Friday, August 23, 2013

Bradley Manning wants the MAN out of his name?

I'm not sure, but it seems to me that if Bradley Manning now wants to be a woman, he couldn't be going to a better place, huh? :-)  (Sorry, that was my first thought when I heard his new name is Chelsea and he's going to an all-men prison.......yahoo!)  OKAY.  I'm sorry;  that's pretty rough of me.
(but true :-)

What cracks me up is US News & World Report:  "Convicted WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning, sentenced Wednesday to 35 years in prison for distributing classified documents for publication, says "the real me" is a woman.
"As I transition into this next phase of my life, I want everyone to know the real me," Manning, 25, said in a written statement broadcast Thursday on NBC's "Today" show. "I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female."
Manning was a low-level Army intelligence analyst when she provided the pro-transparency group WikiLeaks with hundreds of thousands of documents on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as State Department cables from embassies around the world."

"...when SHE provided the ......"   I guess it's already happening, huh?  :-) I guess all you have to do is say "the real me" is a woman and US News & World Report considers you (VOILA!) a WOMAN!  Hot DIGGITY dog!

Here is my question:  If Bradley does get help turning into a woman, which isn't cheap, we will be paying because he is in prison.  SO, what's to stop every other Bradley who feels like a Chelsea from suing the US Gov't for helping HIM/HER and not THEM?   I mean, why should the government pay for Bradley just because he's incarcerated?  He did something wrong, not right.  Will we be paying for every non-felon who wants to be a girl now?  And shouldn't we, if Chelsea gets her way?

Meanwhile, I'm thinking some fellas at Leavenworth will be REAL happy to see "her," huh?

oy.

38 comments:

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Manning is going to the wrong facility if he has aspirations of being somebody's girlfriend.

The US Disciplinary Barracks at Ft Leavenworth, KS is unlike other federal prisons.

The most he can hope for is for his attorney to be successful in executing a legal name change, but even then, I'm not certain that the Commadant and staff at USDB are duty bound to address him as other than the name he had upon ingestion into the DB.

What he appears to ultimately desire is elective surgery/therapy. The USDB doesn't play those games. That aside, the tax payers of these United States should never be required to have the fruits of their labors taken from them and given to another citizen, for procedures to make themselves 'feel' better....much less more tangible issues.

sue hanes said...


Z - I don't think that the federal government should pay for hormone treatments for Bradley Manning - or for Chelsea either. :[

Jim at Asylum Watch said...

Maybe he/she is angling to be reasigned to a woman's prison. Maybe Obummer will make that happen.

Mustang said...

My personal theory is that Bill Clinton is Bradley Manning’s real father. When you merge the pictures of Chelsea and Bradley, the similarity is astounding. But, I suppose it all depends on one’s definition of the word is …

The Political Chic said...

Don’t know if you’ve heard about that young Australian Chris Lane who was brutally murdered in Oklahoma while out jogging by three wastes of DNA who, according to their statements when they were arrested, were “just bored, so they decided to kill somebody.” And as they said, “FOR THE FUN OF IT” If you haven’t, you can be excused, since the OgabeMedia has been singularly disinterested in making a big deal out of it.

After all, Chris Lane looked NOTHING like the son that Barack never had!
And by the way, the two murderous scumbags DID look a lot like the sons that Barack the Bastard never had!

So, nothing to see here. Move along. Racists!

Needless to say, Barack hasn’t been holding speeches about it and, equally needless to say, Jesse Hi-Jackson, Al Sharpton and the rest of the Usual Race Baiting Suspects And neither have any and let me repeat that NEITHER HAVE ANY of the Progressive, Liberal, democraps have been tripping over themselves to arrange marches, protests, banning’s boycotting, inciting riots and whatnot to protest the murder of a stupid creepy-ass cracker who probably owned slaves… Oh wait, he was an Australian White guy. Let me also repeat that! He Was an Australian White Guy.

Z said...

CI...I couldn't agree with you more.
Let's see if he sues.

Sue, me, neither!

Jim, very well could.

Mustang, :-)

Political Chic; there apparently is rumor this morning that it wasn't quite as random as first thought.
That kid looked like a great kid; it's heart breaking.
And yes...where are those who always think it's race until it's Black kids killing a white kid?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - "Let's see if he sues."

According to an interview the other day with his attorney, that's already the intent.

Z said...

And there are prisons where we do pay for sex change operations, etc.
He could win. He'd have a lot of support by the weak leftwingers who honestly don't get the repercussions from those on the outside who want these dollars spent on their desires.
Amazing. They just want to BE NICE :-)

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - There are unfortunately.

I 'think' that only occurs in some State prisons, not any Federal, but I'd have to check on that. DoD incarceration is another game entirely. I don't think it's going to get any play.

FreeThinke said...

All I can think of when Manning and Snowden keep coming up like last night's dinner -- over and over again -- is DANIEL ELLSBERG -- also John F. Kerry and "Hanoi Jane" Fonda.

If Manning -- or is it Womanning now? -- must go to prison, and Snowden has had to take refuge in the arms of our adversaries, why was ELLSBERG allowed to remain free, and later claim Folk Hero status, while Kerry achieved the permanent incumbency Assachusetts invariably confers on filthy-rich, hyper-hypocritical scoundrels who run as Democrats, and Mademoiselle Fonda never spent even so much as a single night in the rat-infested dungeon befouled ankle deep with human excrement where she properly belonged for the past fifty-odd years?

ELLSBERG should have been sodomized with a red hot poker, drawn and quartered, hacked to pieces, grilled on a brazier and fed to those forever starving souls who live on scandal.

Anonymous said...

FT said:
"DANIEL ELLSBERG -- also John F. Kerry and "Hanoi Jane" Fonda."
and SHAW!

Fredd said...

Yeah, too bad for Manning that he ratted out the US instead of Canada. Had he been a rat fink in Canada, he would have been doing his/her time in 'Person-itoba.'

Get it? (you may remember that one, Z)

Fredd said...

Yeah, too bad for Manning that he ratted out the US instead of Canada. Had he been a rat fink in Canada, he would have been doing his/her time in 'Person-itoba.'

Get it? (you may remember that one, Z)

Radical Redneck said...

The Political Chic said...

Don’t know if you’ve heard about that young Australian Chris Lane who was brutally murdered in Oklahoma while out jogging by three wastes of DNA who, according to their statements when they were arrested, were “just bored, so they decided to kill somebody.” And as they said, “FOR THE FUN OF IT” If you haven’t, you can be excused, since the OgabeMedia has been singularly disinterested in making a big deal out of it.

After all, Chris Lane looked NOTHING like the son that Barack never had!
And by the way, the two murderous scumbags DID look a lot like the sons that Barack the Bastard never had!

So, nothing to see here. Move along. Racists!

Needless to say, Barack hasn’t been holding speeches about it and, equally needless to say, Jesse Hi-Jackson, Al Sharpton and the rest of the Usual Race Baiting Suspects And neither have any and let me repeat that NEITHER HAVE ANY of the Progressive, Liberal, democraps have been tripping over themselves to arrange marches, protests, banning’s boycotting, inciting riots and whatnot to protest the murder of a stupid creepy-ass cracker who probably owned slaves… Oh wait, he was an Australian White guy. Let me also repeat that! He Was an Australian White Guy.

ALSO
Police officers “have arrested one suspect, a juvenile male, in connection to the beating death of an 88 year old man earlier this week,” the Spokane Police Department said in a statement on Twitter. The suspect is 16-year-old Demetrius Glenn. The other attacker is still at large.

Original story below:

A WWII veteran who fought at the Battle of Okinawa, where he took a bullet to the leg and continued fighting, was beaten to death by two teens Wednesday night.

Delbert Belton, 88, from Spokane, Wash., was pronounced dead Thursday morning, KHQ reported.

Two male teens pummeled Belton outside a pool hall in what police describe a random attack.

"There was no indication that he would have known these people prior to the assault," Spokane Police Major Crimes Detective Lieutenant Mark Griffiths said.

Belton, who friends affectionally called "Shorty," enjoyed playing pool and working on cars.

Belton was Ted Denison's best friend of 23 years, Denison said in an interview.
Police are looking for two black male teens. One suspect was described as heavy set and wearing all black clothing. The other has been described as being about 6 feet tall and 150 pounds, and was wearing a silk do-rag. The Spokane Police Department is hoping the public can help track down the suspects based on video footage of the two

Jack Whyte said...

If we but consider how well Bradley Manning and too many others have turned out in a promiscuous society, it is hard to conclude that all is well in River City. You know, I never heard of gender confusion until recently. Given our anatomy, I’m not sure how such a thing is even possible. I mean, when he goes to the bathroom, does he say to himself, "This is not a penis, this is not a penis"?

@ Radical Redneck: So then I guess the Al Sharpton incitement to violence against Whites Program is working as designed, eh?

-FJ said...

Prisoners are already eligible for hormone/surgical medical treatments for "Gender Dysphoria aka-"Gender Identity Disorders"... its' in the Psych Handbook, DSM V.

You can get it through "Obamacare, too

Anonymous said...

FROM Z AT WORK...

CI...I think you're right.

I'm sure you agree with me that it's unfair to those on the OUTSIDE, who haven't committed crimes, for the government to be paying for things like this just because they're crooks and happen to be incarcerated!

Personally,I feel any prisoner even needing an appendectomy should have to pay himself, or his family. We have to pay for insurance, why not they?

FT, I don't remember much about Ellsberg, I have to admit :-(

Fredd...good to see you. NO, I don't remember..?? I guess that'd be WOMAN-Itoba for the new Chelsea!?

Radical Redneck, I wish you'd change your avatar, it really gives me the creeps to have to see Michelle looking even worse than usual!

And, you've probably heard by now that there is Twitter proof that the killing of Lane wasn't just for boredom?
I'm at work, but if you hear more on that info, could you comment here with it?

Jack...who knows? such a weird situation..but I sure don't want to PAY for people to have gender changes.
These days, little kids are saying they're really girls, etc...man, did you know anybody like that in school?
Even if they felt like that, they had the decency (there's an old fashioned word) to get on with life.

Anonymous said...

FROM Z:

FJ, not in certain prisons, from what I hear...see CI's comments above.

-FJ said...

We'll soon find out. From "Salon"

The American Civil Liberties Union has also weighed in on the subject of Manning’s access to hormone therapy, arguing that denying Manning hormone therapy may be a violation of her constitutional rights: “Without the necessary treatment, gender dysphoria can cause severe psychological distress, including anxiety and suicide. When the government holds individuals in its custody, it must provide them with medically necessary care,” ACLU staff attorney Chase Strangio said in a statement. “The official policy of the Federal Bureau of Prisons and most state agencies is to provide medically necessary care for the treatment of gender dysphoria, and courts have consistently found that denying such care to prisoners based on blanket exclusions violates the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution.”

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Again to clarify, I'm going off of general knowledge and memory on Federal prisons. The USDB is in a separate category.

"Ft. Leavenworth spokeswoman Kimberly Lewis told Courthouse News that treatment for transgender inmates does not extend beyond psychiatric care.

All inmates are considered soldiers and are treated as such with access to mental health professionals, including a psychiatrist, psychologist, social workers and behavioral science noncommissioned officers with experience in addressing the needs of military personnel in pre- and post-trial confinement, Lewis said in an email. The Army does not provide hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery for gender identity disorder."

This nugget was also included in the report "At this point, Manning wishes to maintain privacy about his gender identity."

Bullshit. Manning had his lawyer make the public statement yesterday.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2013/08/20/60451.htm

Anonymous said...

FROM Z:

CI...you're SO right...some "privacy"...what a disingenuous creep he is.

FJ...the very THOUGHT that anybody'd think denying a man turning into a woman on OUR DIME isn't constitutional makes me slightly ill.

Impertinent said...

@CI:

"The Army does not provide hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery for gender identity disorder."


Not to worry...I'm sure some inmates will recognize is desire to be a "woman"...it'll be a welcome break for the other choices they have.

I'd like him / it to live in agony for the next 2900 days.

IIRC

Lady Gunslinger said...

Just yesterday an 88-year-old World War II veteran was savagely beaten by two teenagers in a parking lot in Spokane, Wash., on Wednesday evening, KXLY-TV reports. Delbert Belton DIED in the hospital Thursday morning from the injuries he sustained in the brutal attack.
Belton was in the parking lot of the Eagles Lodge at around 8 p.m. on Wednesday when two male suspects assaulted him for no apparent reason.

Police have released surveillance photos of persons of interest in the homicide investigation. “They are described as young African American males of average build,” KHQ reports. They are believed to be between 16 to 19 in age and were wearing black clothes, while one suspect was seen wearing a black “do-rag,” according to police.

Where is Obama, Where is Al Sharpton, Where is Jessie Jerkson, where is Spike Lee, or the Black Panthers? Where is Stevie Wonder, is he still picketing Florida? ……Does OBOZO care about our Veterans….Nope Nope Nope……He wants to take guns from women……So these PIGS can RAPE women whenever they feel like it, so that they can MURDER 88 year old World War II veterans who served our country, so that these PIGS can wander through the streets killing people? …..WHERE IS OBAMA ON VETERANS

Louis H. said...

Je ne vois pas le problème, le président est une petite fille aussi.

The Debonair Dudes World said...

But when the black kid in a Hoody walking around in a Gated Community with his skittles and Iced Tea gets killed the whole country gets their panties in a wad. Like a lot of people on these blogs did.

Crabby Old Man said...

Excellent post Lady Gunslinger This great man sacrificed his life providing freedom for these two ungrateful useless turds. This heinous and pointless violence sickens my heart. May this brave Vet Delbert Belton be remembered for his service and bravery; may he rest in peace. Stories like this one makes me crazy….thinking about how this man stepped up in WWII to fight for this country when it REALLY counted, only to be snuffed out like someone stepping on a bug! Can’t help wondering how the story would read if he was carrying and managed to shoot these animals before they got him.

Obama, Sharpton, Oprah, are you you paying attention? Of course not.

Heroes Are Ordinary Men Who Do Extraordinary Things in Extraordinary Times said...

Typical lazy freeloading pigs and Obama supporters. They are so useless that have a hard time keeping the behinds wiped. You are pretty low on the pathetic scale that killing a defenseless 88 year old veteran makes them feel superior. Thanks Oprah, this is all on you and your ilk! Hope you feel better now!

Ed Bonderenka said...

The comment section here is like the ADHD center of the web.
Z puts up up a post.
You read it and have a thought.
You read everyone elses comments (well.. I do) to make sure you're not repeating some elses observation, or to second or third it.
Then somebody suddenly goes off topic.
And the whole thread goes off-topic to the point where if you were to respond to the original post, people would wonder what you were talking about.
Not to mention the comments en francais. Much.

Spidey said...

Ed Bonderenka said...
The comment section here is like the ADHD center of the web.
Z puts up up a post.
You read it and have a thought.
You read everyone elses comments (well.. I do) to make sure you're not repeating some elses observation, or to second or third it.
Then somebody suddenly goes off topic.



Hey Ed, Shit Happens, Deal with it... It's NO biggie. It happens to be a good subject.

Impertinent said...

@Lady G:

"WHERE IS OBAMA ON VETERANS"

What did you expect from a POS that never served his country? Fewer and fewer pols have been in the military these days. Seems the latest Dems abhor it...look what Clinton did when he was POTUS...besides he was a draft dodger anyway.

We don't even know if his majesty even registered for SS @ 18 as is required by law. I'd love to find out...cause if he didn't it's because he likely was a foreign exchange student.

His majesty expects that a Marines purpose is to hold an umbrella over his thick skull...thats about it. Seeming him salute these Marines as he gets off of AF1 or a Marine Helo...drives me nuts...he has no damn idea what he's doing.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

@Impertinent - "Not to worry...I'm sure some inmates will recognize is desire to be a "woman"...it'll be a welcome break for the other choices they have."

That's just it....there's not a lot of 'leisure' or 'recreational' time at the USDB. If he's been harboring any prison rape fantasies, he might be a bit unfulfilled.

Jack Whyte said...

Since everyone is ignoring me, I'll ask again: Why hasn't Al Sharpton been arrested for inciting violence against whites, including WWII veterans?

Okay, just kidding. I know the answer.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Hey Spidey.
Who are you to take that tone with me?

Elizabeth Gonzalez said...

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Hugs,
Liz

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Spidey said...

Ed Bonderenka said...
"Hey Spidey.
Who are you to take that tone with me?"


Oh, Golly Gee, I Didn't Realize That It Was "YOU"!

Kid said...

Z, I can't add anything To what I've said

I don't think anyway.

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Anonymous said...

Mustang is wrong. Bradley Manning is much more pretty than the Clinton wartsow.

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