Please read THIS ARTICLE! It's an amazing article showing the percentages of Arabs/Turks, etc., who are enamored with Obama and who are not. I was STUNNED.The paragraph below is THE most important paragraph of the whole thing, in my opinion. Who knew Arabs (many of them Muslim) wouldn't like or admire Obama's infidelity to America any more than Conservative Americans do? I'm quite impressed with this paragraph:
"Steeped in an overarching idea of American guilt, Mr. Obama and his lieutenants offered nothing less than a doctrine, and a policy, of American penance. No one told Mr. Obama that in the Islamic world, where American power is engaged and so dangerously exposed, it is considered bad form, nay a great moral lapse, to speak ill of one's own tribe when in the midst, and in the lands, of others.
The crowd may have applauded the cavalier way the new steward of American power referred to his predecessor, but in the privacy of their own language they doubtless wondered about his character and his fidelity. "My brother and I against my cousin, my cousin and I against the stranger," goes one of the Arab world's most honored maxims. The stranger who came into their midst and spoke badly of his own was destined to become an object of suspicion.
Oh, yes, Arabs.....we know. We, too, find him QUITE an 'object of suspicion', yet, if we Conservativ
I'd like to thank very much my good friend K for emailing me this information...She's my Cub Reporter Extraordinaire! xxx (Love you, K!)
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49 comments:
Yeah, the left pretty much hates him too.
Ducky, yes... I do think they're finally seeing the light (how could ANYBODY have voted for a guy who so blatantly lied so often in the campaign? I mean, all of them lie a bit, or exaggerate, but this guy "didn't know Ayers", remember? "we just live in the same neighborhood" and that's only ONE provable, obvious lie!!!)...but I also think that they hate Obama because he's not left ENOUGH.
I can't admire that because it's so far from the America most of us want to see....BUT, even lefties are seeing that Obama's hurting THEM now (later mammograms, no swine flu shots for White kids but our Hispanic cleaning ladies get them at no price, terror trials in a city many libs live in ..not in MY city you don't! this affects ME!.......no transparency he'd promised...etc etc etc. This can't last...and he isn't going to win more of ridiculous far-left base over tomorrow night, either, TRUST ME.
This ARAB statement really gives me hope...REAL 'hope'. There seems to be a dignity and respect in this Arab dissing of Obama for his having dissed America so blatantly and often on foreign soil; There's a code of propriety I think can be worked with...I hope some Republican plays on that and magnifies it and speaks to the Arabs with this in mind.
z, how could anyone vote for him?
You forget that the right put up a mentally ill martinet and a lap dancer.
As most predicted , Obama has turned into a right of center marshmallow.
Be of good cheer because the left is probably just opting out of the next election. They'd just as soon let Palin have it and have the country just completely go to hell and get what it deserves.
I AGREE about McCain, that's for sure, Ducky.
But who votes ONLY for "anything but someone else"? Why would anybody vote for a blatant liar with absolutely zero experience and the ego of a Greek Column? That's always puzzled me.
If you had your druthers, Ducky, who would you vote for today?
Ralph Nader? Dennis Kusinich?
"No one told Mr. Obama that the Islamic world, where American power is engaged and so dangerously exposed, it is considered bad form, nay a great moral lapse, to speak ill of one's own tribe when in the midst, and in the lands, of others."
I will be copying this quote to my Facebook. I think many people need to read what this man has spoken.
Finally, eyes are being opened!!!
You miss the point, z. The political system in America is teats up.
Let 'er go down. We get the government we deserve. As long as we are stuck with the dysfunctional two party "system" there is no hope at all.
His hubris is destroying him and hopefully he will take the whole left down with him, permanently this time.
"As most predicted , Obama has turned into a right of center marshmallow."
goodness, ducky, just where do you draw the line for the center?!?
and you're right, z, that IS the most important paragraph in the whole article. they, like many of us, know that if you're willing to speak against your own then you cannot be trusted to hold faith with the strangers.
No, Ducky, the divide in this country is what's made us 'teats up'.. not the system.
Even Bill Gates waxed eloquent on capitalism yesterday on Meet the Mess...
(hey, that's pretty good :-) if I do say so myself)
If you mean the horrible voting fraud by leftist groups like ACORN, yes, that does damage our political system, no doubt about it.
It's a fight between Americans who know the constitution and want to stick to it and those who are indoctrinating our kids and cruelly clawing away at anything the founding fathers held near and dear.
It'll be a battle, but it's not teats up...unless the kids are as badly indoctrinated as I honestly think they are, thanks to the left.
Leticia, good idea to put that on your Facebook...let's GET the word OUT there.
Shoprat, I hope you're right.
Heidianne..I'm indebted to you...we all are, for bringing that to our attention. GREAT job.
I have to wonder if they really are anti-Obama for speaking against America or if they are against him for not being more of a lackey for them. I don't think they hold us to the same standards as themselves. I don't think they view us in the same light.
we shall see Z!..lets pray he gets voted out without Acorn corrupting it all!
Z, see my newest blog, I think you’ll find it very interesting.
But wait a minute! I thought his royal highness, President BO, had thought it all through and had come up with "truths" that are far beyond the intelligence of the average American when it comes to softening America's image abroad.
Ooops! I guess not.
"My brother and I against my cousin, my cousin and I against the stranger," goes one of the Arab world's most honored maxims.
Like I said before... endogamous. The West values exogamy, and so n'er in the twain shall the two cultures meet (and/or live together in peace).
An Arab's #1 wife will (9x out of 10x) be his father's elder brother's daughter. And he'll only take wives #2-4 if he has to keep his other cousins from slitting his throat.
Fj...can you explain the exogenous comments and how they'd relate in plain speaking to US?
Excellent article. Appeasement and a gaudy show of weakness has never won the day throughout history. What an egocentric narcissist we have as president.
Wow....very interesting!
I had no idea that the Arabs felt the same way about Obama. His diplomacy "attempts" has always been a slap in American's face.
What I don't understand is why so many of the left are so surprised? Didn't he say the same things while he was running for president? When will people learn to look at a candidates voting records and actions when they weren't trying to get elected to something? That is the only reliable way to see what a person who is seeking office is really like, IMO.
Fj...can you explain the exogenous comments and how they'd relate in plain speaking to US?
Sure
Animal species adopt reproductive strategies. Through human cultural practices and norms (ie -Sharia law) Middle Easterners have adopted and codified an endogamous one, whilst Westerners have codified a largely exogamous one.
In order to create a viable "plural" civil society, Plato has stated (Statesman) that the people must be willing to be "woven together" though inter-marriage, thereby mixing their cultural values. But "endogamous" societies refuse to inter marry or adopt new cultural values.
It's like the antebellum USA... the races were prohibitted from inter marrying. Now that THAT law has been done away with, Americans of all races and colors can form a plural civil society... only many Moslem's are sticking to themselves and their "ethnic enclaves" and refusing to join us in creating a plural civil society through inter-marriage.
The only reason for endogamy and Islam's success to date are their polygamous marital practices, which are useful in forming the familial alliances they need when conquering other tribes (ala Rape of the Sabine Women) and forming defensive alliances.
When Osama bin Laden moved back to Afghanistan before the US invasion, he intermarried several of his children with Taliban chieftans.
Endogamy. Many of Osama's sons and daughters are now Taliban.
America could conquer Afghanistan tomorrow if every US Marine in country married four Afghan women... after all, then we'd be "family" and we'd be staying there PERMANENTLY.
Remember when al Qaeda forces in the Sunni triangle of Iraq were taking the daughters of Sunni chieftans as wives and threatening the local chieftans with their demise? Islamic endogamous polygamy in action... you're family, you've GOT to fight on my side.
btw - Holding a tribal chieftan's daughter hostage is a GREAT way to pacify the locals. Ask Capt. John Smith and Pocahontas.
It also almost sounds "respectable" if you've "promised marriage".
Of course, if you want to keep your daughter from being so utilized, you dress her up in a tent so that no one could ever possibly find her attractive and take her from you. After all, your daughters are all promised to your brother's sons in marriage...
Just like Aeschylus 50 Danean "Suppliant Maidens" pursued to Argos by the 50 cousin "sons of Aegyptus".
Plato, "Statesman"
STRANGER: Can we say that such a connexion as this will lastingly unite the evil with one another or with the good, or that any science would seriously think of using a bond of this kind to join such materials?
YOUNG SOCRATES: Impossible.
STRANGER: But in those who were originally of a noble nature, and who have been nurtured in noble ways, and in those only, may we not say that union is implanted by law, and that this is the medicine which art prescribes for them, and of all the bonds which unite the dissimilar and contrary parts of virtue is not this, as I was saying, the divinest?
YOUNG SOCRATES: Very true.
STRANGER: Where this divine bond exists there is no difficulty in imagining, or when you have imagined, in creating the other bonds, which are human only.
YOUNG SOCRATES: How is that, and what bonds do you mean?
STRANGER: Rights of intermarriage, and ties which are formed between States by giving and taking children in marriage, or between individuals by private betrothals and espousals. For most persons form marriage connexions without due regard to what is best for the procreation of children.
YOUNG SOCRATES: In what way?
STRANGER: They seek after wealth and power, which in matrimony are objects not worthy even of a serious censure.
YOUNG SOCRATES: There is no need to consider them at all.
STRANGER: More reason is there to consider the practice of those who make family their chief aim, and to indicate their error.
YOUNG SOCRATES: Quite true.
STRANGER: They act on no true principle at all; they seek their ease and receive with open arms those who are like themselves, and hate those who are unlike them, being too much influenced by feelings of dislike.
YOUNG SOCRATES: How so?
STRANGER: The quiet orderly class seek for natures like their own, and as far as they can they marry and give in marriage exclusively in this class, and the courageous do the same; they seek natures like their own, whereas they should both do precisely the opposite.
YOUNG SOCRATES: How and why is that?
STRANGER: Because courage, when untempered by the gentler nature during many generations, may at first bloom and strengthen, but at last bursts forth into downright madness.
YOUNG SOCRATES: Like enough.
STRANGER: And then, again, the soul which is over-full of modesty and has no element of courage in many successive generations, is apt to grow too indolent, and at last to become utterly paralyzed and useless.
YOUNG SOCRATES: That, again, is quite likely.
STRANGER: It was of these bonds I said that there would be no difficulty in creating them, if only both classes originally held the same opinion about the honourable and good;—indeed, in this single work, the whole process of royal weaving is comprised—never to allow temperate natures to be separated from the brave, but to weave them together, like the warp and the woof, by common sentiments and honours and reputation, and by the giving of pledges to one another; and out of them forming one smooth and even web, to entrust to them the offices of State.
FJ, thanks...perfectly explained. (even I get it :-)
What I see in this is that one who turns against his own people, cannot be trusted, by anyone.
Obama gains no respect if he will disdain his own.
It doesn't make the Islamic threat less dangerous, but it's a matter of them respecting even their enemy.
They respect strength and loyalty. Especially of commanders of armies. Obama has neither.
Ducky, Obama's a left wing marshmallow surrounded by fellow thugs who do the dirty work.
His weakness is his achilles heel. It's a personal failing, which has nothing to do with his political beliefs.
Like most dictators, he's a cowardly man who relies on others to keep him safe, and help him win.
But, he knows that's not enough, so he vacillates and is indecisive
trying to judge which way the wind is blowing today. And it shows.
Perhaps it's as simple as, you can't trust a narcissist, because in the end, it's all about him, and he's caught between a rock and a hard place.
Pris
FT..is WHO "Saying"??
Pris,
"They respect strength and loyalty. Especially of commanders of armies. Obama has neither."
You more eloquently and perceptively hit on what I was trying to get at...there's a certain 'honor' about what they said; Perhaps the juxtaposition of them on this subject of faithfulness to one's one and Obama struck me so hard it made THEM LOOK honorable (imagine?)
Good comment
For the record:
I never say "my" president.
I never heard that, until Phil Donohue uttered it on TV ages ago.
Whether we like him or not, he's OUR president. We are ALL stuck with him.
But I believe he was PLACED in the office. He was not truly ELECTED. The election was a sham.
The outcome of these things is decided in the Halls of Power by people few know. Most of them are not even Americans.
~ FreeThinke
So, mongrelization of the races is the secret of successful conquest? Yes.
Compare it to its' alternative, the creation of liebensraum. None of the 3rd Reich's conquests or territorial claims lasted nearly as long as the infusion of Sudenten German's into neighboring lands did prior to its' rise and subsequent fall.
Races are merely the visible effects of locally successful environmental survival adaptations translated into genetics. A "pure" race (ie - Aryan) would limit mankinds ability to adapt to varying environmental conditions.
Outbreeding trumps inbreeding for maximizing genetic variation and environmental adaptability.
Unless you enjoy having a Vitamin D deficient pale skin.... and getting sunburns every week in equatorial latitudes.
The great advantage that Osama bin Laden has in Afghanistan/Pakistan are all his "foreign fighters" recruited from the ranks of 2nd/3rd sons seeking their fortunes in foreign lands. They each marry 3 or 4 local Pakistani/Afghani girls, create "taliban family ties", have twenty-thirty kids, and send their sons off to fight jihad and "restore the caliphate".
...and if their disobedient daughters don't go along and marry who they are told to marry, they kill them (honor killings). If their sons rebel and adopt a "different" religious faith, they kill the apostates. After all, when you have 20-30 kids from 4 wives, what's it mean to kill a couple to keep the rest in line? Allah is generous and rewards his servants with plentiful children...
If you mean the horrible voting fraud by leftist groups like ACORN, yes, that does damage our political system, no doubt about it.
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I'll simply remind you that ACORN was never accused of voter fraud. The issue was voter registration and the fact that you don't know the difference is indicative of the superficial reasoning we have in the country.
Get ready, z, it's going down. The American century is over. Flat out over.
Once again I read here that Obama is somehow a man of the left and I ask again for examples. Let's look at his record:
1. Afghanistan/Iraq -- He's going to be throwing away more money in Afghanistan to the delight of the right. Just what don't you like?
2. Israel -- He let's Nuttyyahoo do whatever he likes regarding settlements and issues a few harsh words for show. What's your issue?
3. Economy -- Larry "Bagman" Summers is still in charge. The Wall Street players have whatever the like and the stimulus money is largely unspent. Hardly a leftist agenda although there are, I suppose, some Randoids who would have rather seen the economy completely torched.
4. Gays -- Always an issue with my evangelical rethren. Has he repealed don't ask don't tell? No, and it isn't likely.
5. Health care -- The final bill looks as if it will not have any public option but will push a lot of people into insurance company coverage and fatten their profits. No cost containment. A big nothing.
6. Education -- He's pushing charter schools. Does that upset the right?
Now other than the fact that you have a desperate need to whine for the sake of whining, what do you see that is remotely leftist here.
3. Economy -- Larry "Bagman" Summers is still in charge.
All in good time, mr. ducky...as Thomas Sowell sagely observed today in his column, somebody will have to pay the voters with his head for Obama's economic misteps in the days leading up to the 2010 election, if not Summers, then Tim Geithner's head will roll for "failing to execute His Heinousness' theoretically infallible socialist policies."
0kay, Ducky...alert the RNC, I'm sure they'll be thrilled we have a Republican president in the WHite House after all.
By the way, he wasn't as soft on Netanyahu as you've suggested..not even close.
As for Charter Schools....maybe he'll finally send Malia or Sascha to a non-swanky private school now, huh?
As for Afghanistan, he's ticking his far left base off but at least he's finally doing ALMOST the right thing.
Farmer, that is fascinating. Larry Summers and his cabana boy Geithner are socialists?
Now they will throw Timmy under the bus but to call Larry Summers an instrument of socialist economic is an example of why Sowell is considered an ass.
There was a great article about Summers' stay at Harvard and how he was doubling down the endowment money on derivatives and took an incredible bath. To say he is interested in anything but reflating the bubble and bringing bon temps roulez back to Wall St. is insane.
Hell, they haven't spent over half the stimulus money. The dough has all gone to the Street. I swear, Sowell is so freaking dumb I can't figure out how he finds his own way home.
mr. ducky,
The major DNC failsto date, aka- Obamacare and Porkulus II, were all Barrack's socialist initiatives, not Geithner's or Summers'. The boys at the Fed and Treasury are the only ones currently keeping the Democrats in the headlines instead of the funny papers... so its' only right that THEY will have to be thrown under the bus as the "source" of all of the economy's problems. After all, every good NY edumacated socialist knows that the only thing currently holding America back is its' faulty "capitalist distribution system"...
As a Wyoming educated socapitalist, I know the only thing dragging America back are the moron millions manipulated into obstructing every progressive move toward reform and into helping their manipulators pick their own pockets.
Stan,
I see the white coats at Bellevue finally restored your internet privledges. Congrats.
Yas, but when are the special ed teachers at your grade school going to teach you to spell?
It could be quite a while, I'm afraid. Government priorities being what they are, the teachers are justifiably more preoccupied with attempting to instill some basic logic skills into the more seriously deficient mental cases like your own, or those of other self-labelled "progressive" readers of Daily Kos, MoveOn and/or the HuffPo than correcting the minor typos and spelling errors of functioning adults. Of course, the Democrats ARE in charge now, and those priorities could chase at a moment's notice.
I'll let you know if that ever happens.
That must make some kind of sense...to those "special" conservative (backward) minds. Decades out of school, he still hasn't mastered common words because his teachers spent all their time teaching him basic logic.
Apparently he failed at that, as well.
Thank goodness my parents gave up on my learning anything from a unionized democrat-voting teacher in the public school system long ago, or I'd likely be misplaced in some Remedial Logic class with you and all your political kind, Brokeback Boy. But don't worry, I'm sure they'll eventually give all of you the de rigueur "social promotions" your kind so richly deserve.
....of course, it would be nice if you all could learn a little logic first. Either that, or at least enough math to realize that you don't "solve" a health care "cost problem" by increasing its' cost 10-13% and billing the taxpayers for the revised balance.
Now other than the fact that you have a desperate need to whine for the sake of whining, what do you see that is remotely leftist here.
While true that Obama hasn't set up collectivized agricultural labor camps or started rounding up Jews for the ovens yet, but it took the left-wing German labor activist Adolf Hitler five years to implement that. No need to hold out on calling Obama a leftist until the bodies start falling.
You're surprised that muslims are conservative?! If you Islam hating bigots had grown up in the mideast, you'd be right wing muslims...and vice versa...you are interchangeable with them.
Oh well that's so cute! Makes me want to punch you in the face and chide you not to continue the "cycle of violence" when you're spitting teeth off the side of the curb.
Make sure to try to open a dialogue with us when we come to cut your head off, Stanley. ;)
Hell, they haven't spent over half the stimulus money. The dough has all gone to the Street. I swear, Sowell is so freaking dumb I can't figure out how he finds his own way home.
You really ought to figure out what your position is, Ducky. There's no need to continue building the case for your imbecility by making dipshit remarks about your betters. You firmly established that you're an imbecile the first time you insisted that you represent the left.
On one day you say the stimulus spending was needed to save the banks and a great financial banking crisis was averted by the government, on another day you say the stimulus hasn't been spent (the "great financial banking crisis" averted itself?)
Your breath would smell better if you'd stop talking out of your ass.
But, don't stop being an imbecile just for me. There's bound to be someone out there that needs your stupidity to readily identify you as a leftist.
the only thing the left hasn't done is strap on vest bombs...just give them time.
WOW< Elbro, what a super list. That's a hugely worthy blog post in itself..thanks for that.
xxx
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