Monday, January 14, 2013

Hagel.......Sec of Defense?

What do you think of Chuck Hagel? Alan Dershowitz makes a GOOD POINT about Iran's pleasure at the nomination.

I personally think Hagel's term "Jewish Lobby" (for which he's getting a lot of flack from the left and right) is not as anti-Israel as some think it is. What do you call AIPAC? Israelis are JEWISH and there IS a lobby... I think a lot of us strong Israel supporters might call it the "Jewish Lobby" so it's odd to condemn him for that.  By the way, isn't there a Palestinian Lobby?!  Or Muslim Lobby?  YOU BET there is.
It's not pejorative to discuss the Jewish Lobby...
What really gets me, however, is that there's a quote (which I can't find) by Hagel about how we favor Israel and condemn Palestine for always making the aggressive moves, and he is so wrong on that that it scares me. It's difficult to find a time when Palestinians haven't struck first on innocent Israelis..... Hagel may not be anti-Israel, but he gets a lot of things wrong.

On the other hand, we want someone who puts war as a way to solve things on the bottom of any list......If he's smart enough to know when we are about to be HIT and acts before we ARE. That's a HUGE and very important IF.

What do you think?  Do you like him?  Got any pros and cons?  or mostly cons?


 By the way, I watched Colin Powell defend Hagel this morning on MEET THE PRESS and he made me nervous as I watched his eyes so wide, looking a little desperate and his fingers rubbing against each other as he tried to convince. Man, he was on a mission to paint Hagel as a good nomination.   Really rather curious.

z

90 comments:

JonBerg said...

While I respect Hagel's military service, this fact alone is not a qualifier, as such. Along with Colin Powell (who supports Obama) I view him as a stereotypical and quintessential RINO! When I lived in Nebraska, part time, my conservative friends there held him in lower esteem than his counterpart in the Senate, Ben Nelson, Democrat. But no matter who ends up in the position of Secretary of Defence that person will take his/her 'marching orders' from the Fraud-in-Chief so; will it really matter?

Inspector AIPAc said...

We ensure that all political candidates seeking public office kiss Golda Meir's ring. If you don't, you're automaticall a Jew hating anti-Semite.

Political Chick said...

I'll get to Mr Hagel shortly, but first I's like to get this Hillary Clinton BS off my chest!

Thank you.
Just when we thought we heard it all we now we have the BS about Madam Hilliary's blood clot of to avoid testifying.
Is anyone as fed up as I am with one excuse after another from a woman who, along with her boss Barack Obama, didn't give proper aid to our fellow Americans.

Am I sick of her lies and distortions? You bet I am. Can someone please explain to me how they could possibly even think of having this lying POS, as the President of this country? Can someone point out what she accomplished as Secretary of State?
Is having 4 people die under your watch considered doing a good job? If you do then shame on you!

My thoughts on that Jew hating Hagel and the Pathetic Liberal, Progressive, Jews in America who support him, or for that matter "ANY" Pathetic Liberal, and Progressive Americans will follow later.

Deputy Cornfuzed Democrat of the PC Police said...

We're sitting this one out, and so is the Jewish ADL.

Democrats PUNISH their opponents. We know better than to try and Swift-boat a Democrat.

Silverfiddle said...

I've come to believe (as many other before me already concluded) that these appointments mean little.

The appointees do the bidding of the president. Elections have consequences.

Crabby Old Man said...

One thing you can´t take away from Obama is he´s very good at sticking it to you, and giving anyone that don't agree with him the middle finger. The evidence is very clear nominating Chuck Hagel the anti-semiotic jerk-off is exactly what he (Obama) is doing. The fact that Hagel’s desire to distance the United States from Israel is very dangerous and a slap in the face to every American Jew that voted for Obama. Isn't it interesting how Obama pays them them back.

Oh well, at least Reverend Wright must be happy.

Ducky's here said...

This administration will always have on the knee pads around Likud.

Z said...

JB...true.

AIPAc....odd thing to say.

Pol. Chick...I'm sure no Hillary fan. You still think her clot was phony???

Dep...no time to see your link but I'll check it out when I can. thanks.

SF...I'm not sure ANY president has run rough shod on everyone around him as this one has. I often wonder how Axelrod and Jarrett threaten those who dare disagree with the words they put in Obama's mouth.

Crappy...good point about Wright.

Ducky. Let's hope so.

Z said...

I am hearing how big the corporate donations are to the Obama inauguration!!

When the leftwingers get into trouble and want to screw our economy, they constantly blame BIG CORPORATIONS...

Suddenly, the truth comes out that BIG CORPORATIONS voted for their leftwinger, now that BIG MONEY is needed to give him the show he feels he deserves.

THe hypocrisy never quits.

Thersites said...

If having "knee pads" means appointing Chuck Hagel as SecDef...

I think that Obama reserves his "knee pads" for commie AND corporate hacks.

Thersites said...

Remember, Z, the bureaucratic transition from "capitalism" to "communism" cannot happen until the government appoints the Board of Directors of GM, AIG and Morgan Stanley....


Oooops. It's here.

Too big to fail, thy name is "Democrat".

Thersites said...

Welcome to Team "America's Corporations"... Mercantilism on steroids.

Bloviating Zeppelin said...

Any time you have Iran or any other Communist or Socialist or Islamist country crowing for a particular nomination, you have what is generally termed a CLUE.

BZ

Lady Gun Slinger said...

Never before had an American president sticking it to his citizenry as Obama has. I guess that the American people who wanted Obama for four more years just arn’t the same kind of people as the ones who love her so much, makes you think just what kind of people these progressive nitwits are. If the nomination of Hagel wońt change any American Jewish minds, then there just isn’t any hope for us any longer.
The left has brainwashed itself into hating anything that the Republicans want or do or reject. Proving once again that "you cańt fix stupid"
There are none so blind as he who will not see.

PS. Ducky, yoúre such a dimwit

conservativesonfire said...

Elections do have consequences and every boss should be able to pick his/her staff.

Crabby Old Man said...

Outstanding Blog Z, Simply outstanding. The entire Obama administration are a bunch of sad pathetic liars!
And these Liberals or Progressives or Democrats or whatever they want to be called these days are a bunch of brain dead pathetic morons for electing, and re-electing this gang of retards.. They have taken America’s values, our family structure, and yes even our freedom of choice, from us. They disrespect religion, and hate capitalism. They embrace everything that leads to dismantling a successful America. Their way of thinking has been turned upside from their Messiah's brainwashing,they take more then they can give...they want everyone else to pay for all their idiotic sick programs, and agendas....they simply do not want to work but want everything handed to them, they are blood sucking parasites, and SOCIALIST’S!

Anonymous said...

FROM Z OF GEEZ AT WORK:

Crabby...thanks! Thanks for coming by, too.

What's scary is how the GOP can't win anymore; anything we adults do to actually get our debt down, etc., is painted by the left as "taking your entitlements away"...anything we do as adults to help fix the immigration problem is painted as if we HATE immigrants :-),

I don't see a way out. The left's done too good a job with indoctrination in our schools and the media and it rules the media, so...

what next? The slow glide into pathetic debt and cultural breakdown, overrun by lawbreakers who are the only ones with guns?

WOW

Thersites said...

Meet the New Left...

same as the Old Left.

Anonymous said...

FROM Z:

Deputy, I just read your link. I believe the ADL is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. Might as well 'doesn't' because the media'll make you look bad WHATEVER you do.

This contributes to my woes regarding how we EVER recover from this pres and his henchmen's VERY clever actions....
Israel, too, is in the boat Conservative Americans are in...the Andrea Doria, The Lusitania, the Titanic, ...all going down under the weight of dishonesty, bad character, the sudden disparagement of anybody patriotic to his cause (unless it's leftwing or for another country other than us), etc.

tough times.

Impertinent said...

@Z

"overrun by lawbreakers who are the only ones with guns?"


Maybe in those "cool" gun free zones.

But not anywhere else in America.

Anonymous said...

It's time we shook off the shackles put on us by the Israel Lobby. Israel is not the fifty-first state, and we do not owe Israel anything. The media is and always has been dominated by Jews. Their influence is too powerful and it's hugely disproportionate to their numbers.

Hagel is a veteran, a white, plain talking American with probably a Christian background. He is a Republican, so what's the beef? If the Jews don't want hum, he's got to be good.

Dick Wilde

Anonymous said...

From Z:

Dick, a lot of people feel like you do and I find it alarming that in such a Muslim region, you don't see the importance of protecting Israel as such a big ally of ours.

Hagel is a Republican; but Republicans don't just go for a Republican because he IS one; we're not like Democrats in that we argue in public to get to the best solutions and we don't just like 'our guy' cuz he's 'our guy'.

thanks for coming by, but I suppose you know that, by now, even Jewish media are mostly anti Israel? Not a good thing.

Liberalmann said...

Political Chick said:'Just when we thought we heard it all we now we have the BS about Madam Hilliary's blood clot of to avoid testifying.
Is anyone as fed up as I am with one excuse after another from a woman who, along with her boss Barack Obama, didn't give proper aid to our fellow Americans."
....

Oh boy,the tin foil hats are on tight!

Anonymous said...

Libmann...if there was a SHRINK WRAP tin foil hat, you'd have it, so I wouldn't be too mocking if I were you.

I mean, you DID vote Obama, right?
GeeeZ

FROM Z of GEEEEZ

Ed Bonderenka said...

Gun control.
Hagel.
Debt Ceiling.

Makes me wonder whether it's all mis-direction and what I'm missing that more important than all that?

It's just a hat.
No tin foil necessary.

Anonymous said...

From Z:


Ed, what do you think? Those are pretty hefty subjects; of course, it's an interesting diversion from the fact that Obama's done NOTHING ABOUT JOBS.

JOBS is what this economy needs.
JOBS is what Romney tried to wake people up to...

And JOBS is what they voted this guy in for; So far, he's nothing but diversion from JOBS, though he gives lip service to it.

awful

Anonymous said...

FROM Z:

It'll be a DISASTER if we don't raise the debt ceiling again.....how the heck mugh higher CAN WE GO?

If a family's in debt up to their eyeballs, do they just pick another higher number and keep spending?

or.........?

Kid said...

Any pick of obama's..

Kid said...

Political Chick - The Ambassador and the rest were Very Specifically Allowed to be murdered.

Why? Maybe we find out someday. Might had something to do with the contents of the Embassy that were burned to the ground but I know nothing specific.

And the hildebeast. evil lying POS from hell's anus.

Liberalmann said...

This is where the led by the nose Fox News, wingnut, lemmings live, lol!

beamish said...

Hagel is a Republican; but Republicans don't just go for a Republican because he IS one; we're not like Democrats in that we argue in public to get to the best solutions and we don't just like 'our guy' cuz he's 'our guy'.

Uh, Z? You willingly participated in the Republican Party's attempts to sell the far left extremist Mitt Romney as a "conservative."

Just sayin'.

Z said...

thanks, Libmann, that's an enormous compliment.
If ONLY you'd open your eyes to something other than the liberal nonsense you spout here.

Z said...

you're ridiculous and I'm getting tired of deleting you, beamish.
Gee, I wish I'd voted for Gary Johnson; then we'd REALLY had a chance at getting this loser out of office (smile)

beamish said...

you're ridiculous and I'm getting tired of deleting you, beamish.

Is deleting me supposed to cow me into some party line? I can tell from the number of "Liberalmann" posts allowed to stand that this blog has made quite a leap leftward. Didn't think you'd implement the typical left wing blog policy of deleting conservatives on sight.

Anonymous said...

From Z:

beamish, I'll suffer thru Libmann's ridiculous stuff any day over your name calling and mischaracterizations here...
Friendship is harder to juxtaposition with your recent treatment of all of us than knowing a jerk lib is having fun spreading his crap.

Believe me, most of us don't disagree with you, we were just old enough to realize how naive you've been, and very hard to take.

I wish you well

beamish said...

Name calling? People who poll greater than 70% opposed to any changes to "their" debt-expanding social welfare "entitlements," aka Mitt Romney's "Free and Strong America" PAC, aka the Tea Party "movement," are leftists.

Every single candidate the Tea Party "movement" proffered up as Presidential candidates were leftists.

Michelle "thank you Obama for stabilizing Minesota commodity prices" Bachmann is a leftist.

Donald "tax everyone's net worth after taxes an additional 14.25%" Trump is a leftist.

Rick "we should have enacted Hillarycare in 1993" Perry is a leftist.

Herman "the TARP bailouts were teh awesome" Cain is a leftist.

And so on. You saw what went on in the GOP primaries. Months of Tea Party candidates doing everything they could to avoid attacking Romney. The RNC tossing out its established delegate allocation rules to award states to Romney he did not win.

You saw Republicans and usually conservative pundits ridiculously trying to portray Mitt Romney, a career leftist, as a "conservative." You saw actual conservative candidates with strong voting records to back the claim (like Newt Gingrich) be smeared and labeled "progressive leftists" by blithering imbeciles like Glenn Beck.

I didn't go to the Twilight Zone you apparently did. Call me naive if you think that clothes your Emperor.

beamish said...

Face it. This time around, when it came time to fight the left, the Republican Party took a dive and stayed on the mat.

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