So, Mr. and Mrs. Z had a bit of trouble sleeping Saturday night because Condo #4 was having a party. That's fine, he's single, he has friends........A LITTLE loud, but not too bad. We finally slept.
2:30 in the morning, I wake up to a sound in the condo pool. I get up and cross the hallway to look out my window here by my computer (it's like a lighthouse window here, I can see a lot) and I peer down at the brightly lit turquoise rectangle of water below. In it is a girl of about 25. Said girl is completely nude. "Well," Z thinks, "THAT's a new one around here!" I look a little to the left and there's Ben, from #4, sitting in a pool chair. Next to him is another man. They are clothed. Ben has a camera. The girl is, shall we say, not shy. Okay, I think......that's ...different! I go back to bed.
Ten minutes later, my curiosity's getting the best of me (come ON, yours would have, too.....). Ben has gone inside (he soon came back out with wine coolers) and la femme fatale is asking the other man, now also naked and in the pool, some questions. "Oops," I think, "this is REALLY ..........different!"
"What do you do?" The man says he's worked some film production, driven some truck, and is now staying with Ben for a few weeks, until he "gets his *()^& together. " Charming. I go back to bed. But, (come ON, you would have been curious, too) I get up five minutes later because it's awfully quiet now "maybe they've gone inside?"
Let's just say "Oh, no.....they HADN'T...they were quietly........................... ya." Well, after all, she'd now known him for probably a couple of hours (if they'd met and talked during the large party?) and had now known what he does for a living for all of ten minutes.
Okay, well.....they are adults. But, I think about this girl and I think how little it took for her to have sex with this guy. Then, I'm torn. Am I being a PRIG? Am I feeling a little creepy because I swam in the pool that afternoon and would swim in it again Sunday? Stay with me here...I do have a point. Would I care if I knew she'd had sex in Ben's extra bedroom with this complete stranger after the party, I ask myself? The answer is "for me, no, what do I care? For her, OH yes, I do care." Is sex THIS casual these days, is it THIS meaningless, THIS ....well.......PETA-esque, let's say? (I think you get my drift?) Aren't humans better than this? Will things improve or what do we expect for little girls who're now, say, ten years old?
I wake up in the morning and I have a gloom I can't shake, and I think of last night. I think how our society's different than it was and I wonder if it can be good and uplifting and honorable again? Sure, behavior like this isn't rare and never has been, but has it been rarER over the years? Yes. I think of today's 4 yr old little girls what things will be like when they're 18, and I think that this young girl reveres sex so lightly that she hasn't anything really wonderful and exciting to fantasize about, to look forward to. Does she know the feeling of sex with LOVE, I ask myself? Can she ever know, is she so desensitized that she'd do this with a stranger in front of someone else? Gloom hung over me most of Sunday. Until about 3:00. Here I was (as usual) sitting at my computer next to the aforementioned window. I hear voices and my mind goes to last night and that young girl. I look down.
John from condo #9 has brought 2 1/2 yr old Lisa, his firstborn of 2 adorable Asian/American daughters down to the pool. I mention her ethnicity because her mother's Chinese and I think mixed race children are SO beautiful, and OH, is she!! Lisa LOVES the water and comes down with Mommy from time to time and chats with Z while she's in the pool or on a chaise reading another Martha Grimes mystery. But, I have never seen Daddy with Lisa like this. Her hair is in pig tails with pink barrettes and she's wearing those little arm things that keep children afloat. She's wearing a ruffly pink bathing suit and she is giggling in her daddy's arms. He is clearly besot with love for her. "You hang onto me, sweetie, Daddy's taking you in the water." "Wait for Daddy, Lisa..." "Hold on now, sweetheart". He glides her around the pool and she laughs and laughs. It's such a delight to see this. He holds her under her arms and glides her right through the water where last night's scene had happened........giggling, happiness, purity and goodness erase the area for me. The white splash of sunlit water seems to clean the night.
I think how good, how very sweet, this is. I feel like this was a gift to me and that's why I'm giving it to you, corny and priggish as this whole silly account probably seems to you. I felt uplifted and have felt better since. In the reality of daily life, in the midst of a harshness and coarseness, can come beauty and optimism. I felt it was a message. I was uplifted.
that's all.
I wake up in the morning and I have a gloom I can't shake, and I think of last night. I think how our society's different than it was and I wonder if it can be good and uplifting and honorable again? Sure, behavior like this isn't rare and never has been, but has it been rarER over the years? Yes. I think of today's 4 yr old little girls what things will be like when they're 18, and I think that this young girl reveres sex so lightly that she hasn't anything really wonderful and exciting to fantasize about, to look forward to. Does she know the feeling of sex with LOVE, I ask myself? Can she ever know, is she so desensitized that she'd do this with a stranger in front of someone else? Gloom hung over me most of Sunday. Until about 3:00. Here I was (as usual) sitting at my computer next to the aforementioned window. I hear voices and my mind goes to last night and that young girl. I look down.
John from condo #9 has brought 2 1/2 yr old Lisa, his firstborn of 2 adorable Asian/American daughters down to the pool. I mention her ethnicity because her mother's Chinese and I think mixed race children are SO beautiful, and OH, is she!! Lisa LOVES the water and comes down with Mommy from time to time and chats with Z while she's in the pool or on a chaise reading another Martha Grimes mystery. But, I have never seen Daddy with Lisa like this. Her hair is in pig tails with pink barrettes and she's wearing those little arm things that keep children afloat. She's wearing a ruffly pink bathing suit and she is giggling in her daddy's arms. He is clearly besot with love for her. "You hang onto me, sweetie, Daddy's taking you in the water." "Wait for Daddy, Lisa..." "Hold on now, sweetheart". He glides her around the pool and she laughs and laughs. It's such a delight to see this. He holds her under her arms and glides her right through the water where last night's scene had happened........giggling, happiness, purity and goodness erase the area for me. The white splash of sunlit water seems to clean the night.
I think how good, how very sweet, this is. I feel like this was a gift to me and that's why I'm giving it to you, corny and priggish as this whole silly account probably seems to you. I felt uplifted and have felt better since. In the reality of daily life, in the midst of a harshness and coarseness, can come beauty and optimism. I felt it was a message. I was uplifted.
that's all.
z
34 comments:
The yin and yang. It will always be thus.
oh z, what a GREAT post this is!! first of all i love seeing stuff like that in real life, you know what happened at the pool. i thought that was hilarious and it makes such great writing fodder!
and then that beautiful father-daughter scene in the same pool the very next day.
yes, when i think about my daughters (17 and 19) and their peers and what they're possibly up to behind my back....*sigh* i just try not to think about it i guess. youth is wasted on the young right? great post!
A simple thing that makes all the difference in the world. Are you in the shadows and sometimes see light or are you in the light and see an occasional shadow?
Historically, human society has seldom relied upon men to exhibit moral behavior; if women were once our moral compass, we seem to have broken it.
Imagine, parents having to take a gallon of clorox to the pool before allowing the kiddies to play.
Sad.
I have a slightly different take on this I guess.
I cringed when the father and daughter got into the pool. Instead of seeing them as erasing the event of the night before, that event seemed to contaminate them in my mind as if the pool needed to be cleansed before they could go into it. it was a visceral sort of reaction so I'm not trying to say it's the only right reaction.
Another thought: Aren't Christians SUPPOSED to be "prigs" about fornication, Z? And even if curiosity is strong, aren't we supposed to TRY to turn our eyes away?
I couldn't tell you if sexual promiscuity is more or less prevalent now than it was in the 80's. I know that it's always seemed to be there. I've found girls to be more hesitant at first, but just as "froggy" as most men I know. The situation did seem kinda sad as you described it. Takes the fun out of it to a certain degree.
Morgan
I would simply cite one statistic. Only 8% of children were born to children w/o fathers in 1940. Today, that number was 48% in '93. I have no idea what it is today.
1:12 to 1:2
Now a step father is much MUCH more likely to abuse a stepdaughter than he is his own "natural" born child.
And therein lies the unseen tragedy associated with the scenes witnessed.
fj..'step father'??
Anybody got the scent that Biden might drop out "for personal reasons" and Hillary might step in?
That was the rumor last week and today he said Hillary's a better choice.
God help us all.
long time no see Z...the immorality ..sigh...when will the pendulum swing back?
A male person not the baby daddy...
But you're right, who bothers to get married?
It's part of the road to barbarity. We lose our shame, our decency and good order and devolve to the lowest common denominator...all I can think is, what will that 25 yr. old have to offer when(and IF, at this point) real love comes her way? Nothing special, nothing sacred, nothing of great worth...just a jaded body, ad all the men...and their partners...and their partners...ad infinitum.
And then the freshness of a father nd daughter in right order!
Truly 180 degree separatio...the question now is, did te 25 yr. old have that kind of daddy love?
tmw
The lose of it sends girls on quests to find it...
comment moderatio...bedhbt, curious, no?
Beautifully said. Sometimes, I think we need to see the side of life that's lacking in order to appreciate the side that isn't.
As Ducky's Here said it so eloquently, the yin and yang.
Thank you for putting it in words that resonated so strongly. I recall a similar experience when I was lifeguarding at the community pool, and you echoed my thoughts from long ago.
I refuse to believe this is the norm. I don't want to attack the girl because she may have issues we don't know. The sad part of this is that, not always, but often this is the result of personal history, abuse, etc.
Song of Eve
Gardens limitless expand
In a green and pleasant land
There beneath the apple tree
Adam, fair, made love to me
Innocence was lost, but man!
That's when all the fun began.
~ Traditional
Submitted by FT
She's obviously looking for love, in the wrong places. And I do feel like when she's finally aware of her worth as a human, she'll have a lot to offer. When she realizes her incredible value, she'll be a new person. I see it as a starting point.
Thank God for good fathers. Daughters need them so.
WOW, now there is some sex ed for ya...nothing like free porn night right in your own back yard. yuck. :)N
Z wrote:
"Anybody got the scent that Biden might drop out "for personal reasons" and Hillary might step in?"
I've said the same thing for a week now Z! They're in trouble and they CANNOT ditch the top of the ticket. Biden will find a health problem very soon, which gives the dangerous shrew her shot.
Morgan
Great post, Z.
psi bond
wow i need to move in to this condo complex. just a joke z.... that would have been quite the sight. how about turning the tables. maybe you and mr. z can get a little naughty in front of them next time to see their reaction. ok another joke.. there is just so many "ways" to go with this... he he....to your point now. sex is natural, it is too bad it is not used in love though more than lust!!... good post!!
"Ten minutes later, my curiosity's getting the best of me (come ON, yours would have, too.....)"
i wouldn't have waited the 10 min. LOL. oh alright, i would probably have gone back, shamed at some point.
"Would I care if I knew she'd had sex in Ben's extra bedroom with this complete stranger after the party, I ask myself? The answer is "for me, no, what do I care?""
Yeah that's true, but like you i've grown up and the decisions in life have consequences. children grow up without fathers, babies are killed off for doing nothing but being conceived.
I loved this blog
Great job z....
That's terrible!
Are there any vacancies in your complex?
hermit and pat..you CRACKED me UP. I wondered how long it would take to get a "Hey, THAT's neat" comment! (Smile)
fj..the couple with the little girl are married...so rare, you're right. Think the girl in the pool will wait for a commitment before she decides the world needs another one of her?
shoprat...nice.
psi bond..thank you
TMW...that's what I felt at my nephew's recent wedding I blogged about...there was something beautiful and sacred going there. Will this girl feel that..ever?
I'm glad so many of you saw what I did in this situation....
Let's remember our little girls and boys today, 4 and 8 and 10 year olds and raise them better than this, and try to put better examples around them!! They deserve it.
Gardens, limitless, can expand
In a fertile and pleasant land.
For there beside a steamy pool
My Adam cleft me, no more the fool.
Climaxes measureless to man!
Oh, now I know how life began.
— Unraditional (psi bond)
oh, for God's sake, Psi bond, who the hell's against sex? If you think having sex five minutes upon meeting in someone else's pool with a clothed man watching is just fine.GREAT. More power to you.
That's what we're lamenting..people with little morals.
That's what we're lamenting..people with little morals.
Z, I lament people with too many morals–––an excess of morals–––that they want to bestow on other people. You ask innocently who’s against sex. I would answer that biblical fundamentalists are against sex for the pleasure of sex. I understand that their book of rules tells them sex is for reproductive purposes only. But you are right: Sex should not be like shaking hands; one should be properly introduced first–––for God’s sake :-)
You are right, Z: What this country needs is nationwide parenting schools to instill in parents their obligation to teach their kids to eschew premarital sex. Perhaps, Sarah and Bristol Palin can be induced to lend public support with a message that unavailability of condoms may lead to loveless marriages.
psi bond
psi bond, your brand of sarcasm is not welcome here any more than I enjoyed it at FPM.
You're woefully, happily, wrong about sex not meant to feel good..no Christian feels that way.
I'll be deleting unless you have something to add to the comments in constructive, interesting, non-insulting ways.
This is my blog, not a public place to show anyone's attempt at silly dreams of superiority.
I don’t have silly dreams of superiority, Z.
Frankly, I don’t feel anyone is inferior to me.
psi bond
Christians who go to church regularly may feel that sex is meant to feel good, but they publicly frown on engaging in sex purely for pleasure.
well, you're right about nobody being inferior to you, I'm sure.
As for Christians, you'd better become one before you say ridiculous things like that.
you don't seriously believe that wives and husbands who've either had their children or don't want children don't advocate sex for their pleasure, do you?
Please let us know where in the Bible it says anything about not having sex for pleasure. Start at Song of Solomon. thanks.
Though you assume the power to arbitrarily censor what I write here, I am also sure that no one is inferior to you.
Of course, I believe that many Christian married people with or without children do believe in sex for their own pleasure — but not for the pleasure of others unless they are properly married in accordance with their unyielding definition of marriage.
Have you heard a pastor passionately quote and preach from the Song of Songs (Song of Solomon)? If so, how long did he remain a pastor?
Most religious Christians condemn teenage sex and premarital sex. According to a Pew Research survey conducted February 16-March 14, 2007, 71% of white evangelicals say sexual relations before marriage are wrong. And of those who go to church weekly, 62% say that.
The problem is not the Bible per se but what its readers have found in it, which they propagate to whomever will listen
The Bible has severe things to say about disapproved methods of coupling that are practiced in the breach in contemporary Christian society:
Mat 5:32 (Sermon on the Mount): But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery
Lev 20:10: And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Lev 20:13: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them. .
Lev 20:21: And if a man shall take his brother's wife, it [is] an unclean thing: he hath uncovered his brother's nakedness; they shall be childless. .
psi bond
Ducky's right: "The yin & yang. It will always be thus."
And Hermit, too: "Any vacancies?"
But seriously, I don't know quite what to say as I think I can conjure up many hypothetical situations wherein a "Love At First Sight" kind of illusive thing urges prioritizing of that magic moment to spite the destruction of it that Time--and/or even the reality of daylight-- threatens.
And you make the stunning contrast between that illusion and daylight very well.
Z, you have a way of presenting simple situations (whether it be a story about someone leaving a small fishing community, or an observation of two people getting it on one night at a community pool) and triggering profundities. (the first story still haunts me.)
The children--new life, the next generation--are, in terms of God's Grace and Love, the fitting "morning after" result of such a powerful, primal urge (that, ideally, shouldn't be a bestial grunt-grunt kind of thing but more an exaltation and pouring out of the spirit for the very sake of the next generation of humans), and they are why marriage is formalized, purified, and glorified, as the fitting context for a new human to emerge from.
But they, children, had nothing to do with what you saw the night before--although they are Nature's reason for what you saw.
Indeed, there was nothing formal, pure, or glorious about a man acting like a dog and using a woman as a fire hydrant (even if she enjoyed it).
One could suppose, under the circumstances, that if the woman of the night before got impregnated, she would abort (to the man's relief), because it's not about the joy of children and Destiny, but the pleasure of the Moment itself to the participants (for tomorrow we die).
And so the contrast of the one-night stand (presumably) and the playing children the next day is striking.
But is that--i.e. the "hook-up"-- so wrong (for sooner or later, if not actually tomorrow, we do die)?
If it's consenting adults, with a powerful--even if fleeting--chemical attraction that makes Mother Nature demand copulation--why not indulge in that ASAP, as desired by both?
And let's just say, for argument's sake, that the "Love at First Sight" compulsion was a glimmer of the "real thing" and develops into a true, deep and lasting love, and, furthermore, if a pregnancy were to result, they get married.
And, for argument's sake, let's do away with the sleazy and shameless exhibitionism and/or carelessness and let's say that they were whispering and tried to be as discrete as possible without leaving the romantic setting (a lit pool at night has its magic), and that you weren't even there to see the dirty deed.
Like the philosophical question about the tree falling in the woods, and with the new, hypothetical conditions above (i.e. the attraction is deep and will blossom into love, they'll eventually get married, they're modestly discrete about it, etc,), would them getting it on still be wrong, in an existential sense?
Well, it would still be fornication, even if no other human was there to witness it.
And if so (i.e. it's still wrong), is it because of the church's condemnations against the original sin of fornication (i.e. intercourse not sanctioned by an official ceremony that's rubberstamped by Church & State)?
But the church gives us mixed messages on that.
On the one hand, as long as you get married first, God will--presumably--smile on the humping honeymooners (well, maybe not smile--or even look--but nevertheless will shower blessings down upon the properly wedded couple).
And the result is a child...
...who was "born in sin" (i.e. via copulation), and must be baptised to be purified. (!)
But wasn't the wedding ceremony enough to de-stigmatize the infant of the intercoursing sins of the parents?
Isn't the ecclesiastical purpose (or one of the purposes) of marriage a de-sinning of fornication?
And what about the same kind of couple meeting in Vegas but stopping the drive-through chapel first to get married before copulating, but then getting an anullment soon thereafter?
And let's say that, even though they were drunk, they really thought they were in love and not just trying to outsmart the morals game.
Was their copulation wrong? An honest mistake, sure, but "immoral"?
Perhaps a cynic is justified by suggesting that, once upon a time, the State was Church, and, like the State's tax-man today, kept itself in business then by regulating--and re-regulating--every aspect of life (and getting tithed for good measure), and, like the death tax, double-taxed the same sin?
I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, but those things should be thought through to arrive at a more comprehensive understanding of why what you beheld that night was just plain wrong (not to say that you don't understand why it is, only that exploring the morality is complex).
See what you provoked? Very good.
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