Wednesday, January 25, 2012

The SOTUS

Did Mr. Obama say anything that particularly rankled you?   Or anything you really liked?  

How did you like Mitch Daniels' rebuttal?   I think it was excellent.
z

60 comments:

Speedy G said...

He implied that the government invented "fracking", and that the oil and gas industry would be no where without the government's "expertise".

Now THAT's funny, as all their "expertise" is collected in the private sector and gets lured away to the public one.

Jarhead said...

For sure his fourth and last State of the Union speech was long on government handouts and redistribution of the wealth.

Silverfiddle said...

It made me wish Mitch Daniels were running for president...

Ducky's here said...

It's all boiler plate.

The line that does me raw is his contention that this useless government actually enacted financial reforms. Then he turns to his new consumer affairs appointee and implies they are going to regulate pay day lenders.

Bore me later. Such a parcel of rogues, and that includes the Tea party shills.

Ticker said...

Yea the idiot is going to regulate payday lenders while he allows thousands of jobs be lost by not signing the Keystone bill. WOW such a great order of priorities he has. What a fool!

Speedy G said...

Obama's going to protect the American consumer from predatory banker practices, whilst the government's corporate and banker friends simply write unlimited IOU's which they then foist upon the taxpayers as legitimate debts.

So who's going to protect us from the vultures in the Executive Branch and Congress who are currently printing IOU's and piling up the public debt?

The man definitely needs to have his credit card taken away.

Lisa said...
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Lisa said...

The only thing I liked was the tribute to our troops. Other than that empty words,redux of the last 3 years with no substance. Liked Mitch Daniels rebuttal although I really wish they would do it the next day and really pick apart all the BS and point that out. Like quoting Obama by saying he said this",but it's really that"
I just wish Daniels had a little more spring in his step while he was speaking. I didn't see any passion in his rebuttal.

Jan said...

"And America’s moral example must always shine for all who yearn for freedom and justice and dignity."

I'd like to believe this is true, but I don't think we're seeing eye-to-eye on what's moral.

"And because we’ve begun this work, tonight we can say that American leadership has been renewed and America’s standing has been restored."

Huh? When did that happen?

"But now that the worst of the recession is over, we have to confront the fact that our government spends more than it takes in. That is not sustainable. Every day, families sacrifice to live within their means. They deserve a government that does the same"

Well, SOME families sacrifice to live within their means, anyway. We strive to do that, while he, and his family, spend multi-millions of our tax dollars on lavish vacations, and His and Hers planes to get there. Wouldn't gracing some of the vacation spots in this country with their presence have saved us a dollar or two? I'm not saying that they shouldn't travel to exotic destinations for their vacations, but how much judgement have they used in doing so,frequently, at our expense?

How about reducing the number of czars to save a few bucks, too? And then there's the Secret Service protection he ordered for his close friend, and top aide, Valerie Jarrett, and it goes on, and on.

Yes, we do "deserve a government that does the same" but we didn't get it with this administration.

That's only a few of the things he said that rankled me, but I could go on, and on.

Speedy G:

Funny you should mention the credit card. I was just thinking that he was like an immature kid who's been given the family car, and credit card, to use at his discretion.

And just like the kid, he doesn't know the meaning of responsibility, and being held accountable for the way he uses them.

Z, I, too, thought Mitch Daniels' rebuttal was excellent. I liked that he gave credit where credit was due, but still painted a clear picture of the actual facts.

Lisa, I agree about the lack of passion in Daniels' speech, but what he said was good. Of course, he isn't the great orator that the President is praised for being..and we all know that, that's all it takes for some people, unfortunately.

I agree about the rebuttal speech being given the next day, too..I'm afraid not that many hang around for it after the President's speech.

cube said...

I don't listen to Obama's speeches. Can't stand the sound of his voice AND the discrepancy between what he says he will do and what he actually does. Um, most people call that lying.

Alligator said...

I didn't listen, I didn't even read a transcript. For the most part, SOTUS is just a boiler plate formality for every president Republican and Democrat to campaign and put a happy face on crap.

I follow enough news sources and blogs to know whether or not I really need to pay attention to a SOTUS. I already know enough about Obama's policies and belief system. I didn't need to waste the time.

Trekkie4Ever said...

Z, I just couldn't bring myself to watch it. I can't stand the man and I know that is petty, but what else can I say.

He lies through his teeth and I just didn't want to sit through another hour of his rhetorical nonsense.

Z said...

Jan, he said these quotes in his speech, huh? Okay, let's start:

"And America’s moral example must always shine for all who yearn for freedom and justice and dignity."

MORAL EXAMPLE OF PLAYING RACE CARDS AND ONLY ATTENDING BLACK CHURCHES? THAT'S A MORAL EXAMPLE?

HOW DOES A PERSON YEARN FOR FREEDOM AND DIGNITY WHEN ANYTHING HE DOES TO BE TRULY FREE WILL BE TAXED (THE MORE HE EARNS, THE MORE WE'LL STEAL), WHEN OUR KIDS ARE LEARNING IT'S NOT WORTH STUDYING BECAUSE YOUR DIGNITY WILL BE TORN ASUNDER BY A GOV'T WHICH SAYS "YOU HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY?"
MY GOSH.
DIGNITY WHEN HE HAS PRIVATE EXPENSIVE PARTIES AND DOESN'T TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
BOY, COULD WE ALL GO ON AND ON.

THEN HE SAID...
"American leadership has been renewed"

DOES HIS EGO EVER STOP? OUR LEADERSHIP IS NOW APPEASING AND SCARING WHAT USED TO BE ALLIES, LIKE ISRAEL; THAT'S RENEWED? TALKING TO IRAN IS RENEWAL? AGAIN, ON AND ON....
I HOPE HE DIDN'T MEAN HIMSELF IN AMERICA'S RENEWED LEADERSHIP.


"They deserve a government that does the same" (SACRIFICES)...LIKE EXPENSIVE VACATIONS HE TAKES? LIKE THE EXPENSIVE PARTIES HE GIVES FOR HIS BUDDIES? REALLY?
LIKE THE TRIP TO NYC WITH MICHELLE? WHAT SACRIFICE HAS HE MADE?

Jan said...

I HOPE HE DIDN'T MEAN HIMSELF IN AMERICA'S RENEWED LEADERSHIP.

Z, I think that's exactly what he meant:

"And because we’ve begun this work, tonight we can say that American leadership has been renewed and America’s standing has been restored."

Notice the "we" two times in his statement. I doubt that was a general "we."

DOES HIS EGO EVER STOP?

Nope...

Dave Miller said...

Really??? You guys have a statement that says "America’s moral example must always shine for all who yearn for freedom and justice and dignity."?

Isn't that a defining example of the American Exceptionalism that conservatives have been calling for?

If President Obama cannot even make a statement like that without receiving criticism, we are indeed in big trouble.

I may be wrong, but as one who has defended Republican presidents in the past, my opinion is that there really is nothing President Obama could do to gain the approval of most of your readers Z on any subject.

Kid said...

I like how he beat the hell out of the people that provide the opportunities (the Rich) that made America great, then proceeded to say that he's gonna make America great again by punishing, regulating, folding, spindling, and mutilating the people that make it happen.

Perfect liberal thought process.

(I didn't listen, as stated, but some of it filtered through since then)

Ignorance only exceeded by his Arrogance.

FairWitness said...

Who the hell does President Obama think he's talking to?

Z said...

Dave, when Mr. Obama shows he knows what those words means and is trying to implement them, we'll be thrilled and wax eloquent over his great presidency.

Dave Miller said...

Kid, if you didn't listen, how can you comment on specifics? Isn't context important? Would you let your kids write a report on a speech they had not seen?

Z, do you mean the type of morality that is displayed when past "honorable" presidents have ordered the overthrow of democratically elected governments that would not be favorable to US interests?

Kid said...

Dave Miller, I informed myself afterwards. I also predicted what the speech would consist of at the 50 foot level ahead of time and I wasn't wrong though I was incomplete of course. I got all the main stuff.

Let me give you a Star Trek reference. When the away team beamed back from a planet and ended up in a parallel universe where the Enterprise there was crewed by the evil duplicates of the Enterprise crew.

At the ending, The Good Spock is explaining to the Good Kirk, how they identified so easily that they had the wrong people beamed back aboard and put them in the brig immediately when the good crew was evert uncovered on the 'bad' Enterprise....
"It is easy for civilized people to act like barbarians, but it is impossible for barbarians to act like civilized men".

Therefore, it was easy for me to see 1.5 years before the 08 election that obama is a flim-flam man, a BS salesman, an empty suit, and he's done nothing to sway my opinion. In addition, it is easy to predict what failed incompetent people will talk about at a SOTU. Namely: -take credit for everything possible
-spin as much of the failure as successes
-blame all failures that can't be spun on someone/everyone else.

It's simple. Believe me. Or not, don't care.

Liberalmann said...

Great speech. The GOP response was your typical lies by some lame person who looked like a ghoul.

Liberalmann said...

Hey Jan...Bush had more 'czars' tha Obama and Bush coined the term 'czar.'

You're right, Dave, this was a great speech for the average American and too many on the right are so uninformed and/or racist to see that the GOP will only screw them if they come into power again.

And to comment on his ego is just absurd.

Catherine Moore-Barry said...

Unfortunately Obama has always painted a rosy picture, but without a record or measurable achievements to back it up! He wouldn't know "American Exceptionalism" or "Leadership" if it bit him on the neck! His idea of leadership is to duck out to the golf course or on tax payer funded vacations when leadership is needed.

And Liberalmann... once again you don't know what you are talking about. Mitch Daniels may not be "exciting or sexy"... but Indiana is running in the BLACK ink! Our Federal Government could learn a thing or two from him.

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