tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post8008620721671227318..comments2023-11-02T03:10:39.674-07:00Comments on GeeeeeZ!: Is it Poll Dancin' ......or is Obama really rising in popularity?Zhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-63661326187773596142009-10-08T17:17:03.987-07:002009-10-08T17:17:03.987-07:00It was Regan's tax cuts that jump started the ...It was Regan's tax cuts that jump started the enconomy in the 80's Duckling. Yes he did raise the deficits, something he was shrinking when he left office. Of course the dems controlled congress so they get the blame as well. And in the senate for the first few years of his (Bush) administration the Democrats had a majority in the Senate which would explain why they could not get the bill out of committee. And even if they could have gotten out of committee it would have been a moot point since the democrats would have filibustered the bill until it died. Often the threat of a filibuster is enough to kill a bill. <br /><br />And the reason that when Fannie and Freddie were able to implode the market by themselves is that they had the lion's share of the mortgages. <br /><br />And Duckling you need to check your math. Between 1998 and 2008 McCain didn't even rank in the top 25. In fact 7 of the top 10 were democrats and the highest the GOP could do is #6.The Vegas Art Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09800692010017718392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-24895200483221943552009-10-08T12:40:42.368-07:002009-10-08T12:40:42.368-07:00Ducky,
Know what, I've got the right figured ...Ducky,<br /><br /><i>Know what, I've got the right figured out. They like to whine. They don't care about policy, they just want to whine.</i><br /><br />The left's chance to shine, and you're on defense. <br /><br />Sit down and watch how the pros destroy presidents, chump changer.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-79370521978819171452009-10-08T12:28:00.215-07:002009-10-08T12:28:00.215-07:00"Now was it Volckers monetary policy or Reaga..."Now was it Volckers monetary policy or Reagan's deficit spending? And which might have been responsible for the serious recession in Raygun's second term?"<br /><br />Its questions like that which makes being an American in this day and age so frustrating. Try learning how your economy actually works. You are absolutely clueless if you think that a recession can happen at such break-neck speed. The economy doesn't shift gears that fast. If it did, we wouldn't be told by the new administration that the stimulus will take years to see an effect. A president doesn't just right a bill and see results in six months. You can keep throwing Volcker's name out there until you're blue in the face, the point is still the same. Spending money we didn't have is what led us here. Spending even more money we don't have won't get us out.highboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05832470310522193784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-22827848198181133222009-10-08T11:48:11.116-07:002009-10-08T11:48:11.116-07:00highball, again, the Carter appointee Paul Volcker...highball, again, the Carter appointee Paul Volcker.<br /><br /> Any discussion of the period economics which does not include Paul Volcker is foolish.<br /><br /> Now was it Volckers monetary policy or Reagan's deficit spending? And which might have been responsible for the serious recession in Raygun's second term?Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-72104647388051639162009-10-08T09:40:21.461-07:002009-10-08T09:40:21.461-07:00To answer your question, it was Reagan. You can ke...To answer your question, it was Reagan. You can keep ignoring the debacles of the Carter administration with his dem controlled congress all you want, but history proves you wrong. Its not complicated at all, but I understand liberals have to do mental gymnastics for their ideals to make any sense. The fact that you gloss over the blatant hypocrisy (and lie) of the democratic party in blaming the Republicans for deregulation that they themselves voted for just shows you're not interested in truth at all. Face it: your boys got what they wanted, and dems are in control. Yet for all their power they still can't pass anything, public support for all of their policies is pretty much nil, and it took them less than a year to lose the American people.highboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05832470310522193784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-56378258878318953722009-10-08T08:23:08.567-07:002009-10-08T08:23:08.567-07:00highball, did Reagan get the jobs back or did the ...highball, did Reagan get the jobs back or did the action of Carter appointee Paul Volcker at the Fed get them back?<br /><br /> Reagan didn't do much but run up huge deficits, something the far right is complaining about right now.<br /><br /> Anyway, it's a complicated problem. I say Volcker was the catalyst but I'm sure we'll get a level headed non doctrinaire response.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-4506289810175700582009-10-08T08:19:57.159-07:002009-10-08T08:19:57.159-07:00Yes highball, McCain did get up and showboat on th...Yes highball, McCain did get up and showboat on the Senate floor AFTER the oversight report was released on the accounting problems at Fannie. He initiated nothing.<br /><br /> That's all he did and that's why we should all be glad that he has been consigned to a life of listening to that shrew he's married to complain that she could have been first lady.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-44697184342888210732009-10-08T07:54:28.692-07:002009-10-08T07:54:28.692-07:00Of course its worth noting that while Biden and Ob...Of course its worth noting that while Biden and Obama constantly ridiculed McCain during the campaign for always voting for bank deregulation, the voting record has McCain recorded as not voting one way or the other at all, while Biden himself voted along with every other democrat FOR deregulation, a bill that Clinton signed. But now that deregulation, according to liberal turds, is one of the root causes for our economic collapse, and Bush and the Republicans are to blame. Fortunately for the dems, most Americans are too lazy and uneducated to actually look up those voting records. But its hilarious to listen to ducky and the rest try to nuance the problem as if the constant spending of the U.S. government since the Carter administration is not to blame for our economic mess. Even more hilarious is the blame they give Reagan even though its an historical, documented fact, that the last time our unemployment was this low he got jobs back at a record rate. But don't let facts get in the way. Lets just keep pointing at our european brethren as role models. Role models with some of the worst healthcare imaginable and the global significance of a soap dish, but role models nonetheless.highboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05832470310522193784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-27695534933020887822009-10-08T07:05:50.712-07:002009-10-08T07:05:50.712-07:00I'd also like to ask my Republican brethren wh...I'd also like to ask my Republican brethren why they feel a bill to manage the accounting manipulation at Fannie which was manipulating the stock price and executive bonuses would have resolved anything.<br /><br /> Why target Fannie alone for shenanigans with stock options and bonuses? You are pretty vocal about avoiding regulation in other cases.<br /><br /> Why would this have saved the institutions? The collapse was caused by the collapse in housing prices, not the bonus and stock behavior.<br /><br /> Let me know how we could have saved a financial system built on instruments that depended on a perpetual rise in real estate prices.<br /><br /> Folks like Vegas Art Guy are asking me to stay on topic. I am very much on topic and let's just say it, I await your answer and sir, I don't think you've got a fastball.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-78068088042694702232009-10-08T06:06:27.283-07:002009-10-08T06:06:27.283-07:00I'd also point out, Vegas Art Guy that the hor...I'd also point out, Vegas Art Guy that the horse was way out of the barn when 180 was proposed.<br /><br /> Folks had all been taking big wads of cash (and McCAIN was way up the list, that mentally ill hypocrite) so the fix was pretty much in.<br /><br /> An organization with as much dough as Fannie controlled can play both sides of the street and avoid any meaningful changes.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-40392690774228015362009-10-08T06:01:28.956-07:002009-10-08T06:01:28.956-07:00Vegas Art Guy, we hear a lot about Democrats block...Vegas Art Guy, we hear a lot about Democrats blocking the Fannie Mae bill but it died in a REPUBLICAN controlled committee.<br /><br /> Now I know that Chris Dodd and Barney Frank were the demons in both branches that you think stopped all legislation but fact is that a Republican controlled committee blocked the bill.<br /><br /> Republicans were playing power politics at the time so I suspect the bill wasn't what they wanted since very little of their program was ever blocked.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-58408583543105056012009-10-07T20:16:49.431-07:002009-10-07T20:16:49.431-07:00Otalp....could be!Otalp....could be!Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74338010177918651312009-10-07T18:38:35.950-07:002009-10-07T18:38:35.950-07:00This blog should be called Canardo v. Sanity.
Ota...This blog should be called <a rel="nofollow"><b>Canardo v. Sanity.</b></a><br /><br />OtalpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-66235154839791919692009-10-07T18:38:26.281-07:002009-10-07T18:38:26.281-07:00"please explain (in simple terms) why the Dem...<i>"please explain (in simple terms) why the Democrats in the Senate would not allow Bush to reform Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae."</i><br /><br /><br /><br />Da love of dat sweet, old time slave vote? Keeping dem down and stupid on dat plantation? Da promise of dem reparations? Dere promise to end poverty? Amazingly...there's still poverty...dems haven't yet...yet ended it...nor has welfare...but dey keep on a votin' for dem...dems? Maybe if dey was a bit brighter...dey'd be smaking dem dems upside da head wit dem boards?<br /><br /><br />Stupid is as stupid does. Too bad dey have da IQ of an eggplant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-74719010504575650502009-10-07T17:38:32.354-07:002009-10-07T17:38:32.354-07:00Duckling, since you are so much smarter than the r...Duckling, since you are so much smarter than the rest of us, please explain (in simple terms) why the Democrats in the Senate would not allow Bush to reform Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and then why the one time they were able to even get it out of committee, the Democratic party threatened a Filibuster (the GOP did not have 60 votes) to stop it from going through. Again, use short simple words for your explanation of why the Democrats thought it was OK to allow Freddie and Fannie to do as they did. <br /><br />And try to stick to the topic this time.The Vegas Art Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09800692010017718392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-29354964767690798232009-10-07T17:29:35.987-07:002009-10-07T17:29:35.987-07:00You ALL make far too much sense.
Don't baffle ...You ALL make far too much sense.<br />Don't baffle Ducky with facts........:-)Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-71455420268180429332009-10-07T16:38:04.468-07:002009-10-07T16:38:04.468-07:00These are the numbers that matter:
Americans &qu...These are the numbers that matter:<br /><br /><br /><i>Americans "approval" ( why do they always use approval when it's REALLY the disapproval ) of the job Congress is doing is at 21% this month, down significantly from last month’s 31% and from the recent high of 39% in March.<br />Approval of Congress today is significantly below the average 36% rating found across the past two decades.<br /></i><br /><br /><br />Translated...79% of Americans...DISAPPROVE of our government. How can a government, this disliked, even exist in this country?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-48864910320902805632009-10-07T16:07:34.660-07:002009-10-07T16:07:34.660-07:00"Corporate earnings are on track to drop more..."Corporate earnings are on track to drop more than they did last year, a 20% drop last year and a 24.8% drop this year."<br /><br />Ducky, yes the dollar's value is dropping like a rock!<br /><br />There are reports that France Russia, Saudi Arabia, and others want to dump the dollar, and use a "basket" of other currencies as the world currencies. They deny this, but where there's smoke there's fire.<br /><br />This would be devastating. <br /><br />Now, you can bait and switch by bringing up President Reagan, but you know and we know, we now have the fourth President since Ronald Reagan. Get a grip, genius.<br /><br />This president has tried to sell the idea that you can spend your way into properity. You can't!<br /><br />Now Ducky, you explain to me how printing worthless paper called dollars, ameliorates the problem.<br /><br />You explain how passing trillion dollar entitlement programs when we have no money, and existing programs are trillions in the red, are sustainable.<br /><br />You explain how raising taxes on businesses and corporations, will provide jobs and keep inflation from rising.<br /><br />You explain how an added VAT tax helps the economy, and for that matter, helps the poor.<br /><br />The Bush tax cuts are due to expire in January. The middle class is poised to get hit and get hit hard, and the engine of productivity is under assault by our own government.<br /><br />And you want to blame President Reagan? What a fool you are. I would think as a good Marxist, you'd be happy. <br /><br />All that is coming down on us, is being done intentionally. If it isn't intentional that would mean not one person in a leadership position, has the brains God gave a gnat.<br /><br />We will lose our rights as Americans as the government promises and grabs more and more control, with fines and punishment for those who won't cooperate.<br /><br />I could go on and on but you get the picture. You see Ducky, socialism, marxism, fascism, take your pick, require the same oppressive heavy hand of the government no matter where it is implemented. Even here.<br /><br />So, how's that far left extremist utopia working out for ya, huh? <br /><br />PrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-84279701946197758492009-10-07T13:55:46.277-07:002009-10-07T13:55:46.277-07:00"The international banking system went on a f..."The international banking system went on a feeding frenzy that had NOTHING to do with underlying material assets. It had nothing to do with CRA."<br /><br />Again, didn't say that. But things are interconnected. Banks loan to themselves and buy assets and securities that are global. <br /><br />So the CRA may not impact banks directly in Ireland but what affects banks and other financial institutions in the US affect banks worldwide.<br /><br />Again, your lefty brain is trying to make me oversimplify things when that's not my intent.FrogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-91744689418600605832009-10-07T13:53:26.815-07:002009-10-07T13:53:26.815-07:00'And your attempts to portray Clinton as anyth...'And your attempts to portray Clinton as anything but a deregulation fan and an economic conservative are not going to get far."<br /><br />Where did you read this? Did I say this.<br /><br />Maybe you should go back to school just to read properly. That's maybe why you're on the left. You can't even read correctly.frogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-23806274322453365842009-10-07T13:47:55.161-07:002009-10-07T13:47:55.161-07:00Ducky - you said
"Would one of the right win...Ducky - you said<br /><br />"Would one of the right wing lords of finance here explain to me why most of the banks of Europe especially in Britain, Germany, Spain and Ireland were poisoning their banking system if they knew the mortgage paper they were buying from the American investment banks was based on forced loans to "people who couldn't pay"?"<br /><br />It's called gambling. That's all Wall Street and much of the major financial world is. There is no security. <br /><br />Want security? Buy gold. $350 in 2004 would have you at almost $1050 today. And it's only going up as long as these buffoons in Washington keep spending money we don't have.Solomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12934220245789538762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-34243758676286669032009-10-07T13:44:03.703-07:002009-10-07T13:44:03.703-07:00I'm at work so I gotta be quick...
Community ...I'm at work so I gotta be quick...<br /><br />Community Reinvestment act forced banks BY LAW to write bad mortgages. If not for those bad mortgages, there would have been nothing to collapse on Wall Street, because all dealings would have been secure. Therefore, it was EXACLTY the CRA (along with irresponsible personal finance management on the part of many Americans in a greedy 'bling' driven society) that caused the majority of the economic crisis we're in today. Thank you, Jimmah Cattah and Hollywood / TV media. <br /><br />The Stimulus was not for Wall Street, it was for Obama / Pelosi payback. Most of it has gone to liberal districts for pet projects of major donors, and the "shovel ready" part was a tunnel under a highway for some turtles. <br /><br />It was the TARP, initiated by Bush but voted up by Obama that was for Wall Street. Obama's biggest campaign donors? #2 Goldman Sachs , #4 Microsoft Corp, #5 Google Inc, #6 Citigroup Inc, #7 JPMorgan Chase & Co, the list goes on. <br /><br />http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638 has more on his contributors. <br /><br />Not even half the stimulus has been spent yet. How can you claim it wasn't big enough when it's not even all spent yet? <br /><br />Ducky, you're so far off on your FACTS, aside from the fact that your ideas stink of failed economic policy. <br /><br />Just like FDR didn't bring us out of the Great Depression (private industry building for wartime need did that) Obama will never spend us out of this recession.Solomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12934220245789538762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-58396632922264291952009-10-07T13:31:04.578-07:002009-10-07T13:31:04.578-07:00"And I bet the CRA was forcing the banks in I..."And I bet the CRA was forcing the banks in Ireland and Spain and other countries that went under to write bad paper too, right?"<br /><br />Everything's interconnected so you can't separate countries in what's called globalization.<br /><br />-----------------------<br /><br /> I see, so the failure of banks like Royal Bank of Scotland and the absolute cratering of the Irish housing market were all due to Clinton forcing banks in America to loan to minorities ("people who couldn't repay"). Fascinating.<br /><br /> And your attempts to portray Clinton as anything but a deregulation fan and an economic conservative are not going to get far.<br /><br /> The international banking system went on a feeding frenzy that had NOTHING to do with underlying material assets. It had nothing to do with CRA.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-89578924683744741082009-10-07T12:48:05.341-07:002009-10-07T12:48:05.341-07:00Moronic Ducky, it's one problem I mentioned.
...Moronic Ducky, it's one problem I mentioned.<br /><br />I could add interest rate policies under Clinton with Greenspan.<br /><br />I also mentioned the foolish behavior of most Americans.<br /><br />"And I bet the CRA was forcing the banks in Ireland and Spain and other countries that went under to write bad paper too, right?"<br /><br />Everything's interconnected so you can't separate countries in what's called globalization.<br /><br />Collapse of CA? Leftist policies, welfare, high taxes.<br /><br />Everything you stand for as led to high unemployment and lower prosperity around the world.<br /><br />You should buy more than a vowel, but a clean new brain that looks at stats and doesn't repeat what his goons around him tell him to say.<br /><br />I'm going to admit something here - I started as a lefty in France and I saw the numbers and tried to understand why after years of brainwashing. <br /><br />Maybe you should do the same.frogBurgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5516627478339613810.post-27675131355978460822009-10-07T12:42:37.706-07:002009-10-07T12:42:37.706-07:00Would one of the right wing lords of finance here ...Would one of the right wing lords of finance here explain to me why most of the banks of Europe especially in Britain, Germany, Spain and Ireland were poisoning their banking system if they knew the mortgage paper they were buying from the American investment banks was based on forced loans to "people who couldn't pay"?<br /><br /> Those folks aren't dummies. Deutsche Bank and Royal Bank of Scotland and those French banks that went teats up, they would have known. Couldn't be that they were just pocketing too much cash and waiting for the suckers (I.E. the average person) to foot the bill.<br /><br /> As I say, I'd like to carry on a conversation. I'm afraid it's going to force you to admit to serious flaws in your view of finance and economics but come on, Alan Greenspan was willing to admit he was wrong, why not you good folk?Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.com