Saturday, January 19, 2013

Things you'll learn:

You'll learn from this video:
1.  How the left's railroading hidden bills within others to get them passed.
2.  That those we elect have to vote without time to read.

We have to live with this?

And, please, leftwingers...we don't care WHAT you think of Rand Paul;  this is important and you just have to get past your Alinsky challenges and try to address THE TOPIC.  I would appreciate links showing this happened as often during the Bush administration.  If it did, it's WRONG.

Thanks.

z

33 comments:

The Question Man said...
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conservativesonfire said...

There is an agenda to be achieved so there is no time for formalities. Insanity!

The Question Man said...
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Ducky's here said...

1. How the left's railroading hidden bills within others to get them passed.
2. That those we elect have to vote without time to read.
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No, what we will learn is that the fringe right is so naive they don't know that this is how congress works.

Left or right, this is how it has always worked.
So what do we do about it? Do it the Rand Paul way? Take any serious issue, tack on the word "Obamacare" and howl at the moon?

Ducky's here said...

Question man, do you actually compose that stuff?

Sort of a stream of consciousness (or unconscious in this case) Joycean thing?

Z said...

Question Man...do you get mad, write comments, then spread them to blogs? You're so wrong and so off topic, I'm not sure what this is...? wow

Joe said...

Ever since I have been blogging, I have advocated a Constitutional Amendment that restricts a bill to one topic only, no riders, no earmarks, no nothing.

You want a bridge built in your district, Dear Congressman, have the guts to bring it up as a separate bill and vote on it. See how far you get.

"But we'll never get everything done we want done!"

Good!

Z said...

Ducky, that´s clearly not true. Nobody doesn´t know bills have hidden bills inside them so your insult is wasted, but if you watch the videos you could better contribute here. I think Paul has a point....it is just that you can´t allow it to sink in.

Mindy B, said...

I learned that 0bama, Biden and the rest of his comrades are not capable of speaking one word that is true

Z said...

Mindy, but he looks SO sincere !

i cannot type here today because i cannot figure out how to get the a with an umlaut off of where I should get an apostrophe ...and my y is a z and vice versa...this has happened before and I do not remember how to solve it...my computer helper is in France, so it might be a while before I will be back.

This is not on my email but only here at the blog. I type a y and get a z...I type an apostrophe and get an a with an umlaut over it...man

if anybody can help, please do....I swear the universe is telling me to stop blogging about 1000 times and 1000 ways a day.

Oh my! Why question man just removed his comments is curious. think he realized how uninformed and bigoted he truly sounded..I would type a question mark but I cannot find it.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Duck: don't conflate that Rand (whom I'm suspicious of) used Obamacare as an example of how bad the process is with his recommendation for fixing the process.
Remember when Obama said all legislation would be on the web for examination before voting?
Hahahahahahahahahhahahaha. O my ribs hurt.
I suspect that porking up was what was wrong with the Sandy Relief legislation, but when the pork was challenged, the challengers were demonized.

Anonymous said...

This is what I have learned! Liberals are evil and I cannot stand dealing with them any longer.
1. Liberals want to suffocate you with laws and regulations.
2. Liberals care more about the criminals than the victims of crime.
3. Liberals want to imprison someone defending themselves longer than the criminal who commits the crime.
4. Liberals detest free thought and are extremely narrow minded.
5. Liberals want NO ONE to be able to defend themselves with anything.
6. Liberals will lawyer you to death.
7. Liberals hate ALL firearms and guns, stun devices, pepper sprays, knives, any type of self defense.
8. Liberals are extremely stupid and have no desire not to be stupid.
9. Liberals want to trash and burn the U.S. Constitution.
10. Liberals insist that you always be politically correct.
11. Liberals are some of the most intense phonies around.
12. Liberals ONLY respect the 1st. Amendment if only what they want is spoken.
13. Liberals believe that a liberal government knows what is best for you ALWAYS.
14. Liberals would tax you more than any king of the past has ever done.
15. Liberals want everyone to follow every mindless trend or fad.
16. Liberals talk compassion for victims, yet make magnitudes of victims by taking away people’s self defense.
17. Liberals are some of the most superficial individuals alive.
18. Liberals want a constitution with one rule, obey the government.
19. Liberals look at life and society through very narrow horse blinders.
20. Liberals have all sorts of ideas to problems that don’t work.
21. Liberals would disarm the military protecting the country if they could.
22. Liberals usually have no personalities and bore people to death with meaningless government or legal crap.
23. Liberals blame non-liberals completely for criminals acting the way they do.
24. Liberals are very strong blind conformists.
25. Liberals have a motto; the government and criminals are your friends.
26. Liberals would protect the environment for the speckled flat tailed manure worm over creating 50,000 jobs.
27. Liberals talk about civil rights for everyone, yet try to ban displays of Christmas.
28. Liberals usually have very WHINY voices, always whiny attitudes.
29. Liberals want to force you to purchase ONLY what they deem acceptable.
30. Liberals want to fine you several hundred dollars for not recycling an aluminum can.
31. Liberals will severely mourn the execution of a mass killer much more so than the victims.
32. Liberals use affected catch phases such as ‘time out’ or ‘time in’, normally reserved for toddlers, for everyday use with adults.
33. Liberals are massive cowards and admire and look up to the criminals for strength.
34. Liberals have a rule when attacked by a criminal, roll up in a ball and suck your thumb.
35. Liberals want the criminal to sue you if you defend yourself and in any way that hurts the criminal, even emotionally.

Anonymous said...

36. Liberals insist you hug everyone and touch each other even when you have the flu.
37. Liberals are famous for getting into your face and your space about even trival non-important issues.
38. Liberals want to vaccinate you to death, even against pathogens you are in no danger of catching.
39. Liberals want to outlaw toy plastic guns of all types for children, as they think it teaches them violence.
40. Liberals hate bullies, yet fully encourage the bullying of people by the state if they exercise their freedom of speech too much.
41. Liberals totally hide true violent crime statistics of unarmed population centers.
42. Liberals want all hunting and fishing outlawed.
43. Liberals cannot stand preppers/survivalists, they want EVERYONE to line up in miles long columns of people for fema crumb handouts after disasters.
44. Liberals want everyone to behave and act like insect drones.
45. Liberals classify as any criticism of a race or nationality as a hate crime.
46. Liberals feel more sorry for the serial rapist with AIDS that society did this to, than the rape victims.
47. Liberals are either absolute control freaks or absolute desiring to be absolutely controlled.
48. Liberals want to make people that are mavericks, the criminals of the state.
49. Liberals want you to live and die by the credit card.
50. Liberals have made going into debt into an artfulness.
51. Liberals would rather have cheap Chinese junk than good solid manufacturing jobs in the U.S.
52. Liberals nickel and dime you to death.
53. Liberals have no sense of humor and really only have a good laugh when taxes go up.
54. Liberals get aroused at words like; higher taxes, gun control, more laws, big government, Barack Obama.
55. Liberals are wonderful at censoring anything not liberal.
56. Liberals would make breathing the air a tax, if they could get away with it.
57. Liberals take the fun out of everything.
58. Liberals turn their children into adults with no ambition other than to get as much welfare as possible.
59. Liberals have two favorite occupations; lawyers and tax agents.
60. Liberals have a way overblown opinion of themselves and other fellow liberals.
61. Liberals believe all parts of the gun are evil, not that the criminal is evil, just the gun.
62. Liberals have a deep hatred of anyone that talks about defending themselves against the poor criminals.
63. Liberals truly when they talk, no sense comes out, just noise.
64. Liberals secretly worship karl Marx.
65. Liberals don’t leave people alone, they heckle someone until they give in on anything.
66. Liberals would force you to be monitored 24 hours a day, this is their dream.
67. Liberals are masters of making people feel guilty for something that was not their fault and over practically anything else.
68. Liberals override logic, reason, and basic sense with feelings, especially for the criminal.
69. Liberals believe that a criminal has the right to be kept safe anywhere, included inside your home while holding a weapon on your family.
70. Liberals would not come to the rescue of a person being attacked, they would just call 911.
71. Liberals will legally try to loophole you to the ends of the Earth just to prove they are in control.
72. Liberals are the sneakiest characters alive and will lie, and fully believe their lies, to get what they want.
73. Liberals have evil intentions behind those golden words they say that their only want to benefit society.
74. Liberals would amend the freedom of religion right in the Constitution to exclude anything with God in it.
75. Liberals make regular household items into contraband like non-water saving toilets.

Ed Bonderenka said...

nvnaBTW, what Joe said.

Anonymous said...

I think you may not have a US keyboard selected in your control panel.

Helper in France? Come on....google a question...or youtube. There's zillions of people that can help.

Anonymous said...

76. Liberals flood the system with laws and regulations, that a lawyer can’t keep up with, so they get to fine as many, ignorance of the law, people as possible.
77. Liberals make people forget about what freedom truly means in liberal strongholds.
78. Liberals attempt to pass laws to make everyone follow the crowd, the herd.
79. Liberals expect you to never question authority or them.
80. Liberals want the police to act like Nazi Gestapo of Soviet KGB to be as menacing as possible to install fear of authority.
81. Liberals have no idea or concept of being fair or what justice really means.
82. Liberals automatically label anyone that comes with a non-conforming idea as a radical conspiracy trouble maker.
83. Liberals can publish the names of honest law abiding gun owners, but would call it a civil rights violation if all welfare recipients’ addresses were published.
84. Liberals ultimate tax plan is that you get to keep nothing from your paycheck.
85. Liberals like to blame a certain race for unfair treatment in the distant past of another certain race for why that certain race commits more violent crime now.
86. Liberals want to make cash money illegal, as well as prohibiting owning gold, silver, or any precious metal.
87. Liberals say they can’t stand criminal profiling, but certainly do this with anyone that wants to keep their firearms for protection.
88. Liberals will blindly and automatically accept anything written by a professional as fact.
89. Liberals create restaurant police to make sure you can’t be served what they deem too much or bad for you.
90. Liberals want to abolish states rights and make everything federal.
91. Liberals are extremely radical when it comes to their idealism and capable of real craziness when someone disturbs a bat cave or some mouse’s home.
92. Liberals emphasize words in cutesy manners to make themselves appear less threatening and totally in control.
93. Liberals have little or no morality and behave mostly on animalistic impulses with bizarre weirdness.
94. Liberals want all voting precincts within 500 feet of a welfare office.
95. Liberals will fully support the worst most evil and perverted movies and yet try to take away good honest people’s self defense in real life.
96. Liberals will stand on a soap box over the graves of gunshot victims to further their agenda to disarm everyone.
97. Liberals would be the ones that try to force everyone to have a tracking ID chip implanted into everyone’s hand or head.
98. Liberals fully believe in equal opportunity employment for everyone, as long as they are fellow liberals.
99. Liberals want to classify and have put into mental institutions anyone and everyone that is not a conformist to the liberal control authority.
100. Liberals have no idea the value of money and will spend themselves, their country, the world into complete despair and utter bankruptcy.
This is but 100. There are thousands of other legitimate reasons why liberals have a true stench about them.

Ed Bonderenka said...

and of course, some of the captcha phrase worked its way into my comment.

JonBerg said...

Great post today! I forwarded the video and Anon's list RE: Liberals, to many!

Anonymous said...

Good News:

From ABCNews

“In Crime, a Remarkable Trend”

“Preliminary FBI data released yesterday indicate a remarkable decline in reported crime in this country – one that, contrary to some expectations, accelerated last year despite the deep recession. If the results hold steady in a final assessment next fall, the violent crime rate will have fallen by 44 percent from its recent peak in 1991.

That’s our own figure, based on an extrapolation of the preliminary FBI figures.


It suggests we could see a final estimate next fall of 425 violent crimes per 100,000 people – down from 758 per 100,000 at its recent high 19 years ago, and its lowest since 1973″

Anonymous said...

BTW....

Great Britain with a complete self defense ban...is:

2100 per 100,000!

The US is way down the list...European gun crime is higher.

FreeThinke said...

Joe said:

"Ever since I have been blogging, I have advocated a Constitutional Amendment that restricts a bill to one topic only, no riders, no earmarks, no nothing."

You took the words right out of my head before i could get them down, Joe. ;-)

You have, of course, identified the crux of the problem.

The trouble is that Ducky is right in that this (I've always thought outrageous) way of doing business has been entrenched for a very long time, and is, therefore, accepted as Standard Operating Procedure.

No one in power EVER wants to give up ANY of their power voluntarily, so this Great Flaw in our system is unlikely ever to be corrected.

Now, if we could elect only saints to serve in government ...

Yes, and it would be nice if pigs had wings and hell froze over too, wouldn't it? ;-)

Waylon said...

I can't believe that there is even a question of passing a bill into law without taking the time to read and debate what is in the bill.

What sort of sane society would even consider enacting laws blindly? Where is this world heading with this sort of insanity coming to the fore? It shouldn't even be a question of right/left, that phony to me. It's just what is expected by any citizen who entrusts an elected official to be in this position.

Kid said...

Here's a picture of the current presidential and congressional leadership

Rules? screw that! they all say. Rand makes good points then at the end wants to make another rule? :)

There is no one fighting for us. I'll believe in the tooth fairy before I'll believe in this "checks and balances" thing I learned about in school.

It's up to the people, and unfortunately the majority of the voting people support all this.

Trying to get anyone in government to cover for us is a waste of time. Time for plan B.

Z said...

Kid, what is your PLAN B??

did you hear Obama the other day? I got tears in my eyes as I heard a sitting American president who simply doesn't want half of America's thoughts counted.
THe belittling comments about Conservatives, the nasty digs at FOX when the left is SO far worse in their rhetoric.....the implications...it was so painful. I just can't get used to a schoolyard bully calling us names, \practically, as our leader.
I felt dirty and so sad. just awful

Kid said...

Z, I won't listen to or watch that POS.

he's an insult to civilized society let alone America. Notice I don't capitalize anything that refers to him.

Plan B. Z, It's a very detailed and complicated plan ! It relies on the element of surprise as well ! I simply can't discuss it with anyone, tho I will need everyone's help. ;-)

Anonymous said...

looks like you fixed you keyboard / language / regional settings?

Good job.

Kid said...

Here is a pretty good article I read about obama's "grotesque" use of children discussing such a serious subject as the mass murder of 5-6-7 year old kids and then gun control.

It was very grotesque. How about a meeting on the budget or Iran's nukes - let's get 40 kids and see what they think.

It's all wrong now.

Or How About This biden explaining to the NRA guy that the government can't enforce the laws they have so they must enact more laws. And do it without laughing.

Z said...

Wow, Kid. It's SO much worse than most of us even think.

And the Republicans are cowed by the media and (I believe) something way bigger than the media to SHUT UP and LET IT ALL HAPPEN.

Won't ONE person "in the know" love this country enough to tell the truth to us all? HOW could this administration get away with so much?????

THe letters by the kids were SO clearly not written by kids but Obama says they were SMART KIDS :-)
I wonder how many black kids attended Sandy Hook in CT, by the way. I remember watching the children leaving the school and the safe house nearby and didn't see one black child but they found one for the stage. Not saying they made him up, but...odd.

Anyway, when the GOP TRIES in the very small ways they have to fight this president back, Axelrod's got such an amazing comeback that Obama parrots that it's positively scary...Axelrod is VERY GOOD. He beats Carville in evil and amazingly convincing belittling remarks...Obama would be nowhere without Axelrod.

Kid said...

Z, Thoughts:

The repubs are afraid of being tagged racists and have even conceded they must somehow move to the left to gain power again. I noticed a comment by Krauthammer - basically the repubs should wait for socialism to fail then let people see the benefits of conservatism again. That's going to take a while..
I think the repubs should stand down, vote present and announce it weekly. The country voted for this, we won't stand in the way. Let us know how your decision worked out in 4 years. The dems are going to do what they want. the repubs can only take the blame for it if they keep trying to pretend to fight it. Exception for gun controls.
Opus has a great post about guns at her place.
Again, everything obama does is staged and fake. his whole life is fake.
As far as axelrod and others, they are at war with America, they will do or say anything, and they lie 24/7.

How about the lying about the school where obama's kids go being protected by secret service. (Interesting the initials are SS -history rhymes) The fact is that they have and have had 12 private security people and would have them regardless if the POS's kids went there or not.
The NSA's point is valid. obama and many politicians if not all exempt themselves from situations the rest of us have to live with.

You'd think that would even PO the braindead ducks, daves, and libtards but No I guess.

Anonymous said...

What Obama and his advisers appear to have overlooked is that it doesn't matter one jot what children think of guns, or anything else for that matter: politics is an adult business, and should be shaped by adult arguments, not childish fears.

The use of children to front a potentially big overhaul of Americans' constitutional rights is really about silencing dissent, exploiting the wide-eyed innocence of worried children to try to shame those adults who still dare to say: "But what about my constitutional rights?" Indeed, it is normally only the most censorious, authoritarian regimes or groups that use children to front or follow through political campaigns.

Children are perfect fodder for moralistic political campaigns because they are naturally and naively moralistic, seeing the world in brutally black-and-white terms. That the current campaign to overhaul the Second Amendment now uses children as some of its chief spokespeople is very revealing – it reveals just how cynical and unthinking this campaign is, and that it is driven more by childish fear and simplistic morality than by that old adult pursuit, politics.

Anonymous said...

What Obama and his advisers appear to have overlooked is that it doesn't matter one jot what children think of guns, or anything else for that matter: politics is an adult business, and should be shaped by adult arguments, not childish fears.

The use of children to front a potentially big overhaul of Americans' constitutional rights is really about silencing dissent, exploiting the wide-eyed innocence of worried children to try to shame those adults who still dare to say: "But what about my constitutional rights?" Indeed, it is normally only the most censorious, authoritarian regimes or groups that use children to front or follow through political campaigns.

Children are perfect fodder for moralistic political campaigns because they are naturally and naively moralistic, seeing the world in brutally black-and-white terms. That the current campaign to overhaul the Second Amendment now uses children as some of its chief spokespeople is very revealing – it reveals just how cynical and unthinking this campaign is, and that it is driven more by childish fear and simplistic morality than by that old adult pursuit, politics.

Z said...

Anonymous..good points...the left uses kids a lot. I wasn't AS outraged that he used them at that signing, but the more I read Kid and others, and think about it, I think it wasn't right.
Also, can't a PRESIDENT teach children good manners by SHAKING THEIR HANDS instead of walking by "high fiving" them? What a DAMNED JERK.
TEACH THE KIDS...even if you don't know better, Obama.

God, I detest the man...Lord, forgive me.


Kid...of all the times to get a cold and rely on some TV these next two days... and the inauguration's on. I hope there are some really good TCM movies!

Meet The Mess's John Gregory, too, bemoans guns in school, but HIS KIDS' SCHOOL HAS THEM :-)
Michael Moore HATES GUNS but his bodyguard has them. Rosie McD hates guns, but her bodyguards have them. See, apparently, it's okay for THEM to be safe. not US.