Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Yesterday's post.......... enough.  Long, passionate, and enough for two days' posts.
Please chime got a pretty good conversation going and we'd love to have you join!



22MOON said...

The Eye Roll that was heard around the world!
Once again our dear First lady Michelle “the Moocher” Obama was noticed rolling her eyes no once but twice in response to something that John Boehner said at the Inauguration Day luncheon and obviously did not exactly meet with the First Moocher’s approval. Therefor she found it timely and obviously necessary to shoot the old “Angre Black Women’s” eye roll at him.
It’s so nice to know that we have a “Classless First Lady in our midst.

As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.

Jarhead said...

Why should anyone be surprised? Moocheel just can’t seem to keep herself from being rude and disrespectful.
We all can remember her now famous words: "All this for a flag", " I can finally be proud to be an American"? So what would we expect from her but being rude and disrespectful just because she was sat next to the leader of the opposing party. She is nothing even remotely close to classy. Just like her husband. She rolled her eyes at John Boehner at an official dinner. Even if she doesn’t like Bohener, she needs to grow up and not roll her eyes like a child and have some respect for others. But I guess thats much too much to expect from a angry black women... Could you imagine the outcry if this were Nancy Reagan, or worst yet Barbara Bush, This was an inauguration dinner, not a house party! What a pathetic excuse for a First lady.
And by the way, someone should teach her table manners, you don't sit there with your arms on the table while you shovel down the feedbag of 1500 calories.

Z said...

I'm not sure how Michelle Obama plays into my post but you've both mentioned her, so..!?
And, I've watched the video and I think she was looking at Boehner as one does when eating and kind of interested in what someone's saying..? I looked for a 'roll' but personally don't see it as quite as bad as a lot of people did. Maybe it's me.

I can't stand her, don't get me wrong, and I laughed when I saw she was seated next to Boehner, of all people she must despise him for holding back their agenda (sort of; I'm not a Boehner fan, either..I've met him and he's a drunk and foul mouthed)...

Jarhead said...

Z said...
"I'm not sure how Michelle Obama plays into my post"

Sorry I just followed up the one above mine.

Z said...

Jarhead, that's okay! I welcome off topic, but when you both talked about Michelle, I thought there was something I'd missed.

Please, if you've got the time, I'd love your take on the media and how it's damaging our country...particularly the Republican message...
on the post below.

Anonymous said...

Off topic or not, this topic and these comments not only made me smile but made my day... Thanks for posting them...

Z said...

ConsOn Fire..good! :-)
The only reason I wondered about the OFF TOPIC was it was SO off topic...but, really, that rolling the eyes, and our media largely refusing to mention it, is all part of the post below, isn't it.

have a great day!

Crabby Old Man said...
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Z said...

Crabby..thanks for that..well done; though it's really hard to read. I think it might be hardest for our servicepeople who fought for...THIS.

Now Obama's driving yet another wedge by talking about immigration in a way that makes Republicans, the SANE GUYS, sound like they hate hispanics because they so badly want to close the borders better before any kind of meaningful path to citizenship.
HOW is that hard for Democrats to understand? (though many are siding with the R's on this one)'s hard for the average Democrat Citizen to understand because they don't hear the whole story.

MEDIA. MEDIA. The end of our country as we loved it.

Crabby Old Man said...

Z Asked, “I'd love your take on the media and Z Asked, “I'd love your take on the media and how it's damaging our country...particularly the Republican message”

OK, I’ll have lay it out for you

FACT Obama has added more to the National Debt than any other President in the history of the country.
FACT Obama is the only President that ever added a trillion dollars to the National Debt in one year. Fiscal lunacy
And he has done it over and over again in every singel year that he has been in office.
Add to this the the bailouts, the promotion of abortion, the path of leading ILLEGAL’S to Citizenship, and the list goes on and on.
And please So don’t any of the Libs here try to tell me that “It’s Bush’s fault. That dog just won"t hunt anymore.
Also I’m sick and tired of Obama’s constant apology tours.
He has no character at all .
Obama shoved Obamacare down the Republicans throats when all the polls showed the public was against it. And that is going to kill the Job sector and thus contribute to the sinking of our economy. Consumer spending and business investment have slowed, because Americans are pessimistic that President Obama’s policies and his new Tax’s, as well as employers being scared to hire for the same reason.
And the really scary thing is, and what really bugs the hell out of me is that he is killing the Super Power (our armed forces) that America once was.
So of course he wants to destroy our country, there can no longer be any doubt.
And by the way, our gross national product report came out today and sank to a 25 year low
I spent 25 years in the Marine Corps and I can recognize a lack of guts when I see It. And that’s the way I see Obama. but unfortunately, a huge part of "America" still believes in him and can’t see that this President is a menace to America.
And by the way, our gross national product report came out today and sank to a 25 year low.
I spent 25 years in the Marine Corps and I can recognize a lack of guts when I see It. And that’s the way I see Obama. message”

This President refuses to comprise on entitlement, or on spending cuts, but instead, he keeps printing more dollars so the government can pay down debts with dollars that are worthless. So it reflects on the downgrading of America’s triple A Moody’s Rating.

Z said...

Crabby! How'd my comment to you publish above yours which I responded to? This blogosphere is weird! :-)

Crabby Old Man said...

LOL, I deleted mine because of a spelling error and then re=posted it.

JonBerg said...


"So of course he wants to destroy our country, there can no longer be any doubt."

I NEVER had "any doubt" but why, after four years of this fraud, does he still have such a preponderance of enablers?

Ducky's here said...

So of course he wants to destroy our country, there can no longer be any doubt.
What caused the drop?

Hurricane Sandy and a temporary drop in defense spending?

The markets would have reacted if there were a hint of recession news. Instead it's pretty flat and anyone who has been in stocks for the last year instead of gold is just scratching their heads listening to the Libertarians yammer.

Ducky's here said...

Crabby Old Man, what do you make of the fact that a hunk of the decline was caused by depleted inventories indicating that consumer spending is healthier than thought and pointing to the need for increased production?

I don't want to imply that conservative analysis is superficial but sometimes it's superficial.

Crabby Old Man said...

Ducky's here said...
So of course he wants to destroy our country, there can no longer be any doubt.
"What caused the drop?"

Strictly semantics, so don't get so excited.
Just the interpretation of language.
The point is that HE does want to destroy America.
Only HE calls it the "transform of America" That's HIS his socialist intentions.

Ducky's here said...

Crabby would you like to respond to your estimation of calamity in the GDP figure?

Analysts are stating it represents a draw down in consumer inventory and a reduction of government spending. The market was unconcerned today so what's the deal?

I say your response is indicative of why the right wing is in so much trouble.
It's purpose is to trash Obama at all costs and not to look at any underlying data.
Your dislike (hatred?) of Obama is pathological.
Mine on the other hand is more considered and rooted in his conservatism.

highboy said...

Undisputable facts:

1. Obama blamed and still blames Bush for the economic collapse yet twice now has forced Congress into extending his tax cuts.
2. Obama's deficit in 4 years is greater than not only that of Bush but of every president in U.S. history combined.
3. Obama while a Senator said raising the debt ceiling was a sign of "leadership failure". He then went on to raise it himself while President and is about to battle to do it again.

Crabby Old Man said...

What part of my post did you have a problem understanding? Or do I have to lay it out for you again, because if I do, there's a whole lot most that i left out of my original comment. But actually, all you have to do is look at our country now and look at it four years ago and you'll have your answer, and yes, even when George Bush was in office. Even you should be able to see that,
you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist, or a rocket scientist to recognize.
The ONLY question is whether he is intentionally trying destroying America, or is he that stupid and incompetent that his socialist policies and actions are destroying America! The answer may be yes to both.
Again, lets look at the Facts:

The deficit caused by Obama,he has added more to the National Debt than any other President in the history of the country.
The loss of jobs.
The destruction of America’s wealthy people.
Increase of food prices, and gas,due to his new regulations
Increase in fuel prices due to Obama;s insane reason not to go forward with the pipeline.
In the four years since Obama Took Office, America has lost 26-,000 jobs and the unemployment rate has increased from 7.8 percent to 8.7 percent.
In February 2009, Obama said that he would “cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office.” or he would not run for re-election.
But the warped, blind, sick liberals totally ignored and repudiated facts and re-elected him anyway.
And when os Obama going to make good on his promise to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon? Or is there “still plenty of time for that”?
And Obama promised that his health reforms would save American families $2,500 by the end of his first term! Errr, did that happen? I don’t think so.
Our Dear self-serving Leader Barack Obama also promised that he would restore America’s standing in the world. Errrr, that never happened either, in fact, just the just the opposite, Obama has made us the laughing stock of the world. The U.S. Image in the Middle East and in Israel has declined. In fact, by refusing to side with Israel, and by allowing Iranian nuclear program to continue, the terrorist Hamas and Palestinian’s strength has grown and are now recognized in the UN.
.And anyone who tells you otherwise, doesn’t know what they’re talking about. So either agree with me or call me a Racist, like your Progressive Brothers and Sisters. Frankly Dear, I don’t give a damn. Im' sick and tried of all of these ignorant Socialist Jerk-offs trying to tell me how to live my life.
Oh but I have yo give Obama credit for something... Osama bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.

Ducky's here said...

He's doing all that by himself, Grumpy? One powerful dude, I'll say. Must scare folks worse than Django.

But again you merely demonstrate the thesis. You can pile up a litany of claims to demonstrate he is trying to destroy the country with none of it rooted in much more than your own myths and prejudices and all you accomplish is to demonstrate how putting him out there as a straw man substitutes for real analysis by the right.

It's real Limbaugh and Beck flatulence.

highboy said...

Ducky the analysis is there, you're just ignoring it. Obama hasn't made more than maybe a handful of decisions that haven't had some negative impact on this country. The facts are already posted are just the start, and they are facts, not myths or prejudices.

Jarhead said...

Enough of this bullshit. Sure, Bin Laden’s dead, but what about General Motors?
They are dead as well, or they may as well be dead. . When General Motors faced bankruptcy, it faced it for one reason, the UNION! The United Auto Workers Union’s contracts put GM into that position. . But instead of allowing GM to go through the normal bankruptcy process, what happened? Obama threw $100 billion to them so that they could fix the problem . But all that it really solved was to force the GM bondholders to take pennies on the dollar while giving the United Auto Workers Union’s more graft.

And what did the taxpayers get form this? We put $42 billion into the pockets of the union and called it the “auto bailouts”, GM is still in a disaster, their stock was $33 per share in 2010. It now trades at just under $23 per share.
Did this save jobs? No, of course not. While Biden and Obama claim that they saved some 1.5 million jobs, and that General Motors is alive.

Sure General Motors is alive, yes, but they are still sick and still in hot water. They should have been allowed to go under. All Obama did with his stimulus was prolong the agony . Where else but in an American Union can you be a lazy bum who doesn’t do the job and never get fired? No where. If we had a president with guts and balls like Reagan instead of Buckwheat the pot head he'd fire them all including the Chicago teachers who went on strike and bring in real teachers hungry for work who want to actually teach kids to read. But No. We have to watch these stupid loud mouth ignorant union boobs on TV screaming how they have been wronged and have Obama throw them Billions. Give me a break. Is Biden kidding? General Motors is alive?
Also just for the record, if George Bush were still president, General Motors would still be just as alive and Obama bin laden would still be just as dead! Why? Because it was the intelligence that was developed by George Bush through Water boarding that we ultimately got bin Laden., and that’s a fact.

JonBerg said...


Per your last comment: I was once in the union (not by choice) that you speak of and you are SPOT- ON. In addition it is reported that 70% of GM's production takes place off-shore. Check out this link:

Conrad NY said...

Israeli warplanes attacked a military research center in Damascus province at dawn on Wednesday, Syria's military command said, denying reports that the planes had struck a convoy carrying weapons from Syria to Lebanon.

We all know that Syria has Iraq´s weapons of mass destruction, that the UN inspectors couldn't find.
Israel needs to tell Iran and Syria that if Israel is attacked with WMDs that they will suffer the consequences.

Anonymous said...

Another failed African gang that stil can't govern themselves!

Zimbabwe’s bank account has a balance of … $217

“Last week when we paid civil servants there was $217 in government coffers,” Finance Minister Tendai Biti said, according to The Telegraph. “The government finances are in paralysis state at the present moment.”

That last admission was an understatement not because of his assessment of paralysis, but because he implied the problem is only a recent one.

The country that was once considered southern Africa’s “breadbasket” for its fertile lands and rich mineral deposits has been experiencing slow but certain ruin due to more than three decades of largely despotic rule by President Robert Mugabe.

Mugabe and his cronies seem to be making off with most of the revenue:

Last year, Finance Minister Biti complained that government coffers had not received the promised $600 million in diamond revenues from a recently discovered rich deposit. Biti said that only one-fourth of that pledge has been received.

Overall, at least $2 billion worth of diamonds have been stolen from Zimbabwe’s eastern diamond fields and have enriched Mugabe’s ruling circle, international gem dealers and criminals, according to an organization leading the campaign against conflict diamonds.

Mugabe’s ruling clique. International gem dealers. Criminals. But we repeat ourselves.

Z said...

Ducky, you're sounding a tad less thoughtful and informed than usual.
Watch/read ALL the helps.

As if conservatives only want to hate Obama? We've got money in the markets, we have our lives invested in every way in this country and, yes, he's busy getting us into such hock we'll never recover, nor will our kids.

Gold or no gold......who gives a damn?

Z said...

it'd be wonderful if our country's balance at the bank was $217 in the black! HOW much in the hole are we? almost SEVENTEEN TRILLION!?

I'm seeing Gabrielle Gifford's making please about gun control and it's just so typical; we know horrible things happen, she's not an expert in this now because she was shot... it's all emotion and this is a very good example of why we're screwing up so badly.

Listen to the experts; grow up and learn that bad things happen and that all guns WILL NEVER BE PUT ASIDE..NEVER EVER. Yes, maybe good guys' guns, but the bad guys won't. EVER EVER EVER.
Then who's safe? Why's that hard to grasp?

Kid said...

Well, here's my report then.

The GDP number went from +3.1 in the 3rd Qtr 2012, to -.1 in the 4th quarter because the government spent mucho dollars in the defense industry. Creating RFP's that HAD to be fulfilled in the 3rd Qtr (You now Right Before the election)
In the 4th Qtr, defense spending cratered to tune of minus 28%, causing the GDP to reflect negative growth.

- out.

Kid said...

22MOON, I understand michele eats like a pig too. stuffing more in before the last load has been despatched and talking with a mouthful.


Yea, the less than no class has always been on display.

Kid said...

Z, gifford's

She is simply "some woman who got shot".

I don't think of her as a congresswoman, she got in because her husband was an astronaut so the name recognition is there and Tucson isn't a big town full of people who would be competition. She was merely a democrat stooge voting on issues the way her masters told her too.

She gets no respect from me for that. Then after she was shot, she made sure to keep her position without the slightest chance she'd be able to fulfill any of her duties as a paid stooge, until she qualified for the 'Lifetime of benefits awarded congress critters serving a minimum length of time". I have far less than zero respect for her and her husband, for that little screw job.

That she's "propped up" begging for gun laws that will help no one, least of all the school children everywhere is beyond pathetic.

None of this gun legislation will do school children any good.

If they were somehow able to disarm the country, then we'd be like England where people are routinely raped, mugged, home invaded, and murdered like birdies at the hands of serial kitty cat hunters.

It does make me sad we live with such incredible dumbasses who don't understand something this simple, let alne support having these communists take away THEIR right to defend THEIR OWN LIFE.

"Please disarm me so I have no ability to defend myself, wife or family from a small group of rapist thugs who will break into my house, abuse then kill us with baseball bats. Please take my protections!"

Unreal isn't it?

Kid said...

Anyone else noticing all the gun violence 'in the news' since the commies got their Gun Control mojo on?

Reporting more of what they don't usually? or government agents killing a few people here and there. Latest one the 15 yr old girl who was a "Majorette in one of obama's inauguration things"

Guy ran in short her in the back someone else in the leg and ran off, hasn't been found or identified.

Certainly not the 1st time government, in particular the communist democrats have killed people to work an agenda.

This is big stuff to them this gun control. Just as China was to bubba clinton.

Anonymous said...


" she's not an expert in this now because she was shot."

Right...and neither was Brady. Nor the one from LI who's husband got it on the LIR by that mad man Coleman. And now she's on her 5th term as a pro whiner.

Funny...after Reagan got shot...he never dissed 2A, did he? But Brady's got a whole multi million dollar gig going now...and so will the Tuscon tigress.

And now for years we'll be inundated with we were with Columbine. I'll wager Moose Moore is getting ready to make another 20 mill of of that one.

I read an article in the NYT today...and the comments on guns from the sad ass Bloomie storm troopers in that city would make Himmler mighty proud. Yes...these anus's would gladly get on a spiffy uniform with some trendy 5th Avenue riding boots.....and wip the non conformists to death.

And the polls show that the fascist Cuomo should have been caught with a hooker rather than pass an unconstitutional getting the sheet beat out of him in public anger and opinion. They call themselves "Democratic" do most dictators like the NK's and the East Germans...and on and on. The new Nazi's.....socialist demrats.

And KID...

If I were a conspiracy minded man....I might think the same thing is going on.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Z: I just want to say, you look quite demure and comfortable reading that book in your jeans.

Kid said...

Any politician who took the oath to support the constitution and is now pushing gun control should be impeached.

Z said...

Kid, I've had the same exact thought.

And this morning a guy goes into a school bus, tells the driver "I want a KID!" and the driver won't give him one so the driver's killed.

He got a kid and was in hiding..with a gun. I don't know what happened.

People do these insane things for ATTENTION...shall we blame the gun?

It's downright WEIRD how shooting are EVERYWHERE in the news these days, since Obama decided this needs more attention than OUR ECONOMY, then JOBS FOR OUR PEOPLE.


oops !

Z said...

Imp and Kid, I'm glad you agree. These people get SUCH renown for having had something happen to them. I feel BADLY, for her and Brady, terrible! It's awful, but suddenly Obama's got her blabbing against guns?

Ed..thanks! :-) I do have dark hair and I do sometimes wear jeans!

Kid said...

Z, the pervert and the kid he took are in an 'underground bunker'. The cops are outside the bunker and at last I heard which was end of day were too afraid to go in and get the kid.

So he's in there being raped with the cops (who will protect us once we're unarmed) milling around outside like the coward POS they are.

Now that S* deserves some language.

Kid said...

z, Here ya go.

"MIDLAND CITY, Ala. A gunman holed up in a bunker with a 6-year-old hostage kept law officers at bay Wednesday in an all-night, all-day standoff that began when he killed a school bus driver and dragged the boy away, authorities said.

SWAT teams took up positions around the gunman's rural property and police negotiators tried to win the kindergartener's safe release."

If it was me in there? I'd be begging for those cops to come in and if I die in the process so be it. Better than being at the mercy of some 65 yr old all night and all day and God Knows how much longer.

There are things worse than death.

Course, I have something on the ball going on upstairs. I'd also be causing as much pain to that POS IF he was abusing me as I could and I'd be dead by now. If I was just sitting there un-abused it's a different story.

We'll have to see how it unfolds.

And that's a fact. When I was 7 we had homo's trying to pick us up in their speed boats down at the banks of the Ohio river just North of Pittsburgh. If they pressed it, we'd pummel them with the unlimited supply of rocks underneath the 4 sets of train tracks that ran along the bank.

Anonymous said...


" If they pressed it, we'd pummel them with the unlimited supply of rocks underneath the 4 sets of train tracks that ran along the bank."

Ahhhh....the good ole days...when men were men and boys would beat the crap out of sissies.

We had them too....and they were reviled.

They Say/We Say said...

As we look out the window, after hearing a lot of shouting and a gun shot or two and helicopters, we see soldiers running around the neighborhood.
Yes they were running WAR Games in the local neighborhood here in Houston. Did not tell anyone---Mayor or Police !
Some old folks were having a hard time keeping it together.
It did make the NEWS after some old Folks told the morning Local Talk Show Host.
He started Shouting about it on the Radio.
Michael Berry was once a Houston City Counsel Member now Radio Talk Show Host.
That got the Ball Rolling and the Urban Warfare Games Made the News.
And now the Military announced their Presence in Galveston for Games tonight!
Do you think they are practicing for DOOR TO DOOR GUN CONFISCATION?

JonBerg said...



If America has one bit fortitude left, look for a lot of 'body bags'!

They Say/We Say said...

This happened in the 1990's But, with U.N. Soldiers. People called in, some were Police Officers and the other Radio Station Owner who is a State Senator got a Rep from the Military to come on the Radio and the Police and the Military Rep got into arguments about how the Games were played. The rep claimed they were not using live ammo.
The Sheriffs Deputy told him he pulled live rounds out of the brick building--and you should have heard the two step the Military Rep tried to do, talk about spin.
And another time a helicopter hit the ground and turned over---that got the Police and News Team on the Ball.
This time it is U.S. Military.

Anonymous said...

@ They Said

"This time it is U.S. Military."

Just what we're waiting for from the Kenyan / Indonesian / Hawaiian King?'s against the law and the Constitution to deploy US soldiers on US soil against citizens.

If this POS...this scumbag fascist...he'll be the second POTUS in history that will start another civil war and the secession of at least 35 states. And he needs to be impeached if he calls for that.

He can stick his "Executive" Orders up Moocheles fat ass.