Saturday, June 19, 2010

Taking American Land from Americans?


Ya, I know. Someone will say "This is to keep Americans SAFE, aren't YOU for keeping Americans SAFE?" Yes, I'm ALL for that...so let's close the border; it worked well in San Diego. Let's do the right thing for a change....let's not give in.
What the HELL happened to this country? Sorry, but every single day now there's some unbelievable story of American weakness; We can't fix the oil leak and don't even send the right people with equipment to help, we can't close borders so we let only Mexicans occupy land, the Dept of Homeland Security will condemn Montana mountain men who act like militia and hunt them down but God forbid they condemn Islamist terror camps in this country, we're allowing one voter to have six votes, we're giving condoms to kids in school, we've trained Afghans who're on the loose now but we weren't told for 3 years..........etc etc etc............And, I suppose we'll have someone whitewash this story in the video, too. "No story here, folks...move on"..Yes, if only this story wasn't piled onto so MANY stories, we might overlook it. Maybe.

z

48 comments:

Faith said...

Yes, what happened? Yes, some unbelievable story of American weakness. It's very hard to take, day after day.

My answer is one I've given many times. America is under God's judgment. That is the only explanation that makes any sense of our inability to act. It's like we're under a spell.

There IS a solution. HOURS AND HOURS of REPENTANCE AND PRAYER on the part of God's people. Not just A prayer for the nation now and then, but HOURS of prayer, WITH REPENTANCE, sacrificial prayer.

We need revival of the churches, God Himself coming down to change and empower us. In many accounts of revivals one thing that is striking is the amount of prayer that went on before God came down. People praying hours a day, and in some cases thousands of people in an area praying.

But American Christians are woefully unprepared for this kind of concentrated spiritual work these days. That includes me.

That's the diagnosis and that's the treatment. Looks pretty hopeless at the moment.

Anonymous said...

It seems the only people Obama can be tough on is Americans. He looks for ways to inhibit, intimidate, and punish Americans while giving in to criminals from across the border, and generally disdain American traditions and our Constitution.

He gave his word to the Arizona Governor and had no problem breaking it. In fact this lack of action described in the video is a slap in the face. And now the word is out that the government is suing Arizona for it's new law.

How much of this crap are we going to take? This administration is there for one reason. To destroy this country. It's anarchy from the top down. There is no law for this administration except what it chooses to observe.

I don't know about anyone else, but to me, ever since Obama took office, it's felt like a coup has taken place by a foreign entity. An entity which hates America, and everything we've ever stood for.

Bit by bit we're losing our country and we're under siege. There's no other way to look at what's going on.

Pris

Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Every day -- literally, every day it's some new abrogation with this administration. Which is WHY we can ill afford to give up!

REMEMBER NOVEMBER!

BZ

Craig and Heather said...

FaithMy answer is one I've given many times. America is under God's judgment. That is the only explanation that makes any sense of our inability to act. It's like we're under a spell.


PrisIt's anarchy from the top down. There is no law for this administration except what it chooses to observe.


Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight!
Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine, and valiant men in mixing strong drink,
who acquit the guilty for a bribe, and deprive the innocent of his right!


Judgment is scary. But those who are being obedient when it happens do not need to fear God's wrath. He may or may not spare the hardship---but He will at all times guide and strengthen His children who diligently seek shelter in Him.

He's the only "safe" place.

Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
They collapse and fall, but we rise and stand upright.
Psalm 20:7-8


H

Craig and Heather said...

Elmers Brother,

If you happen by here, would you mind dropping back by my site for a minute?

Your comment got me thinking and I was hoping you might answer a question or two that came up.

Thanks,

Heather

Linda said...

I agree, our country is under siege, and the one who is leading it is our 'beloved leader'. I think his plan is to turn us into another Muslim country. We need to continue with the fight, and not give up!

Always On Watch said...

What the HELL happened to this country? Sorry, but every single day now there's some unbelievable story of American weakness...

In a word: Obama

Daily, under BHO, things grow more and more surreal.

Karen Howes said...

I saw this... the situation is really getting out of control.

I second Anonymous... I too feel like we've been occupied.

FrogBurger said...

Obama now but before Bush did nothing. And before him the same. Motivations are different but results are the same.

Our politicians are just failing us left and right. They don't care. You would think that McCain would have done something for his state but nope.

All fakes.

Very sad.

Brooke said...

WTF is this? The obvious answer is to put the military on the border and tell them to shoot anyone approaching this country, regardless.

Instead, we get an incredible show of weakness from the Obama administration.

Ducky's here said...

A good prayer meeting might help. Start in L.A, z, and pray that people stop smoking so much weed and shoving coke up their nose.

That would be preferable to a war on our border but I don't hold much hope. Just part of the alienation of consumerism that the warnings have been out on for so long.

Craig and Heather said...

Just part of the alienation of consumerism that the warnings have been out on for so long.

Out of control "consumerism" is just a symptom of unchecked human sinfulness. It's feeding of what the Bible describes a the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.


H

Faith said...

I was just researching Margaret Thatcher, hoping to find some quotable quotes, thinking what we need among all these women who have recently come out for the conservative cause is another Thatcher, someone who can handle the snarky lying press with dignity and pithy truths. Interesting in light of this blog entry to find that she was motivated by a feeling of helplessness about what had happened to her nation:

In her foreword to the 1979 Conservative manifesto, Thatcher had written of "a feeling of helplessness, that a once great nation has somehow fallen behind."[4] (At Wikipedia).

She doesn't think in terms of God's judgment, which is certainly what's been wrong with Britain for a long time, but she is an example of the best pure human will can come up with, and God blessed her efforts.

FrogBurger said...

Nothing wrong with consumerism as long as people can afford what they buy.

Too easy to criticize consumerism when people at the same time bitch when the economy is bad. Or criticize consumerism when people brag about their iphone or ipod touch. Makes me laugh.

Mustang said...

Recall that Theodore Roosevelt set aside millions of acres of land in order to preserve nature for future generations. We might assume this Federal Reserve was, or is now part of that program. Once the land has been set aside, it is the federal government’s responsibility to police it. Of course, the National Park Service cannot do that with a budget insufficient to that purpose. It is the exact same situation we face with an under funded, under staffed United States Border Patrol. There is no mandate by the federal government to safeguard these national parks from the nefarious activities of foreign invaders who just happen to be involved in the transportation, distribution, and sale of narcotics. Um … and moving illegal aliens into the United States, many of whom speak Arabic or Farsi. As it happens, the federal government does not intend to enforce immigration laws; if this is true, then why do we assume the feds have any interest in protecting our national forests?

Craig and Heather said...

Nothing wrong with consumerism as long as people can afford what they buy.

Too easy to criticize consumerism when people at the same time bitch when the economy is bad. Or criticize consumerism when people brag about their iphone or ipod touch. Makes me laugh.


Certainly we all consume. As living beings, it is an inescapable fact of life.

I wanted to clarify that my comment was not intended to be anti-consumerist but rather just to point out that Ducky's assessment of our "problem" is wrong. Therefore, his proposed solution of inviting an overinflated, socialist govt to take over so we are all equally poor and incapable of freely choosing to make any sort of consumer purchase is also wrong.

When greed is driving people to be wasteful of resources or incur staggering amounts of debt, then simply cutting off the ability to "consume" isn't going to fix things. Poverty-stricken people can still be intensely greedy and, if the underlying attitude is not changed, the continued grabbing for stuff can result in more esthetically repulsive ways to satisfy that greed than racking up credit card debt and hypocritically pointing fingers at other consumers whom they've decided are at fault for our messed up society.

H

FrogBurger said...

I'm not opposed to greed. It is part of human nature and the morality around it really bugs me. It's normal to me to want more than you have. It's a personal decision and I refuse to be like Obama and judge people who want more than they need or deserve.

Usually this morality comes from the left as everyone should be equal. However, the gov unions screaming for more money while the private sectors suffers is also greed. Obama or Pelosi getting a lot of money for their books are greedy. Someone spending all his day on blogs while he's supposed to work and earn his paycheck is greed too.

Greed is problematic if it results into a crime and there's a victim. Otherwise it makes the world go round.

heidianne jackson said...

so all of the illegal immigration is the fault of the people whom have become addicted to the drugs they supply? WTF?!? talk about a strawman argument!! I suppose you would also argue, ducky, that those gang-bangers would have no need for illegal weapons it only the law abiding would dispose of theirs. it's not THEIR fault they act in an illegal manner, it's my fault because I'm licensed to carry and own several guns, right ducky?

Anonymous said...

Part of the problem lies with the silly Eco weenie rules that the Feds themselves imposed on that acreage too.

Which could easily be suspended like the Jones Act ( which is keeping foreign ships from aiding in the cleanup! ) in the Gulf disaster.

They can't use motorized vehicles in the area to chase these mexi-cons down!

Now how stupid is that? If Jan Brewer gets really pissed off....she might order National Guard tanks to that border. I'm hoping she asks for former military sharpshooters to volunteer to help her pick the slime balls off.

I wouldn't blame her at all. It's only a matter of time before real shooting starts ( initiated by the foul mexi-cons "army" )
and the people in AZ say...screw it...I'm shooting back.

Major

Anonymous said...

"A good prayer meeting might help. Start in L.A, z, and pray that people stop smoking so much weed and shoving coke up their nose."

Interesting Ducky. I believe you work in the entertainment industry, and I venture to guess that unlike me, you actually know people, no doubt on the left, who actually do smoke weed and shove coke up their noses. So, save your anti-drug speech for those for whom it may do some good! No guts no glory, Ducky.

If there's a possibility for war on our border, it's because nothing has been done for decades about this problem.

Now, Obama has suspended the building of fences along the border and practically given an engraved invitation to hardened criminals to enter the US.

Stop with your weak, nonsensical responses please, and deal with the problem at hand. It's not complicated. We either take action now, or diddle and allow it to get to the breaking point, and that's not far off.

You liberals and leftists and some Rinos, with your political correctness, and desire to control and exploit illegal aliens have asked for this, and will never admit that you were wrong.

So whatever results from this invasion, is smack dab on your doorstep. The least you can do is shut up, which I figure shouldn't take the courage it will take, to solve the problem.

As usual you'll leave the heavy lifting to conservatives and whine and wring your hands from a distance like you and yours always do!

Pris

Z said...

Pris "As usual you'll leave the heavy lifting to conservatives and whine and wring your hands from a distance like you and yours always do!"
And complain why he's not getting his way and why things aren't ever going to be absolutely liberal utopia.....
so "MAKE ANOTHER LAW! We Libs LOVE LAWS"
Ya, Ducky, let's do the liberal thing and make yet another law to fix a problem: But, wait a minute...why is it we can't enforce laws like immigration laws just because that's a law the Left actually doesn't like?

Anonymous said...

"And complain why he's not getting his way and why things aren't ever going to be absolutely liberal utopia....."

Exactly Z, and the reason he's not happy with Obama, is because utopia is shaping up to be more like a nightmare as it's always been. Ducky and his comrades dreamed of something that looks a lot different.

Reality is a funny thing isn't it?, IT'S REAL!

Pris

Law and Order Teacher said...

Z,
I'm with BZ. Everyday it seems something else is done by the admin to stick a finger in our eye. Friday (of course) the admin let it leak that they are filing a lawsuit against Arizona's immigration law.

I wonder if they will strip their much more restrictive law from the federal law first. Obama is a pandering jackass with little regard for anyone but himself. I think that defines arrogance, right?

Z said...

PRIS, it's getting more 'real' every day! ugh.

Hi Law and Order...thanks for coming by..Odd that they'd not fix the Fed Law to suit their lax stance, huh, which is harder on immigrants than the AZ law is?
There's something very odd about this and I'm not sure we'll ever find out what it is; but I guess it's the Left desirous of more people they can have join the Lefties who come here to hate America and ask for hand outs and VOTE DEMOCRAT (Or just have one guy come and vote six times for his illegal friends who're living in that community, did you see THAT?). I don't know when obama will realize the gravy train will stop and he'll have no way to pay all these scavengers...

Anonymous said...

"I don't know when obama will realize the gravy train will stop and he'll have no way to pay all these scavengers..."

Obama doesn't care about that. He won't be President by the time that realization kicks in! The left is good at littering, but never looks in the rear view mirror.

Pris

Craig and Heather said...

I'm not opposed to greed. It is part of human nature and the morality around it really bugs me. It's normal to me to want more than you have. It's a personal decision and I refuse to be like Obama and judge people who want more than they need or deserve.

Greed is part of human nature that causes us to be at odds with God. It's part of why we need Christ to stand in our place.

There is nothing Obama-ish about recognizing that we all have a wrong tendency to covet stuff--or that greed can lead us to do things we should not.

If I was being judgmental, I'd have placed myself above others, as though I'm not also subject to God's standard of right and wrong.

I simply pointed back to what God has already said. Whether or not you accept it is between you and Him.

H

Anonymous said...

Heather, we're all, every one of us, judgemental about one thing or another, and indeed some people.

You just made a judgement about greed. We make judgements when we choose friends, our likes and dislikes.

If we didn't we'd be floundering and confused, and unable to make decisions.

We're human beings not gods. If we were meant not to be judgemental, God would not have given us the gift of intelligence.

Pris

Craig and Heather said...

Pris,

It appears there are two applications of the term "judgment" in play here.


I completely agree with you that we all make decisions as we form opinions or measure a thing or person against some sort of ideal.

I prefer blue to red. So far as I know, the Bible is not specific as to whether a preference there is sinful, so I am free to choose (judge) for myself which is more attractive. There are many things in which the Lord has allowed us a measure of freedom of choice--so long as we do not beat up others for their difference of opinion.

On the other hand, pointing to a street sign that clearly says STOP--and informing someone of what it means--is simply upholding an existing standard rather than unilaterally proclaiming new law.
Scripture does say it is wrong to nurture existing attitudes like greed or pride. According to God's Word, I am not free to determine for myself whether greed is a good thing and it would be both cowardly and unloving of me to avoid referencing His standard as I interact with others.



Making a decision based on an existing standard (I need to stop at the STOP sign) is not being "judgmental" in the negative sense of making up a rule (blue is best) and then pridefully declaring that another person fails to measure up (all blue-haters are idiots).




What I mean when I say that I'm not being "judgmental" is that I recognize that I am not above God's standard and do not sit on His throne as the final authority of another person's soul.

I realize that there is an amazing range of beliefs represented on this site and I do not wish to appear to be rude or spiteful or dismissive (judgmental) of another when he strongly disagrees about whether greed is a good thing.

Anonymous said...

Heather, it was not my intent to imply in any way, that there was rudeness or dismissiveness on your part.

Just a differing opinion on both our parts.

Pris

Craig and Heather said...

Well Pris,

I suggest we settle this the liberal way.

I'll now pitch a fit about how you not only need to see this from my perspective but must wholeheartedly agree with me.

We can exchange juvenile insults for at least 12 comments and then hand things back to Geeez Readership so they can judge which of us behaves the most childishly.

The loser can then snivel about how unfair life is and how the govt needs to relieve the winner of all her goods and spread them around to those who refuse to accept that there's no such thing as a free ride.

What do you think?

;D

Craig and Heather said...

Alternatively, I could just say "OK" and we could move on.


Heather

heidianne jackson said...

oh heather, you just made my day! i can't stop giggling now...

Craig and Heather said...

oh heather, you just made my day! i can't stop giggling now...


:D

Law and Order Teacher said...

C&H,
Well done.

Z said...

Without Ducky here, though, you could never get the FULL impact of liberal 'perspective'!! :-)

Craig and Heather said...

Without Ducky here, though, you could never get the FULL impact of liberal 'perspective'!! :-)

He's welcome to join us.

I'm all for equal opportunity argumentation.

Actually, I was secretly hoping someone would chuck a rotten cyber-tomato at me so I could go pour myself a beer and cry into it.

H

Z said...

H, we DO get the full impact of him every day :-)
Ya, let's have a beer summit!
I hope Craig's had a nice Father's Day.!!

Susannah said...

"There IS a solution. HOURS AND HOURS of REPENTANCE AND PRAYER on the part of God's people. Not just A prayer for the nation now and then, but HOURS of prayer, WITH REPENTANCE, sacrificial prayer."

Amen, & amen, & amen...

Heaven help us.

Anonymous said...

Heather, OK works for me.

Pris

MK said...

Can America give obama to mexico, would they take him though, i mean, they are trying to get rid of all their useless parasites as it is.

Now you know why you were refused entry quacky.

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