Friday, February 17, 2012

"We must take FOX News discredit.....making it illegitimate in the eyes of the news consumers.."

See my title?  How long have I been saying here at geeeZ that this is the left's goal?   Here's the actual full quote "We must take Fox News head-on in a well funded, presidential-style campaign to discredit and embarrass the network, making it illegitimate in the eyes of news consumers.”     As if this is news to conservative bloggers? We're being joined by thinking liberals........check this out:

Liberal Alan Dershowitz gets it right HERE (and American Thinker always gets it right...amazingly good information).   Here's the piece by their James Lewis:

Does the left seem totalitarian to you? Does the vile scapegoating of every single GOP candidate but Romney (and his turn is coming) look like the rise of a one-party state? Who does Obama really remind you of? 
Well, Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz has finally said the magic word, specifically about Media Matters and the survival of Israel, but really about the core militant left today.  Including its favorite billionaires. (Z: let me just interject, the 'magic word' link is to Breitbart TV.  Now, for you liberals who despise Breitbart, you might want to write it off because he published it...but, really? (It's a video, let's see you disprove Dershowitz's words, okay?).  It's the truth (again) and your liberal media should be utterly ashamed they HAVE NOT MENTIONED THIS SCANDAL yet):
Said Dershowitz, 
"First of all, [Media Matters] are not liberals. They are radical Stalinists, for the most part. ... They're radical extremists....And any association with the Obama administration is going to hurt the Obama administration. There's not enough room under a big tent for both me, and people who are like me-support Israel, I'm a centrist in support of Israel, I'm in favor of the two-state solution-there's not enough room for me and the bigots of Media Matters. The Obama administration is going to have to choose....I could not vote for any candidate who had anything to do with Media Matters. That's clear. That's as clear as can be. I will not-I will take an oath here that I will not vote for a candidate who has any direct association with Media Matters."
Maybe conservatives who keep seeing totalitarians on the left aren't crazy after all. 
The power of leftist totalitarians is a huge problem for American safety and liberty. But letting them thrive and grow in secret is the worst part of the problem. William Buckley kicked totalitarian ideologues out of the conservative movement decades ago. 
The Democratic Party just imported them under politically correct labels. 
When big media voices tell us that the US Constitution is outdated, that democracy can't work, that socialist Europe represents the future, that America is evil, while the US President bows down to the King of Saudi Arabia and the President of China ... there's a message. When the President invades Libya without even notifying Congress, as required by law and the US Constitution, there's a message. When the US Attorney General violates the laws passed by Congress, not just once but repeatedly, and laughs at Congressional oversight, there's a message. 
Alan Dershowitz just gave a name to that message.  *end of article

A little after 1 p.m. on Sept. 29, 2009, Karl Frisch emailed a memo to his bosses, Media Matters for America founder David Brock and president Eric Burns. In the first few lines, Frisch explained why Media Matters should launch a “Fox Fund” whose mission would be to attack the Fox News Channel.
“Simply put,” Frisch wrote, “the progressive movement is in need of an enemy. George W. Bush is gone. We really don’t have John McCain to kick around any more. Filling the lack of leadership on the right, Fox News has emerged as the central enemy and antagonist of the Obama administration, our Congressional majorities and the progressive movement as a whole.”
“We must take Fox News head-on in a well funded, presidential-style campaign to discredit and embarrass the network, making it illegitimate in the eyes of news consumers.”
What Frisch proceeded to suggest, however, went well beyond what legitimate presidential campaigns attempt. “We should hire private investigators to look into the personal lives of Fox News anchors, hosts, reporters, prominent contributors, senior network and corporate staff,” he wrote.
After that, Frisch argued, should come the legal assault: “We should look into contracting with a major law firm to study any available legal actions that can be taken against Fox News, from a class action law suit to defamation claims for those wronged by the network. I imagine this would be difficult but the right law firm is bound to find some legal ground for us to take action against the network.”
Frisch went on to call for “an elaborate shareholder campaign” against News Corporation, the parent company of Fox News: “This can take many forms, from a front group of shareholders, to passing resolutions at shareholder meetings or massive demonstrations are [sic] shareholder meetings.”
Given the leaky nature of electronic communications, it’s unusual to see the term “front group” used approvingly in office email. Yet Frisch continued: “We should also hire a team of trackers to stake out private and public events with Fox News anchors, hosts, reporters, prominent contributors and senior network/corporate staff.”
Preparing his bosses for the potential cost, he added that, “If we need to buy tickets for events that these people will be speaking at, so be it.”
The memo goes on to suggest new and unusual ways to harass Fox News: “detailed opposition research” on the network’s staff and executives, attacks against Fox News employees on Facebook and other social media, mailing anti-Fox News literature to their homes and placing “yard signs and outdoor advertising in their neighborhoods.”
At one point, Frisch suggests putting “a mole inside of” the network.
The cloak-and-dagger tactics seemed to make Frisch jumpy. “Fox is likely to retaliate,” he wrote. Media Matters should find “ways to protect the privacy of our employees and the security of our office.”
David Brock apparently took this warning seriously. By the next year, Media Matters had two security guards in the office, and Brock’s personal assistant was carrying a holstered Glock to protect him.

Z: That's from THE DAILY CALLER.  (Liberals, calm down....your CNN and networks aren't covering this true story yet and probably never will, so most Americans will never know what horror your side is up to in blocking information from the public.   THIS is the new America your ***** leftwing journalists are promoting.  WOULD that more of you would feel the shame Dershowitz feels and actually want to do something to pull our media back into honest journalism..............see, it's not about the information FOX gives, this is about killing the messengers of anything the Left doesn't like.    WHY are you afraid of a THINKING PUBLIC?

Did Media Matters already push FOX to the left (because  of and through the work of George Soros)?  Check THIS OUT.    They got rid of Beck and good conservatives who want ALL sides of every topic are enraged.  

Is there a way to get the left honest in their reporting and stopping this onslaught they've had against FOX since before it even opened?  WHy are they so afraid of people getting all sides and thinking for themselves? (that's a rhetorical question, trust me...we all know why)



Silverfiddle said...

Dershowitz nailed it. They are Stalinist.

I hope those who are excoriating fox because their conservatism is not spicy enough can read this and see the bigger picture.

beamish said...

I'm no defender of Media Matters, but I'm failing to see how excluding Glenn Beck from ANYTHING would not make that anything both more right-wing / conservative and exponentially more intellectual. Let's not cheapen the term "conservative" by incorrectly applying it to Glenn Beck, especially when "scumbag plagiarist con artist" is so much more accurate, and to the point. Ask your pal Breitbart for details on Glenn Beck, or check out this

While we're on the topic of Media Matters' typical left-wing anti-Semitism, we shouldn't pollute the discussion with Glenn Beck, who is all too ready to smear conservatives and go far-leftwards towards endorsing Israel-hater Ron Paul if conservatives don't kowtow to his absurdity that Newt Gingrich (and by extension, Ronald Reagan) is a "Progressive leftist" for expressing admiration for the history and life of Teddy Roosevelt. Fox News is nothing but improved without Glenn Beck, and I'm willing to cut critics of Fox News some slack because of Fox's past association with that sh!tbag.

Ducky's here said...

Survival of Israel? Israel seems to be building illegal settlements and epnding just fine.Strictly a frnge right dog whistle.

Ducky's here said...

Dershowitz nailed it. They are Stalinist.

It always reminds me of the scene in Godard's "Masculin Feminin" (the sexes aren't the only groups that can't talk to each other) where Jean Pierre Leaud jumps up in a crowded theater and shouts at some folks in the read, "Shut up, you Trotskyite".

Stalinists ... absolutely insane.

Bunkerville said...

They are going after Murdoch in Great Britain big time. Soon, Holder will start on him here under an American Law I read.

Pris said...

"“Fox is likely to retaliate,” he wrote. Media Matters should find “ways to protect the privacy of our employees and the security of our office.”"

One can only hope. It's long past time, that we should fight back, rather than cow down. There's an old saying which goes, "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander".

So, if Media Matters wants a news war, let's give 'em what for. I'm all for it.

I respect Professor Dershowitz for standing up for what's right, and there is a difference between liberals and the far left tyrants.

I know too many Democrats who know they've lost their party, and want it back. They will not be voting for Obama. Not this time.

Pris said...

Beamish, Glenn Beck spent months connecting the dots as to the radicals and Marxists in the Obama world. Say what you will, no one else had the guts to do what he did, and does, and he wasn't refuted on the facts he presented.

Furthermore, you beamish, brought me to wonder if you leaned to the left, because you persisted in demeaning mainstram conservatives in the tea party.

We don't need you to pronounce a rational, American movement like the tea party as leftwing, when any rational thinker knows that is untrue!

There are Libertarians who are anarchist leaning themselves.

Your blasting of the tea party, was irrational and anti-conservative. And why? Because you became obsessed with Ron Paul and his flaky foreign policy positions. That does not make the entire tea party movement, a Ron Paul movement.

It makes the Libertarian movement a Ron Paul movement, and you don't like that. Well, neither do I.

Beck, this morning, is heralding Santorum's knock down of Charlie Rose, who was trying to play "gotcha" with Santorum, but he wouldn't fall for it. Santorum hit back and did so successfully and that's what we need.

There is no one I agree with on everything, and it's safe to say, everyone could say the same thing, but I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, because of it.

Basically, I think you enjoy playing Devil's advocate, and that's your game, but while doing it, you demonize people who don't deserve it, and Glenn Beck is one of them.

Pris said...

"Stalinists ... absolutely insane".

Really Ducky? I suggest you read David Horowitz's book, Radical Son, then tell me the far left are not Stalinist oriented.

Horowitz was raised in a Stalinist communist believing family, and when he was a young man he knew the players like Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, and the Chicago Seven, etc.

He was part of it, until he experienced a revelation in his thinking and his belief system. So much so he rejected all he was raised to believe.

Of course Ducky, I know this wasn't made into a movie, so you're probably not aware that Stalinist communism, was popular in those days with the left. I think the radicals in this administration are still enamored with it. Not to mention "Che", and "Mao Tse Tung".

So can it Ducky, your ignorance is showing.

Ducky's here said...

Pris, trust me, I know a little more of the history of the left in America than you.

The idea that Glenn "Psycho" Beck was pushed out of Fox for any other reason than his audience dwindling to the few weary droolers who think The Black Messiah is a Stalinist is interesting but I don't you can give any concrete evidence.

Meanwhile enjoy another four years and remember through the whole torture that it was the Tea Party extremists who turned the Republicans into a dysfunctional parade of losers.

Quick look, a devout Muslim Stalinist in the White House. Really, I don't see how dialogue is possible.

Lisa said...
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Lisa said...

Pris you always nail it. Breibart too had an awakening when the left attacked Clearance Thomas, the Black Oreo.
The left in this country has gone militant. I know a few people who voted for Obama and will not be,the ones who pay attention anyway.
Our local Tea Party Group is headed by someone who's mother was a member of the Weather Underground and was dragged to protests as a young girl and was turned off to their lack of reasoning. She said that group was like they were brainwashed and no matter who you spoke to they all sounded like you were talking to the same person. She said she couldn't even have a conversation with her mother . When she asked her questions about the group she went off into some loony type of blabber.
This woman s now the head of a sales team at a large firm and is very specific about everything. It is very well organized unlike the left likes to portray the Tea Party.

beamish said...

Beamish, Glenn Beck spent months connecting the dots as to the radicals and Marxists in the Obama world. Say what you will, no one else had the guts to do what he did, and does, and he wasn't refuted on the facts he presented.


Glenn Beck's been busted plagiarizing other people's "dot-connecting," without attribution, and not really being versed in what he's talking about, falls short under scrutiny time and again.

Furthermore, you beamish, brought me to wonder if you leaned to the left, because you persisted in demeaning mainstram conservatives in the tea party.

I suppose we disagree on what "mainstream conservatism" is.

Ron Paul? Donald Trump? Michelle Bachmann? Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Stop me when I name a "conservative," mainstream or otherwise.

beamish said...

Pssst. Glenn Beck is putting on an act. He's a shock jock. A morning DJ repackaged as a "conservative thinker" for people unfamiliar with what "conservative thinking" actually is.

Anonymous said...

It's already started:

Pris said...

"Pris, trust me, I know a little more of the history of the left in America than you."

Ducky, I'm sure you do. But, do you know more about the left, than Horowitz? I think not. Nice try!

Bob said...

Is seem like everybody is going ballistic over Glen Beck. Beck has always seemed to me to be a brick shy of a full load. His shows were always entertaining, and even provacative. I don't believe all he said was accurate, though.

I still give Beck a little more credit than Beamish does.

The essence of Z's article is that there is yet another concerted left-wing effort to silence critics of our idiot in chief. The threat is serious.

Blogs like Geeez and others represented here are the best hope of the American people. Millions of citizens read blogs like these, and I don't think we can get choosey about which ones are conservative enough, or who spouts the "correct" dogma.

It's all hands to the keyboard, folks. So, quit your bitching and personality analyses and do your thing. The time is, now.

Z said...

Um, Ducky? what you pick to slam is the israel point, really?
That's hilarious!
just completely ignore the stuff you don't want to address, blame the Republicans for everything, and go off your snotty elitist way? :-)

Pris is right, Beck did connect dots, but AMerica's not ready to hear it and the media won't run with the information, SOros is too it died.

Bunker: the whole Murdoch thing in England's a game to get FOX here, that was clear from the start. Britain's known for this type of "journalism" it was nothing new. Did you see how PIers Morgen is implicated? he'll escape totally clean, wait for it.

Bob...thanks. that's my point, of course. Wait till you see the post above this I'm going to publish now...(but our media's not liberal :-)

Z said...

Ducky, by the way, this country is in the SEWER and it's because of the liberal CRAP of not honoring our background, for celebrating illegals and giving euphemistic titles to those who want anything but to fit in, paying illegals who come to suck off of our teet, creating CRAP TV and films which celebrate leftwing debauchery, a lying journalist group now that isn't even interested in objectivity, Alinksy rules which are finally becoming obvious in nearly everything the Obama thugs are doing, taking GOD out, or attempting to, of everything good in America and watching our demise that's so obvious you'd have to be stupid AND blind not to see it, ...I, and every other good conservative here, could carry this list on forever.

Don't EVER EVER come here and issue your CRAP here again.
Thank you.
YOU are SO insulting and elitist then whine YOU believe 'dialogue isn't possible'? When you can dialogue, fine, but surely you have elsewhere to soothe your intellectually insecure soul.

You're the most hypocritical jerk on the websites and I don't want you here anymore unless you can stick with the message in the posts and stop your utterly STUPID and constant crap about "it's all because of Republicans"

If you can't see the attempts at budding Socialism by this horrid president, that's YOUR FAULT, not OURS.

Those who know me well know this nasty comment is very unlike me but, I don't CARE ANYMORE: you're not using GeeeeZ to insult or spew your ideologies here again.
I have always welcomed leftwingers here and only BB-IDAHO had a shred of dignity and kindness in his comments, .....NONE of the others have EVER. That says a LOT to me, it should to you, too.

beamish said...


Connect these dots:

"Today marks the beginning of a year-long celebration commemorating the one hundred twenty-fifth anniversary of the birth of Theodore Roosevelt, one of America's heroes and larger-than-life personalities.

Born with considerable physical handicaps, Theodore Roosevelt overcame his afflictions and drew strength from his triumph over personal adversity, a strength he would later devote to the public good. Through sheer willpower, he became a rugged outdoorsman and active conservationist, the organizer of the Rough Riders, a fearless crusader against corruption and for law and order, an explorer, a social reformer and author, our youngest President, and the first of our citizens to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. He was truly an American Renaissance man. His life was a voyage of discovery guided by deep principle and private morality.

He was also our first modern chief executive, rejecting isolationism and leading America into active participation in world decisions for which we shared responsibility. Never again would the leaders of the Old World act without regard to this new world power called the United States. He understood our people and our spirit. He identified the national character with the words, "Americanism means the virtues of courage, honor, justice, truth, sincerity, and hardihood—the virtues that made America." And I might add, the virtues that made Theodore Roosevelt.

Now, Therefore, L Ronald Reagan, President of the United States of America, do hereby proclaim October 27, 1982, as a Day of National Celebration of the one hundred twenty-fifth anniversary of the birth of Theodore Roosevelt. I ask all Americans to join me in commemorating the birth of this fearless American hero. Let us redouble our efforts to confront adversity and promote the virtues and ideals of Americanism.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this twenty-seventh day of October, in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and eighty-two, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and seventh."
- President Ronald Reagan, Proclamation 4992; October 27, 1982

Glenn Beck's entire basis (and schtick) for calling Newt Gingrich a "progressive leftist" is that Gingrich has expressed admiration for Teddy Roosevelt. I wasn't aware we were supposed to be demonizing Teddy Roosevelt as some far-left untouchable, nonetheless eyeball the name of that author of that glowing Presidential Proclamation above, which says a whole hell of a lot nicer things about Teddy Roosevelt than Newt Gingrich has ever said in his own admirations. By what passes for reasoning in the alcohol-damaged cerebral cortex of Glenn Beck, Ronald Reagan too was a "progressive leftist." This isn't dodgeball, nonetheless Beck can't dodge this pipe wrench.

Keep in mind Glenn Beck has gone on to say that people who support Newt Gingrich are merely seeking to trade a black-skinned progressive leftist for a white-skinned "progressive leftist." Here we have the race card. People who support Newt Gingrich must be racist because in Glennbeckistan, you could paint Gingrich up in blackface and he'd be indistinguishable from Obama.

To the next dot, Glenn Beck throws his support behind Ron Paul, who went on state-run Iranian television news in 2009, famous for its "Death to Israel" to criticize Israel and condemn American foreign policy while defending Hamas' terrorism against Israel.

By my hourglass, 2009 came well before 2011.

Newt Gingrich supporters are "racist progressive leftists," but Ron Paul supporters can see Iran and Hamas are the "good guys" over the Great Satan and the Little Satan.

Where's the daylight between Glenn Beck and Media Matters? I don't see any.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Beck could have lost his show to dwindling sponsorship. And due to leftist threat of boycotts. I found it entertaining, but not in a convenient time slot.
Yet I find him manipulative.
About all I watch on TV is Fox and DVDs. And I cringe at Shepard Smith's new show. Not a conservative approach.

Z said...

ED, I can't watch Shepard Smith; he was never a conservative and he acts like we care what his opinions are..very weird guy...what new show does he have?
Beck's show folded precisely because of the Left, sponsorship, etc. They used Alinsky and Alinsky worked again......people are apparently complaining mightily about his being off the air now.

Ducky's here said...

and giving euphemistic titles to those who want anything but to fit in



Fit in with whom?

Fit in with evangelicals?
Strident militarists?

Fit in?

No, you learn to fit in first because ain't many buying what you're selling.

Kid said...

I see the democrats and their supporters similar to the muslims in the One respect that they (democrats) have declared war on us (Conservatives, Libertarians, Americans) but we have not as a significant number realized we are at war with them.

They own the schools.

They own the media. Fox is not particularly valuable and might even be a feint by them anyway imo.

They have the election fraud down to a fine art.

The repubs have this illusion they can sleep with the scorpion and wake up unscathed (let themselves be interviewed by the democrat vampire tools at the democrat media) They are wrong. This gets them nothing. Only by taking a stand and giving voters a CLEAR choice do they have a chance of winning an election.

I think when oblabber gets re-elected in 2012 and really puts the stalinist/leninist hammer down more will get a clue.

I think it's already too late, but I will always go out and vote against them at any opportunity.

Z said...

Ducky, I think you'll be very surprised how many are buying what conservatives are 'selling'..

As for 'fitting in' didn't understand again. Yes, UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS instead of ILLEGALS, etcetc...GOD FORBID the right calls people for what they MEAN, how country-ruining your euphamists are.
Stick with your idiotic political correct thing; it's working. And you WILL have your socialist dream and oh, my God, will you be sorry.

Kid, I was talking to some young preschool teachers today...I was stunned at how onto Obama they finally are. One's also half black, gorgeous girl, and she said "I don't want the country he wants for my daughter, I want freedom and opportunity and for her to do as well as she can and make as much as she can..."
I was really quite surprised.
Then a high school student where I teach got into it with me about how awful Obama is and how he hopes he's not elected. Quite a day; I was pretty surprised.

I also saw my first Obama 2012 bumper sticker in Los Angeles today.......imagine actually being FOR him instead of "against the Republican"?? WOW

Glenn Beck's #1 Fan said...

Glenn Beck is my god!

beamish said...

And if we had a perfect media just what would we all KNOW that we don't now?

That the CIA Psychological Warfare School in Nome, Alaska has a final exam which involves kidnapping people and brainwashing them into believing they were abducted by UFOs.

Bob said...

Damned, Beamish. Or, is it Damned Beamish? Here it is Saturday afternoon, and I read your challenge to me to connect the dots. That's not fair after a celebratory, and late, Friday night.

Then, I had to read multiple paragraphs and that looked like the Encyclopedia Britannica. Oh, my aching head. But, I had to try to come up with a smart-ass retort to keep net denizens like yourself at bay.

It turns out the stuff was good reading. Thanks.

I was never a great Beck fan, and always thought he was a little weird in his dot connecting. My favorite Beck shows were when he was after Van Jones, and kept playing Jone's own words and videos, over and over. He let Jones hang himself. I suppose you could do the same thing to Beck.

As far as his references to Newt, I don't believe I ever heard them. Newt is certainly no lefty, and Ron Paul fell off the good sense wagon a long time ago. Even when I lived in Texas, I knew Ron Paul was crazy.

Thanks for your comments and references. They are helpful.

Z said...

had to delete DUcky's ridiculous insults again, but he did ask a question that's revealing.

"And what if we had a PERFECT MEDIA?"

This is a fabulous illustration of the leftwing attitude....who ever said PERFECT? Conservatives want all sides to be shown respect, we expect, especially in America, what immigrants who came here desirous of being American expected; the NEWS. ALL the news...not slams to the Right and passes for the Left.

I just don't know why that's so hard to understand and why anybody has to go to PERFECT. So typical.

BOb, his dot connecting might have been heeded and we'd have a lot less liberals than we do today, babe.

beamish said...


Why did you delete my link to Breitbart exposing more of Glenn Beck's fraud, hypocrisy, and under-handedness?

Z said...

easy! just tired of the whole nastiness and, as much as I'm not the biggest of his many fans (not even close), I do know he exposed a lot which needed exposing but he was killed as the messenger. That's a dangerous situation.

post it at your blog. thanks.

beamish said...

I forgot about the rules of the echo chamber here.

See ya around.

Z said...

No echo chamber and you know it...
but you can be as coy as you need to be.

beamish said...

Not coy at all. Perhaps you should make it more clear that criticism of race-baiting psuedo-conservatives will result in deletion.

Z said...

OK! thanks