Friday, November 19, 2010

BODY SCANNER company....wait till you read THIS!

A man named Deepok Chopra (apparently, not 'that' Deepok, by the way) is CEO of the big airport body scanning (and he's supposedly divested himself of the stock...why?)?   Isn't it AMAZING that Homeland Security's recommending the scans? (yes, a bit of sarcasm there) :-)  Read THIS link.

OH, and......check out this paragraph from the link!
A look at OSI Systems, Inc., including its Rapiscan subsidiary identifies Deepak Chopra as the president and CEO. Chopra, individually and through his PAC, has been identified as a significant donor to the Democratic party, including contributions to the campaigns of Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton. It should come as no surprise, then, to learn that he accompanied President Obama and his royal entourage by invitation on his recent trip to India to promote further trade between the two countries. The trip was paid for by U.S. tax dollars.  
(that's a REAL full body scan in the image!!)

So, interesting stuff, huh?  I urge you to read the link..........we are so getting duped.$$$  But SOME (liberals) are SURE getting rich.   I had pointed out to me by Joe at Jo-Joe Politico Blog that Soros seems to have dumped 12000 shares of stock recently.  WHY?  Was he afraid that he'd been seen as AGAIN involved in something that enrichens him and bugs most of America?  I wonder why he would...just when DHS is demanding them$$.  Or, is he smart enough to smell the stockinged feet at airports and realize we aren't going for these machines after all?  Curious. I'd bet it's the first.....he's trying to hide.

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeZ

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes they are getting rich --filthy rich, but please understand. This is so they can look down their noses at everyone else and demand that we obey the government, which they control, and who knows best.

Now what don't you understand about this? Hummmm????

Always On Watch said...

It might be a "different" Chopra. See this, which shows a photo of the investor named Chopra.

I'm not surprised at all that Soros is an investor.

Always On Watch said...

From the article:

former DHS secretary Michael Chertoff and co-author of the U.S. Patriot Act took to the airwaves to lobby for the placement of the nuclear scanners at all airports.

Thought that I'd mention the above before Duck quacks about it.

Always On Watch said...

Some people -- perhaps a lot of people -- will react to this scanner-or-subject-to-groping mess by not flying anymore.

How much of a financial hit can the airlines and the airport businesses (shops, shuttles, taxis, food services, etc.) take?

JINGOIST said...

Just more &%*&%$#@ Democrat cronyism. I was listening to Rush on Wednesday, and he called the Democrat party a "vast criminal enterprise."

That's about right. Think of all of the taxpayer's money that's been directed to Democrat special interest groups in the last two years alone. The original GM takeover was intended to give the unions their BIG PAYBACK for supporting Obama and the Dems. The bondholders were SHAFTED!

Have you ever wondered how much TARP money and "stimulus" ended up in the hands of Democrat special interest groups? Unlike many weak-kneed conservatives and Republicans, I want this crap investigated, and then I want scalps. I want the Dems on notice that POWER is not an excuse for an orgy of PLUNDER!

Ducky's here said...

Big whoop, Michael Chertoff s on the board of directors. They have been dialing up the fear for some time and now they cash in.

It's tough all around. I can't go to Dunkin' Donuts any longer because Bush is a part owner through the Carlyle Group.
In fact where were you far right newshounds when daddy Bush's holding company did a several hundred million dollar pump and dump with the company scheduled to produce the Crusader howitzer. It was a beauty.

FairWitness said...

George Soros is like a metasticized cancer ravaging America, actually the world. I feel pure evil present whenever I see or hear that man.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

It'll all be over in a year or so when TSA employees start suing about getting cancer from having to stand near X-Ray machines all day without those monster lead aprons the dentist throws on when he pops off pictures of your grill.

Then the TSA employees will have to wear the heavy lead aprons all day.

And that won't go over well.

The only way to fix this is to force government union workers to actually do "labor."

Chuck said...

No shock Z. Personally I would like to see ICE look through Soro's visa.

Duckhead, haven't I seen you whining about Haliburton? I could be wrong, I am getting old and senile.

Joe said...

I heard yesterday that Soros had divested himself of his stock in the scanner company...don't know whether it is true.

Duckster: Don't worry about it. I'll eat your Dunkin Donuts for you.

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

When one of these things mucks with someone's pacemaker or causes their hearing aid to explode inside their ear, it's time to know who made the x-ray machines.

Z said...

So there are TWO Deepok CHopra's...as careful as I am before publishing, who'd have thought? Thanks AOW...

As for Chertoff, who cares if he was in the Republican administration, I didn't admire him then and I don't admire him now.

Jingo...Rush must be watching Beck, who's called it a criminal enterprise with black board after black board of PROOF for a year or two now. It's Astonishing!

FW...it is a cancer.

Beamish...the trouble is we don't have the manpower types like El Al has...everyone thinks interrogation could work here..NO WAY. There are ways of cheating on background checks, we could get a muslim fanatic as an interrogator, then "Bob's your uncle" and 300 people are dead in the water. OR, if ONE agent inadvertantly asked the wrong question, the libs would be after him and others would run from the job. We can't survive with this mentality. It used to be a GOTCHA mentality..today it's a GOT-US mentality the left gets off on.

Joe, check out my post again ..thanks

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Z,

It's an argument from absurdity anyway. People were rolling through metal detectors in airports long before 9/11 and the percentage of terror attacks involving the hijacking, bombing, and / or crashing of aircraft is rather small in the aggregate. Before 9/11 it was mostly an Islamic terrorist sponsored by Soviet leftists thing. These days, none of are in a hurry to get to Cuba though, even if Gitmo is as close to Havana as we'll take them. Proof they can never be satisfied.

But really this dog and pony show is to be "visible" doing something.

Since the panty-bomber, the jihadi that tried to blow up Times Square, the shaheedi-wannabe that shot up the military recruiting office in Arkansas, and the wackomuzzie that shot up Ft. Hood were all on "watchlists" for terrorism yet were either allowed on planes or near military weapons ANYWAY, I think the lesson should be "How many terror suspects on our list we claim to be monitoring can we round up at a drop of a hat?"

Like every thing else the man is doing, Obama is trying to bullshit his way through counter-terrorism efforts.

FrogBurger said...

Ducky be consistent. If you criticize Bush or Halliburton, you should criticize this.

But your head is way up your derriere. Or maybe your derriere has replaced your brain.

Anyway, this administration does a lot of things for Soros. Including the story with Petrobras.

The only thing it does is confirm my beliefs in VERY limited government and a decentralized, state focused republic. That's the only way to limit corruption at a large scale. IT will always exist but if it has to happen, we must keep it as small as we can i.e local.

But the leftards like Ducky can't understand this. Their lack of principles and well thought out ethics lead them to compromise like this.

God I detest the left.

FrogBurger said...

.it is a cancer

The left is THE cancer.

In the US for example, they mess up states. Then they go somewhere else b/c the situation is bad economically. Yet they keep voting for the same policies.

Example: people leaving CA to Colorado or Texas b/c CA is too messed up. That includes some real left friends of mine.

They don't even have the courage to take responsibility for the consequences of their ideas.

Never or very rarely do they self assessment. It's all short term, micro and feel good thinking. Then it turns into crap. And then they run away.

cube said...

Similar situation to Jay Rockefeller calling for shutting down MSNBC and FOX when his wife is the long-time CEO of public TV station WETA in DC. Follow the money. Follow the power. Or better yet, follow both.

Joe said...

With Soros, it's all about the power and the money. If he has indeed divested himself of the stocks it is because he saw the potential to lose money when flyers decide not to put up with scanners any more.

Z said...

boy, everybody, will we ever recover from the greed!?
And, of course, we all know Democrats don't have greed, it's only us mean ol' capitalists :-)

Always On Watch said...

Speaking of Soros...

Always On Watch said...

Ah! The eloquence of Beamish:

Like every thing else the man is doing, Obama is trying to bullshit his way through counter-terrorism efforts.

FrogBurger said...

boy, everybody, will we ever recover from the greed!?

No we won't. It's human nature. It's in the DNA. People have tried for centuries if not millenniums.

We just have to accept it. And greed drives a lot of good things too in this world.

Blaming greed is one of my pet peeves I must say. Everybody is greedy to some degree. The union guy who wants his nice benefits yet blames the rich for having too much is greedy too. The person on welfare who wants to keep getting unemployment benefits after 2 years without working is greedy. Myself being more dedicated to clients who pay me more money and neglecting the ones that don't pay as much is greed b/c I like having more money.

JINGOIST said...
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JINGOIST said...

Froggy wrote:
---"In the US for example, they mess up states. Then they go somewhere else b/c the situation is bad economically. Yet they keep voting for the same policies.

Example: people leaving CA to Colorado or Texas b/c CA is too messed up. That includes some real left friends of mine.
They don't even have the courage to take responsibility for the consequences of their ideas."---

Sir you have truly hit the nail on the head! We have that problem with Northeasterners who move to Florida's southeast coast. Gawd in heaven these people work my nerves!!!
My ex's mother (God rest her) was dating a retired cop from NYC. They were in love. He was a VERY nice guy, originally from Italy who worked for the NYPD as a forensic investigator.
I asked Mike one day why he never moved back to NYC, at least for the summer (because he pined for the good old days with his buddies on the beat).

He told me right out, "Florida doesn't KILL me with property taxes, and I can work part time for the local Italian-American Club, and they don't tax my income."

-----------BUT-------------

Come election time, Mike and all of his buddies at the IA Club organized locally for Democrats and manned the phone banks to try to keep those "sob Republicans" from winning because they "hate the unions" and "they hate the working man" and every other idiotic and wrong-headed notion.
My ex's older sister and husband (a retired train worker in Brooklyn) did the same thing in Port St. Lucie. Same type of set up. They enjoyed the low tax, small government setup that we have here in FL, but they voted for BIG GOVERNMENT!

Make sense of that crap?

These people have a mountain-sized BLIND SPOT when it comes to their politics!!

Florida's southeast coast is a tiny fraction of Florida's total real estate, but it's a GIANT leftist sore spot, population-wise. The rest of the state is overwhemingly conservative.

FrogBurger said...

Jingoist, I don't know what to tell you.

I think the left attracts people who are unable to think beyond themselves and their selfish needs. Or who haven't been provided the tools to analyze a situation, data in a very critical manner.

That deserves work and courage, and self assessment. Not a lot of people do this. Look at Ducky. Perfect example of a consumerist focused on his ipod yet blaming the capitalist society for its failure.

Once those people are brainwashed at a young age by the left, it's pretty much over.

In CA a recent survey shows that people don't want spending cuts but want to pay lower taxes.

That's what the left does: it creates wussies like Ducky. People unable to accept the consequences of their decisions. People who run away when things get tough and then blame somebody else. People who can't even accept life and human nature for what it is, and want to make it perfect. Yet they are utterly unable to do self-assessment on their complete lack of logic.

Susannah said...

Ouch. I watched a little video today on Quantitative Easing, treasuries & Goldman Sachs...another ouch...

We've awoken...I just hope it's not too late.

Susannah said...

Cube said, " Follow the money. Follow the power. Or better yet, follow both."
yep...

JINGOIST said...

Great points Froggy, LOGIC is sorely lacking on the left. They have their own reality, and it doesn't work well with Natural Law.

Susannah I wrote about Quantitative easing a two weeks ago in an effort to explain it, and it's implications. Enjoy. (or hide the guns)

http://jingoist-foundingprinciples.blogspot.com/2010/11/are-you-worried-about-quantitative.html

FrogBurger said...

Great post Jingoist.

The left can't do math and they're running the economy.

It's as though I was performing brain surgery. I don't have the skills.

I personally think the FED should be ended. It's a corrupt organization using tax payer money to allow banks to do whatever they want. Congress needs to regain control over the Bernanke clown and his friends.

Susannah said...

Yep, Frog, Jing's post is really good. Thank goodness for blogs, talk radio, Fox -- or we'd never even know about this...Now, at least we know & maybe do something about it...(?)

Anonymous said...

"The answer might possibly be found in DHS documents described as “conceptual discussions” about trial deployments of the full body scanners to non-aviation public locations, such as sports stadiums, schools and malls. It appears that it is the intent of DHS to eventually install naked body scanners in these venues. But first, the public must be “conditioned” to accept their use at airports."

The above from the article is what concerns me. I believe if a technology exists it will be used. In this case, abused.

I'm one of those who refuses unnecessary xrays at the dentist's because I believe overexposure is bad for you.

It's radiation. When my mother had a lumpectomy her "localized", six weeks of radiation caused scarring of a lung, which she was not warned of, we found out at a later date through (you guessed it) a chest xray.

I fully believe these scanners will be used in other venues. I'm sure there will be a justification for their use, there always is.

Beyond the risk of overexposure which would be bad enough, is the government's, local or federal, penchant for control and micromanagement of the citizenry.

For them, with their addiction to passing stupid laws, we will be watched wherever we go. I don't know about anyone else, or those who say, "if you're not breaking the law, who cares"? I say, there are laws they haven't even thought up yet. But, there will be.


But Ducky, you worry about those dangerous dunkin donuts. Yeah, that's really a huge risk. I'm sure GWB is really out to get you!

I guess if you're obese, and they have scanners at Dunkin Donuts, you're in trouble with Obamacare!

See? This is your utopia, not mine! You think you can't be identified through these scanners?

Well, it turns out a reverse imaging process of your scan image, produces a nice real time image of you, warts and all.

Pris

FrogBurger said...

If I were Ducky, I'd worry those scans may show he's got neither brain nor cojones.

Sorry I had to crack that joke.

Z said...

Susannah, it's too late if the Republicans don't start FINALLY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
SO far, they're batting 1000 in doing ZILCH and one wonders why.

JINGOIST said...

Thanks Froggy and Susannah! Something DEFINITELY needs to be done about the Fed, and soon. I'd start with a thorough audit ASAP!

I've never been a big fan of Ron Paul because of his close and persistant associations with conspiracy kooks and serious anti-Semites, but this is JUST the job for him. GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE! It's right up Ron Paul's alley.

Pris: ---Beyond the risk of overexposure which would be bad enough, is the government's, local or federal, penchant for control and micromanagement of the citizenry.

For them, with their addiction to passing stupid laws, we will be watched wherever we go. I don't know about anyone else, or those who say, "if you're not breaking the law, who cares"? I say, there are laws they haven't even thought up yet. But, there will be.---

I wonder how much of this is ACTUALLY necessary, and how much is the far left implusle to "never let a good crisis go to waste."
I DO NOT TRUST the Federal government anymore. Am I overeacting?

FrogBurger said...

The FED is supposed to be controlled by Congress and it's not. They're acting independently and they shouldn't as long as they're using our money whether through creating deficits or debt, or creating inflation.

In my Libertarian world, the FED wouldn't exist. Banks would compete for interest rates in order to get customers. The gov through Congress would be in charge of printing money and therefore controlled by the people.

And if banks fail, they would fail. Period. This doesn't mean something like the FDIC wouldn't exist. Insuring people vs. bank failure is a separate issue.

Unfortunately simple minds think not having the FED would mean their bank account money would disappear.

Ducky's here said...

The Fed is independent Frggie. It operates under rules to control inflation and promote full employment.

It is not under control of Congress but thanks for playing, we have some lovely parting gifts for you.

JINGOIST said...

Froggy I can appreciate your thoughts on the Fed, and I wish i knew enough about the minutiae to comment intelligently on the issue. On 99 out of 100 issues I default to freedom.
My buddy Dave Nalle is the National Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus, and he wrote this about the Fed. Tell me what you think.

---Blame the Bankers, by Dave Nalle
June 5, 2010

Many of those who oppose the Federal Reserve system or any other kind of national bank do so in gross ignorance of history. They assume that it is the system which has led to economic problems and that going back to an older gold-based system would stabilize the economy. The problem is that the historical record does not bear this out.

The reason why we switched to a managed paper currency in the first place was that specie based money was unstable. Throughout the period when we used a gold based system we had repeated booms and busts and crashes and bubbles caused by market manipulation, the real estate market, credit shortages, natural disasters and other factors. Every crash from the south sea bubble to the great depression came during a time of specie-backed, real-value currency. Gold did nothing to make the economy stable because it was only one factor and by not floating relative to the market it made things less stable, not more.

The most stable basis for a currency is to have it indexed not to one commodity, but to many, as represented by a measure like the GDP so that the rise of one commodity is balanced out by the decline in others. That's exactly what the Federal Reserve was originally intended to use as its basis for the currency. The value of money was supposed to be tied directly to the GDP so that the money supply would grow in proportion to legitimate demand and productivity. That's a far more stable system than using any single commodity like gold as the basis for your money.

The problem is not the concept of the federal reserve, it is the misuse of the power of the federal reserve and the abandonment of the principle of tying the money supply to GDP which began in the 1970s. So long as the money supply expanded and contracted with the economy the system worked. When the bankers started inflating the money supply to create artificial booms they also created busts to go along with them.

But in a nutshell it's the abuse of the system, not the system itself which is the problem.---

JINGOIST said...

Ducky: "...promote full employment"

Really? Do you mean like the old Soviet Union? LOL!

Anonymous said...

"Florida's southeast coast is a tiny fraction of Florida's total real estate, but it's a GIANT leftist sore spot, population-wise."


You're right again Jingo...but we redeemed ourselves en-masse this time around. We got West and Rubio!

Anonymous said...

"I DO NOT TRUST the Federal government anymore. Am I overeacting?"

Jingo, you're not overreacting. We have reason to feel that way, sadly. They are now in the position they have to prove themselves to the people.

I never thought I'd feel this way either, but I do.

Pris

Z said...

Me, too, Pris.

MathewK said...

What i want to know is, will the muslims escape the body scans because they're superior to the rest of us.

I hear the TSA is saying no, but will they enforce it and stick to their position.

FrogBurger said...

The Fed is independent Frggie. It operates under rules to control inflation and promote full employment.

That's my point, MORON. They should not act independently.

They promote full unemployment?

Are you doing coke? Or are you just plain stupid?

If they were why do we have 10% unemployment right now?

Thanks for playing too. You just ridiculed yourself.

FrogBurger said...

All the FED does is apply Keynes theories that have sunk Europe and that will sink us.

Greece, then Ireland. Wait for a few more European countries to go down the drain before it's the US turn.

Central banking really hasn't worked that well in controlling inflation and unemployment, Ducky. Ask Europeans about inflation with the introduction of the Euro and the unemployment levels.

I'm really dumbfounded by your dumbness. That must be why you don't get your own blog. You'd be ridiculed left and right. Too much for you to handle.

FrogBurger said...

Jingoist, thanks for the great comment on the FED.

My comments weren't related to gold standard vs paper money. But as you suggested, related to the FED becoming a political tool serving an agenda.

And also related to the fact the money supply, very much like the stock market at times, is disconnected from economic realities.

The important question to ask is the following: is it really the role of the FED or any other institution to make the economy work by manipulating the economy? Or is it the role of human activity and nature to do so to accommodate their needs, and then have that institution provide the tools to allow that activity.

It goes back to the eternal supply vs demand debate. As I don't believe it is the job of the government to stimulate the economy, I certainly don't believe in the FED printing money or lowering interest rates for that purpose. Instead people and businesses should go to banks if they need credit, and those banks should go to the "printing money institution" to get cash.

Then like you're suggesting, the monetary base would reflect the GDP.
It may not make the economy run as fast as we've seen during the dotcom or the real estate booms. But it would certainly avoid those bubbles created artificially through interest rate manipulation and monetary base increase.

Also we have people in central bank who only go by Keynes theories. Because that's what they learned at universities, like I have. With the failure of policies based on Keynes in Europe, we ought to limit the influence of those people. They'll keep repeating the same mistakes over and over.

FrogBurger said...

Another point I want to make is about how a gov or the FED stimulates the economy.

The dotcom and real estate booms are the perfect example.

Why did dotcoms failed? Because they were not really generating money and the return on investment was negative, except for the ones that truly offered value by making people more productive. Why did real estate crashed? Because the value was not matching what people could not afford.

Two examples created by low interest rates, increased money supply that were not matching economic realities.

The economy works on productivity gains that materialize into profit. Too many times people in power think injecting cash is enough. Often they forget that cash that doesn't produce productivity gains will be pretty much wasted. Wasted cash means no or negative profits and therefore debt.

That is exactly what happened in Europe and in the US through Keynesian policies led by politicians who were totally ignorant of the crucial role of productivity gains.

Yet we keep repeating the same mistakes, injecting money that has no return on investment with the stimulus.

We really need to go back to the basics: if people need something, someone will create a business, ask for money and address that need. If they don't, there's no reason to make them think they need it.

Z said...

FB "Yet we keep repeating the same mistakes, injecting money that has no return on investment with the stimulus.

We really need to go back to the basics: if people need something, someone will create a business, ask for money and address that need. If they don't, there's no reason to make them think they need it."

From your lips to government's ears! Well said.


MK....the first burqa/scanner case will, with our present idiotic gov't, preclude women muslims from scans. Then the men will say it's against their religion to have their 'junk' checked and that's that.
We'll then be checking people who wouldn't dream of going down on a plane and bringing others with them in the name of their religion

beakerkin said...

Wow good old Impertinent from FPM

The body scanner bit has been mishandled. I have been in the audience with Napalitano and she is not this incompetent.

We need Steve B even if he is clueless about bagels in Canada.

I have no problem going into a scanner. I merely treat the operator as a professional. Maybe the problem is that the public has zero faith in the professionalism of the operators.

Z said...

Beak, when you see my video on Monday, you'll have no faith in Napolitano OR the technicians who're doing the scans and gropes.

However, I don't have a problem with the scans, either..except I hear they don't pick up very important things, and that's plain STUPID.

This whole thing comparing EL AL's excellent interrogators, who've kept Israelis alive for 35 years now, brings home something that hurts my heart so much about AMerica; We don't HAVE enough Americans who are trainable, love this country enough, and ARE BEYOND BEING BRIBED BY TERRORISTS TO LET SOMEONE GO THROUGH.

There, I've said it. I mean, obviously, we DO, but I shudder to think of the amount of falsified background ID, checks, recommendations, etc. I just can't see us relying on humans.......we suck lately, frankly