Z UPDATE: If the way this Gold Medal was covered isn't proof of Mr. Z's claims of the media counting more than our athletes, I don't know what is.
Mr. Z had to write and get the Olympics off his chest, which, in itself deserves a medal just from the sheer 'weight' of it!:
I am a huge sports fan, I was an excellent all-round athlete when I was young, so why would I not watch the Olympics? My wife is really unhappy I’m not going to be watching this year so I thought I’d explain:
- The Olympic ideal is dead. When it was pure sports, it was still fun. The “spectacle” part is more important than the honest athletic competition and it seems suddenly to be more important to participate than to win. Today, it is all about money. No athletic or moral principles. The athletes used to be “amateurs” – today they are mostly professionals, at least in those categories which attract most spectators. For me, an athlete who is barely surviving with very little financial help to compete in a “niche” sport does more to represent the Olympic idea than a Dirk Nowitzki who probably earns $15+ annually with the Dallas Mavericks (and I have nothing against Nowitzki nor professional basketball which I actually barely miss watching a game of “Go Lakers!”, but they should not participate in the Olympics).
- The International Olympic Committee (IOC) is as worthless as the U.N. because it has grown into a hugely corrupt organization which does not care about the athletes but only about money. I thought that that would be changed when Rogge came into power, but it hasn’t. The way they gave into the Chinese was astonishing, as if it’s honest and forthcoming to say the internet will be made available to the journalists “to the extent possible”. That’s not honest, it’s revealing, and they got a free pass!? Also, the games should not have been given to Beijing because it was foreseeable that the Chinese didn’t change their stand on human rights.
- The world witnessed what happened in the latest Tibet incident how China hasn’t changed. Many “world” politicians condemned the actions, most of them said that they would, as a consequence, not participate in the opening ceremony – and you know what happened. Their egos got in the way of keeping that promise, so all these would-be-Napoleons showed up, including Bush, Sarkozy, and Putin (I am actually not surprised about him, since Russia is not much better than China relative to human rights). Germany’s Angela Merkel held her ground and did not go…she deserves respect for that.
- If all of that is not enough – NBC has bought the rights for TV. Now they do what the Left does best, they decide for us what we are supposed to see. Meaning, the choice is very limited, interrupted every 3 minutes by commercials, showing only the major sports, and of those, only the first two or three best in the competition (what happened to Olympic ideals?). To top it off, they have mostly commentators who don’t know what they are talking about. Given the 15 hour time difference to Beijing, I suppose they are mostly not showing the competition live, but canned, which provides an excellent opportunity to make enough time available for the insufferable ads. I can’t watch that, it absolutely drives me nuts!
- And then there is DOPING. Because it is all about money, and despite the Olympic ideal it has become all about winning, almost all athletes in the major sports are doping to reach their goals. Some of the athletes are caught, most are not. That has to do with statistics (how do you control 10,000+ athletes on a constant basis?), but also with improved doping methods which are almost non detectable. The newest hit is stem cell doping, very effective, and the chance of detection is almost zero. Two facts among others stick out…. the track and field team of Russia has already been decimated by the officials having found that eleven athletes were doping, and undercover actions in China have proven how easy it is to get doping in China. There are countries which are relatively more honest, like Germany (controls are far more stringent there than anywhere else, from what I have heard), but other countries are really bad about it – some of them, because they feel it is a “trivial offense” (like Italy or Spain – see the Tour de France), others because they MUST win, such as Russia, China, and, yes, the United States (dare I mention Marion Jones and her ex-husband, Hunter, Floyd Landis, Major League Baseball, etc.?).
I feel for the “true” athletes; they prepare for 4 years to participate, then they have to perform in air which is difficult to breathe and against competitors they are sure are doping. And, in addition, the media doesn’t take note of them since they belong to ‘fringe sports’, and showing those on TV doesn’t provide TV a big audience, creating a loss of ad revenues. This is, I am sorry to say, capitalism at its worse. The Olympics are mostly about money and cheating. I would have liked to have watched true athleticism, but all we (minus me) are going to see are the disciplines in which nobody has a chance to win without doping.
Mr. Z ("up close and personal!")
Z: ADDS: This made me so sick I had to post it. And I believe it ties with Mr. Z's post and some of your comments. So many of us are just plain whores......is $50 million so worth it that you'd not play for your own country, your own city? Kobe's making gazillions as it is........how much richer can you be? Yes, I'm Republican, but........!! And yes, I'd be THIS hurt and angry if it wasn't Kobe Bryant of the Lakers, my home team. And is he over there shmoozing with other countries NOW? Who paid for his ticket room/board over there in China? US? You think he traveled coach? It's not the money, Kobe could afford to pay his own way probably more than America can right now, but it's the principle...and there he is......interviewing?
z
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Pythagoras argued that there are three kinds of men, just as there are three classes of strangers who come to the Olympic Games. The lowest consists of those who come to buy and sell, and next above them are those who come to compete. Best of all are those who simply come to look on. Men may be classified accordingly as lovers of wisdom, lovers of honor, and lovers of gain.
Mr Z. Great post. I couldn't agree more.
To me, the "Dream Team" was the beginning of the end of Olympic competition for the sake of well......the pure competition of it.
Watching Magic or Michael Jordan was not why I watched the Olympic games, and I too have lost interest since that time.
There will never again be the utter excitement and the thrill in seeing a USA hockey team win, like their win over the then, Soviet team. And even then the Russians were subsidizing their players.
Yet, a group of American kids played their hearts out and won. That's why I used to care. That was in the true spirit of the games.
No more. The reason for the Olympics no longer exists. And now, the ultimate insult. China, an oppressive brutal regime given the "honor" of hosting the games.
Perhaps it's fitting given the fact that in today's world honor and integrity are no longer revered.
The China Oympics are the epitome of political correctness. Meaningless.
Pris
mr z. you beat me to the punch. i've been cogitating this in my mind for several days and just didn't get around to it. i'm glad you did. if i may, i'd like to touch on a few things here.
you said "...it seems suddenly to be more important to participate than to win."
you are too right; unfortunately this is nothing more han an extension of the whole feel good philosophy of the west. what does it matter if you win or lose, it's how you play the game. gosh could we use a yogi berra or a knute rockney now - as yogi said it best "it doesn't matter if you win or lose until you lose."
competition, honest equal competition that is, is a beauty to behold. the winner is exulted, the loser decimated. the getting there is worth it just to have had a chance.
you said "...the games should not have been given to Beijing because it was foreseeable that the Chinese didn’t change their stand on human rights."
say what you will about jimmy carter, but with all of his faults he had the fortitude to boycott the russian olympics - and not just the opening ceremonies. russia should never have been given the games because of their human rights abuses, but they were. the games in china are no different.
perhaps the ioc still thinks the honor of hosting the games will make them change their human rights stance. i've heard some [on the left] put forth that the ioc granting the games to moscow in 1980 was the first step in the dismantling of the u.s.s.r. yeah, right.
you said "If all of that is not enough – NBC has bought the rights for TV."
but not exclusive rights. direct tv has several channels set aside that are purely for the olympics - even the niche sports. but there are probably still a bazillion commmercials, since i'm boycotting them, i just don't know for certain. however they are broadcasting live. tivo anyone?
to add insult to injury, this morning the wall street journal released this information:
"August 9, 2008
Beijing authorities say a Chinese man attacked two American tourists on the opening day of the Olympic Games, killing one of them before committing suicide.
The U.S. Olympic Committee said the incident involved family members of a coach for the U.S. Olympic men's indoor volleyball team.
For more information, please see: http://online.wsj.com/home?mod=djemalertNEWS"
anyone seen this anywhere else? why not, is what i want to know.
Hi, Heidianne...the killing is being covered (Yahoo's headlines has it, and FOX and CNN covered it this morning pretty well)
The thing that NOBODY IS MENTIONING IS THIS:
"Beijing's Communist leaders are hypersensitive about anything that could take the shine off the games. China's Foreign Ministry said it had no immediate comment on the attack. It was not mentioned in the main evening news bulletin on state-controlled television, though it was reported by the official Xinhua News Agency and other Chinese-language media."
NOT MENTIONED IN THE EVENING NEWS? A MURDER TO AN AMERICAN DURING THE O'S IN BEIJING??? WHAT?
Great comments, all..Mr. Z's enjoying reading them and will probably comment later...He's just read me (on the German press) that an IRANIAN swimmer won't swim because a swimmer from ISRAEL started in the same line-up.
THIS IS OLYMPIAN?
Heidianne,
They reported the attack on Fox this morning. Even with the stifling security, they cannot prevent a crazed killer who's willing to die. A terrible thing, and pretty impossible to prevent.
Pris
To me the Olympics are not about politics (although I am not naive and KNOW that they are political). To me the Olympics are about the ability for one person or a group of people to stand in the same room or arena as someone from another country and be in that moment regardless of what is happening outside and around the world. Is there doping? Of course! Was there doping in whatever Olympic game past that you hold as an ideal? Of course there was! The games are no more tainted now than they ever were. The difference has much more to do with the fact that those covering the Olympics had much more honor and respect 40 years ago and people were not held to the scrutiny that they are today. As for the coverage, they are showing tons of contests on 7 different channels. Just this morning I have already seen women's volleyball, women's beach volleyball, sculling, fencing, women's soccer, women's weightlifting, and badminton. I love to watch them and always have. I probably always will.
Excellent post, Mr. Z. Your reasoning is well-defined.
I was also really disappointed when the IOC decided to allow professional athletes. But what I don't understand is the inconsistency. It seems like all of the boxers have to be amateur, but basketball and tennis players can be professional. I know they did it to increase interest in the Games, but I think they should return to "purity" and only allow amateurs in the future (this will never happen...$$$$$)
That being said, I am ashamed to admit that I will most likely tune in to watch some of the Games. I LOVE track & field and I'll watch Phelps chase history in swimming.
I like to look at it this way...the horrific politics of China have been brought to the international public's eye because of the Olympics. People have had the opportunity to speak out (outside of China anyway) against China's politics (and actually be heard) because of the exposure the Olympic Games provides.
The killing was also on the Olympic coverage itself during the women's volleyball game.
Pops, where are you seeing all of this?
I believe DirecTV even has to pay NBC which has the exclusive rights, from what we understand.
Are you pay-per-viewing?
And, are they showing all the contenders or just the 'top contender' matches. In Paris, while we lived there, I'd get so frustrated seeing EVERY skiier down the slalom course instead of JUST THE BEST of them like we see in America. Later, I started to appreciate and realize everyone deserves the chance to be seen.
where are you seeing all of this coverage? I did watch badminton this morning around 4 or 5 AM PST when I couldn't sleep. I LOVE badminton (but their net was too high!! LOL!)
Z's view: I never loved the O's as much as Mr. Z, but I did like watching and probably will...from time to time.
I'll try to watch the men's swimming because the French dissed us and I want to see them eat their words with Camembert smeared on them! (I'll keep the wine!)
and I'll probably see more......may even get Mr. Z to watch his favorite track and field.
He's pretty sour on this right now... I must say I don't quite agree with my wonderful friend Papa Frank when he suggests this kind of Olympics corruption was always there; surely there was some over the years we didn't know about, but I do believe that the DREAM TEAM really did start turning the Olympics into something other than the Olympics, as Priscilla pointed out.
let the games begin.......but let's let them return to fairness, doping tests for everyone and better testing so we can catch even the non-detectable dope, less commercials, no professionals...
ya, like that's going to happen!?
still, I'll be watching a little. (don't tell Mr. Z!)
m.a...HI! I(I'm still hoping you'll tell me which part of So Cal you're in!)
You have a good point about the O's bringing attention to China's negatives.......But, there is Mr. Bush honoring them with "our" presence. I'm not sure that's not sending a real mixed message that we don't LIKE it, but...
Angela Merkel isn't there, but the German teams are.
How tough can we get in indignation?...how can we deny kids some of whose sports allow them a very short time, physically, for excellence? They deserve to compete when they're at their best and that best might be finished before the next O's in four years, right?
I just have DISH network and there are 6 or 7 channels with different events. There are two channels that are just Olympic Games only, NBC, MSNBC, USA, TELEMUNDO, CNBC, and OXYGEN. All the networks aren't playing the Olympics all day but there are several playing them at any given time.
I also hold a different view of the doping. I think there is nothing better to show the right way than to put clean athletes up against dopers and still dominate them. Sports are largely mental and clean athletes hold the advantage, for the most part, in this area. I admit to having rose-colored glasses when it comes to the Olympic Games but I will continue to wear them and enjoy the games. I also understand anyone who can't separate the politics and the games and have respect for them. I, of course, have utmost respect for Mr. Z and usually agree with and enjoy his thinking.
Hey Z! I'm in the Central Valley. Used to live in L.A...
I look at Bush's visit as being there to honor our athletes and trying not to push China further away. Plus, has Bush 41 been involved in China since his presidency? Maybe his dad encouraged him to go. Also, he spoke out about China on the eve of the Games, so it's not like he's acting as if he approves or supports how the Chinese government does business.
Lastly, I've got to say how cool it was to see the US athletes react to Bush's visit. Kerri Walsh, the reigning gold medalist (from CA) in beach volleyball, was absolutely giddy. At one point during the Opening Ceremonies, she spotted Bush in the stands and got really excited, pointing him out to her teammate.
Walsh had this to say while Bush visited them on the practice courts:
"What an honor...He's just a great sports fan and he exudes optimism and pride in his country. We know he's proud of us."
What Pris said ...
FROM NANC (who's far too shy to comment..NOT!...just real busy and so she sent this to me in an email)
"if i could care less about the olympics, i certainly would. teevee is not really my thing and i mostly keep it on low on the news just for background noise. i'd rather have a root canal with no anesthesia than to have to watch the olympics. bwah"
nanc
m.a...enjoy the Valley (I've got Armenian heritage and no relatives there, but I know you've got plenty of 'em!)
I just saw the 3 American girls who won the gold/silver and bronze in SABRE (fencing)...so happy to have met Bush Sr.
And the Girl's volleyball team yelling "USA!" as they got back to the court after having some coaching brought tears to my eyes.
Just hearing young people yell "USA!" is good for me.
And I know Mr. Z will feel the same when he sees some German medals,(TRUST me on that one!) but..he's fair..if they doped, they're persona non grata no matter what country they represent.
I still agree with Mr. Z on most of it, but I have to admit I'm enjoying watching a little.
Except when we're not winning. Well, heck, I AM American!!
Pops, Mr. and Mrs. Z welcome civil disagreement and are grateful for yours...you definitely have excellent points and nobody's hoping you get turned off the Olympics! xxx
two root canals to be exact. of course that goes for watching most any sport on television.
now i'm off to be busy.
again.
I do have to admit that while there is some moral conflict, it's in China, corruption, professionalism taking over, doping, I still like the Olympics. Maybe I'm naive but I still think it means soemthing to the atheletes and when they step into the arena, pool, field, etc, the sport is still the reason they are there.
Chuck..I agree.
Like I said, hearing those kids yell "USA!" is enough for ME!!
I guess the whole Olympics corruption epitomizes so much that's wrong with our world today, so it's hard for Mr. Z to put it aside. And he ADORES sports!!
Now Kobe's not happy playing in LA, he's out looking for a gig in Europe that'll pay FIFTY MILL. How the heck much money must he HAVE that he'd leave the Lakers or whatever time, to go play in France or Slovenia? I find that sad. FREE MARKET (yes, I know, fellow Conservatives), but there's something 'icky' about that.
just another thing that's bugging the Z's today.
you said "...the games should not have been given to Beijing because it was foreseeable that the Chinese didn’t change their stand on human rights."
say what you will about jimmy carter, but with all of his faults he had the fortitude to boycott the russian olympics - and not just the opening ceremonies. russia should never have been given the games because of their human rights abuses, but they were. the games in china are no different.
I am more in agreement with papa frank's way of thinking, if I understand him:
To me the Olympics are not about politics (although I am not naive and KNOW that they are political). To me the Olympics are about the ability for one person or a group of people to stand in the same room or arena as someone from another country and be in that moment regardless of what is happening outside and around the world.
We may not like other forms of government in the world; call me a moral relativist if you dare, but neither do those governments (such as China and the former Soviet Union) approve of us. Athletes who simply want to compete against the best, get caught in the middle. Boycotting the '80 Games hurt a lot of athletes. It's hard for many people to realize the amount of sacrifice and tears that many who make it to the top go through, in order to get there. When I was in college, half of my team mates were world and Olympic champions and team members. My roommate was on in the '96 Olympics. I know what he put himself through to get to where he did. To have sanctimonious political decisions take away that one opportunity to participate in a dream.....to me, it's wrong. Athletes are the ones who get hurt. Not the human rights activists. Not the politicians on their soapbox. Boycotting does nothing to shine a light on a bad government.
m.a. wrote: I like to look at it this way...the horrific politics of China have been brought to the international public's eye because. of the Olympics. People have had the opportunity to speak out (outside of China anyway) against China's politics (and actually be heard) because of the exposure the Olympic Games provides.
I think that's a good way to see it.
papa frank: I also understand anyone who can't separate the politics and the games and have respect for them. I, of course, have utmost respect for Mr. Z and usually agree with and enjoy his thinking.
Well said.
I agree about the "dream team" inclusiion ruining the spirit of the Games. I don't follow basketball anyway.
REALLY good mix of opinions..thanks SO much.
I'm still on the fence.
Mr. Z has good points..all the pro Olympics points are excellent, too.
i'm watching when he's not around....so far, he's THAT disillusioned that he won't watch.
BUT, of course, there hasn't been Track and Field or Gymnastics yet....
I have never been an active sports fan.
ANd a few years back we had that French judge get paid to throw the game to some other person..forget now the exact details, but I thought to myself, ...just like the UN .
Is there anything that does not become tainted?
Anyhow.
Just read that President Bush was witnessed to be having a very heated discussion with a Mr. Putin today ..
During the games.
WVDOTTR
Thanks wordsmith!
Money talks they say. Well it may be true that (almost) everyone has their price, z.
Though I'm not really a true sports nut, the Olympic Games goes beyond the ordinary to a place where people are supposed to be putting aside other concerns for the thrill of this contest. Looks like those days might be over, at least at this particular point in history. But if it gets the world's spotlight on the horrors of Communist China and means that China is called to accountability over its reign of terror, it might just be worth it in a way.
joe farah has a biting commentary on the olympics.
p.s. - blogger AND haloscan are screwed up this morning!
thanks, nanc, but this about nails it with me and WND and Farah.
he might say "residents are prohibited from speaking to foreigners" or however exactly he put it, but the one thing I've been kind of touched about is every foreign visitor interviewed on TV has said they've been approached very sweetly and curiously by the Chinese who live there and they want to take the foreigner's (mostly Americans) picture!! And they can't be helpful enough, etc.
Hey! Maybe Farah's right and they're taking our pictures and making DOSSIERS!? (Smile)
AS BAD AS IT IS IN CHINA, and he's right about 100,000 people working securit.... don't we WANT that, for OUR safety?
i appreciate the security measures, but the olympics have more than politicized this year - this is downright hateful and uncalled for. but, it was bound to happen as it is written ALL nations will eventually hate israel.
nanc...we'd heard about that but only thru the German internet news. Here it's at Breitbart (did you know his father-in-law's Orson Bean and Orson's wife Alley is a friend of mine!? I told her Thursday at lunch that I was thinking Breitbart's sounding warmer on Obama and she assured me I WAS WRONG)..anyway......
is the msm carrying the fact that an Iranian wouldn't swim with an Israeli.
DISGUSTING. and if they're not carrying it, you see who they're protecting...right?
Hey Z!
I posted about the Iranian swimmer yesterday!
Then pondered today if his actions were, in a way, similar to the Dems in Congress.
I thought you were checking out my blog! (sniff sniff). It's okay. I'm still just a puppy in the blogosphere.
I still watch, but I do so knowing that it's not as pure as it should be. At least now they have a good use for MSNBC for 16 days...
A lot of sport is about money now, a while ago i saw what ticket prices go for at our local sports events, for a family of 4 for example, it's well over a $100 and you can't just go there and buy nothing to eat, drink and escape with free parking. No thanks, this is rich folks business this, or for people who really love their sports.
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