Saturday, May 25, 2013

"Are you being square with us, Mr. Shulman?"

First, for the record, Ex IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman is not a registered Republican or Democrat.  George W. Bush appointed him to this position in 2008.  Shulman is on record for having donated $500 to the Democrat party in 2004.

In November 2011, he said that “Beginning soon, the IRS will send letters to tax-return preparers who have been identified as high risk.”
“I certainly am not personally responsible for making a list that had inappropriate criteria on it. With that said, this happened on my watch, and I very much regret that this happened on my watch.”
In April 2010, Shulman said that his agents will target taxpayers' refunds in order to collect fines from those who don't buy health coverage via Affordable Health Care for America Act. In response to Republican arguments that the IRS would abuse their powers, he said he would not allow the IRS to be "too punitive." According the Congressional Budget Office, the fines would range from several hundred dollars to as much as 2.5% of household income.
Shortly after President Obama was re-elected in the 2012 presidential election, on November 11, 2012, Shulman finished his term as Commissioner.

He was at the White House 118 times in 2 years.  When asked for what reasons he was at the White House an apparently inordinate amount, his first response was for "the Easter Egg hunt with my kids..."  Seriously. At that hearing, the Easter Egg hunt is the first thing that came to his mind.  Oops.

The video says a lot, doesn't it.   And bravo to Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio. "Are you being sure you're being square with us, Mr. Shulman?"  And poor Shulman is dumbstruck and stammering throughout. 

Think he knows something?   Make sure you hear how many letters he got from Congressional members contacting him about 5109(c)4s (tax exemption for political groups) he doesn't seem to remember knowing about.



Joe said...

Watch his proverbial lips. If they move, he is lying.

How many times did he pretend he did not hear the question?

Was that, perhaps, to give himself time to come up with an answer that would suit his agenda?

His body language indicated that he was having trouble giving an honest response.

This guy is governmentus typicanus.

Thersites said...

This is the wrong question. The right question is, "How do we get rid of the IRS?"

beamish said...

If deficits don't matter, why collect taxes at all?

Anonymous said...

Don't ask. Don't tell.

That seems to be the way our leaders manage our government.

Mustang said...

A national budget should be apportioned to the states, not to the people. And the states should have a line item veto over federal stupidity.

My Conservative Values said...
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My Conservative Values said...

Obummer traded our freedom away for what others HE calls security. And you ASS-Hats who voted for him and went along with it are just as guilty. What a wonderful America you a-hole progressives created. You "liberals" and so-called “Progressive’s” don't value freedom. You fight to control and coerce people. You're authoritarians.
Yes, I know. You liberals were all upset that the government might be peeking at your library card, without you even knowing about it. But, you do not even seem upset that journalists are having their phone records and E-mails read, without them even knowing about it.

You don't seem to mind that Obamacare gives government total access to your medical records.

You don't seem to mind that the IRS and the Department of Labor are being used to target right wing groups.

But, you go right on telling us how much you value liberty.

A Soldier gets butchered on the streets of London, crowd watches in Horror. And no one has a gun or weapon? No one attempts to prevent this vicious bloody act of terror on the streets?
What? No private citizen is allowed to carry a licensed weapon?
What happened Wednesday in London was a perfect scenario of what will happen if Liberals have their way!
What would of happened to the terrorists if they attempted this stunt in a busy town in Texas?

Ed Bonderenka said...

Beamish said:
"If deficits don't matter, why collect taxes at all?"
My Cons Vals:
Careful. Sometimes people here think that those kinds of comments are pointed at the readers/commenters here instead of being more "rhetorical" and pointed at those to whom it actually applies.

Ed Bonderenka said...

My Cons Vals:
Also, while I want to grab people by the throat and shake them vigorously asking "How could you possibly have done this to us? What were you thinking, you traitorous, braindead scumbag?!?!?", I know that to do so would forever alienate them giving me no further opportunity to educate and enlighten them.

beamish said...


I too am "proud of my conservative values." You may recall we were begged to toss those aside and "vote for Romney anyway." I didn't.

The only concrete difference between the Obama administration and a potential Romney administration is that Obama is signing the bills to make Romney policies law.

Z said...

Joe, that "................excuse me..?" was classic. The congressman asks him a detailed, very clear question, and they just............"excuse me?"
Then, to mention the Easter Egg Hunt as the first reason for going to the White House? WOW.

beamish, good point, when you think of it....excellent point.

Of course, you're full of crap on the other comment.

Cons on Fire..BRILLIANT surmisal. Ya, they're not going to tell, we shouldn't ask, according to the leftwingers, right?

Mustang, explain that; interesting, I think...but I don't follow.

My Cons watch that barbarian with his red hands walking around telling the Western world off was UNBELIEVABLE. Think it made English blood boil or are they still in apologize mode?

Ed..."further opportunity to educate and enlighten" BRILLIANT, just brilliant:)

I just had the pleasure of watching my favorite WWII movie DESTINATION, is that excellent.
And I sat there wondering if our soldiers would be that great today. I think many would.
And I sat there also wondering about how a movie's actors could never say "Nips" anymore, no matter HOW realistic a film they were making. Or even celebrate the deaths of the Japanese they hit who were going to do us in at the time any way they possibly could.
It was clear the hated the Japanese soldiers and clear they had great courage and were willing to die for America.

that really got me thinking.
I think we're not allowed to hate moslem terrorists anymore........

after what happened at Ft Hood, the world's upside down. Score one (among others) hit on decency and righteousness for Obama.
Obama - 1, USA - O

then let's talk Benghazi and how it's clear to nearly every American (and European) now that diplomats aren't as protected as they were.
Obama -2, USA -0

Z said...

My point in posting this video and some of Shulman's amazing comments was how much he must know and we can't get to it.
118 visits to the White House is, apparently, a huge number of personal visits there. Okay, 116, if you don't count hunting Easter eggs with his kids...amazing, considering how Dems and Reps complain they can't get contact with Obama, huh?

He spent 1/5 of two years of business days at the White House. Seems a lot to me; you, too?
And, according to him, he never mentioned the 132 contacts he got from congress about the IRS/Conservative hits. Shulman tried to say that started in 2012, but Jordan had different information.
And 42 major news stories; was Obama not hearing the news stories? Didn't Shulman or anybody else tell Obama about the 132 inquiries from Congress?
"Are you sure you're being square with us, Mr. Shulman?"

Last year, he denied the IRS was doing any hitting on Cons. it's clear he was contacted so many, many times with inquiries about this!

"............excuse me?" Shulman says after perfectly clear questions.

Z said...

The AP's forgiven Obama already.

Interesting article, though I don't believe the economy, for the long run, is equipped to recover quite as beautifully and long-lastingly as AP suggests. I hope they're right.

See, "the GOP is just full of ethics stuff and what's really important is jobs."

They can lie to us, they can not protect our people or commit to our soldiers' wellbeing, they can spy on journalists, they can hit on conservatives at the IRS, run guns in Mexico, and that's okay as long as there are jobs?
Wait.....isn't that a little East German Stassi?

Anonymous T. Irrelevant said...

About a year ago his company was audited by TWO branches of the government in a truly coincidental...some say...obvious timing with his $1,000,000 donation to Romney.
Old The rest of the Story...this is haunting if you care about individual freedoms.
This man was audited ONCE in THIRTY YEARS...makes a donation, which lands him on the infamous "hit list" of the Obama campaign...he was AUDITED FIVE TIMES IN ONE YEAR. On the infamous list, eight people on the Obama campaign hit list...FIVE WERE AUDITED...none had any history of impropriety or audit history.

Obama has been a sleazy politician with the backing of a lot of sleazy liberals/commies for quite some time....long before he ran for the Presidency

Z said...

Anon. T I...that would be Frank Vandersloot you're speaking of, right?
Yes, he was audited and had to pay about $80K in legal fees because of it. AND , it turned out the irs owed him money!
This really is sleazy, isn't it.

Z said...

A French soldier has been attacked in more details than that but I think we know where this could go.

Gus said...

Police have made three more arrests in the brutal killing of British soldier Lee Rigby, Metropolitan Police said. (BBC) The men, in their 20s, were arrested Saturday evening and are being held on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder, police said.

beamish said...

Of course, you're full of crap on the other comment.

Your perspective is different, of course. You were among those asking conservatives to set aside their principles to vote for Romney. I suppose that's easy to do when you have no conservative principles to set aside.

Z said...

beamish..we've sung that song and I'm not doing it again here.
If you think Romney's as bad as Obama, that's FINE. You got what you wanted.
Sadly, now we ALL have to live with it.

Gus, hello! And the Brits appear not to be so happy. If anybody sees CNN cover the marching through parts of England against the terrorist attack, please let me know. I have been checking CNN from time to time and, so far, they're so honed in on the aftermath of the tornados that you'd think the IRS scandal, the AP scandal, and the Benghazi hearings haven't been happening. That's almost stunning.

Mustang said...

I’m not sure I can be succinct in my explanation of this, but I’ll give it a go. If you still don’t understand what I mean, just remember that I’m not all that smart.

I keep hearing people talk about their constitutional rights. How many even know that they wouldn’t have any constitutional rights, were it not for the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment? The Bill of Rights pertained only to states, not to the people. This is why each state has had to “incorporate” each of the rights outlined in the first ten amendments to the U. S. Constitution. A state that has not incorporated any of these rights denies them to their citizens. If this is clear, I can proceed…

The federal government conspired with errant states to pass another amendment allowing the federal government to tax the people. The amendment reads, “The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.” It is “unconstitutional” because the Constitution requires that taxes be apportioned to the states. Moreover, without this usurious amendment, the federal government does not have the authority to tax the people directly. My point (above) is that we should rescind the Sixteenth Amendment and return to a time when the federal government apportions it revenue burden to the states, and they in turn to the people. And I think the states should have line-item veto over federal apportionment as a check against a spendthrift Congress. It is one sure way to return to normalcy in our government, and to re-engage the states as the founding fathers intended at the outset.

Pris said...

beamish, I guess you think you're as pure as the driven snow, huh?

Do you think Romney would have used threats and intimidation on those who disagreed with him? Or, accuse Rosen, the reporter on Fox, of being a co-conspirator and try to eliminate Fox altogether?

Trash the Constitution?

Take our country down to being a third world banana republic purposefully?

Allow four Americans to be killed for political reasons?

Finally, over regulate our lives and take away our freedom bit by bit?

I could go on, but, I think these real examples speak volumes as to what is being done to America.

Anonymous said...


'just remember that I’m not all that smart."

Marines aren't required to "smart"...just the most badass, dependable guys they've always been.

"A state that has not incorporated any of these rights denies them to their citizens. If this is clear, I can proceed.."

So let me get this straight...theres about 10 states that deny their citizens their rights to the second amendment....Illinois being the most onerous followed by California now and almost the entire NE states. And these states were a part of the original 13 states that ratified the Bill of Rights and signed onto our first declaration of war....the Declaration of Independence.

Now...the Feds don't sue these states for blatantly violating the constitution...but they sue states that wish to enforce the federal laws against ILLEGAL immigration?

Since when did we the people become Mexico? Since when did we decide to import 20% of another countries garbage and make them citizens for a lousy few bucks in "fines"?

Being a citizen today....ain't what it used to be then. I thank God my Father, Uncles and many of the buds I lost in Nam...didn't live to see this selling out of our country.

Jeff Daniels had a take on was a script...but it sure as hell hit home.

Watch'll agree that:

America is not the greatest country in the world anymore...

Anonymous said...


And yes Z...they have a civilian Defense Force that are madder than hell....I hope there's some street justice done by their side...they look mighty pissed off.

And someone asked.."What would have happened if this were done in a Texas town"?

It'd be what I believe is inevitable anyway..."Cowboys and muslims".

Anonymous said...

"President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met in the Oval Office on Tuesday with three people who are in the country in violation of U.S. immigration laws but who have received “deferred action” allowing them to stay in the country under the terms of a “memorandum” issued unilaterally last year by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

While conceding that she had no legal authority to change the “immigration status” of illegal aliens or provide them with a “pathway to citizenship,” Napolitano instructed the top officials at Customs and Border Protection, Citizenship and Immigration Services, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement to use what she called “prosecutorial discretion” in not enforcing the immigration laws against certain classes of immigration lawbreakers."

Bis Sis...nappy skunk that she is...has to be the biggest fraud, fake and traitor ever in "charge' of our security.

I pary she's over come with a deadfish smell.

Mustang said...

@Impertinent … Actually, I think the most recent Supreme Court decision (McDonald v. Chicago, 2010) was a land mark case because in its decision, the high court stated that the Second Amendment is incorporated within all states because of the Due Process and Equal Protection clause of the 14th Amendment. I am still not certain whether selective incorporation remains valid in light of McDonald v. Chicago. But I already laid the predicate, so ….

Anonymous said...


"McDonald v. Chicago, 2010.."

Yes...I've been following that through the NRA....and they have a "law" that they have to implement by June. Now...every asswipe corrupt pol in Illinois is apoplectic and scheming to see how they can screw the citizens anyway. Make the fees too high...require a permit to get a permit then another permit to buy a gun...then a permit for each gun? Like the stinging sewer that New Jersey does?

Mustang...I'd love to see the crime rate plunge in Chicago when these scum-bags start getting it back from their prey.

Mustang said...

The only difference between Chicago thugs and Chicago police are police badges. I'm just not certain why anyone would choose to live in that god-forsaken place.

Anonymous said...

A bit of Unusual news:

"Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who for the past forty-seven years has served as a weekend scoutmaster for the Boy Scouts of America, angrily resigned from that position yesterday, effective immediately.

Justice Scalia quit his post in a terse resignation letter that read, in part:

“Some of the happiest memories of my adult life have been as a scoutmaster. Huddling under blankets around the campfire, and so forth. But now, all of that has been ruined. Ruined.”

Shortly after sending the letter, Justice Scalia destroyed his scoutmaster uniform in the blazing fireplace of his Supreme Court office."

I'm sure Kagan will volunteer to replace him...that's coming next...

Average American said...

Damn! With 132 letters from Congress, 118 White House visits and 42 news articles this guy still has no clue?? The old adage is correct, "tell the truth and you won't have to remember everything you ever said", or something close to that.

Shit, that asswipe was at the White House MORE than obummer!! He must not be a golfer!

Mustang said...

@ AA ... here's the fun part. Schulman is a Jew. Why is he attending the White House Easter Egg hunt? Hell, I could lie better than that when I was only six years old.

Law and Order Teacher said...

You hit it on the head. First, we need to remember that the states formed the federal government, not the other way around. After that what Mustang said makes sense. Remember that the amendments are guidelines and they require Supreme Court decisions and enacting legislation to make them apply.

For instance, the 18th Amendment was about Prohibition. It needed the Volstead Act to make it law. What would've happened had some or all of the states refused to enact it. Interesting. Not only should the 16th Amendment be repealed but so should the 17th.

Senators were meant to be ambassadors from the states to the federal government. U.S. Senators are no longer controlled by the states. The Progressive Era has been a stain on America.

Also I think a 28th Amendment should be passed that requires all legislation passed by congress apply to congress as it applies to their fellow citizens. That might cut down on the crap they pass.

Anonymous said...


"Why is he attending the White House Easter Egg hunt?"

He's a reformed Jew...they believe anything you tell them...even Santa Claus. Maybe the eggs had coins in them and he wanted to tax the kids take when it was over? Or file 1040's?

Anonymous said...


"After growing religious tensions between some Christian missionaries and local Muslims, the annual Arab International Festival in Dearborn has been canceled for this year, organizers said Friday.

The announcement left many disappointed that a small number of aggressive extremists could ruin what had become a tradition in the eastern section of Dearborn, which has a significant number of Arab Americans.

The city and organizers were facing increased insurance and liability costs because of the tensions and lawsuits over the festival. Last month, the City of Dearborn had proposed moving the festival to a park instead of the traditional location on Warren Avenue in order to decrease conflict."

That's all we had to do...fight back...and don't back down.

Mustang said...

You can't blame the Mohammedans. They only want to murder us all in our beds and institute Sharia Law. Give'em a break, will ya?

Average American said...

DUCKY!!! You were wondering why I called the IRS Gestapo a couple days ago and I just read your comments so I thought maybe since you haven't been here to this post yet you might see this. This is why:

Even you will be shocked by this.

Average American said...

" Last month, the City of Dearborn had proposed moving the festival to a park instead of the traditional location on Warren Avenue in order to decrease conflict."

If they're going to move it, why not move it to Syria or Afghanistan or some other third world shithole?

TSWS said...

@ Mustang

The IRS has Badges too, as do most all Depts. of The Gov.
What is happening now by the Obama sluts, is not new but more Bold, they think they have us down for the count. We are watching a complete attempt to over throw what little People's left.
Bubba rewrote the UCMJ giving Military Superiority over Civil Defense.
We don't have a chance for correcting wrongs by the Gov; unless we start making a LOUD RUCKUS, and make the Media Question why. Yes, we would be painted as Wacko Birds, but not letting up would make a dent in the timeline.
We are winning in that respect. They thought they had us several times before, but something or someone keeps knocking them back a while.

Anonymous said...


"The IRS has Badges too, as do most all Depts. of The Gov."

And they're usually armed...those IRS agents. Dweeb, pencil neck geeks, with pocket protectors... bureaucratic thieves with a gun...Good Lord. Now...have nothing to fear as they have become jack booted thugs...unafraid of even Congress.

Anonymous said...


"moving the festival..."

They're too afraid to say...HATE FEST".

"Festival" my glutus maximus.

Z said...

I've tried to say the same, not as eloquently, and he STILL thinks they're one and the same.

Z said...

Imp, the BRITS have a Civilian Defense force? Really?

Here's the problem; if anybody speaks out in Europe, the media here and there, will call them skinheads and be warning about the Fourth Reich. Wait for it.
They did that to LePenn who, admittedly, was VERY anti immigrant, but he proved to be right...even lefties finally didn't hate him so much; but he was absolutely castigated for 'hating'...

why don't people let people hate killers?

Gad, whoever invented Political Correctness should be drawn and quartered.

TSWS said...

Carney (fitting name) said the first day - spin, that the IRS is not a governmental entity, then all the sluts got on him to say they were part of the treasury.
Ha, some say-the HQ is in Costa-Rica.

Anonymous said...


"Imp, the BRITS have a Civilian Defense force? Really?"

I finally got the correct name of the group...the English Defense League...and yes they're all civilians...that just want to tear into the muslim thugs....and after reading some of the Brit papers...they just might. With lots of support.

Always On Watch said...

The AP's forgiven Obama already.

I expect the same from the other mainstream media, don't you?

One liberal blogger, an Obama supporter, actually said something along these lines about the recent scadals: "Obama must not fail. He's the first African-American President."

Z said...

oh, man, Always; as if the color of one's skin made one a better or worse leader.
Sometimes I think liberalism IS a 'mental disease'...I used to think that was an idiotic statement, but....

We're in jeopardy because people thought it was more important to have a black president than a good president. It'd be nice if we could have both!

Always On Watch said...

important to have a black president than a good president. It'd be nice if we could have both

Wouldn't it, though?

The pendulum may swing, and if it does, it will swing hard. I'm referring to race relations and what may well ensue if many Americans wake up to the fact that Obama has promoted corruption all through his administration. Blacks as a group will be targeted in that pendulum swings.

Z said...

Imp, I think the EDL has already been painted as SKINHEADS by their idiot media so they'll be demonized before they can do any good. I hope they can show they're just good English people sick of being pushed around.

TSWS; yes, that was amazing, that the president's spokesman didn't know where the IRS stood in government.

Z said...

Always! "Blacks will be targeted?"

How do you mean? I don't think that'll happen because most Americans know it's not Obama's skin that made him a bad president, it's his ideology and the horrid people he (and Jarrett) have picked for the WH.
I'm surprised at what you wrote...I know YOU wouldn't feel that way, but that you think this could happen is scary!

Z said...

By the way, Imp...I heard today that the biggest read paper in America now is England's Daily Mail....could that be true?
I mean, I know they tell OUR truth more and better than we do, but I am not sure Americans, other than Conservatives, really care about the truth anymore.
Have you heard this?

Always On Watch said...

Yes, most Americans know it's not Obama's skin that made him a bad president. But there still exists in many people a certain wariness about "the other," which is often race.

And we do know that over 90% of black voters voted for Obama. I know one black family who had supported Keyes, then gleefully voted for Obama and for the sole reason of the color of Obama's skin.

I also know this, at least in my own case: I don't ever discuss Obama with any of my black clients. Any criticism of him by me would be viewed as racist; I've overheard several things that lead me to so believe.

Has America reached that point that no person of color can be criticized simply because of race? I think that we may have. If I'm right, why do you think that this might be so? I'm interested in knowing your take on this.

Always On Watch said...

The UK's Daily Mail is a site that I recommend to my Current Events students. Just sayin'.

Mustang said...

Anyone who makes the claim that Obama’s skin rendered him an unsuccessful presidency is a complete idiot. It was his lack of character. Skin color is, well, only skin deep. A rotten character goes all the way to the soul.

Anonymous said...


"Has America reached that point that no person of color can be criticized simply because of race?"

Yup...ever since mexicans and moooslims became a race!

Anonymous said...

Not only should we & GB be implementing the Israeli profiling methods...the smartest policies in the world today are with...JAPAN!

"Japan is a country keeping Islam at bay.
Japan has put strict restrictions on Islam and ALL Muslims.
The reasons are:

a) Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims.

b) In Japan permanent residency is not given to Muslims.

c) There is a strong ban on the propagation of Islam in Japan.

d) In the University of Japan, Arabic or any Islamic language is not taught.

e) One cannot import a 'Koran' published in the Arabic language.

f) According to data published by the Japanese government, it has given temporary residency to only 2 lakhs, Muslims, who must follow the Japanese Law of the Land. These Muslims should speak Japanese and carry their religious rituals in their homes.

g) Japan is the only country in the world that has a negligible number of embassies in Islamic countries.

h) Japanese people are not attracted to Islam at all.

I) Muslims residing in Japan are the employees of foreign companies.

j) Even today, visas are not granted to Muslim doctors, engineers or
managers sent by foreign companies.

k) In the majority of companies it is stated in their regulations that no Muslims should apply for a job.

l) The Japanese government is of the opinion that Muslims are fundamentalist and even in the era of globalization they are not willing to change their Muslim laws.

m) Muslims cannot even think about renting a house in Japan.

n) If anyone comes to know that his neighbor is a Muslim then the wholeneighborhood stays alert.

o) No one can start an Islamic cell or Arabic 'Madrasa' in Japan

p) There is no Sharia law in Japan.

q) If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then she is considered an outcast forever.

r) According to Mr. Kumiko Yagi, Professor of Arab/Islamic Studies at Tokyo University of Foreign Studies, "There is a mind frame in Japan that Islam is a very narrow minded religion and one should stay away from it."

s) Freelance journalist Mohammed Juber toured many Islamic countries after 9/11 including Japan. He found that the Japanese were confident that extremists could do no harm in Japan.

My personal estimation of the Japanese has risen dramatically!


Inscrutable...I'd wager. And a reason we don't see any muslim bullshit and violence in Japan too.

Z said...

Imp, that's all true? HOW INTERESTING...

Wait till you hear this: I was filling out a form for a new teacher the other day and the race choices were something like SOUTH PACIFIC, ASIAN, BLACK, ARMENIAN.

ARMENIAN? Are they THAT stupid in our governmental agencies requiring this information that they think Armenians aren't Caucasians? MY GOSH!

Average American said...

Evidentially Japan is the smartest country on the planet. They've come a long way since they made the huge mistake of attacking us!

Oh, by the way, does anyone know why Japan never tried to attack our shores?

Because the population was well-armed! They knew better.

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Anonymous said...


"that they think Armenians aren't Caucasians? MY GOSH!"

Just the same as those who are convinced that Latino or Hispanic are another race...and not Caucasian.

First they say you're a racist if you don't necessarily like George Zimmerman...then the press magically made him White..Which he is...but 1/2 Hispanic ( mother is Peruvian ) WTF???