Friday, October 12, 2012

Paul Ryan

So, after the debate :  Think he's up to it?



I DO.

z

100 comments:

beamish said...

Up to what?

Right Wing Theocrat said...

Apparently some of the folks are saying he could have done better, but biden didn't do himself any favors by being an ass.

I'm pretty sure Ryan can do the job, he has the skills and determination, but many out there are still wooed by style and the facade. Let's hope there aren't too many of them around.

Ducky's here said...

Beamish, up to getting his ass kicked.

Ryan spent his time fumbling and pausing trying to remember his boiler plate responses.





Constitutional Insurgent said...

I don't necessarily use a debate to gauge aptitude for office, but Ryan at least did better than Obama did in his debate.

Lady Gun Slinger said...

As usual, Biden was a total Buffoon last night with that stupid and 5th grader Smirk on his face all night, he was obnoxious and indifferent!
One has to wonder if his ever told him that there is no good excuse for bad manners?
Biden acted like a fool, and every one who saw that debate knew it as well as the people around the world who are laughing at the US, both last night and today as well.. Biden truly represents Obama's worthless policy agenda and all their crooked coverups. and lies.

Ducky's here said...

Gun Slinger were you just gushing when Ryan got stuffed admitting he'd continue the Afghanistan fiasco past 2014?

He got stuffed on Iran also.

Can't blame Biden for smirking at that fool's ignorance. It would have been super human to keep a straight face.

Lady Gun Slinger said...



You can't blame Biden Ducky? Well I can!
For 90 minutes, Biden sat there laughing and
smirking.
What I saw last night was an old,angry drunk attacking, and interrupting someone trying to engage in a rational discussion of issues.
As usual, Biden was a total Arrogant Buffoon last night with that stupid and 5th grader Smirk on his face all night, he was obnoxious and indifferent!

Rita said...

It seemed the interruptions an outright laughing got worse and just became such a distraction. I woke up with morning with two CNN alerts on my phone. The first was about the Nobel Prize the second said 48% thought Ryan won the debate with 44% Biden.

The laughing at serious issues was probably not a good idea.

Lady Gun Slinger said...

Perhaps Biden missed the Libyan Embassy Hearing the other day! That was sad, because he would have heard his own party admit that they SCREWED up with their lack of security and admitting they knew about the Cocknbull story about the "Film".

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Lady Gun Slinger said...

What we saw last night was an Pitiful., Arrogant, Nasty, Lying, Performance from a Sitting Vice President, who was OVER-TRYING to redeem his boss for his miserable performance.!

FreeThinke said...

"What we saw last night was an Pitiful., Arrogant, Nasty, Lying, Performance from a Sitting Vice President ..."

If you had added just one letter -- a decidedly impolite "h" -- to your otherwise-apt description of Bully Boy Biden, the Bombastic Boor, your statement would have been perfect, dear lady.

Our vice president is little more than a THUG.

~ FreeThinker

Elmers Brother said...

and here are the reasons why what duhkkky says matters....ala September 12 2012

Duhkkky says:

Religious freak(Terry Jones) trying to make money off stirring up Muslims posts a video. He is assisted by a Coptic religious freak in exile in the U.S.

EB: and we all know that it wasn't Terry Jones at all.

Relatively small groups riot in Egypt and Libya. Probably al-Qaeda splinters generating maximum outrage.

EB: it wasn't a protest at all but a military like assault

Meanwhile we've got Bibi the Boob lobbying to throw a few hot ones Iran's way and Obama telling him to take a hike. Glad our "allies" are helping out.

irrelevent

The al-Qaeda freaks are weakened and we should continue to remain calm and try to marginalize them further.

EB: somebody should tell Chris Stevens and the three others who died


We have weakened and marginalized Al-Qaeda. Their hope of reconstituting themselves lies in our responding indiscriminately to these outrages.

EB: see previous response


Huffington says it's an Israeli who received $5 million in funding from Israeli donors. Five million for that? Even Michael Cimino could have brought it in for 20,000.

EB: wrong again, it was a man with ties to Islamic jihadists


... and Governor Olympics really jumped the gun. Obama was clearly in command while Mittens jumped on whatever early information he could find to fan the flames.
Obama is going to pound on that. Bye-bye Mittens.

EB: turns out Romney was ahead of Obama on this and Obama ended up more or less repeating what Romney said

Now Libya is tragic (and there are demonstrations in Benghazi against the attack) but this is all Al-Qaeda has left. Not much of a force. Obama has done a fine job castrating them.

EB: that's what Obama wants you to believe...yet 69% of our casualties in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama's watch

But let us know what conspiracy theories are being posted on Breitbart.

why when I can just read your bullshit

Elmers Brother said...

Can't blame Biden for smirking at that fool's ignorance. It would have been super human to keep a straight face

rigggghhht...cuz telegraphing the day of our surrender ala Obama isn't foolish...

sometimes duhkkky you just crack me up

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"EB: that's what Obama wants you to believe...yet 69% of our casualties in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama's watch"

The only part of what you wrote that I would disagree with, is that the casualties have overwhelmingly come as the result of a nation building COIN campaign against a rural insurgency......rather than the result of a CT campaign against al Qaeda.

Elmers Brother said...

You're saying these afghan nationals word planted by Al Qaeda? They simply suffered from PTSD

Elmers Brother said...

Obama's policy of cutting in running hasn't given our military the necessary time to vet those individuals properly

Elmers Brother said...

My brother just got back from Afghanistan how tight is alive and well. Even in the relatively quiet area he was in, they were shelled by mortars and small arms fire several times a day.

Elmers Brother said...

Darn phone. Al queda is alive and well

Anonymous said...

A quick CNN poll of registered voters said 48 percent thought Ryan was the winner, while 44 percent thought Biden claimed the title. Sixty percent of CNN’s respondents said Ryan was presidential, and 53 percent said he was more likable.

A CNBC poll said that 56 percent thought Ryan was the winner, while 36 declared Biden to be the winner.

Does Ducky ever tire of being so consistently wrong about nearly everything?

Elmers Brother said...

Nope

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"You're saying these afghan nationals word planted by Al Qaeda? They simply suffered from PTSD"

I'm not following. What I'm saying is that the overwhelming percentage of our engagements and targeting in AFG is directed towards, and in response to the Taliban, et al....as opposed to al Qaeda, which was at least rhetorically linked by the conversation with Ducky.

Considering that Romney also endorses a 2014 timeline, does that mean he favors "cutting and running" as well?

Z said...

Ducky, no, that's someone who takes a split second to form coherent, informative sentences that actually answer the question instead of blustering into it.

Lady Gun; everyone saw the kind of heart Biden has last night; I've always wondered about anyone who gets a wider grin on his face the nastier the words come out of his mouth; I don't know too many people like that. creepy

Ryan made an excellent point on not wanting troops in after 2014 but figuring our boots on the ground know significantly more than a lousy president with no respect for his advisers.

Elbro; THAT was the line I couldn't remember this morning; that insane line about how great it is to tell our enemies when we're leaving "SO THEY CAN STEP UP!" REALLY, Biden? And SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO KILL WHO"VE STILL GOT THERE< TOO! He simply didn't understand, did he...just kept hunkering down. AWFUL man...and even stupid on that point. WHAT are they THINKING?

Elmers Brother said...

What I'm saying Is that these attacks By so called Friendlies didn't happen in a vacuum.

Elmers Brother said...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/10/06/us-suspects-some-afghan-insider-attacks-are-linked-to-haqqani-network-with-ties/

Silverfiddle said...

Biden's clownish, behavior only did him good with the msnbc nutballs, to normal people, he looked like a smirking chimp who was preparing to bite your face off.

Paul Ryan did a good job and acquitted himself well.

Who would you rather have represent the United States of America overseas? The smirking chimp or the intelligent, respectful and and respectable Vice President Ryan?

No choice.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

EB: I'm not arguing about vacuums or HQN. My point was Taliban [COIN] v. al Qaeda [CT].

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"Smirking Chimp"

Interesting choice of words...that's one of the labels the left applied to Bush.

conservativesonfire said...

Paul Ryan didn't shine but he didn't hurt himself either. Biden demagoged the show away last night and the socialist moderator was there to help Joe.

Always On Watch said...

Ryan came across as a more serious person; Biden came across as a show stealer.

Which would Americans rather have in a position of governance? I'd rather have the former -- even if I didn't agree with that person.

Frankly, had Ryan behaved the way that Biden did, I'd have been pissed off.

Always On Watch said...

Lady Gun Slinger,
What I saw last night was an old,angry drunk attacking, and interrupting someone trying to engage in a rational discussion of issues.

Good call. I'll go along with that 100%!

JonBerg said...

Although Biden was: rude, smirking, disrespectful ,bombastic,disingenous,dishonest, shallow and, otherwise, a complete @$$; this will have little or no adverse impact on his base. His presentation was the personification of the DemocRAT party!

beamish said...

Beamish, up to getting his ass kicked.

I would have liked to have seen what the debate would have been like if the facts-and-figures guy Ryan was given a Romney plan to work with. But then, Romney would actually have to have a plan, wouldn't he?

beamish said...

...I mean, a plan that draws a stark departure from his career left-wing posturing.

beamish said...

Considering that Romney also endorses a 2014 timeline, does that mean he favors "cutting and running" as well?

Romney's still trying to figure out how to make Afghans need a Staples store.



Elmers Brother said...

My point is that Al Qaeda has been linked to these attacks and certainly in contrast to. What ducky asserts is still very relevant

Liberalmann said...

Ryan; 24 lies in 40 minutes:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/10/12/1002021/at-the-vice-presidential-debate-ryan-told-24-myths-in-40-minutes/

Elmers Brother said...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/al-qaeda-still-afghanistan_650051.html

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/09/al_qaeda_weapons_exp.php

Still very relevant in Afghanistan

Always On Watch said...

EB,
Is it my imagination, or is the situation in Afghanistan worse than a year ago? A year ago, my USMC cousin returned from a tour of duty there; he implied that he was bored out of his skull.

Thersites said...

I actually like Gonzo Joe Biden...

...after all, the world LOVES a lush.

Ducky's here said...

Well, if Mittens/Eddie Munster have their way the situation in Afghanistan will be worse.

For all the talk of Biden's deportment it is being overlooked that Eddie Munster wants us there longer for some unspecified reason.
When you have a debate opponent who is next to comatose and has no depth of course you attack and make him look like a high school student.

Mustang said...

Everyone needs to see this post-debate recap at Brooke’s blog. Be sure to watch the short video.

Anonymous said...


From Z of GeeeZ at work:

SF, well said...AOW and Lady Gun...you nailed it.

It was laughable.
Now we have lefties quoting to us from THINK PROGRESS for "their facts":)
we have other lefties in an apparent rage at the fact that their guy was so inappropriate and came off like an over-aged punk kid trying to impress.

Biden was trying to rattle Ryan; it was their great hope.

Didn't happen.

nice stuff.

Elbro: It appears that what's called for by the experts on the ground doesn't apply; Obama knows best and he's bowing to world opinion. This is the new America.
Ryan got his points in on that; are Americans going to be snowed by the mischaracterizations or did they think "Ya, how DUMB is it to tell your enemy when you're going home?"

Ryan was right; you can't leave SOME of our people behind as if the Taliban's whittling down their forces to echo ours! Almost as stupid as Obama telling Russia "We'll put our toys away and we KNOW you'll do the same! RIGHT?" :-)
What's the matter with those in charge now? my GOSH.

Mustang said...

Ducky, let me attempt to explain this in language you can understand. Only a bonehead announces his intent to his enemy. We apparently failed to learn this lesson from the Vietnam War. We failed to learn this lesson from Carter’s botched “rescue attempt” during the Iran crisis.

Now personally, I do not think the US had any business invading Afghanistan. We should not be in the nation-building business at our working citizen’s expense. I do not think even one Afghani is worth the life of an American soldier. I think we should leave Afghanistan today at noon. Obviously, I think Ryan was wrong to suggest that we “might” stay longer if necessary —it is a foreign policy I am unable to endorse. The entire discussion about our intentions demonstrates what morons our government’s leaders are: extremist organizations will benefit from such information.

Rita said...

I do wish Ryan had called Ol Joe out on the laughing. "Mr. Vice President I don't believe most people think the killing of four Americans in a terrorist plot is funny". I think Biden would have been better off to pick his moments to laugh or smirk. Watching him do it during very important issues made if appear that the administration doesn't take these things seriously enough.

I really want to know what true undecided voters thought and it seems impossible to find out because their truly isn't an impartial media anywhere.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

@Mustang - I agree fully with your 2nd paragraph, but let pose a question: would the absence of a timeline impact your fight against an occupying power, were that occupation to occur here?

-FJ said...

would the absence of a timeline impact your fight against an occupying power, were that occupation to occur here?

Conversely, does the existence of a timeline alter the tactics and strategies that you might employ.

Clauswitz, "On War" WAR THEREFORE IS AN ACT OF VIOLENCE INTENDED TO COMPEL OUR OPPONENT TO FULFIL OUR WILL

It is our will to forfeit the field of battle to the real victors, so try and stop us?

Mustang said...

@CI … I would find a time line most encouraging; the absence of a time line would dictate caution respecting strategy and tactics. The latter would demand conservation of manpower and logistics, the former would encourage a surge of insurgent activities.

Announcing a timeline for withdrawal, as has already occurred in Afghanistan, signals a coalition defeat; it is presently a hot topic in Pakistani newspapers. This does not bode well for what troops remain behind, and in my personal opinion, it is nothing short of political malfeasance.

beamish said...

Only a bonehead announces his intent to his enemy.

Not necessarily. You could announce an intention to kill everyone in sight, and enforce it with strafing runs on those attempting to bury their dead.

beamish said...

Ryan was right; you can't leave SOME of our people behind as if the Taliban's whittling down their forces to echo ours!

Looks to me like the Taliban is training Afghans to fight us faster than we are training Afghans to fight them.

Anonymous said...

From Z:

"they should leave Afghanistan today at noon".


Mustang, you crack me up!

The thing is that Ryan was SO right and Biden didn't seem to want to grasp it...you can't leave guys there without the PROPER AMOUNT of our guys there...or our pitifully reduced troop numbers will be attacked/killed..

Was Ryan wrong?

z

Constitutional Insurgent said...

@Mustang - Those are fair answers. The only caveat I would have is that the time between deciding on an 'unannounced' timeline and when the enemy hears about it [especially given the corrupt regime in Kabul] would be short enough to render the argument nearly moot.

My larger issue regarding withdrawal has always been the insistence on a COIN campaign against a rural insurgency v. a CT campaign against al Qaeda.

I certainly agree with the concept of withdrawing all forces immediately, rather than the current "transition" strategy.

Bob said...

Biden was drunk, again. It is impossible for a sober person to talk sense to a drunk, and that's what you had with Biden.

Obama has made the most ignorant mistake of any leader in the history of the world. He has told our enemies that date of when we will leave the battlefield. That idiot's policies will force us into returning to both Afghnistan and Iraq.

As is obvious, Bush was right. Just killing Bin Laden didn't even slow up Al Queda. They are bigger and stronger than ever, but just in different places. Obama and the Democrats are simple fools, and Biden leads the whold KoolAide drinking bunch.

When this term is over, I wonder if Biden will go into rehab.

Bob said...

Constitutional :"The only caveat I would have is that the time between deciding on an 'unannounced' timeline and when the enemy hears about it [especially given the corrupt regime in Kabul] "

Mustang is right when he says, "Only a bonehead announces his intent to his enemy."

Just because the regime in Kabul is corrupt, it doesn't matter. That's not a new thing in our experience, and we should be able to deal with that.

The reason for our presence in Afghanistan was and is to prevent that piece of real estate from being a recruiting and training ground for Islamic terrorists, like the Taliban and Al Queda.

Our problems will not be solved by running from Afghanistan and Iraq. The decision to give the world a date of withdrawal was a stupid mistake. Not in history has any other leader been so naive as Obama. The guy was not and is not ready to lead this country.

Now, real Americans will have to go back to those exact same places to root Al Queda out, again. If not we can expect more and more operations mounted against the continental USA because terrorists will have sanctuary in at least two very large pieces of real estate, Afghanistan and Iraq.

They won't be planning Sunday School parties. It's the death of thousands of American citizens they will be planning.

Anonymous said...

From Z of GeeeZ:

Bob, very well said.
The leftwingers will now proceed in calling you a hate monger, Muslim-hater, America-first nut, war lover, and maybe the father of a deluded, indoctrinated American soldier ("why ELSE would they )volunteer?")

The fact that ANYONE ON THIS EARTH thinks that giving an exit date is a good idea is unfathomable to me...what the...?

You have a point about the booze, too, Bob.....Biden could have been a little loaded; I've never seen anybody interrupt so many times and have such bizarre grimaces and smiles at THE most grave of times.

My Gosh, MAN...argue the facts, nobody needs your facial gymnastics.

Thank GOD Ryan didn't fall into the trap I believe Biden's handlers had set..."keep at him, smile, grimace, interrupt, he's young, he'll break, and then he and Romney are TOAST"

GOod on you, Paul Ryan.

z

Darth Bacon said...

Bozo

Darth Bacon said...

Is that all you can can say Schmucky?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

@Bob - "Surely you can appreciate that it is fairly impossible to keep a withdrawal plan a secret in Kabul, when the plan depends on a security transition plan. Saying "it doesn't matter" sort of dodges the reality.

"The reason for our presence in Afghanistan was and is to prevent that piece of real estate from being a recruiting and training ground for Islamic terrorists, like the Taliban and Al Queda"

al Qaeda doesn't need sanctuary in AFG or Iraq to carry out terrorist attacks. COIN is a whack-a-mole approach to terrorism. You cannot destroy a terror organization by trying to deny real estate one country at a time...you have to go after the terror organization.

A fundamental error in our foreign policy was when we elevated the disparate Taliban groups on par with al Qaeda. We've been reaping the effects since 2002.

Thersites said...

Think he's up to it?

What I think doesn't matter. It's what Calliope thinks...

Anonymous said...

from Z of GeeeZ:

Const. Insurg....I think the fundamental problem would have been discounting the horror of the taliban as less troublesome than Al Qaeda.

And I think it is important that we strangle them somehow THERE and not HERE. Training camps are the bain of our existance at this point; I wonder, frankly, how that one in Washington State's doing long about now?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"I think the fundamental problem would have been discounting the horror of the taliban as less troublesome than Al Qaeda."

To each their own. I'm far less concerned with what groups who have no motivation, means or goals to become a national security concern don in their country......than I am with transnational terror groups who can operate from any number of ungoverned and unregulated spaces.

I'm all about the THERE when it comes to destroying the infrastructure of Jihadist groups.....unfortunately the THERE isn't WHERE we are.

Pris said...

CI,
Surely you know it was the Taliban who were in power in Afghanistan and it was they, who allowed Al Qaida to have their training camps there.
There really is no difference between those two groups!

While I'm at it, let me just say that in WWII, the words, "exit strategy", was not in our lexicon.

The only exit strategy then, was winning, and surrender by our enemies!

Anonymous said...

From Z of GeeeZ:

CI, I get what you're saying about the Taliban...I just wonder if they could have become at least as powerful as AQ if we hadn't kept them on the run like we have.
Also, I can't imagine AQ isn't full of Taliban members.........??

Anyway, it's a tough line...do we protect ourselves here by fighting there? We're not even fighting hard enough HERE at our borders and we all know it's not just Hispanics illegally entering our MX and Canadian borders!

Pris.."surrender by our enemies"? "Perish the thought," said the liberal! "who are WE to force others to surrender? They have every RIGHT to hate us!"

:-) we both could go on with that nonsense, couldn't we.

x

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"There really is no difference between those two groups!"

I'm sorry you feel that way. You're not alone, most people only believe the extent of what you posted regarding hosting al Qaeda and call it a day, intellectually speaking.

A fundamental distaste for understanding what we're up against is the foundation for the situation we've been in since 2002. This isn't a knock on you, it endemic of the attitudes prevalent in the media and inside the beltway.

Anyone who has wished for a generational fight against tribes of illiterate goat herders have certainly gotten their wish.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"We're not even fighting hard enough HERE at our borders......"

Yes! Exactly. Our priorities are a wee bit skewed.

Rita said...

Just reviewing the comments in a Yahoo article of Hilary saying they are still sorting out what happened in Benghazi. The commenters overwhelmingly do not buy what the administration is selling. And the numbers of thumbs ups on the comments blasting Obama, Biden and Clinton tells me this might just be America finally waking up.

A few months ago nearly all Yahoo commenters were singing the praises of O's administration. So either Yahoo's readership has moved to the right or people are seeing the light.

Benghazi is not going away.

Elmers Brother said...

I believe so. They know we're leaving and have increased attacks. Even Leon Panetta has warned that this administrations policies in Afghanistan invites the enemy to attack

Elmers Brother said...

Hes not claiming to have made al queda irrelevant

Elmers Brother said...

I take solace in the fact that based on the debate performances, that Obama has made Biden look like a f'n genius.

cube said...

I think he's up to it. A heck of a lot more up to it than Obama AND Biden together.

Anonymous said...

From Z:

Const. Insurg; What do you think I have a
"fundamental distaste" for?? please?

Rita...I'm astonished at the polls Yahoo's homepage has taken recently; they're leaning so conservative in politics and ethics that I'd actually rejoice if I hadn't been shown to be too optimistic too many times....!

People have FINALLY started understanding how the media's lying to them and are actually listening to conservatives now...just think: Americans given both sides of everything and actually thinking for themselves!

Brooke said...

Ryan nailed Jello to the wall last night, Z!

Lady Gun Slinger said...

I think that Uncle Joe had too much bourbon last night, or is he always that disrespectful!

Bottom lines is that we have a bunch of drunks and dope snorting snide blathering idiots running this country.

King of all trolls said...

Smirking Joe interrupted Paul Ryan 82 times in 90 minutes.
And that FOOL is our Vice President!

He looked more like the Joker than a Vice President.

Lisa said...

I agree that I don't think Ryan was a superhero but he was alot easier to respect.
The lie from Biden about seniors receiving better care was a lie because for every 500.00 toward their wellness care 7,000 yes thousand is taken from their hospital care.And it is true that 1in every 6 nursing homes and hospitals will close under Obamacare. Just because old dingbat says it convincingly doesn't make it so. The old saying is that democrats will lead you to the gates of hell smiling with their arm around your shoulder.
Oh and Ducky Ryn did not say the paln to stay in Afghanistan past the 2014 deadline. He said they want to make sre it is secure before they do.
I don't know why the republicans never call out Obama on his ending the Iraq war when those timelines were set before he took office.

Z said...

I got a lot of this in emails today:

"When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs; and there is no peace and quiet." ~ Proverbs 29:9

The Bible really IS so wise :-)

(so was Ryan!)

Rita said...

Down here (in Florida) I've noticed the Romney ads are quite and reserved. Explaining their plan and not bashing Obama.

The only Obama ad I've noticed is not chock full of lies about Romney and Ryan.

Oh, and today the house phone rings. Sine we use our cell phones only it is almost always a sales call even though the phone is registered on the Do Not Call List.

So I was shocked when some lady says she's calling from the Obama Campaign wondering if I could contribute.

I gave a manical Joe Biden laugh and said, "Not no, but hell no". She must have been about as dense as the rest of the Obots because then she asked me if I was still undecided. I said I have never been undecided. Then she asked me if I was supporting Mitt Romney. I told her I was supporting anybody but Obama.

I'll give her credit, she never got rude during my cackling in the phone and wished me a good day as did I.

I grinned just like Ol Joe did last night. It felt good and creepy all at the same time.

FrogBurger said...

I smell the end

Kid said...

LISA, "I don't know why the republicans never call out Obama on his ending the Iraq war when those timelines were set before he took office".

I noticed that too. sigh..
obama had ZERO effect on Iraq. In fact, the evacuation was a month late but I'm not going to take issue with that.

Kid said...

PS - it was obama that escalated a stupid war in Afghanistan.

Why stupid?
1.Karzai often sides with the taliban.
2.. A-stan will Never be a unified country. 4 year old's know this.
3. Bush should have left in 2004.
4 and bottom line: obama should have never escalated in A-stan. he should have left asap after he tool office. We'd have a large number less of dead or maimed sons and daughters - that he and biden could give a shit less about.

Z said...

FB ...I swear there's something about how the State Dept has thrown Obama under the bus by denying what Obama's WH is saying about LIbya...

the whole thing STINKS. A LEFTWING STATE DEPT telling a different story than the Obama jerks?

REALLY?


By the way, wait till you see Mustang's video tomorrow.......about Democrat voter fraud. It'll make you sick.


Rita...good on you!

Kid...I wish we'd left earlier.

Z said...

http://news.yahoo.com/conversations-malala-yousafzai-girl-stood-taliban-133500248.html

Const. Insurgent: i'd say the Taliban's PRETTY brutal.
Note that her valley was 'cleared'...something is working, apparently.

and then they shoot her.

Liberalmann said...

Z said...

I got a lot of this in emails today:

"When a wise person debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs; and there is no peace and quiet." ~ Proverbs 29:9

----

Yes, that applies to Romney too, right? After all both he and Ryan told lies which bordered on criminal.

Z said...

Oh, man, Liberalmann...I'm actually starting to feel truly sorry for you.

grow up.

Liberalmann said...

Biden was rude. Didn't his mother ever tell him not to interrupt as traitorous liar?

Z said...

Oh, great...liberalmann's gone PSYCHO on us again.

Biden was laughing so inappropriately even TAMARA HOLDER THE LIBERAL said "He was on whatever Obama wasn't on during HIS debate"...my GOD.. that was telling!! And she's a HUGE LIBERAL (dope).

Ducky's here said...

Taibbi on why Biden should have laughed

Rita said...

Libamann, Sybil aka FJ is calling you.

Impertinent said...

@Libturd

"After all both he and Ryan told lies which bordered on criminal...."


Nothing like the lies your sacred cow hillary, cutter, rice, lamb, carney and the POS in cheep did when they watched and listened to the murders of an ambassador and 3 other Americans in real time...and then for two weeks after they still lie like the pieces of dung they really are? I'm praying that Hillary comes clean and tosses the bastard under her bus. God knows what kind of deal he's offering the Clintons ( who hate his jive ass anyway ) right now. We all know Hillary has more balls than the kenyan liar and cheat, don't we.

That's not criminal you piece of shit?

STFU you disgusting moron. God..i'd love to get a piece of you to mount on my wall.

Impertinent said...

@kid

"and bottom line: obama should have never escalated in A-stan.."


And irreversible shit hole that will always be a shit hole. I agree with Mustang....not one American's life is worth 10,000 of the savages. We will never change it...it will never be into the 21st century. They're filthy illiterate animals and totally worthless.

I hope they get Kazaazzi or what ever his name is and chop his ass into a million tiny pieces and feed him to their wives and their dogs...same thing.

If I had to make the choices....it'd be one entire country of radioactive glass beads

What the hell did they give to the world anyway? The Taliban? Do they produce anything besides poppy / heroin? Cars? Computers? Medicine? the Sciences?

Leaving a-stan as a huge gaping crater wouldn't effect anyone on the planet and they'd never be missed....never.

Leticia said...

Biden and the moderator wouldn't let Ryan finish, he was constantly interrupted by the idiocy and disrespectful laughing and snickering.

I think he can do the job. He behaved with great decorum and he may not have fought as hard as I would have liked to have seen but held his ground and landed a few good punches.

Mustang said...

I do think he's up to it. The sooner, the better.

FrogBurger said...

I think the debate should have "been brought to us by Biden's dentist."

FrogBurger said...

After all both he and Ryan told lies which bordered on criminal.

This is why we can't take you seriously Libmoron. You just hyperventilate like a female teenager who just met Justin Bieber.

Come back to us when you've grown a little bit.

FrogBurger said...

You know what I think of leftist commenters who keep coming back to a Conservative blog?

Deep down, they feel like we're the right people to hang out with. Why would one spend so much time with the enemy? I don't visit left wing blogs all day.

I think someone like Libman wants to feel good about himself so he's on the left but he comes here because deep down he's not so sure of his beliefs.

That's why he has to post links vs checking with himself to know what his core values are.

It's pretty sad in a way.

Average American said...

Eighty two interuptions in ninety minutes! That must be a record, even for that blowhard asshole Biden! Somebody needs to tell the old geezer it's about time to retire, oh, and either stop smiling so much or tint your teeth a bit less bright Joe. The reflection of light makes it hard to see the smirky look on your face.

FreeThinke said...

I STILL say we need to add the letter "h" to the phrase "a sitting vice-president."

Our of respect for Z and other ladies here present I'll leave it to your imagination as to where the extra letter needs to be placed.

But, I'm sure you get the idea, right? };-)>

Have a glorious day!


~ FT

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"Const. Insurg; What do you think I have a
"fundamental distaste" for?? please?"

Z - I'm not referring to you personally. When I hold a discussion with someone online...someone I don't know...I don't make it personal.

I'm referring to the propensity by both parties to obfuscate, distract and conveniently ignore the actions and positions of their party/ideology when they have been proven to be incorrect or detrimental.

Our very rational and understandable course taken when we went into Afghanistan and overthrew the Taliban regime has morphed into a paradigm where we have demoted al Qaeda to a corollary compared to the overwhelming proportion of our defense apparatus being engaged against a rural insurgency with no tangible threat to our national security.

Politicians, their enablers an the media have allowed the reality of the situation to devolve into the public believing that the disparate Taliban groups are THE threat to our security and thus requires an overwhelming amount of effort.....while ironically allowing even that focus to be diverted to Iraq in 2003.

When the Obama Administration states that al Qaeda is on their heels....they're grossly inaccurate. They exacerbated the problem, but they didn't start it. The fundamental distaste refers to a sad majority in this nation that refuse to challenge their preconceived notions, instead seeking only confirmation bias, often through the lens of a media outlet that affirms it.

Z said...

Const Insu...I understand that, but "this isn't a knock on you" suggests I'm included and I was less offended than just curious.
I'm not sure I agree totally with you but I will say that the minute one party moves a smidge to a saner position, the media jumps on it (as does the other party) and it's suddenly FLIP FLOPPING or CHANGING POSITIONS, etc..always pejorative, right?

I don't even come clean here at my blog when I see Republicans screw up (though I think I do more than most) because I'm not hanging ammunition to my nasty lefties who'll NEVER EVER admit a leftwinger could be wrong.

Obama & Hillary Must Go said...

Silverfiddle said...
Biden's clownish, behavior only did him good with the msnbc nutballs, to normal people, he looked like a smirking chimp who was preparing to bite your face off


No, I beg to dissagree, that POS is not wothe the gum on the bottom of my shoe.