I watched 10 minutes of msnbc tonight...on 9/11.
From Condi Rice talking about possible warnings about airplanes hitting buildings....
to showing grandparents talking about how adorable their grandchildren who died were......
to how the airlines didn't have enough to go on so they couldn't act.
Message: The administration really screwed up and those adorable grandchildren would be alive today...if only...........
NO MENTION of the airline ticket agent shown on CNN an hour ago, saying he feels SUCH guilt for not having followed one of the hijackers farther than he did after checking him in. He said something in his guts told him there was something wrong, but he worried that people would think he was profiling.
msnbc didn't catch that.
Damn them. And, by the way........was Condi Rice to shut all airports down until they were 100% no hijackings could occur? I've always wondered how the left justifies bashing her for not having acted on warnings when they also bash anybody who profiles.
Go figure.
I'l say "Damn them", too, while I'm in the mood.
z
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Z, what the left ignores is Clinton knew this was a threat and ignored it. They're idiots.
Chuck, IMAGINE msnbc leaving out the profiling part? Ya, Condi was supposed to shut down ALL air traffic till the end of time..till we were 10000% nobody'd hijack a plane?
what idiotic naivitee....
and yes, Clinton ignored it, too.......but the Bush people MUST PAY.
Even as the people demanding payments ignore that profiling might have saved America FROM 9/11.
Let me just say DAMN THEM again..it feels good :-)
We were supposed to stop passengers on a watch list who were manifesting classic suspicious behavior.
These guys had plenty going on beyond being Arab and there was procedure in place.
You're one of the few that still tries to defend that mediocrity Condo Rice, z.
The aftermath of 9/11 has taught us one thing about the left's thinking:
They actually believe fighting wars in Islamic countries will result in the creation of terrorists among people we should never profile at the airport.
And just how many freakin' warnings were including along with those about the airplanes. I still can't believe people think some generic warning received prior to 9/11 were just ignored by either administration. If every President and their administration attempted to preempt every warning they received, we would just simply cease to function as a society.
I still like to imagine what Obama's reaction was in his first briefing, held before he had taken the oath of office, sitting beside President Bush.
Ya have to believe his eyes widened and he was secretly saying, "Holy Shit, what did I just get myself into?" THAT's why he didn't shut down Gitmo, THAT's why he hasn't removed the troops in Afghanistan or Iraq like he promised the left he would do.
I can just imagine him now thinking, "Geez, being President is HARD." As my mother used to say, "No shit Sherlock." (Excuse my language, just no way to express my feelings today without it.)
Z: The solution to your stomach acid problem is to NOT watch MSNBC. I don't know of any program on that channel that does news. it is opinion stuff all the time.
Recent peer reviewed studies reveal the bias of most of the large media outlets, especially MSNBC, is radically to the left. You don't have to watch stupid people say stupid things.
Most interesting, another study showed that since Fox News started, the entire news industry has been forced to be more conservative. How about that? Fox spotted an untapped market, and has gone on to dominate the cable outlets, and outstrip most network outlets since.
The other news outlets are desparately trying to compete, meaning nobody believes the crap channels like MSNBC dish out on a daily basis.
Both Condi and Bush ignored multiple warnings which may have led to thwarting 911 (like Clinton did with the millennium bomber). Clinton tried to meet with Bush about Al Queda. He blew him off.
So Bush plays cowboy on his ranch while the world burned.
Ducky "These guys had plenty going on beyond being Arab and there was procedure in place."
If there was a procedure in place, then Condi isn't to be blamed, right?
By the way, I'm not a huge COndi fan; sorry to disappoint you; I don't judge people with broad brushes.
Also, READ THE POST: to hear that ticket agent admit he wanted to stop one of the hijackers and even followed him a few steps out of the area but was afraid to be criticized for PROFILING......we could have had no 9/11 had the idiot left scared everybody to death.
It's time we put US first...no need to hurt anybody, just DOUBLE CHECK. And, there's no need to jump to some ridiculous nasty conclusion and accuse anybody of hate again, Ducky....the point is he could have stopped this guy...
and he felt fearful. PC rearing its ugly leftwing head.
Bd!!! I love you coming here! COMIC RELIEF! Clinton, who could have got bin Laden but was GOLFING, according to his Secret Service, warned BUSH?
OH MY GOD!
LINK LINK LINK....and nothing from your idiot leftwing stuff, okay? You are hilarious! thanks!
How's about reading the posts and the comments...you really HONESTLY COULD learn something!
Bob, believe me, I don't make a habit of sitting through msnbc much, but I feel it's important to hear just how whacked some Americans really are.
Wait till tomorrow's post; you'll flip out.
And yes, I've noticed that CNN's actually having a few conservatives on but they're people like Buchanan on the war (they know he was anti IRaq ..msnbc has him on, too, for that reason...a Conservative on THEIR SIDE on a subject is fun:-)
FOX, of course, has had liberals on the staff since it opened....and they're on all day and lead discussions, but "FOX IS BIASED!" :-)
Hey BD I heard Clinton held a meeting and showed a power point on Bin Laden. So spare us pointing the finger at Rice.
Z I actually had a lefty claim that Clinton did more because he ordered pizza and had a meeting.
You can't make this stuff up.
Clinton did blow up that milk factory.
As the 9/11 commission noted there was wall between agencies. They were unable to share info from FBI to CIA and vice versa. So there were things that were missed.
Both agencies computers were to out of date that they couldn't even email photos or attachments.
If there was a procedure in place, then Condi isn't to be blamed, right?
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Individually maybe not, but she certainly could have issued an alert.
One way, paid in cash, no bags, Arab and on a watch list. Why the bleep weren't these people being flagged when a briefing warning about an attack using commercial aircraft had been issued?
The woman was ineffective. Remember that trip she made to the Middle East and everyone refused to speak to her? She was a joke.
Kept telling Mubarak it was time to leave, well as it turns out ...
Chuck, CLinton was not in office then was he? Are you saying the Clinton Admin knew about this potential threat, but that they did not share it with Bush?
Or are you saying that they did, and Bush did not act?
EIther way, if Clinton knew, which you assert, then either Bush also knew and did not act, or he did not know because his admin was not smart enough to figure it out.
Which is it?
"Kept telling Mubarak it was time to leave, well as it turns out ..."
Yes, Ducky...turns out Condi was ahead of her time.
Not like Obama, come to think of it, who was (might still be?) "a HEAD of his time"? :-)
Elbro,yes, he DID do that....there IS that :-)
The best thing about Monday morning quarterbacking is, you always win the game.....
It's so easy, after the fact, to say they coulda, shoulda and didn't.....
We were supposed to stop passengers on a watch list who were manifesting classic suspicious behavior.
Well, Ducky, the terrorists picked Boston, Massachusetts as a departure point because of the statistical likelihood that the local security staff at the airport would have trouble out-performing a can of Play-Doh on a IQ test.
How many years did Al Gore scream and rant and get all super-serial about inadequate security at Boston-Logan before 9/11? Over a decade, at least.
Ya, Scotty, but really......to think leftwingers apparently think Condi should have closed all airports until we were sure of terrorism's end?
:-)
Bush/Rice/Cheney/Rummy dropped the ball and ignored multiple warnings.
Ya, Scotty, but really......to think leftwingers apparently think Condi should have closed all airports until we were sure of terrorism's end?
:-)
Yeah, I know but, wadda ya gonna do? Sometimes ya just can't fix stupid!
Dave and Bd, Clinton knew and did nothing. You idiots like to rant and rave about the Bush recession, why don't we hear about Clinton's 9/11?
You try to let Clinton hide behind telling Bush about the danger. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't.
The real question though is why was it still a problem when Bush entered office?
If Clinton knew about the problem, and there is a strong indication he did, why didn't he take care of it?
As to Condi Rice, would you like to compare the shape the world was in when she left to the shape it is in after almost 3 years of Hillary Clinton?
Chuck "As to Condi Rice, would you like to compare the shape the world was in when she left to the shape it is in after almost 3 years of Hillary Clinton?"
Shockingly excellent observation
Best not to watch such trash anymore. Just a waste of time.
I was switching channels yesterday and saw some program about 9/11, soon as i heard someone waffling about the imperialist America i switched channels. I have better things to do that watch such trash.
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