Saturday, May 17, 2014

Don't kill this young woman!!

I'm hoping that Mrs. Obama tweets with a sign that says "Bring back OUR girl" in response to a Christian girl being hanged for standing by her belief of faith in Jesus Christ  ....think she will?

Yes, Mrs. Obama...I'm hoping you and your husband do something to save this Christian girl, pregnant and refusing to turn her back on her faith.    She was raised Christian but the court in Sudan considers her Muslim.   She could be hanged.

Mrs. Obama...................are you there?

Z

100 comments:

Constitutional Insurgent said...

She could at least be bothered enough to pose for another sad-faced photo op.

Always On Watch said...

Although this story has garnered coverage in all the media, I have strong doubts as to Michelle Obama's expressing concern.

Always On Watch said...

FYI...Meriam Ibrahim is not trending on Twitter right now.

Red Herring said...

Please. The first lady is far too busy ensuring that every child in America gets a stalk of celery for lunch instead of a bag of potato chips to care about the fate of a non-Moslem.

sue hanes said...

Z - I hope Michelle Obama requests that the girl not be hanged. I can't imagine that being a Christian and also being pregnant is enough to have a girl hanged. That would really be barbarian.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Funny how we look for Michelle Obama's intervention instead of her wuss husband's.
Maybe he'd do something significant.
Draw a red line or something.

Bob said...

This attitude and act of the Sudanese government speaks volumes about mainstream Islam in Africa. Why should we expect it to be any different elsewhere?

My prayers are for the lady and her family.

Opinionated Me said...

If there is anything worthy of mockery in the news today, it has to be it that stupid thing Moochie did with the “Bring Back Our Girls” sign. The lood on her face was as phoney as can be, and the whole idea of our “First Lady with a “Hash tag campaign was pointless, meaningless, and insignificant gesture.. Hash tags don't free hostages. Action does. Internet campaign, if you can call it that, is just a way for politicians and Hollywood celebrities to feel good about themselves.



If you CARE about these 300 girls, then call your Congressperson and tell them to get U.S. resources involved in resolving the issue.

Woodsterman (Odie) said...

She'd have a much better chance if she were Mooselimb.

Z said...

I don't look for Michelle to do anything; what CAN she do? She knows that when she looks so sad and holds that paper up. But, it kind of relieves the administration .."Look, they care!" As if.
Not that I don't think they care about any of this, but I don't see much going on.
I'd rather they completely ignored much of this that's going on than saber rattle, draw red lines, and do ZILCH.
I'd say this: "Just SHUT UP...you've driven America into a spot where we can't afford to help, we have people here hurting more than in some third world countries....so do something HERE and quit worrying about "your girls"...we have REAL AMERICAN GIRLS in trouble. Mrs. Obama ,how's about talking about immorality and the emotional problems associated with cheap and meaningless sex and abortion? What do you think, Michelle?"

Z said...

In the meantime, Mrs. O's in Topeka telling American high school students at their graduation that things are as bad as they were during Dr King's era. Segregation is the same, etc.

Man, what PLANET is SHE ON? I know there are still high schools where kids don't mix much, but I know a few where they DO, subconsciously, happily, because the administration makes them ALL wanted, all feel equal.

Mustang said...

Telling children that things are as bad as they were during the 1960s is part of the Obama narrative. Given her past, given her philosophy, there is no other “line” for Michelle. The good news is that in ten years, these students may recall that the First Lady was present for their graduation, but I doubt if they will be able to recall what it was she said. If they do remember, then hopefully they will realize that Obama was full of crap ... On the other hand, Kansas is where Sebelius served as governor —so who really knows what kind of forage exists inside their malleable heads?

As for the young woman, I do not think there is much that anyone can do for her. We can pray for her, of course ... but that will not save her life. Let us ask our Father in Heaven to accept her soul with great rejoicing; by her death, she has lived her faith.

Z said...

Mustang, what IS with you and making me cry?
Beautifully said. And her baby will be in heaven with her.
Pray for her husband.
But let's keep hoping something happens to save her!

Ed Bonderenka said...

I'm amazed at the outcry from the peaceful, moderate Muslim community.
I'm sorry, I meant I'd BE amazed.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

I think Z is spot on. If we can't take any tangible action in this case [and we really can't]....we shouldn't expend the current effort. Taking to social media with pouty faces and placards comes off as lazy mockery.

Z said...

Ed, wouldn't that go far?
Liberals here even constantly stand up for Islam "only a few are terrorists, how can you hate a whole religion"...which, of course, is ridiculous but they feel cozier thinking that way, and OH, so much higher browed.

But, you see, all we keep asking for here is MODERATE ISLAM to come forward! Just say "THAT STINKS!"

Where are liberals when Christians are being KILLED?
They, and muslims, are quiet.

it's heartbreaking, really.

It would do so much for the muslim community, who I KNOW doesn't want us dead!, to SPEAK UP. Yet, they remain quiet.

Baysider said...

No, I don't think she will. This crowd has a natural resistance to anything that suggests a deep expression of Christianity.

The theater of the first lady with the tweet sign is really cornball anyway. Juvenile. They could at least get the Clintonistas' PR folks on it - the ones who set up Bill Clinton's 'touching' moment arranging rocks in a cross on Omaha beach. Outrageous, but at least he could bring it off.

We've abandoned the moral high ground. Who cares if we rack our shotgun if they know there are no shells in the chamber?

Baysider said...

I could only wish her baby would be in heaven with her. They will allow her (I think 2 years) to nurse, then kill her. Her poor children will be hot potatoes who will be shunted into an Islamic hellhole, without our prayers. Elian Gonzalez again. My heart breaks.

Sam Huntington said...

So far in 2014, the US government has provided $146.6 million to Sudan in “humanitarian” assistance.

Why?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

For the same reasons we've been sending millions of dollars to Sudan for the past 25 years...expensive and naive foreign policies.

It's long past time to turn off the spigot around the world.

Z said...

Baysider; so the execution isn't imminent? I haven't read that much up on it.
They'll just wait long enough to have her nurse the next little muslim with murder of any non muslim in its heart, I guess.

As for foreign aid?
We're DONE. Or at least keep the bribes quiet; we can't kid ourselves into thinking none of the myriad "private" bribes we've made over the years haven't worked.

Z said...

totally off topic;

I'm sitting here at my desk and two young ladies are at the condominium pool under my window.

I have never heard the word "LIKE" more than I have in the last ten minutes.

"He LIKE said 'where are you?'
and so, I LIKE said 'I'm here, LIKE where are YOU?'" "Then we were LIKE drinking wine and I LIKE missed my connection at the airport and LIKE I couldn't believe it.."

It's LIKE taking all I have to not go down and LIKE strangle her :-)

Impertinent said...

@Z:

" the word "LIKE" more than I have in the last ten minutes."


Listen to a one minute speech by Caroline Kennedy...you'll hear twice that number of "likes".

Baysider said...

The reason her 18-month old son is being kept in prison with her is because his Christian father isn't allowed to have custody. They certainly won't turn over the infant to him.

Z said...

Caroline Kennedy?
It makes people sound so stunted, in my humble opinion.
I'm not 'like-less' myself, but the times this girl today used it, was the TOPPER!

Z said...

Baysider, she's pregnant; that's why I mentioned she'd die with the child inside her...I didn't know she had an 18 month old child and it is in prison with her...it's the child inside her which I meant when I suggested the baby'd be in heaven with her!

Why is it that leftwingers here think Christians are intolerant but stand up for ANYTHING Islam, but let this kind of atrocity happen and they're quiet... ? (rhetorical question here)

Baysider said...

Understand. I found it on other articles that fleshed out the situation more. What a crime -- to keep her little boy in there and deprive him of his father and home. She might still be nursing him, too. Could be at that age.

This started when some relatives of her father (who left when she was 6, remember) went to the authorities about her 'illegal' status of being a Christian and married to an infidel. They will 'allow' her to nurse the infant, and execute when that period is over.

Please, please pray continually for Miriam. Here's where Ephes 6:18 can really go to work: "praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints."

Duckys here said...

Often international outcry will block these verdicts.

The court comes up with a reason for clemency, they save face and maintain their authority.

I'd sy it's almost certain that this isn't carried out.

Kid said...

My bet is Nada on the Christian woman.

Worse that that - Flotus standing with a Sign??? What Possible positive effect would that have on those muslum vermin??? I doubt they'd even belch over it.

Wide of the 'leader of the free world' turns herself into a bumper sticker over the lives of hundreds of girls?? WTF? Seriously, what else can be said?

And the USA? This is what your consequences from the USA if you do such evil? Did we even write them a letter telling them how angry we are????

You either do nothing or you do something substantive. But this is the mealy worthless nothing you get from libtards day in and day out.

Kid said...

And the freakin hashtag ! Holy * !
Will she go to these facebook page of these evil scum and 'unfriend them' ??? Oh Gosh, Dare She ??

This kinds of unbelievable disgusting worthless acts of election campaign motivated crap truly disgust me beyond words.

Kid said...

The Christian woman will only get a floutal tweet if she makes big enough news.

Kid said...

Z, no, they're letting her live 2 years after the baby is born actually.

Kid said...

All foreign aid is money laundering.

Baysider said...

Ducky has a point. How can we best be vocal? I used to write the Russian ambassador over dissidents and persecuted Christians in the USSR. And sent cards to the prisoner directly. They were very sensitive to publicity, and we learned what an impact thousands of cards to a prisoner in the gulag had - even if she never saw the cards. But, other than their crappy political system, they were basically 'normal' people, if you get my drift. I don't know about these Islamo loonies. The world's opprobrium did not stop them from blowing up ancient statues in Afghanistan. Is it too obvious to pressure our own government, such as it is, to cut the 'aid'? It didn't work too well when JFK threatened Diem with that to get him to put a cork in his sister-in-law (remember Madam Nhu?).

Z said...

Kid...'splain, as Lucy says to Ricky! :-)
I hadn't read that two years after the baby. Gee, that's big of 'em, huh?
I predict she doesn't die. But worthless pitiful little eyes with a piece of paper won't matter. Also, what's Mrs. O's sign including "our girls"?

Out for dinner .... see y'all later. xx

Baysider said...

Perfect, Kid! I have to embed that phrase in my brain bank.

Law and Order Teacher said...

Z,
I feel the same as Mustang. I don't think there's anything we can do. I only hope that the world will wise up and really see what this Sharia law is all about. And to think there are those among us who want this barbarianism to be part of our laws?

How is there any debate that there's anything redeemable in this seventh century culture? I know, I know, Christians burned apostates. Focus: Five hundred years ago. Evolution.

Kid said...

Z, I don't understand the 'our girls' either. In what way? Black girls? Nigerian girls? Girls belonging to the USA? It's lost on me.

Kid said...

Baysider, thanks. :)

Anonymous said...

#WIPEOUT ISLAM FOR THE SAKEOF HUMANITY

#CLOSE ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST MOSQUES

#CRUSH SHARIA

#WAGE HOLY WAR ON ALL MUSLIM HELL HOLES

#ARREST THEN DEPORT ALL IMAMS

That'd be a good start.

Kid said...

Anon, I think you're over-reaching given the inhabitants we share this country with. How about we at least get islam reclassified as a cult at least. That should light the fire, get non-muslums wondering and muslims to rethinking their passive aggressive invasion plans.

Or all turn violent and we'll have a turkey shoot. Just as well because this Isn't going to end peacefully, and giving them time only helps them.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"How about we at least get islam reclassified as a cult at least."

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

Anonymous said...

#ISLAM IS A CULT

#DECLARE ISLAM AN ENEMY OF FREEDOM

#OUTLAW THE CULT AND FASICM OF ISLAM

Anonymous said...

200 or 300 kidnapped Christian Nigerian girls don't think so I'll bet...

"is this tongue in cheek"...

Constitutional Insurgent said...

I'll bet not.....200-300 Nigerian girls don't have to worry about the Constitutionality of such an action.

Kid said...

CI, Tongue in Cheek? No.

How can a system based on world dominance through sadistic violence combined with gross human abuse be classified as a religion to be respected by all other beings on the planet?

Further, why can we not take the view that anyone who demands respect from other nations and individuals must provide somethings for the good of all mankind in return? What does islam provide anyone? Nothing. no products. No islam based hospitals. No islam based charities. No products. no services. NO THING.

A religion must conduct itself in such a way as to be respected at the least. Buddism, Hindu Every Other religion. Can you name one that is willing to kill anyone and everyone who does not submit to their belief?

I find it interesting you asked the question, except that you would never believe such a thing could happen. I don't either. I was just saying that going from CAIR having a back office in the white house and multiple daily meeting with the imbecile obama to a scorched muslum Earthe policy might be a bit much to ask.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

I'm just wondering how such a thing would work. What agency is responsible for classifying religions? And on what criteria?

You are incorrect however about Islamic hospitals civil services and charities. They're rampant across the Muslim world.

Anonymous said...

CI:

that's exactly why we shouldn't give a damn. let their "religion" commit any savagery or barbaric act imaginable...it's not against our laws...so who cares.

Anonymous said...

"They're rampant across the Muslim world"

Yea...so are the bodies.

Yea...so are their mortuaries which have to outnumber anything "good"they do. Read daily massacres in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan everyday. You going to preach the benefits of Islam now?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"You going to preach the benefits of Islam now?"

Why would I do that?

Anonymous said...

" What agency is responsible for classifying religions? And on what criteria?"

The Strategic Air Command and how many nukes to use on each shit hole they defile.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Well, thanks for the intellectual response........Kid and I were talking about this nation...not Middle East shitholes.

Anonymous said...

You asked what agency? I said SAC...they are in the US...NORAD too...Colorado Springs.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Kid and I were discussing the state of Islam in the United States...so unless you're advocating nuclear strikes on the homeland.....you're 'off target'.

Anonymous said...

"about Islamic hospitals civil services and charities."


Seems you're excusing them and have a soft spot for their...ummmm..."humanitarian facilities and deeds"? You know their maternity wards are bomb factories, don't you?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"Excusing them" for pointing out facts? I'll continue to have a serious discussion with Kid, if he so desires. I don't really have the time to educate someone on basic facts tonight. Have a good one.

Anonymous said...

Yea...go pull a 3 monkies...that's what libs do best.

Have a bad one...OK?

Anonymous said...

Using Islam and charities in the same sentence shows how ill informed you really are. And disingenuous too.

Kid said...

CI, islamic hospitals and charities. How many in the US?

Well, maybe it is more clear to look at it this way. 'Religions' are tax free enterprises in the US. In order to be tax free, you must conform to some list of prerequisites. I can't just start a Kid religion based on bikini's and the moon and expect tax free status, right? So what does islam provide in the US that affords them the right to tax free status, plus everything else they obtain thru the totally bogus CAIR. Is there a Council on American-Mexican(or any other group) Relations> nada. So why the muslums ?
Plus they don't even come close to meeting internationally accepted or USA mandated human rights requirements ! They sell 9 year old girls to 60 year old men as wives, polygamy ! They burned WACO to the ground but they won't even look sideways to a muslum and you Know it's all going on in the US. I'll bet you cops don't even go into Dearborn-istan MI.

PS - You can't even be a tax free enterprise in the US If you try to be a 501-c organization who happens to Not be Democrat.

What a trash heap. Wouldn't you agree?

Z said...

Anonymous, CI is NO liberal.

CI...can you give us some non Islamic sites that talk up contemporary Islamic hospitals and charities? I know Hamas is active in that business so they attract needy Muslims like Democrats give Obama phones. I'm not challenging you; I hope they exist in large numbers, but I can't find much that's remarkable about "Islamic hospitals"? I'd like to know.

Kid, I'm with you on the dissonance of much of islam in America. My prayer would be that muslims understand this IS America and not a Sharia-run country. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet thousands that a huge majority of muslims in America don't WANT Sharia Law here.
Islam as we hear about it now, killing young mothers for having been raised Christian, killing Christians around the world, having committed 9/11, the Tsarnaev (sp?) Brothers in Boston, etc etc etc, doesn't work in our free culture.
We all have also read of muslim men who've killed their wives here and how quickly it's covered up.

It's not compatible until the really terrifying nonsense of islam is gone. Reform.

Kid said...

Z, I realize this is a little dark, but what value do muslims who don't want sharia in America have ?

I don't see any. They aren't the leaders in the mosques. They hold no political weight. They don't even vocally oppose the muslim activists, such as the leader of CAIR in America that is on record saying America needs to be under sharia law. (The white house is Very friendly with CAIR) I say they aren't even part of the equation.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Kid, I'm not sure why [other than media sensationalism] you give CAIR so much thought.

Islam meets every IRS prerequisite for a 501(c)(3) organization, just as Christian churches do. Including US based Islamic charities:

http://www.guidestar.org/nonprofit-directory/religion/islamic/1.aspx

Nation-states have human rights records...religions do not. Which is a good thing for you, if you oppose granting equal civil liberties to minorities opposed by most Christian churches.

"I'll bet you cops don't even go into Dearborn-istan MI."

I'll bet that the Dearborn Police Department would disagree.

"You can't even be a tax free enterprise in the US If you try to be a 501-c organization who happens to Not be Democrat."

I've only had a little bit to drink...but this doesn't make any sense.

"What a trash heap. Wouldn't you agree?"

You'd have to clarify this a bit.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - Sorry, I was posting when you wrote yours. I'm not certain of Islamic hospitals in the US [I haven't checked], only charities. I have a decent scope of the charitable work they do in Islamic parts of the world, from both my tours in Iraq and AFG, as well as my current work, where I need to stay informed of those charities that serve as fronts for terror activities.

Z said...

CI, you're not sure why KID gives CAIR a thought? You don't know the kinds of pressures CAIR puts on a lot of American organizations? You don't know it's CAIR trying to stop a film about female mutilation that stands UP for women?
WOW.
We need to all give CAIR serious thought.
On many levels.

Kid, I believe it's the muslims who don't want Sharia whom we need to count on to prevent our country from falling into it.
Do you not think there are Muslims in America who DON"T mean us harm?
Have you heard of Zuhdi Jasser? He's a committed muslim who served in our Armed forces and is a physician in Arizona. He speaks all over about stopping Islamism terror and about the fact our FBI, etc., is not allowed into mosques and how ultimately dangerous that probably is, and he is fighting sharia law with all he's got. I've heard him speak in person and he's compelling.
We need thousands of Dr Jassers.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Shari'a law does not comport with the Constitution....as long as we uphold that fundamental rule of law...we shouldn't need to worry. It's when we allow our elected representatives to flout it, we open ourselves to precedent.

Z said...

CI, fine...tell us about the 'decent scope of charitable work' that doesn't include Hamas.
I'm pretty sure nobody here doubts there aren't good hospitals run by muslims, but I'd not say this is a particularly outstanding part of islam. Actually, I can't think of an outstanding part of anything islam. Except the quiet muslims who live here for freedom and don't want sharia law and regret 9/11.
if only they'd speak out in large numbers. And CAIR doesn't overcome them with threats.

Z said...

there is talk about shari law in parts of America...just the thought of it was a joke, but it's not funny anymore..it's too real a threat in some places.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - My point about CAIR is that it's actually not that much of a major player in Islam here in the US. It's certainly the group that gets the media airtime...but they're not the 'man behind the curtain'.

Kid said...

CI..... sigh. CAIR is the only organization in America that represents it's national group. Mex realtions? Irish Relations? Not what I'm saying? Good God.
Plus they have an office in the white house! They meet with obama on a daily basis ! Guess how many times obama meets with Christian groups or any other religious group.
I'll save you the trouble. ZERO.

Yea, I agree USA affords islams these benefits. I'm saying they Shouldn't.

Dearborn? BS. They practice sharia there and other places in the US. I've even read where some US judges recognize sharia. Which is BS.
It's an attitude like you just expressed that puts us on the express train to sharia.

islam is a cancer. the koran is a blueprint for conquest through sadistic deceptive violence. We are at war with these people but We don't seem to know it.

Kid said...

CI, CAIR is not the man behind the curtain? BS. Total BS

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"there is talk about shari law in parts of America...just the thought of it was a joke, but it's not funny anymore..it's too real a threat in some places."

What has been given some deference, is in the areas of civil and family arbitration, much like the same given to orthodox Judaism.

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Constitutional Insurgent said...

Sorry Kid...we'll have to disagree. I like to stay in the realm of realities not rhetoric.

Are you stating-as-fact that Dearborn PD doesn't patrol within the city limits? I'll, stand by for sourcing.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"Plus they have an office in the white house! They meet with obama on a daily basis ! Guess how many times obama meets with Christian groups or any other religious group."

You also stated-as-fact that there are zero Islamic charities. I'll stand by for sourcing.

Kid said...

Show me where they're making arrests for sharia based activities.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Shari'a practices within voluntary association are not illegal unless they violate US law.

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Kid said...

I go to google, and enter 'islamic charities in the US' and I don't see any coming up. I see some that have the tag line as being associated with terrorist organizations. Shocker huh.

The ball is in your court to provide evidence to the contrary.

Kid said...

CI. Sharia Violates US Law !

Good Lord !

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Perhaps you missed my earlier link, as well as the fact that I am required to know which Islamic charities are legitimate and which are not [in a particular part of the world].

http://www.guidestar.org/nonprofit-directory/religion/islamic/1.aspx

Constitutional Insurgent said...

No, Shari'a does not violate US law, unless it is incorporated into US law. You DO have a basic understanding of what Shari'a comprises....right?

Kid said...

CI. Perhaps you missed my point about any islamic charity in the US being associated with terrorist organizations. islam IS a terrorist organization afterall.

Your next comment about sharia is absurd. It prohibits women from being educated, allows polygamy, classifies women lower than dogs,
and encourages beating of women. What the hell is wrong with you. I'm done.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Well Kid, I'm here if you decide to read up on Shari'a....but once you classify an entire religion as a terrorist organization, I won't wait up.

Anonymous said...

"I'd be willing to bet thousands that a huge majority of muslims in America don't WANT Sharia Law here."


If if if if if if if if if if if if if if ......only IF...a huge majority would come out and be heard.

YET IT HAS NOT....REPEAT...HAS NOT...IN THE LAST 40 YEARS. But...we do have dopes like CI willing to parse, obfuscate, argue, ignore... TOTALLY and COMPLETELY what's before his idiotic face. And yet, actually DEFENDING sharia practices. OK...I think sharia is play for play the same as some tenets of NAZISM.

So...is it the parts of NAZISM that wanted to and has killed Jews more offensive than the parts of Sharia that wants to kill Jews and has by waging continual war against the state of Israel?

Or is that parts of NAZISM that believed that JEWS were sub human as opposed to the parts of Islam and Sharia that believes Jews were descended from pigs and monkeys?

WHICH ONE IS WORSE you silly coward? Name it...Go ahead and NAME IT. Of course you can attack me. It's easier for fools like you.

Jesus Christ....it's people like him who protect these savages sounding like some cheap ambulance chasing lawyer with a degree from Kellogg U....that parse, lie and refuse to face reality.

Islam is NAZISM you dope. There is no damn difference. Oh wait there is...the Nazi's made the mistake of not making or naming their barbarity...as a RELIGION....Hitler screwed up. Cause if he had.....we'd be seeing the Grand MUFTA and Hitlers Descendants united in the destruction or more Jews, Christians and "NON Believers" today.

CI...you sad, sad little man. We don't need any more "patriots" or defenders of barbarity like you.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Yawn......

Craig said...

Islam is NAZISM you dope.

Says the guy who wants to exterminate the Muslims.

Z said...

I believe we need to be careful of Islam in America.
That CAIR stifled a film dealing with female mutilation and blamed it on who made it instead of THE POINT, is typical and sad.
When more muslims like Dr Jasser start speaking out (and there are a few more), we have a chance.
Some of you need to look into honor killings here in this country.

Better safe than sorry...and that doesn't include "exterminating muslims" in any way, shape or form.

Therein lies a problem: Careful doesn't mean anything but CAREFUL. Except it also means WISE.

If one sees panels of American muslims speaking out, one sees that they feel the exact same way as they relate the atrocities they've either lived or know personally about and warn about it coming to our country.
I'm on their side; I believe them more than American Googlers who believe that the internet provides the truth.


Constitutional Insurgent said...

I agree that we should be mindful of Islamic practices that are destructive and illegal. Likewise we should be mindful of any religious paradigms that erode our Constitutional protections and civil liberties.

Z said...

CI, when I get that creepy feeling that it's the Christian vs Islam connection you'll now deny doing in your 'mindfulness,' I'll remind you that, as many Christian wives do themselves or their children in because of mental illness, etc (and it's incredibly few in comparison with most of our population...just thought I'd mention it before you or someone else does), we aren't into killing our young beautiful daughters because they dated an infidel (which is happening not infrequently here), or shooting Jews at Jewish Centers which happened in Seattle a few years ago and got hushed up faster than any horrible story I've ever known about, or a wife who didn't respect her husband (a radio team in CT) who was murdered by him...I could go on and on. Honor, you know.
No, Islam is something we need to be a bit more wary about.
Talk to a Muslim (or Muslim-turned CHristian as I believe Darwish and Gabriel are)... like Dr. Jasser or Noni Darwish, or Raheel Rasa, or Brigitte Gabriel, only a few muslims who are far more wary of islam than anything in Christianity.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - You exhibit a paranoia anytime I bring up being wary of allowing religious belief to trump Constitutionality or basic civil liberties. I'm not drawing any comparisons between Christianity and Islam. Clearly many Islamic fundamentalist practices are abhorrent on a scale not matched by the modern practice of Christianity.

But we should also be mindful of the danger of letting those differences enable unconstitutional behavior with excuses of 'it's not as harmful as Islam'. That's my point. Agree or disagree?

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Z said...

great. you've never mention that some Christians seem to push the constitution into a realm you don't agree with. OKAY! :-)
Have a nice day.

Z said...

There is only over sensitivity on my part when I know a person has used a one-off incident to tag all Christians, or interprets the constitution in ways many don't regarding religious freedom.

have a great day

Constitutional Insurgent said...

And what is this one-off and tagging of all Christians?

Kid said...

Z, I was wrong when I said the "moderate muslims" weren't part of the equation. They are. They're voters, who in one scenario, vote the radicals into power in countries like the USA who then find themselves outwitted and taken over without a whimper.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

It's so nice of 'anonymous' to come by with witty insults. There's not near enough of this treasured class of people on the internet.

Anonymous said...

And it shows how pitifully shallow and insecure you are when you have to hang out here to see if there's another one.

Your buttons have been pushed.

Sucker.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

I come by because I like Z's blog. Too bad you take a shit on it. Very classy of you.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm...a foul sucker too on day old blog.

I take a shit on you...not the blog.

Tick tock tick tock.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Look who came back to hang out and entertain me. When all you do is troll......you disrespect Z and her blog.