We're told we make mus lims mad and then they become terrorists. You've all heard that. (did you hear Deepok Chopra the other night, only to name one of many?)
Some vociferous people from the American Left accuse America for having provoked your normal, everyday mu slim in Pakistan and Iran and wherever else they spawn isl amist murderers.
I'll admit it....Yes, I imagine mus lims get angry when they see Abu Gr aib and Git mo and the wars. Fine. One can almost understand that. Almost.
But...wait a minute! Did the Left ever stop to consider that Americans are angry, too? We don't like to see our soldiers killed, or the Madrid train station hit, or the London bombings, or Yemen, or mus lims marching with threatening posters, or the first World Trade Center bombing and, of course, 9/11 pretty much ticked off everyone..........shouldn't it have?
We're angry, too. You bet. We're angry at Iran for not being forthcoming on their nuclear intentions, we're angry Saddam didn't allow the IAEA in and that he told the world he did have nukes. We're angry he sailed through 16 UN sanctions when only 1 would have put America in pretty deep trouble (with our media, anyway!). We're angry that the thousands of pounds of yellow cake WERE shipped to Africa, as previously assumed, but our media barely covered that enormous story.
Yes, lots of Americans are angry. We're angry at having to take shoes off at airports, the longer lines there, the screening of Swedes because we don't want to tick anybody off, we're angry that every night on the news we hear about more types of terror...this week the emphasis is on bio-warfare....that shouldn't make US ANGRY?? We're angry to see our soldiers told "Ya, sure, you can stick around Iraq until Iraq's tired of you, but please stick around for now to train us and THEN you must leave." (as if any soldier wants to stay five minutes longer than he needs to?) We're angry at the fact that it took the killing of 3000 innocent Americans before mus lims here started telling us we can't ride in their cab with a dog, or they won't cut pork even though they work as butchers, that they only now need their feet washed before publicly praying, etc etc. Why NOW? How'd they manage this stuff before 9/11? Why did it take Mus lims killing Americans to get Musl ims more vociferous and demanding here in America? WHY?
So, what's with our Left and blaming US for the anger of terrorists? Americans grumble and gripe and write articles and have blogs, and we try to right things, but we have virtually no voice at the UN, we can't get the world's media (or ours) to tell the truth....But the BIG THING WE DO NOT DO IS.........
strap suicide bombs on our chests and kill as many innocent people as we possibly can. We don't believe collateral damage is the best kind of warfare, we try to AVOID that.
I'd say that's a huge difference, wouldn't you? They say it could be poverty and we need to pay to bring poor mus lims out of their poverty and maybe then they'll like us and unstrap the suicide bombs. But, they've been poor for years.........why now? Isn't that an insult to Is lam?? I think so.
The left is angry that we've kicked a hornet's nest...........isl amists kicked our nest pretty hard, too, don't you think? Do you know any American civilian who's gone to a clandestine training center to learn to kill innocent people? And, if we did, wouldn't our media blast it wide open, revealing it, taking the people to hearings.....telling the world and chiding US with "WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT?" (couldn't our 'being better than that' and restraining ourselves from fighting back make us, possibly, one day, also far DEADER than that?)
Why is our left so angry at US?
Why is it SO not okay for US to be angry? Or, at least.....why make it seem OUR FAULT THEY are SO ANGRY?
Just a thought. You got any on the subject? Oh, and you know what? I'm thinking that most Mus lims are pretty angry, too. I'm thinking that most do NOT strap suicide belts on and wouldn't dream of it.
z
15 comments:
Hi, Patriot..great comment.
"so angry"..RUBBISH. Ya, Israel's apparently ready to attack without the US if need be. They have really good intel, so I'm guessing Iran has something 'splendid' planned for them ...and soon, or Israel wouldn't be saber rattling quite like this.
I mean it has to be REALLY a serious threat....we know Iran's been threatening in many ways...but Israel's always stayed somewhat subdued until now.
Interesting, isn't it, the adage "Take Palestinian guns away, there'd be peace......take Israel guns away, there'd be no Israel".
well said...and it sure wasn't me who said it. Palestine..Iran...all want ONE THING. Bye Bye, Israel. God FORBID.
One more in a long line of accommodating everybody's idiosyncrasies. Once you start deviating it becomes the new norm to placate everyone for everything. Multiculturalism has its place, but taken too far it becomes paralyzing. I don't mind teaching a little social history because there are a lot of untold stories. But not at the expense of our shared history as Americans. There does exist an American culture that is fast becoming a secret. America does have heroes that did heroic things at great danger to themselves and our children need to hear about them so that they might emulate them. After all, we can't just allow their heroes to be rappers, athletes, and gangsters. American heroes didn't strap bombs on themselves and kill innocent people in order to settle age-old scores. They started a new world by placing their individual desires second to the public good. The priniciple of "civic virtue" used to be taught and celebrated in school. Not so much anymore. I guarantee I'll teach it and patriotism and love of country as long as I'm front of a class of students. That's a promise.
LAW & ORDER: Check this out:
http://culturismnews.blogspot.com/
Excellent blog on CULTURISM..His book is excellent, too..VERY good reading on culturism.
And yes, America DOES have a culture and yet so many Americans are so much more into celebrating the cultures of others as if ours were second-rate. It never happened before, why NOW?
Accomodation.
"Tolerance and Apathy are the two virtures of a dying society"..Aristotle. Our accomodation and tolerance for those dissing OUR culture could be very dangerous because it sets a kind of 'mind-set precedent' this wonderful country doesn't deserve.
Why is it SO not okay for US to be angry?
Because in a leftist world, only leftists have the right to be angry.
Moslems are angry because the ideology to which they adhere promotes anger and victimhood.
Well done Z! Bravo! There's a common denominator in ALL of these conflicts and drama...ISLAM!!!
Morgan
Did the Left ever stop to consider that Americans are angry, too?..in a word: NO!
Z, you of course realize that none of this happened until Bush invaded Iraq and upset these previously peace loving people.
As far as your assertion that we are mad, your damned right. Unfortunately I think a lot of the anger and outrage from 9/11 has dissipated since then.
Good post.
Nor do we strap explosives to our own children or to development disabled people and send them to "paradise."
Somehow the Libs and the terrorists sleep perfectly fine at night.
Other than Deepcrack Chopra (who listens to that moron?) who is saying that America provoked Pakistan?
The reality based community on the left sees this as a fight between the Pakistani military and the Pakistani democracy elements.
The Pakistani military is the group which benefits the most from continued tensions. We've given them many billions, they love us.
I am mad! We have at least a thousand years of terrorism towards the West to cause that anger.
331 B.C.-Alexander the Great conquers Persia. This began the conflict between Europe and Persia.
614 B.C- Jerusalem was taken by the Persians
638- Jerusalem was taken by the Arab Moslems
circa 970-Emperors Nicephorus Phocas and John Zimisces attack Moslems in what is now
Turkey
1095-1300 (circa) the Crusades
1090- The Persians out of necessity invent the most effective covert warfare known at the time, The Assassins. This terrorized the Europeans.
1620-1798 - The East Indies was conquered by the Dutch
1664- Persians and Russians at war
1722- Persians and Russians at war again
1801-1815- The Barbary Wars (The Shores of Tripoli) This was the first time the U.S. of A became involved in the ancient war between the Europeans and Moslems
1820- Oman and Qatar are controlled by the British
1830-1857-The French conquer Algeria
1834-1859-Russia conquers the Caucasus
1839- Adan is taken by Britain
1873-1887-Russia takes Uzbekistan
1882- Egypt is taken by Britain
1885-1890- Italy conquers Eritrea
1898- Britain conquers the Sudan
1900- The French conquer Chad
1909-1910- The Russians and the British invade Persia
1941- The Russians and British, once again invade Persia
1946-The Russians withdraw from Persia which leaves it to the British
1953- With the help of the Americans and the British, the Shah is installed.
1953-1979- The Moslem population of Iran begin an underground movement to remove the
influence of "The Great Satan"(USA) and the Shah.
1979- The Revolution. The Shah is overthrown and 52 Americans are taken hostage for
444 days. This begins America's war with Iran. The Islamist in Iran begin to
perfect the covet warfare they have practiced over eight centuries.
1983- The U. S. takes the side of the Christians in Lebanon. The U.S. shells Moslem villages involved and who were backed by the Iranian regime. The terrorist attack the marine barracks and kill 241 marines. (This is when my husband joined the Marine Corp)
1984- 16 ships were damaged by mines in the Red Sea.
1985- Islamic leader is killed by car bomb in Lebanon.( most likely with US aid)
1987- US allies with Saddam Hussein (God forgive us!) against the Iranians ( clearly a lesser of two evils at the time)
1988- Pan Am Flight 103 blown up over Scotland
1989- 2 Libyan jets shot down
1990- Iraq invades Kuwait
1991-Iran buys Chinese technology for enriching uranium
1992- There are reports that Iran buys 3 Soviet nuclear weapons from Kazakhstan. Iran also begins buying Russian subs.
1993- World Trade Center blast. A middle eastern man kills 5 people entering the CIA Headquarters.
1994- Iranian Revolutionary Guards begin meeting with Islamic activists in South America. Russians with nuclear expertise are known to be working in Iran.
1994 -war between Chechens ( Moslems) and Russians.
1995- Israelis say the Iranians will have nuclear capabilities within a number of years.
1996- A terrorist bomb blasts kill 19 Americans in Saudi Arabia
1997- Robert Kaplan, a middle east expert, says Iran has a "shop till you drop" policy regarding nuclear weapons.
1998- War between Moslems and Serbs (Christians) in Kosovo
- bombing of 2 US embassies in Africa by Moslems
2000- Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed.
2001- 9/11, War in Afghanistan
2002-Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.
2003-Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected.
2004- Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American.
- Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks.
-Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security.
2005- Amman, Jordan: Suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility.
2006-Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy was foiled.
2007-Athens, Greece: the U.S. embassy was fired on by an anti-tank missile causing damage but no injuries.
- Algeria: More than 60 people are killed, including 11 United Nations staff members, when Al Qaeda terrorists detonate two car bombs near Algeria's Constitutional Council and the United Nations offices.
And then the latest in India.
Sorry so long,Z, but I do get tired of people who think this all new! It's the same old war.
Ducky, who said anybody thinks America provoked the country of Pakistan? We're talking about terrorists; not the whole country of Pakistan is made up of terrorists.
Deepak Chopra's very popular; you think he's popular with the Right?
Think again. Larry King fawns over him, people line up for miles and buy his books. Silly for denial of that.
JM....I don't usually like really long comments, but yours is SO right; Angry over HOW MANY islamist terror incidents? And yet, WE are the ones who need to get past anger and financially and otherwise support those who've hurt the West for YEARS? WHY? Why can't the Left ever feel WE have been wronged?
Ducky blurted:
"The reality based community on the left sees this as a fight between the Pakistani military and the Pakistani democracy elements."
Reality based? ROTFLMAO!!!!! Let me address the rest of your misunderstanding after I'm done rolling on the floor!
Morgan
It's all a pile of bullsh*t Z, i did a post about this just today, when you think about it, it's never about the grievances that muslims feel, that's just a smokescreen for the evil scum amongst them.
Take out the atlas and have a look, apart from the western world, just about every other part of the planet is a craphole, poverty, starvation, injustice, it's all there, but you don't see Brazilians, haitians, Congolese, Zimbabweans, Burmese, Chinese and even hindus strapping bombs to themselves and shooting westerners because of who they are, do you.
Hi, Morgan!...amazing, isn't it?!!
MK...I'll come see your piece...I couldn't agree with you more!
We knew that when leftists came out and told us that fighting wars in Islamic countries only creates terrorists among people we shouldn't profile at the airport that even the September 11th attacks couldn't persuade the left from their death grip monopoly on convincing people that all leftists are imbeciles. Letting them speak for themselves is more efficient than pointing it out.
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