Friday, September 17, 2010

American school kids visit a mosque.........and pray

PLEASE see Brooke's VIDEO AT HER BLOG....HERE...see how a even a faithful follower finds fault in an Imam taking the small daughter of a friend to his bed ... (he thought the imam should have at least chosen "an older daughter of their host"!)
But THIS OTHER VIDEO BROOKE FOUND will BLOW YOUR MIND. That's about a school in Watertown, Massachusetts which took their kids to a mosque to 'see the architecture...'. A mother went along on this 'field trip' and took video of the kids, even some Jewish boys, bowing to Allah as they led them in 'worship' as part of the 'architectural tour'. The girls had to leave at that point, after having been told that women got the vote in Arabia long before they got it here: a complete lie, of course. The Imam who runs that mosque is in prison for terror ties.
There is a booklet about how to get American kids to consider becoming Muslims, saying that our schools have "poorly considered social studies curriculae.." and Muslims need to "...take advantage.." of that. The imam says our children "fertile ground..because children are receptive to new ideas.." THAT is what this mosque is about....paid for with Saudi money.
The mother who was so shocked, videoing what she was seeing, kept saying quietly
"Oh, my GOD!" but did NOTHING. She says she just wanted to go home. Very effective, huh? Then, "Mrs. Ostrich" waited for the teachers to speak up as the children bowed to Allah, but nobody did. She thought they were "afraid to offend."
When will that stop? Should she or the teachers not have spoken up?
By the way, this huge mosque is referred to as a "Center"....like New York's. Interesting, isn't it.
Please see the video at Brooke's and the video in the second link about that school trip, you will not believe what you see.

z

54 comments:

FrogBurger said...

It's f-ed up. I thought there was a separation of church and state.

I visited mosques on my own, with my parents. And I got my shoes stolen for the funny part :)

Z said...

that IS funny, FB!
that video was amazing.....I'm fed up, too, but nobody cares: I believe that our political correctness (saying only "Oh, my God!") could help them win TONS of hearts and minds ....did you hear the American convert docent say something like "the REAL GOD"? ya...

Z said...

"Allah is the one God, the ONLY GOD worthy of worship"...that's what she says.
And, of course, some might say "she was only representing Islam"...Right, to impressionable young kids who can discern. Right.:-)

JUST IMAGINE a public school class being taken to a church where a docent says "Jesus Christ is the one God, the ONLY GOD worthy of worship?" "GET THE ACLU, SUE THOSE NASTY CHRISTIANS!!!"...can you hear it?

FrogBurger said...

It's no even PC-ness, it's a mental disease deeply rooted in self loathing of Western values transmitted by the left.

It's frightening how they confuse everything and their utter lack of logic.

I hope the school brings the kids to a synagogue, a church, a buddhist temple to provide perspective to the kids.

FrogBurger said...

I hope the school gets a law suit on his "derriere."

Z said...

Oh, I doubt it, FB...I'm sure this won't even get national coverage...don't know if it got much in liberal Mass., which seems unable to understand the hypocrisy in my last comment about church v mosque.

No, we're sucking up to islam because we're afraid of them and churches are evil. The new America.

FrogBurger said...

Yes, we're becoming chickens. Goes back to my comment on the other post.

Rome crumbled because of the lack of courage and economic problems. We're just doing the same. Natural evolution of civilization.

The "barbarians" always take over the most advanced civilization.

FrogBurger said...

You know what, though? The left is playing with fire. All it does is create a nationalistic sentiment in the American population.

In France, the National Front benefited from that and is now strong again. The next election may be a socialist against Marine Le Pen, which is a pretty frightening. I have very moderate friends and family members who are so sick and tired of this kind of attitude from the left and the weakness of the right that they're now voting National Front.

Ducky's here said...

The folks in the rich folk's yard in Wellesley are at it again.

Tempest in a teapot.

FrogBurger said...

Ducky if you were concerned of the right wing crazies as you describe them, then you wouldn't poo-poo this kind of story. Because of the results in France I mentioned.

But you poo-poo because you mostly can't debate or win an argument. It's the lazy and childish way to discuss things.

Steve Harkonnen said...

Frog pretty much wrapped up what I was going to say in his first post above.

Duck, avoid the shock and awe of this post for a moment and try to see what we see: A blatant case of hypocrisy here. Separation of church and state my aunt fanny.

Catherine Barry said...

Frog dear, you hit the nail on the head... Childish and lazy = Ducky!

I can't help but wonder where is the ACLU in this matter. If children attended a public school and prayed a Christian prayer, I think they would be all over that like stink on a skunk! Personally, praying to a God invented by a pedophile and drunk probably makes the far leftistas smile. They do so love to spread their ignorance of things around to school kids.

Randy said...

Scary stuff. They want Shariah law here in the US. Unbelievable.

Z, I am setting up a links page on my site and would like to add yours if that is OK. A reciprocal would be wonderful.

Leticia said...

The first video about that little girl being raped and screaming all night and no one, not even her parents did ANYTHING to save makes so sick and completely outraged!! I would have risked death, and probably would have received it, but I would have stabbed that sick S.O.B. from touching my daughter, regardless of who he was.

This religion is disgusting and sick on all sides. And hearing that a 9-year-old is of marriageable age is sick, sick, sick! I truly HATE pedophiles they should all burn in hell.

Z, I am sorry but that really got to me.

I can't feel sorry for the mother on the second video she was fully aware that the kids were going to a mosque, what did she expect? It's their church! Of course, there was going to be worship going on.

It is very disheartening that prayer and Christianity is illegal in schools, but not Islam.

Z said...

Leticia said "It is very disheartening that prayer and Christianity is illegal in schools, but not Islam."

Voila. Who can't see this? Our Ducky. (thanks, Leticia, well said)

Catherine, IMAGINE if a public school did this with Christianity? I mean, it would be a carnage toward Christianity! As it is? ...silence. It's ISLAM, after all.

Ducky, if you would only realize that this isn't the only instance of this....
Stop with the "tempest in a teapots"..that's what got us into this mess in the first place. You think it's a 'tempest..' that the ACLU's not all OVER this, considering what they'd have done had teachers pushed Christianity on their kids!? You're being naive, Ducky.........

Hi, Randy, my comment seems to have finally stuck at your site...thanks.
I do link if something REALLY hits me, and I'm glad this hit you but it's really Brooke's (Check her blog out, you'll like it!) and I don't do reciprocal blog posts but I sure appreciate the compliment. Your blog looks terrific and I'm sure something will hit me that prompts me to highlight it like I did Brooke's...it's got to REALLY hit me because most of my commenters comment at the other blogs, too, so they don't need me repeating the good info from other blogs here. UNLESS IT REALLY HITS ME and I feel that many more people need to see it and I hope there's some new blogger who sees it who might not have visited Brooke's blog and sees it here. I hope I didn't make that more complicated than I made it sound! :-)

Anonymous said...

I'm not surprised, I'm angry. As I've said before, If one follows and believes in Islam, there is no moderation.

People can choose to believe the propaganda of these Imams, followers, and the political left, or they can believe the evidence which belies their public statements.

I wonder how long our society will tolerate this insidious intervention into our American foundation. What will it take to open our eyes to the reality of this threat to our country?

Every parent of a school aged child, should know the curriculum, and be wary of the nice sounding words like tolerance and diversity,
and look a little further into what's really happening in their children's schools.

They can question their children, as to what is being taught them. They can question the teachers as to what, specifically, their children are being taught. And they can raise hell.

There is no longer the luxury of depending on a continuity between school and home.

Our public schools have become separate from parental considerations, and depend on a trust of parents that their children are in responsible hands which respect parental authority.

Too many schools are administered by people who have the same elitist attitude as our political leaders, and that is, that they know best and we are mere fools who are expected to pay for, and obey, our intellectual "betters".

To do nothing, is to condone whatever their children are exposed to. Parents must be informed, and take action, make their presence felt, or the day will come when it will be too late, if it hasn't already.

Ducky, you can keep your head in the sand if you want. As with most things, it's obvious if something doesn't affect you personally, you don't care.

However, I caution you, this threat we face, will affect you along with the rest of us, it's just a matter of time.

Pris

beamish said...

Well, Ducky's own hierarchicalized faith in inanimate object worship informs him that it's okay for his priest to touch his hoo-hoo. Rattle off a few candlelit iterations of prayers to the Mary statue and he's good until the next confessional glory hole encounter with his "Father."

There isn't much difference between Shia Islam and Catholicism, except for the Shia insistence that their inanimate object is holier.

beamish said...

Until we get Catholicism to abandon its sacrament of pedophilia (or at least drop it's laughably absurd pretentions to Christianity), we'll never effectively tackle this.

WomanHonorThyself said...

its getting sicker by the minute Z! Blessed weekend my friend!!:)

Brooke said...

Thank you for linking, Z. After the pedophilia video at my site, I was too beyond words to make a decent dissertation of this video.

Islam advanced in women's rights?!? The claim is so ridiculous that to try to argue it makes my head oscillate. Even a cursory look at Sharia law proves otherwise.

Brooke said...

Leave it to the misogynist Ducky to make excuses for this religion of unequal rights and rape.

Ducky's here said...

Brooke, regarding the tape. I bet someone that if I put up these questions, they'd get censored.

Regarding the tape:

1. Why was the tape of an incident that occurred nearly five months ago just released ? Hint: Think lower Manhattan

2. Has anyone at z's site researched the group that produced the tape?

3. Why does the tape mention a man who was on the board for just a few weeks and left over 25 years ago as a founder? Isn't that misleading? Hint: Yes

4. Who funded the tape. it cost at least few grand and uses a professional voice actor (I think I even know who). Why isn't that revealed?

5. Should the group behind the tape reveal that they actively opposed the center and filed several law suits against everyone from the board to the Boston Redevelopment Authority and lost every one?

Anonymous said...

It's hard to know the depths of depravity to which those wedded to the "religion of peace" are capable of going to achieve their ends of enslaving the planet to their "prophet". The first video actually shows that Khomieni did just that by "wedding" a five year old girl for the night. I think the actual "prophet", Mohammed, "married" Ayisha when she was a ll of six years and supposedly waied until she was nine to consummate the "marriage".

Next we'll be hearing of Glenn Beck of being the target of a "fatwa" for exposing the depravity of the Saudis and their "Islam" ... Wahabbism. Sounds like a religion only the warped mentality of the perverted could prostrate themselves for. Yes, I know the "vicar of virtue" the representative of the "Society of Jesus" ... a Jesuit priest could or would enjoy.

And trust Ducky that if there is a pimple on the ass of a fly, he'll sniff it out.

Waylon

Ducky's here said...

Any answers to the questions, Waylon?

Anonymous said...

Ducky, didn't you pose the questions and answer them, too?

Waylon

Joe said...

As usual, Ducky seems incapable of understanding the point. It makes no difference who made the tape or how it was funded or whether it was voiced over by a professional, it STILL represents the exclusion of women and the prosylitizing of children who were supposed to be on an archetechtural field trip.

The school knew what it was doing, did it deliberately and did not expect that anyone would object.

Fooled them.

The Muslims were just being Muslims: dishonest, liars who promote a religion of non-peace.

FrogBurger said...

Any answers to the questions, Waylon

How about answers to my question about France and discrimination first?

Ducky's here said...

No Joe, it makes a lot of difference. This happened several months ago and there was no reaction in Wellesley. It wasn't a matter of concern.

Then we get the New york center concern and low and behold, we have a right wing organization publishing the tape (still no parental complaints mind you).

So we take a rather minor indiscretion (yes, engaging in the prayer should have been pre-cleared) but, as you can see, the kids' heads didn't explode and they weren't kidnapped by white slavers or anything. What you don't seem to understand is that much of the population doesn't have your xenophobia.

So who doesn't get it? The tape was produced by C.A.M.E.R.A. and the David Project, both extremist organizations which have unsuccessfully tried to stop the Roxbury center for years and lost. They have not been open and seem to take their video technique from the Andrew Breitbart school. Now here in the home city of Errol Morris and Fred Wiseman, that kind of cheap technique won't do.

Now just who was dishonest?

beamish said...

Now just who was dishonest?

That would be the faggot trying to dismiss on-tape witness testimony about a pedophile imam because it wasn't produced by Michael Moore.

Er, you Ducky.

FrogBurger said...

Now just who was dishonest?

That would be the little Kwaky who can't asnwer my questions on a regular basis.

Do you feel proud of yourself for being such a tool?

Craig and Heather said...

Engaging school children in unauthorized religious activity is inexcusable.

Rape of children which is sheltered under the guise of "practice of religion" is revolting and heartbreaking.

Ducky,

I already shot you an e-mail concerning your questions, but I will add here that I know there are people in your life whom you care for very much. If one of them married a practicing Muslim who decided it was his religious duty to hand over her 5 year old baby for some old pervert to violate, I'm thinking you would probably be a bit less generous toward Islam as a non-offensive religion.

Does that mean you would have to suspect all Muslims of being pedophiles? No.

But I expect it would change your opinion about the potential for harm to be done by those who take seriously their obligation to honor certain Islamic teachings.

Heather

Ducky's here said...

Heather, let's take it one at a time. These are two separate issues.

1. The field trip. There was a slight indiscretion, yes it was a violation of the parents rights to have the kids engage in the prayer.

Now, please note: This occurred several months ago and there were NO PARENTAL COMPLAINTS. Still aren't any even after the tape was made.

This is ginned up by a bunch of extremists and the motive is obvious.

2. The other tape is a separate matter. Two Saudis relating a story an Iranian. I really don't know what to make of it.

However, if you think that is practiced by American Muslims , or Muslims in general, no. Also you will find this is a cultural issue rather than strictly Muslim, just like female circumcision which is practiced in Africa by all religions including Jews.

If you want to hate, you'll hate and if you want to name a religion that isn't going to give you an excuse to hate if you twist it tight enough, well maybe Buddhism.

Anonymous said...

"Now, please note: This occurred several months ago and there were NO PARENTAL COMPLAINTS."

Ducky, so, are we supposed to regard that as acceptable?

That, Ducky, is the problem. These are children. They're being indoctrinated to accept Islam without objection according to you.

Sometimes I think no one gives a damn about our children. I find this appalling and disgusting.

I'll say it again, our children are the most at risk group in America! Does anybody care?

Pris

Z said...

Ducky, did you not listen to the video OR read any of the information I provided?

you say "This happened several months ago and there was no reaction in Wellesley. It wasn't a matter of concern."

Who gives a damn, frankly, what Wellesley parents think now? Or ever? it's WRONG, what happened, whether they like it or not..
Heather's comment exactly captures the real problems (thanks, Heather)

So WHAT if it's brought out now becuase of the NYC mosque? it's about damned TIME it came out...man.

Ducky's here said...

Pris, the issue here is that you think contact with Muslims is like contact with a smallpox carrier.

Did something terrible happen, no.

----------

z, he cares what Wellesley parents think? Why, do you override their judgment?

So YOU make the determination? YOU decide what is right or wrong for their children? You just let slip badly.

Z said...

Are you kidding? They're American children who've been taken by a public school teacher to a MOSQUE to pray to Allah.
This is the difference; Conservatives care about children getting indoctrinated.
If their parents don't, that's their business..but they're American children and this STANK.

Not to mention the sheer and utter hypocrisy of the ACLU, which would be screaming from the rafters if this had happened at a church or synagogue.

Major said...

I think you all know in your hearts and minds what we're involved in.

A cultural, all out war against these primitive, 7th century barbarians from the 3rd world Middle East. The chants, the unpronounceable, always Arabic names...this Imam and this "scholar". This "holy day" and that holy day. Their customs, their traditions, their "culture", their abominable "traditions".

Why I ask are we so fearful and reluctant to proclaim just what our Traditions and acceptable cultures are?

Certainly...most of us accept without question while we may find ourselves in their shit hole countries...that we must adhere to their "customs" and "religious preferences that are completely intolerant of different views...yet we accept these criminals in our midsts?

Why must we bend over for a hostile, aggressive political ideology that has no fear of announcing their hate, distrust, animosity, and their announced desire to be dominate in our country?

Are we...just completely stupid? Has PC totally wiped out our desire to be free? Especially from a fascist, murderous, barbaric ideology?

You know...sometimes I think I'd rather have Hitler than a scummy POS Muslim. At least I'd know that that I can destroy him as a bona fide aggressor / enemy...rather than some scumbag jihadist animal that proclaims himself to be..."holy".

There will be a day of reckoning folks...sooner than later.

Me....I hope sooner. And you....all you compliant peaceful dweebs...well...you can sit it out by yourselves. I know who the enemy is.

Furthermore...You need people like me...on that wall. Ducky...and his ilk....will have to adapt to the slavery and persecution that awaits them.

Major

Z said...

Major, you're right...it would be easier were it Hitler because at least we knew where the armies WERE. This enemy is everywhere and nowhere....and we can't fight it because, God forbid, we might kill one innocent and then we're the ones considered scum, never mind that their GOAL is COLLATERAL DAMAGE.

By the way, everyone:

Tonight, we learn that letters of apology went out to the Wellesley parents and that the children did visit a Synagogue...and I think I heard a church, too (i'm not sure)...BUT THEY DID NOT PARTICIPATE. Only at the mosque were they told ALLAH IS THE ONE TRUE GOD and only at the mosque were they told to participate

Anonymous said...

off topic, but....don't forget to wish the constitution a happy birthday today.

tio

Z said...

You're right, tio..a lot of bloggers covered that today.
Happy Birthday, Constitution.

Z said...

actually, with what Obama's doing, we can say HAPPY BIRTHDAY and KISS IT GOODBYE at the same darned time :-(

Craig and Heather said...

Heather's comment exactly captures the real problems (thanks, Heather)

Hi Z :)

Ducky:
let's take it one at a time. These are two separate issues.

Ok.

1. The field trip.

Yes. And I did acknowledge via e-mail that I have no problem with looking into the motives of those who have forwarded the video. Considering the fact that Muslim motives are being questioned, that seems like a proper thing to do.

Beyond that, I do have to ask whether deliberate proselytizing of these children was a goal of their hosts. If it was, then even if the makers of the video have wrong motives of their own, honest consideration of the available evidence is necessary.

2. The other tape is a separate matter.

Yes again. And unfortunately, both clips find commonality in the religion of Islam.

Why? (I ask that about everything, btw)

However, if you think that is practiced by American Muslims ...

We can hope it isn't practiced here. Currently, sexual assault of a minor is against the law--and it should be. It hasn't deterred some fundamentalist Mormons, though. And there are plenty of non-religious pedophiles that probably wouldn't mind "converting" in order to be able to claim their religion allows for their behavior.

If you want to hate, you'll hate and if you want to name a religion that isn't going to give you an excuse to hate if you twist it tight enough

Of course.
But that takes the discussion into the realm of human nature. We'd have to continue off site and I'm happy to accommodate if you're interested.

That said, some belief structures don't have to be twisted all that hard to accommodate hateful (or perverted) behavior.

And, it isn't hateful to be concerned for the well-being of those who are within a religious system that(even if only in SOME instances) encourages evil behavior.

H

Craig and Heather said...

Heather's comment exactly captures the real problems (thanks, Heather)

Hi Z :)

Ducky:
let's take it one at a time. These are two separate issues.

Ok.

1. The field trip.

Yes. And I did acknowledge via e-mail that I have no problem with looking into the motives of those who have forwarded the video. Considering the fact that Muslim motives are being questioned, that seems like a proper thing to do.

Beyond that, I do have to ask whether deliberate proselytizing of these children was a goal of their hosts. If it was, then even if the makers of the video have wrong motives of their own, honest consideration of the available evidence is necessary.

Craig and Heather said...

2. The other tape is a separate matter.

Yes again. And unfortunately, both clips find commonality in the religion of Islam.

Why? (I ask that about everything, btw)

However, if you think that is practiced by American Muslims ...

We can hope it isn't practiced here. Currently, sexual assault of a minor is against the law--and it should be. It hasn't deterred some fundamentalist Mormons, though. And there are plenty of non-religious pedophiles that probably wouldn't mind "converting" in order to be able to claim their religion allows for their behavior.

If you want to hate, you'll hate and if you want to name a religion that isn't going to give you an excuse to hate if you twist it tight enough

Of course.
But that takes the discussion into the realm of human nature. We'd have to continue off site and I'm happy to accommodate if you're interested.

That said, some belief structures don't have to be twisted all that hard to accommodate hateful (or perverted) behavior.

And, it isn't hateful to be concerned for the well-being of those who are within a religious system that(even if only in SOME instances) encourages evil behavior.

H

beamish said...
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beamish said...

If you want to hate, you'll hate and if you want to name a religion that isn't going to give you an excuse to hate if you twist it tight enough, well maybe Buddhism.

Would that be the Buddhism that regularly bombs Christian churches in Sri Lanka or the Buddhism that blissfully butchers each other in the Zen paradise of Thailand? The tradition of warrior monks is just a metaphor?

Seriously Ducky, if you're tired of being shown just how ill-equipped you are to participate in frank discussions of reality, how about shutting the hell up? Does not your asinine levels of stupidity ever embarrass you?

Ducky's here said...

Well, the story is being run in the Globe today and the parents are pretty upset --- at the producers of the tape.

This really backfired on the David Project as parents were unanimous in supporting the trip and those who had children join the prayer said they felt it was a positive experience.

You can read all about it at Boston.com

Z said...

Ducky, we GET IT. We DON'T GIVE A DARN WHAT THE PARENTS THINK OR SAY....why can't YOU GET THAT?

That mother videoing was APPALLED!! Listen to her. Do you think she's changed her tune, and WHY? Threats? very possibly.

Sure your state is full of parents who think it's great to tell their small impressionable kids ALLAH IS THE ONLY GOD, GREAT to have little Jewish boys bow in Islamic prayer (You'd think the muslims would be ashamed of themselves, but...noooo)....congratulations, Mass., what BIG bleeding hearts you have, you must be so proud of yourselves! :-)!!
Geez, keep commenting, you're digging yourself into an even deeper hole. You read my comments and then say this AGAIN? geez

Joe said...

Ducky: What the video shows either happened or it did not. If it did, shame on the school for allowing it, shame on the parents for condoning it and shame on you for not understanding the issue.

If it did not, how did anybody edit the video to show what didn't happen?

I maintain that if religious indoctrination is proper for Islam, it is equally proper for Christianity, and they should take the kids to a Baptist church, have them pray and sing and listen to the sermon as a part of the school's curriculum.

Is that OK with you?

I'll bet I know the answer to that question...but I'll let you explain your position as only you can.

If you are able, that is.

Anonymous said...

"This really backfired on the David Project as parents were unanimous in supporting the trip and those who had children join the prayer said they felt it was a positive experience."

This is so typical it hurts me to the quick. These parents can't see what's before their eyes. They allowed their children to be used and don't even realize it. It's political correctness at it's worst.

Don't rock the boat, and hope for the best. After all it's just their children. Good luck with that. Fools all.

Pris

Major said...

I'll repeat at the risk of being...redundant:

"I think you all know in your hearts and minds what we're involved in."

Let me start with this...ask your parents or grandparents who lived through WW2 felt about using any means necessary to combat evil.

Ask them if they felt that the killing, the chaos, the mayhem, the destruction, the civilians killed, the bombings, the fire bombings, the assaults, the landings in France, the use of the Atomic weapons to annihilate and destroy the enemies of civilization...were acceptable and justified.

Ask them if they felt any remorse or guilt for the actions that were undertaken by the US to preserve and defend our way of life...and this Republic from fascists, communists and our many enemies.

My opinion would be...NO...they did not feel that any actions that they took to kill our enemies weren't justified.( I asked my Marine Father...who served in the Pacific.)

Not if you look at the many D-Day pictures from Life magazine after the surrender and complete, overwhelming destruction of our ENEMIES.

So today...we have fanatical, fascist, maniacal, murderous idiotic thugs....3rd world scum ( exactly the same as our former enemies ) vs the Germans and Japanese and Italians...who were at the very least...sophisticated, educated and had a civil, modern society. It was a difference of "opinions" and ideology.

Now...we have an enemy whom we're afraid to confront...to smash...to grind into the dustbin of history.....because they claim they're...a "religion"?

Excuse my Marine driven French...but how utterly fucking stupid are we? The goals of islam are the same as fascism...the goals and dictates of islime are quite, the same as ( so long as history always repeats itself ) Hitlers.

I'm totally astounded that anyone would give these bastards the benefit of the doubt.

Here....listen up....Imagine if you will...a Nazi was caught planting a bomb in Times Square. Imagine if you will a soldier murdering ( an officer at that ) killing 13 other soldiers during WW2. Imagine a Nazi bundt in America...shouting "Death to America".

I'm sick of this PC shit. I know what we need to do...and it ain't looking for "moderate nazi, muslims" to prevent us from the enevitable showdown. It's only the future of an America free..FREE...from the fascist muslim scum that have infested our body politic.

Mustang...are you ready to fight and protect , defend these dopes? Before the next Koran is distributed as their Mein Kamph?

Major

Major said...

I'll repeat at the risk of being...redundant:

"I think you all know in your hearts and minds what we're involved in."

Let me start with this...ask your parents or grandparents who lived through WW2 felt about using any means necessary to combat evil.

Ask them if they felt that the killing, the chaos, the mayhem, the destruction, the civilians killed, the bombings, the fire bombings, the assaults, the landings in France, the use of the Atomic weapons to annihilate and destroy the enemies of civilization...were acceptable and justified.

Ask them if they felt any remorse or guilt for the actions that were undertaken by the US to preserve and defend our way of life...and this Republic from fascists, communists and our many enemies.

My opinion would be...NO...they did not feel that any actions that they took to kill our enemies weren't justified.( I asked my Marine Father...who served in the Pacific.)

Not if you look at the many D-Day pictures from Life magazine after the surrender and complete, overwhelming destruction of our ENEMIES.

So today...we have fanatical, fascist, maniacal, murderous idiotic thugs....3rd world scum ( exactly the same as our former enemies ) vs the Germans and Japanese and Italians...who were at the very least...sophisticated, educated and had a civil, modern society. It was a difference of "opinions" and ideology.

Now...we have an enemy whom we're afraid to confront...to smash...to grind into the dustbin of history.....because they claim they're...a "religion"?

Excuse my Marine driven French...but how utterly fucking stupid are we? The goals of islam are the same as fascism...the goals and dictates of islime are quite, the same as ( so long as history always repeats itself ) Hitlers.

I'm totally astounded that anyone would give these bastards the benefit of the doubt.

Here....listen up....Imagine if you will...a Nazi was caught planting a bomb in Times Square. Imagine if you will a soldier murdering ( an officer at that ) killing 13 other soldiers during WW2. Imagine a Nazi bundt in America...shouting "Death to America".

I'm sick of this PC shit. I know what we need to do...and it ain't looking for "moderate nazi, muslims" to prevent us from the enevitable showdown. It's only the future of an America free..FREE...from the fascist muslim scum that have infested our body politic.

Mustang...are you ready to fight and protect , defend these dopes? Before the next Koran is distributed as their Mein Kamph?

Major

Major said...

"We are..AT War...we are at WAR"


"It is precisely because radicalism is so pervasive and powerful within the Muslim world that it is so vital to cultivate people like Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf. Cultivating dissidents within Islam against murderous sectarianism is a primary task in our fight against al-Qaeda. …
It is madness.

We should lower our standards in order to see what happens if we accept those who don’t actively participate in violent activities, but condone terrorism in the name of Islam (Rauf refuses to condemn Hamas).
By doing this, Chait and others are putting universal values in harm’s way, in the name of pragmatic considerations — which are based on an idealistic notion of the future.

Why should American society be a laboratory for untested ideas?

The pundits who cry bigotry at every instance are doing no favors to those Muslims who have embraced American-style liberalism. Their hypersensitive reactions to those who oppose the Cordoba Initiative have led to a new and dangerous shift in paradigm — Muslims are by and large being exempted from responsibility or any need for self-evaluation.

Has the notion of what is good and desirable become so diluted amongst the mainstream progressives that it has become impossible to distinguish between those worthy of defending in the name of liberty and those who are self-proclaimed enemies of American-style liberty?

Multicultural society differs from the traditional notion of liberal democracy. Multicultural society does not have a moral compass which can provide it with wisdom at a time of great confusion. It cannot pass a value judgment on others, as it perceives its own history as barbaric. A segment of society which sees its founding fathers as slave-owners and its value system as rooted in chauvinistic and misogynist tradition cannot find wisdom in its midst.

In the words of Thomas Sowell: “What multiculturalism boils down to is that you can praise any culture in the world except Western culture — and you cannot blame any culture in the world except Western culture.”

The counterweight to multiculturalism is a liberal democracy, which is a society of pluralism where the laws of the land are clearly defined and where these laws enjoy the respect of all naturalized citizens. In such a society the concepts of law and morality live a harmonious coexistence.

The multicultural code, which has become the guiding principle of the left, is blind to the crimes of the other and intensely critical of the self. In its attempt to purify the American soul of any perceived prejudice and bigotry, the followers of this code have become the uncritical voice in support of illiberalism in the name of liberalism. This development has led to indiscriminate toleration.

What makes this code particularly bizarre is its toleration of Islamic radicalism.

One should bear in mind that liberalism in the defense of Islamic extremism is a vice.

The left’s contempt for the majority of Americans is an indication of its soul. The left has abandoned the principles of universal values at the expense of defending and tolerating the indefensible and the intolerable. It is now an insular mass movement which has become largely blind to its own failures.

Imam Rauf is not a liberal, but a dark influence on the most pluralistic entity on earth.

Dennis Prager has noted that being on the left means never having to say you’re sorry. If Prager’s observation is of any indication, the left will not re-evaluate its core principles and will continue to champion Rauf’s Cordoba Initiative.

Eric Hoffer once observed that “a dissenting minority feels free only when it can impose its will on the majority: what it abominates most is the dissent of the majority.” As with many incisive observations, they seem to become more applicable as time passes. Opposing the majority opinion has become the main function of the left, and it will not rest until the majority becomes the minority.

Gramma 2 Many said...

Saw this on Face Book, could not believe it!!
Wondering if these kids would enjoy coming to my church and take part in an Awana evening. School sanctioned of course. While they are there, I will be very happy to share the Gospel with them also.
If I were one of the parents, I would have my children removed immediately.
I am wondering also just what do the parents who had to sign a consent form for their children to attend this field trip use for brains.