
Obama Lies And Gives Illegals Heal...From AmeriPAC:<br /><br />Obama Lies And Gives Illegals HealthCare<br />Concerned American to Concerned American:<br /><br />Last night an angry Obama lied to the nation about extending his NO Enforcement - Open Border Amnesty Policy to ObamaCare. He said his plan would not apply to illegals and Congressman Joe Wilson called him on his lie. Just cross the border and enter a government clinic and you can get free health care paid for by U.S. taxpayers. Don’t worry your illegal status will not be questioned <b>ObamaCare has no mandatory proof of U.S. citizenship</b>. What a country! Obama is already letting 3.6 million illegal aliens in the country every year and he plans to make us pay for their health care<br /><br />I really loved it when he assured us that he would make sure we were never denied services. Yeah, like in 10 years when I'm denied treatment for something what do I do... use the old "I'm telling Obama on you"????? That is giving his word on something he can't do!!! He's just a liar and scam artist.HoosierArmyMomhttp://hoosierarmymom.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-81055661197853674292009-09-10T11:39:24.147-07:002009-09-10T11:39:24.147-07:00RK..finally.. a little respect at my site (Rodney ...RK..finally.. a little respect at my site (Rodney Dangerfield would be SO PROUD :0-)<br /><br />I respect everyone's viewpoints I just get so frustrated when I feel so much more importance in what the msm says to SO many prospective voters...NOT FOR OUR purposes but FOR PURPOSES OF AMERICANS HEARING THE TRUTH, not getting news so tweaked and blown out of proportion ON OUR ACCOUNT! That's all.<br />You said :Z, I sincerely hope conservatives don't spend much time arguing among themselves about this. We have a lot of work to do and we agree 99% of the time. Let's defeat ObamaCare.<br /><br />Yes, absolutely.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-47060198433395545872009-09-10T11:36:21.222-07:002009-09-10T11:36:21.222-07:00I'm starting to appreciate your perspective on...I'm starting to appreciate your perspective on this, but I don't think one outburst from an obscure Congressman is going to change the course of this hostile takeover of 1/6 of the U.S. economy. Other stories will rise to the surface, and this episode will soon be forgotten.<br /><br />Honestly I don't know how much longer conservatives are supposed to politely sit on their hands while Obama and the leftist Democrats drive this country over a cliff. And I don't understand why the U.S. Congress is supposed to be so much more polite and proper than the British parliament.<br /><br />Z, I sincerely hope conservatives don't spend much time arguing among themselves about this. We have a lot of work to do and we agree 99% of the time. Let's defeat ObamaCare.RightKlikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04475874038428195332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-72333941980170150222009-09-10T11:07:58.328-07:002009-09-10T11:07:58.328-07:00Rep. Wilson's outburst was more akin to what I...Rep. Wilson's outburst was more akin to what I am feeling than the drivel that the MSM mavens are parroting. <br /><br />Honestly, the few times I have listened to BO's lies, I have yelled out worse words than, "You lie!"cubehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788126579896276199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-55036163498416758492009-09-10T11:03:55.328-07:002009-09-10T11:03:55.328-07:00FrogBurger......let's just agree to disagree :...FrogBurger......let's just agree to disagree :-)<br />Am I HAPPY he did it, absolutely not, and I don't think there's anyone who hates this health care plan MORE than I do.<br /><br />I can see that I still care way more about the media perception/dishonesty and mischaracterizations way more than most conservatives for what it does to any electorate toying with waking up and voting Republican (and I know a LOT of people today who are FED UP with Obama who'd voted for him)...<br />I'll always believe we need to not throw red meat to the libs and I'll never stop believing that, I suppose.<br /><br />Had we an honest media, Americans on the fence would be hearing EVERYTHING, from both sides, every error, every GOTCHA, every slip and they could decide for themselves....but Americans who aren't getting the truth from the conservative media aren't hearing Dems do anything wrong and the Right's outbursts, etc., are magnified and demonized. That's bad for America....God doesn't want that.<br /><br />zZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-69381436076845045312009-09-10T10:57:05.038-07:002009-09-10T10:57:05.038-07:00Wilson should have not apologized.
"Rebellio...Wilson should have not apologized. <br />"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.", Benjamin FranklinFrogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-53139312879966185082009-09-10T10:17:05.889-07:002009-09-10T10:17:05.889-07:00by the way, HEAR ALL THAT 'THIS COSTS MORE THA...by the way, HEAR ALL THAT 'THIS COSTS MORE THAN THE WARS' STUFF? <br />Do our KIDS HEAR THAT?<br />Does he CARE that half of America honored that war?<br /><br />THIS IS WAR HERE, FOLKS...HERE in America..OBAMA'S WAR dividing America due to HIS WISHES is terrible.<br /><br />Oh, now I hear Biden says HE is SO EMBARRASSED by Wilson's outburst. Now Wilson's released a LETTER of apology.<br />OH, we look GREAT, independents and thinking Democrats are SO being bombarded by the msm this morning...not that Obama's speech STILL isn't clear, but that A REPUBLICAN SAID "YOU LIE" <br /><br /><br />dayumZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-31265194501193968352009-09-10T10:05:58.788-07:002009-09-10T10:05:58.788-07:00Elbro...worse than that...he's still condemnin...Elbro...worse than that...he's still condemning, condemning , condemning..it's all about how EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T SEE WHY WE NEED THIS IS STUPID..ANYBODY WHO SEES CANADA AND ENGLAND'S PROBLEMS IS STUPID..ETC ETC<br />The more I hear this morning, the more I hate this guy's demeanor and LIES.<br /><br />And I STILL think Wilson got us NOWHERE by blurting that out.<br />Right or Wrong, he did political damage; we underestimate the msm SO badly sometimes it's astonishing. OH, are they capitalizing on it, OH, did this smoke screen cover so much of what people SHOULD be talking about this morning in O's speech.<br /><br />Please, do I think WIlson's RIGHT? OF COURSE!<br />BIG difference to DO I THINK A REPUBLICAN NEEDED TO BLURT 'YOU LIE' TO A PRESIDENT IN A SPEECH ON TV TO THE CONGRESS.<br /><br />FJ...I missed a point of the speech? My whole post is how nasty this man is and how he STILL lies and it's obvious he's ramming this down our throats .... NO bi partisanship, that's why I applauded the Republicans holding up THEIR IDEAS in their hands when Obama again suggested we had no ideas...what a damned lie THAT IS.<br /><br />Wilson's instincts weren't to apologize..the Republicans told him he'd better...........I hate that SO SO MUCH, but it gave Obama SUCH credence by that one darned YOU LIE...obama has a 'get out of jail free' card and it put the health care plan in a higher standing because Wilson appeared to emphasize what Obama and Pelosi have been saying , that the Reps are OBSTRUCTING. I'm so sad this happened.<br />We had a great chance at the truth getting out that Obama STILL wasn't clear, and he STILL can't substantiate most of the claims he made, or won't (See my point about illegals)<br /><br />Ducky...just stop. Legal American Christians, born here, paying tax dollars here, have at least as much a right to keep our children safe, too. Hospitals are closing due to illegals, 4 good/big hospitals in LA alone. We owe OUR CHILDREN better than that. OUR children should count, too.Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-15941368611911852542009-09-10T10:01:10.441-07:002009-09-10T10:01:10.441-07:00And Wilson was right. He lies through his teeth as...And Wilson was right. He lies through his teeth as much as bush lied about WMD.<br /><br />37 acts/bills were written by the Republican Study Committee in 2009. <br /><br />He lies about the fact that we won't have to pay for it. Something that is not sustainable will have to be paid for.<br /><br />So yes he is a liar, maybe the biggest one I've seen in politics.<br /><br />And I applaud Wilson. Rebellion is good in the face of tyranny.FrogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-58254816167144428532009-09-10T10:00:28.502-07:002009-09-10T10:00:28.502-07:00Ducky, have you ever had a cogent thought in your ...Ducky, have you ever had a cogent thought in your entire life?<br /><br />Just because Joe Wilson doesn't want to pay for illegals you drop your drive-by drivel on this site about him. <br /><br />Accusations require proof you leftist boob. Otherwise they're just more spittle flying in the wind. And God knows we've had enough of that from you over the last year.<br /><br />(damned typos)Greywolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381047844269105368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29432536974896795442009-09-10T09:59:13.118-07:002009-09-10T09:59:13.118-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Greywolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381047844269105368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-28135882338352980722009-09-10T09:59:06.362-07:002009-09-10T09:59:06.362-07:00Puky Ducky why are insurance companies cutting dea...Puky Ducky why are insurance companies cutting deal with the administration?FrogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-27019058285282103662009-09-10T09:52:40.309-07:002009-09-10T09:52:40.309-07:00Looks like we are all on the same page this mornin...Looks like we are all on the same page this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-76131684490167047702009-09-10T09:51:24.165-07:002009-09-10T09:51:24.165-07:00Wilson: "You Lie!"
America’s Health...Wilson: "You Lie!"<br /><br /> America’s Health Insurers: "You're Hired!"<br /><br />If nothing else,Wilson must be commended on the sheer economy of his ratio of words-to-future-financial-benefit.<br /><br />It makes "This is a stick up!" sound verbose.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-9387376587343637402009-09-10T09:48:49.259-07:002009-09-10T09:48:49.259-07:00Ducky, you quoting Christ is laughable. Socialist...Ducky, you quoting Christ is laughable. Socialists using a religious quote to try to engender shame in Conservatives is the most hypocritical thing I have ever heard of. <br /><br />You don't mind US being religious as long as it is in support of your godless goals. Suuuurree.. We'll get right on that. <br /><br />First and foremost, we have to secure OUR nation. Let the great unwashed masses south of the border fix their own problems and STAY HOME! Conservatives give more of themselves and their fortunes to charity than any of your Leftist buddies ever have. Our tax payers should only pay for the cost of a plane ticket back to where ever these leaches come from. Then put up a big concrete fense with gun mounts at regular intervals.<br /><br />They want in? There's the door. Use it, instead of coming in a window. And I wouldn't allow ONE MORE MEXICAN IMMIGRANT UNTIL THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT STOPS TEACHING ITS STUDENTS THAT SOUTHWESTERN U.S. BELONGS TO MEXICO.Greywolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381047844269105368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74099156205765292072009-09-10T09:42:55.679-07:002009-09-10T09:42:55.679-07:00...and ducky, Mr. Obama says that he's not goi......and ducky, Mr. Obama says that he's not going to render ANY medical assistance to illegals in this country and that it's a LIE to imply anything different.<br /><br />Americans have been defacto treating them gratis forever. If you've a complaint, perhaps you should take it up with Mr. Obama and his party, as HE is the one who is threatening to change the system and cut off their medical treatments, NOT us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-72217220779084903462009-09-10T09:41:53.081-07:002009-09-10T09:41:53.081-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Greywolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381047844269105368noreply@blogger.com