Wednesday, October 3, 2012

Tonight's Presidential Debate

The Commission on Presidential Debates has approved the following topics for the Presidential Debate scheduled for 3 October 2012:

• The Economy - I

• The Economy - II


• The Economy - III


 • Health Care

• The Role of Government


• Governing


 
 " Who here has no idea how the economy works?  Psssst... Put your hand down, sir."

 
Obviously, the economy is getting most of the attention with moderators hoping that they run out of time before Barack Obama gets around to announcing that he’s changed the name of his cabinet to politburo.


With that barb out of the way, pretend for a moment that Romney’s chief of staff just called you on the phone and asked you to offer advice on what Romney should say about the Economy. What would your advice be?

-M and Z

140 comments:

Right Wing Theocrat said...

Perhaps he can remind the viewers how obama caterwauled about the Bush deficits while showing what it's currently.

Perhaps he can remind the viewers of all the promises obama made and failed to deliver on.

Perhaps he can remind the viewers how obama and hillary begged and groveled to the muslim world about a movie but say nothing about attacks against Christianity.

Thersites said...

Pass a law limiting corporate capitalization and requiring distributions of assetts over the maximum to stockholders.

The Views Of A Tea Party Member said...





If you Liberal's think that Republicans are racists, Watch this Video!

Obama is the biggest disgrace the country has ever experienced. If he's re-elected our Republic is dead. He should be tried for treason. Unfortunately, the uneducated, dependent scum that votes for him are clueless. No idea how economics work. If you continue to take my money through more taxation ill loose the desire to work. Then what? Third World country. This is what he wants.

//dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/obama-speech-jeremiah-wright-new-orleans

Mindy B. said...

Thanks Views Of A Tea Party Member for that link to the video I hear everyone talking about.
He evidently was speaking to an ALL black audience, hence the "shout out" to Rev. Wright.
If this were white audience the MSM would be calling them the Klan! And and the Media should be ashamed for suppressing it for all these years.

It sure makes Romney's 47 percent comments look like the small potatoes that it really was,

Brooke said...

Biden gift-wrapped a present for Romney to use tonight...

HAHAHAHAAA!!!

Silverfiddle said...

All Romney needs to do is stick to the facts. They are bleak and no friends to Obama.

He should also channel Reagan and present a simple free-market message. Free markets work everywhere they're tried; central planning always fails. He should provide examples, since there are plenty.

My Conservative Thoughts said...

Thanks, Tea Party guy, that was a very interesting and informative video. I say informative, because it show just how tight Obama was with the King of racism Reverend Wright and just how proud he was about having such a close relationship with the Skum and imitating Wright’s rhetoric on Katrina was. Why should anyone be surprised? Obama used every excuse in the world to explain away his relationship with Reverend Wright during campaign 2008 was a lie. It goes back to that 20 year relationship where he never heard anything. But we already knew that this is old news, news that the lefties didn’t care about when they voted for him in 2008 so why would they care now? We also see here that Obama doesn’t want to build more highways out in the suburbs. That’s news to most of us, and there’s a lot more going on in that statement than racial code.
And every time I see a 60ish white woman pass a black man on the street, I wonder if she is going to cross over to the other side or not!
And another thing, why does he speak with that black accent whenever he addresses a black audience? But this video will not change anyone's mind, if they voted for Obama when they knew all this before but wanted a black man in the office regardless, then nothing will change their stupid minds now. Or how many liberal voters care?

How’s that Hopey-Changey Thing Working Out for Ya? said...

The Obama administration issued new guidance intended for defense contractors Friday afternoon, reiterating the administration’s position that the companies should not be issuing layoff notices over sequestration.
The Labor Department issued guidance in July saying it would be “inappropriate” for contractors to issue notices of potential layoffs tied to sequestration cuts. But a few contractors, most notably Lockheed Martin, said they still were considering whether to issue the notices — which would be sent out just days before the November election.
But the Friday guidance from the Office of Management and Budget raised the stakes in the dispute, telling contractors that they would be compensated for legal costs if layoffs occur due to contract cancellations under sequestration — but only if the contractors follow the Labor guidance.
The guidance said that if plant closings or mass layoffs occur under sequestration, then “employee compensation costs for [Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification] WARN act liability as determined by a court” would be paid for covered by the contracting federal agency.

It's Disgusting.how he just makes up his own laws to suit himself. Maybe this will wake up a few obamazombies to what they are actually voting for.

Robert Sinclair said...

Tell Americans in two minutes how you're going to put them back to work. Focus more on that, and less on the one-liners about lower taxes.

Whatever you do, tell the truth. Remember who your audience is ... it is those individuals who regard themselves as independents and haven't yet decided whether to trust the new guy. So convince them that you deserve a chance to fix our problems. Convince them we cannot sustain another four years of a buried middle class.

Sam Huntington said...

I think Silverfiddle has it right. Obama cannot defeat the facts, even as he wishes to deflect responsibility to someone else. My question is whether the leftist moderator will try to protect Obama from himself.

I think the first debate is the most important one; if Romney loses this first one, he won't recover.

conservativesonfire said...

Since the debates are being run by America's Socialist News Networks, Romney should probably say that since Obama took charge, we no lomger have an economy; just a black hole that he keeps shoveling our tax dollars into ay after day.

Z said...

RWT, good point...and ask "where was that SHOVEL READY situation you promised? And why, instead, did you invest in companies which seemed to be failing?"

Views....you might want to start reading the posts and comments before calling us liberals. man

We saw the link on FOX last night...sad nobody else is running the full speech; for years now it's only been shown selectively; blocking out the racist parts, the Jeremiah-Wright-worshipping parts, etc.

Mindy...what about the ACCENT? Obama speaks sloppily the whole time... cracked me up. How about "where is he AT?"
There's some grammar for a COlumbia, Harvard man, huh? He was really laying it on THICK.

TO ALL:
Romney needs to talk FACTS but he also needs to start with some WHY? WHAT? HOW? questions that will COMPLETELY DISARM OBAMA (and wake Americans who are watching and have had the same questions), I PROMISE:

"WHY are you hiding so much in your healthcare plan about home taxes, etc., and why tell AMerica my administration will stop Medicare when we've never said that, and when Medicare has less of chance of survival under you?"

"HOW are you going to put people back to work when you did nothing about this the last four years, even the first two during which you had a Democrat congress?"

"WHY did you give tax payer money to failing GREEN companies? and then do it again?"

"WHY did you promise SHOVEL READY when there hasn't been any infrastructure building as you'd promised? And where IS the stimulus money?"

"HOW do you feel getting into debt with China so bad our children are going to suffer is a GOOD THING?"

"How did your state department ignore Stevens' feelings of threat in Benghazi and then decide to lie about his death afterwards?"

"WHY would you diss Netanyahu and invite the Muslim Brotherhood Pres of Egypt to the WHITE HOUSE and also not show Israel respect by not having your UN Ambassador and Sec of State stay for his SPEECH to the Gen. Assembly?!!"

It's virtually impossible to come back from those questions without addressing them........and Obama'd be LOST.

etc...

JonBerg said...

"pretend for a moment that Romney’s chief of staff just called you on the phone and asked you to offer advice on what Romney should say about the Economy. What would your advice be?"

1) Stick to the facts

2) Explain in clear, concise terms how the economy works; avoid esoteric language

3) Warn that by printing and borrowing money, with no [real] production to support it, will result in a "Death Spiral"

4) Expose the fact that under the present Administration (3) above is fully in play

5) Explain that fears generated by (4) above, coupled by over-regulation and under utilization of [proven] natural resources has created [uncertainty] and, therefore,reluctance of the 'investment class' to invest in "real production"

6) Explain how the Romney plan will alleviate fears of "uncertainty", held by those who standby with investment resources, by providing a clear and cogent path for investment in real, productive endeavors

7) Should the issue of "the rich (investment class) don't pay their "fair share" arise, be ready to explain that the top 25% already pay >87% of the tax and their resources will be better utlized by investment and NOT by tax increases

8) Should the excuse of "it's all Bush's fault" arise, explain that you (Romney) are interested in [proactive] solutions and NOT [retrospective] conjecture

9) While maintaining the upper-hand, exercise a pleasent demeanor so as not to appear to be beating-up on the little "Man Child"; as difficult as this may be

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Jarhead said...

The liberal media is going to say Obama is the winner no matter what..The so-called non partisan commentators on CNN etc, will dutifully throw Mitt under the bus to prove their 'fairness'. Count on it. These are not debates. They are joint press conferences run by left wing media freaks, and reported by other left-wing freaks!. I don't know if I have the stomach to watch these spewing hateful pigs, I may just watch the baseball game.

FrogBurger said...

I won't even watch. I know who gets my vote and I don't want to suffer through the sound of Obama's voice.

JonBerg said...

FB,

"I don't want to suffer through the sound of Obama's voice."

You make a very good point. It's pretty hard to take!

FrogBurger said...

Honestly, what's the point? If Romney stinks, I'd rather not see it so I don't get depressed. I'm trying to increase my life expectancy by avoiding politics on TV these days. I know where I stand so it'd be a waste of time watching.

Darth Bacon said...

By saying Romney stinks is like voting for Obimmar. good work

Anonymous said...

FROM Z of GeeeZ:

Darth!! he said IF ROMNEY STINKS....re the debate, not in LIFE, he means in the debate...

I'm with FB....I think Romney will do well but the SLIGHTEST thing he isn't 1000000% (and I mean all the 0's) correct about will be HEADLINES in the NY Times and, therefore, everywhere else, too.

See, Obama can rattle off any stat he wants and, unless Romney knows exactly what the TRUE stat is, what can he say? Obama can lie lie lie, no problem.

And it will be a nail biter that all goes well.

I really do think my advice is good...ask Obama HOW? WHAT? WHY? As I outlined above...it's the only thing that could stump the lyin' chump with the brand new southern accent he puts on for black crowds, dontchaknow.

FrogBurger said...

By saying Romney stinks is like voting for Obimmar. good work

Can you read English?

God I'm so tired of people who can't read in their own native language and draw conclusions based on their inability to pay attention.

Anonymous said...

FROM Z:

If this isn't THE BEST EXAMPLE of AMAZING leftwing either stupidity or just plain lies, I don't know WHAT IS...check this from Huff Post out!:

"Akin's allegation of doctors performing abortions on non-pregnant women is particularly puzzling," Mollie Reilly wrote on the Huffington Post, "since, by definition, an abortion cannot be performed if there is no pregnancy to terminate."

Z: DUH...ya THINK? Are you STUPID or just EVIL in your hate toward Aiken??

"But as Dan Amira pointed out on New York magazine's Daily Intel blog, Akin was probably referring to reports of doctors "who tell patients that they are pregnant just so they can make some money off of a phony abortion.
In other words, illegal underground abortion clinics."

z: YA THINK? You THINK that's what he just MIGHT have meant? I heard a woman a few months back on TV who worked for a "Women's Clinic" who said they FREQUENTLY told women they were pregnant and did 'abortions' on them for the $$$

Gee, or maybe a grown man is not smart enough to know you can't do a REAL abortion on someone who's not pregnant? Is THAT what the leftwingers REALLY THINK?

This was such a great example...
absolutely amazing.

Z of GeeeeZ (at work computer)

My Conservative Thoughts said...

FrogBurger said...

By saying Romney stinks is like voting for Obimmar. good work
Can you read English?

God I'm so tired of people who can't read in their own native language and draw conclusions based on their inability to pay attention.



AND I'M TIRED OF JERK-OFF LIKE YOU THAT DRAG DOWN OUR OWN CANDIDATES!

No wonder we are behind, you don't see the Libs/Progressives dragging down their candidate do you.

I think that Darth was right, how do you expect Romney to win if his own party doesn't support him or have faith in him!

Tonight, Obama and Romney will step onto the stage for the first of 3 of the most crucial and most important series of presidential debates in American history. What is at stake is the future of America as we once knew her and who's children will have to live with, so for God's sake, at least stand behind our candidate and support him instead of being so damned negative.

I am downright angry at some of the "Nay-Sayers" here. You sound like a bunch of whiners.. Being Under-confident is not the answer!
You have two choices and two choices only Romney or Obama. Period

FrogBurger said...

Do you people understand the word "IF"?

Stop being emotional children.

Bob said...

Silverfiddle said, "All Romney needs to do is stick to the facts"

Agreed, to a point. However, to control the contest Romney has to go in mean and hard on the lies Obama has been telling the country, even pointing out that Factcheck.org is biased.

I don't want a simple question and answer session. I want to see a rumble.

FrogBurger said...

You have two choices and two choices only Romney or Obama. Period

Are you paying attention?

This is what I said twice:

I know who gets my vote and I don't want to suffer through the sound of Obama's voice.

I know where I stand so it'd be a waste of time watching.

You guys sound like emotional obamabots. Should I call you Romneybot even though I will vote for him?

I will vote for him.

I will vote for him

I will vote for him.

Got it?

FrogBurger said...

AND I'M TIRED OF JERK-OFF LIKE YOU

And you're as moronic as Ducky since you're in the insult department.

You actually sound like a dumb emotional leftist.

Sergeant D Honored Veteran said...


I happen to totally agree with what “My Conservative Thoughts”said above... I think he summed it up, perfectly.
Some of you people don`t seem like the idiots you seem to be writing like. But you are sure talking like idiots now! Why don`t You just vote for Obama and get it over with? That is exactly what you are doing and I can`t believe you are so dumb that you don`t believe Romney is better than Obama is? And if you can’t talk like you want him to win and have the confidence that he will win then just give up and get the hell out of the way. If You truly believe that you are an idiot!!! Remember Ross Perot!!!
Romney wasn`t my first choice either but He is so much better than Obama that is isn’t even a contest. All I am saying is don't under estimate Romney, and give him your support. Or would you rather Michelle Obama telling us what we should eat for another four years? We are in the middle of the Great Obama Depression. Unemployment is staggeringly high. Gas prices have doubled under his watch. The Middle East is in flames thanks to Obama’s policies, and what we just saw in Lybia should be more than enough to get him out of the White House once and for all. Ans as Clint Eastwood said a at the Convention “When someone isn’t working out, you have to let them go.” The Middle East is going up in flames and Barack Obama does not have the time to meet Benjamin Netanyahu when he came to the UN few days ago. He has more important obligations like going on The Late Show with David Letterman, and on The View.. .
I don`t like what the GOP did but We have to stick together and go with what (who) we have! Obama and Biden, Hillary, Pelosi,and Reid are pathetic serial liars and are advocating the destruction of everything this country was built on.
They are horrible people and an embarrassment to this country
Looking ahead to 4 more years of blaming Bush, bowing down to the Arabs, spending your money if you have any left? Or how bout spending most of what you make on filling up the car just to have less income left so you can stay at home. Anybody ever herd of freedom? Or freedom of speech and freedom of choice? It may come to a surprise to most people but you have less of it now then at any time in your life. Name one thing you can do without a permit or license or Government Permission ? License to drive? license to hunt or fish? Social Security Number without that how or where would you be allowed to work ever think about that? People do not think because they let others do that for them and this is how you loose control over your decision making. New York now has a limit on soft drinks School Lunches are now controlled by the Government who is Michelle Obama in case you didn’t know it. When are People Going To Wake Up? We will not lose the election because of Barack Obama and the idiots in his administration . We will not lose the election because of the fact that we can not even unite around our own candidate. And if you can’t even do that, then get the hell out of the Republican Party and join the libertarians where you belong. And vote for Ron Paul the other nut job. Good Bye! Good Riddance!


FrogBurger said...

A lot of robots hanging out today.

Leftism is for group think and collectivist. Not Conservatism.

All of this despite the fact I said I'd vote for Romney, whom I actually like.

However, I'm not a robot and I have the right to mention the potentiality of him not being good tonight.

Really some of you need to go back to school or go get a dictionary and look at the definition of "IF."

Otherwise I don't think you should vote.

From The Archives of The Political Chic said...

FB, even you saying that potentiality he would NOT be good tonight is negative.
I believe that Mitt Romney can and will win the election only if we can come out in vast numbers to show our support for him and Paul Ryan by voting in big numbers. This election is like no other election in our time. No only are moral issues are at stake but the freedoms we all are now enjoying is at stake. Freedom of speech, and choice and the things we never at all questioned before line the freedom to eat and or drink what we want to.
If you don’t come out and vote for Mitt Romney, you might as well vote for Obama. At least Romney is a man of Faith his politics may not be where we would like to see him but at least it will take us back away from the abyss we are on, that is if we work to get him elected. Romney needs to pound Obama on the issues, on the economy, on foreign policy, on immigration, and Romney can win.

FrogBurger said...

FB, even you saying that potentiality he would NOT be good tonight is negative.

Don't have a right to say it? If you're not ok with freedom of speech, then don't be a Conservative. Be on the left.

And that still doesn't explain why I got belittled for saying I wouldn't vote for him.

You guys just can't read what I write.

You jumped on me like Ducky would.

It's pretty sad.

FrogBurger said...

Saying I want to avoid the potentiality of him not being good in the debate doesn't mean saying he can't be a good president.

Am I the only one being the non native English speaker here?

It doesn't seem like it.

FrogBurger said...

If you don’t come out and vote for Mitt Romney, you might as well vote for Obama.

What did I say above?

Go back to primary school for reading classes.

Darth Bacon said...

Pretty sad and lame answer to a good comment

FrogBurger said...

IT's a good comment outside the context of what I said.

Otherwise it's lack of reading skills or intellectual dishonesty.

But if you don't want to admit it, it's fine. You have the Constitutional right to be intellectually dishonest.

Jack Whyte said...

Most of us want to see Romney perform well in the debate; many of us worry that he'll screw it up. He has this ONE opportunity to make a good FIRST impression to the millions of people who are yet undecided.

Why are we worried? Because Romney has made some serious gaffs in the past --knowing full well the communist media are waiting to eat his lunch. So yeah, we are worried.

Time will tell ...

FrogBurger said...

Thanks Jack for making my point more eloquently.

Pris said...

I don't have any advice for Romney. No matter how well he does, the state run media, will try to tear him down.

There are enough pundits, Dems and Republicqns who think they know best. However Romney was good enough in the primary to win, and he's not stupid!

So I'm taking a page from Nancy Reagan who said "let Reagan be Reagan".

I say, let Romney be Romney, and Ryan be Ryan. That's good enough for me!

Mindy B. said...

I'm not really worried about Romney beating obama , but yes I am getting concerned, but we have to think positively, we have to be optimistic about this race and the debates, and not give up before it even starts. And ignore these freaken bias pollsters, we have to encourage all of our base to come out and beat these social leeches

EzzZee said...

The only landslide Romney will see is the one that buries him when Obama wins re-election.
It's a real pleasure for me to read all these tea-bagger bigots in full panic mode now. It's hilarious how desperate they're becoming.

FrogBurger said...

Keep smoking pot EzzZee

Veritas said...

Obama LIES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year...."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."
And these are just a FEW.... proposition - lie
He'll cut the deficit in half - lie
Unemployment won't go over 8%
Covering up the murders in Libya - lies
We can go on

Obama blames Bush for what he inherited..
This is what Obama inherited:
AAA credit rating, an unemployment rate of 5.7 percent. Also gas 1.89 a gallon! Facts!

FrogBurger said...

Enjoy the latest Obama's video

Can't believe he talks about violence in a Church.

Mustang said...

After watching these videos, only a complete moron is able to ignore the fact that Barack Hussein Obama is a racist. It is hard to tell if it is Obama speaking, or the scumbag Louis Farrakhan.

FrogBurger said...
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FrogBurger said...

Or maybe it's all that coke snorting that does that to you. Glad Michelle wants us to eat more vegetables when hubby's brain has been damaged by drugs.

Nobama said...

Liberals, or progressives like that Pig Bill Maher are idiots. Calling our best & bravest service man "gutless". is just about the lowest thing I've ever heard in my "Adult life"

God Bless our Troops.

Teebow said...

Chew on this!
The Obama Administration is actually advertising for people to accept food stamps. At present, a record 46 MILLION Americans are receiving food stamps. And the Administration earmarked 80% of its drought relief bill to subsidize food stamps. Michelle Obama may preach healthy eating, but her husband is diligently laboring to fatten the American public.
Relelect this guy and his Moocher? Are we really that stupid?

Hugo Chavez said : "If I were American, I'd vote for Obama."

Liberalmann said...

12 Misleading Things You’ll Probably Hear At Tonight’s Debate

Tonight’s debate brings the election into its home stretch, which means the candidates will be pulling out all their best lines (or zingers, as the case may be) to try to woo voters. Here are some common misleading lines the candidates have used on the campaign trail that they’re likely to use again tonight:

1. “There’s only one president that I know of in history that robbed Medicare, $716 billion to pay for a new risky program of his own that we call Obamacare.”[CBS, 8/15/12]

The reductions included in Obamacare eliminate current over-payments to insurance companies, limit fraud and waste, and slows the growth of the program. Ryan’s budget plan called for the same cuts, but directed the money toward deficit reduction and tax cuts for the rich.

2. “Obama’s made one of America’s largest investments ever in clean coal technology.” [Politico, 8/6/12]

There is no such thing as clean coal — it’s just Obama’s rhetoric to make the product sound better. In actuality, though, coal causes disease, emits mercury, contributes to climate change, wastes water, pollutes seafood, and destroys mountains.

3. “[Obama's] policies have not helped create jobs, they have depressed them” [RNC speech, 8/30/12]

Just recently, the country hit a net job gain for the last four years. Romney cherry picks the bad numbers, ignoring the fact that Obama entered office at the depths of the biggest loss of jobs the country has experienced post-World War Two:



4. “What I would like to do is to get a tax reduction for middle income families… Middle income people will probably see a little break, because there’ll be no tax on their savings.” [60 Minutes, 9/23/12]

During his stump speeches, Romney has pledged that he won’t raise taxes on middle class Americans. But the most recent analysis of his plan shows that taxes on the middle class would increase by more than $2,000 to achieve revenue neutrality.

5. “We’re not going to have high income people pay less of the tax burden than they pay today.” [Meet the Press, 9/9/12]

The Tax Policy Center determined that Romney’s plan would cause the following: “Americans making over $1 million would see an increase in after-tax income of 4.1 percent (an $87,000 tax cut), those making between $500,000 and $1 million would see an increase of 3.2 percent (a $17,000 tax cut), and those making between $200,000 and $500,000 would see an increase of 0.8 percent (a $1,800 tax cut).”

6. “The White House proposes sequestration, kind of a gun to your head opportunity which is that congress couldn’t get the job done properly and the president couldn’t lead them..” [ABC, 9/27/12]

Romney acts outraged about the $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts known as the “sequester,” but his running mate actually voted for the plan. In fact, Ryan peddled the plan to the Republican caucus. After he cast that vote for sequestration, Ryan rarely mentioned the military spending cuts he and Romney now rail against.

Liberalmann said...

7. “President Obama orders religious organizations to violate their conscience” [Deseret News, 1/31/12]

Religious institutions haven’t been forced to “violate their conscience” by paying for contraception. Houses of worship and other religious nonprofits that primarily employ and serve people of the same faith will be exempt from offering birth control.

8.”We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.” [Address to Congress, 2/24/09]

Housing policies have been a weak point of the Obama administration. Four years after the recession began, the housing market is still floundering. Obama’s program to help “responsible families” only assisted half of struggling homeowners.

9. “I have the impression that the whole regulatory attitude of the [Obama] administration is trying to stop oil and gas and coal.” [NPR, 8/23/2012]

Coal production is up 2.3 percent in Pennsylvania and 6.7 percent in West Virginia, and coal employment is up 10 percent under Obama. On the oil front, oil imports are down and, much to the chagrin of environmentalists, oil production on public lands has grown.

10. “[Obama] added almost as much debt as all the prior presidents combined.” [NYT, 6/19/12]

Not only is this claim not true, but much of the debt comes from tax cuts and military spending — two things that Romney has attacked Obama for not supporting. It’s counter intuitive, then, that Romney would blame the Democrats for the debt problem:

11. “Under Obama’s [welfare] plan, you wouldn’t have to work and wouldn’t have to train for a job.” [Romney Campaign Ad, 8/7/12]

No one, not the person who presided over the welfare to work requirement’s inception, believes Romney’s claim that Obama removed the welfare to work requirement. The government does not “just send you a check;” rather, Governors (largely in Republican states) can apply for waivers to change their work requirements on a state-by-state basis.

12. “When you increase the number of regulations at a rate three times that of his predecessor… you don’t add jobs.” [Hot Air, 7/17/12]

Regulation hasn’t slowed down hiring. If that were true, employers would be working existing employees at maximum possible hours, and they’re not. In fact, Obama approved 613 new rules during his first 33 months, 4.7 percent fewer than Bush did in the same timespan.

beamish said...

There is less than a snowball's chance in hell that Mitt Romney will convince me that he's to the right of Obama on any substantive issues. So, I've vastly lowered my expectations for Romney to looking for any sign that he himself is not going to vote for Obama.

FrogBurger said...

Libman, if you want to do real research, go find the actual sources like legislative acts. Copying Fox News like copying mainstream media is not a proof of certitude.

beamish said...

"pretend for a moment that Romney’s chief of staff just called you on the phone and asked you to offer advice on what Romney should say about the Economy. What would your advice be?"

Romney should state in no uncertain terms that America is heading for a massive economic crisis because Obama took his advice on socializing health care.

FreeThinke said...

Romney needs to grow a pair,
And clear the air by breathing fire.

If he stays polite and kind,
We'll find he's not our heart's desire.

If tonight is one big snore,
A crashing bore too diplomatic

Romney we will just ignore,
act sore, stay home, and thus ensure

That Barry's reelection will be neatly automatic.


~ FreeThinke

FrogBurger said...

Romney should state in no uncertain terms that America is heading for a massive economic crisis because Obama took his advice on socializing health care.

Funny but a bit true :(

France's healthcare system is massively in the red and that takes a toll on the economy.

I personally think it'll take 30 years to fix the fiscal mess meaning it'll take between 5 and 10 presidents dedicated to fix it. Which means it's impossible because they work for short term fixes.

I think I'll drink beer tonight.

Jack Whyte said...

So far, the Obama's have spent $1.4 billion on their private comforts, which I assume includes their teenage daughter’s flight (with all her friends) to exotic vacation sites. Today is the Obama's 20th wedding anniversary. Question: Can the American taxpayer afford their anniversary party?

beamish said...

Romney should state in no uncertain terms that America is heading for a massive economic crisis because Obama took his advice on socializing health care.

Funny but a bit true :(

At this point I think it's absurd to believe Mitt Romney himself is not going to vote for Obama.

Kid said...

- obamacare and unknown tax liability are keeping business from hiring. CEO's openly say this.
- high gas prices and higher health care premiums and higher everything else because of higher energy which everything uses is pounding the middle class. It is a tax, even on the poor who have to buy these things to survive.

Then I'd say obama is a racist, anti-American imbecile socialist pig and invite him to a dual. Single shot pistols, 50 feet, no bicycle helmets.

beamish said...

Romney should state in no uncertain terms that America is heading for a massive economic crisis because Obama took his advice on socializing health care.

Funny but a bit true :(

At this point I think it's absurd to believe Mitt Romney himself is not going to vote for Obama.

Kid said...

So Beamie,
When obama talks about murdered American Ambassadors, who he and his band of incompetent thieving clowns failed to protect as "Bumps In The Road"...
When obama refuses to meet with the leaders of traditional allies, those being Freedom loving countries whch is America's multi-hundred year core mantra, but meets with the leader of a group who's stated goal is to kill us...
When obama puts the hurt on the middle class: Gas Prices, healthcare premiums, Everything else(cost of energy affects everything) then blabbers about how he's helping the middle class...
When he steals 5 trillion and doles it out to the unions...
When he and holder have set race relations back to the 1960's....

(just page 1 of 1000 pages)

how exactly do you defend this POS and his actions over ANYONE ? What exactly is Romney going to do to surpass that ?

C'mon. Spit it out boy! (Notice my lack of respect for the insane)

You got some mental problems and you should consider seeing a doctor.

Mustang said...

Romney has to speak to voters in the swing states; he has to address their concerns.

Romney has to enlighten voters about his off-shore accounts; why is it okay for Bill Clinton and not Mitt Romney?

Romney has to explain that 47% remark, which I'm sure Obama will bring up.

Romney has to specifically say how he plans to put Americans back to work. Vague ideas won't work.

Romney has to address the ruinous Obama health care scam.

But I like Kid's idea about a duel without bicycle helmets, but only after Romney get's Obama to sign his pardon.

Impertinent said...

@Kid

"and invite him to a dual."


And facing 24,000,000 unemployed Americans. Followed by 20,000,000 illegals and their emergency room drops.

FrogBurger said...

Mustang should work for Romney!

Anonymous said...

9:20 PM

Romney has Obama on the run ...

Anonymous said...

9:26 PM

Romney goes for the throat ...

Anonymous said...

9:28 PM

Obama blames Bush ...

Always On Watch said...

I'm watching the debate live -- even if I have to use toothpicks to prop up my eyelids.

Obama cannot shut up and adhere to the time limits. Sheesh.

Anonymous said...

9:35 PM

Jim Lehrer helps Obama focus ...

Anonymous said...

9:36 PM

Obama proves he's an idiot. Federal government does not exist to buy text books for Nevada schools.

Anonymous said...

9:38 PM

Romney palm slaps the president, who doesn't know what he's talking about.

LOL

Z said...

can someone tell me why LEHRER is giving Obama prompts?

I'm STUNNED HERE... "Mr President, you mean if you balance the budget through cuts..." And then Obama runs with it.

Lehrer's done this TWICE with Obama, or 3 times...none with ROmney.

ARE WE NUTS to put up with this STUFF?

Anonymous said...

WE don't have a choice ...

Kid said...

Z, Propaganda machine serving the affirmative action president. What else is new Mademoiselle...


Anonymous said...

9:44 PM

Romney demonstrates that he understands the health care system, Obama demonstrates that he is full of crap.

Anonymous said...

9:46 PM

Obama stutters into the AARP propaganda ploy.

Waiting for Romney to pounce.

Anonymous said...

9:49 PM

Obama keeps referring to studies that no one has ever heard of ...

Always On Watch said...

Z,
Lehrer's own bias is clearly showing!

I didn't look at the clock, but at one point I saw a lot of glaring anger in Obama's eyes. Does he know that he's been trounced? Maybe.

Anonymous said...

9:52 PM

Romney demonstrates how Obama's incompetence has stalled economic recovery.

FreeThinke said...

AOW is absolutely correct. Obama cannot shut his mouth, AND Lehrer interrupts ONLY Governor Romney, who has had to FIGHT to get a word in edgewise.

Lehrer's hostility towards Governor Romney is palpable.

I will give Obama THIS:

He is one of the smoothest, most polished, persistent, unflappable LIARS in the business.

But that has always been the stock-in-trade of Democrats, hasn't it? Born snake oil salesmen every one of them.

And we MUST admit that not having his precious teleprompter does NOTHING to DETER his capacity to emit verbal diarrhea by the jereboam.

~ FreeThinke

Anonymous said...

It is likely Obama is living on an alternative planet Earth.

I have never once heard anyone complain about not having health insurance --other than illegal aliens who aren't entitled to it to start with.

Jack Whyte said...

Au contraire

I see nothing smooth, polished, or unflappable about Obama. He is thin skinned and he has bristled several times during the debate.

I do agree that he is an unmitigated liar, however.

Anonymous said...

10:08 PM

Obama refuses to look at Romney ... you can tell he is Pissed Off

Go Romney!

Anonymous said...

10:15 - 10:21 PM

Obama implements the filibuster

Impertinent said...

I dunno folks...I think the forked tongue, lying BS artist POS...wins.

I mean OBullshit...so that the demrats aren't confused,

Always On Watch said...

Obama looks as if hes having trouble staying awake? At least, that's how I'm reading his face.

Anybody else noticing this?

Anonymous said...

10:26 PM

Obama is lying his ass off ... He has NEVER asked the GOP for input.

In fact, he went out of his way to embarrass Paul Ryan ....

Effing communist POS

Always On Watch said...

WHAT???

Obama just brought up OBL.

Good grief! BHO just said "Between me and the Republicans"!

Impertinent said...

"If this were white audience the MSM would be calling them the Klan!.."

Klan hell...the Bantus and the Zulus are in control now and have been since the NBPP, Al Charlatan, Jesse, Louie, Jeremiah, NAACP, Ths CBC and Tingles have the stage.

God forbid that we question the tribal chieftain....God forbid.

Mustang said...

What???

No way did Obama win this debate.

Impertinent said...

And from my seat...I think Mitt stumbled way too much against the Jive ass, rousing community organizer.

Who "won".....you know...Mr.Chooming, shuck and Jive did.

The Marxist in Chief. Barry Sotero...the guy who has used 2 SSN's. The Guy who has Muslim on his Indonesian school records.

The guy who embraced a domestic terrorist and his family...Bill And Bernadette, murdering Ayers.

The guy who nobody remembers at Occidental.

The guy who got laid by composite bodies.

The guy who won't release his medical, school or class records.

Robert Sinclair said...

Romney clearly excelled in this debate. Obama's smirking won't help him out.

But ... will this push the undecided into the Romney Camp? No, I think we have to go through three more debates, including the VP debates.

@ Imp ... how about some enthusiasm?

Sam Huntington said...

Twitter indications are that Romney walked away with a clear win.

beamish said...
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beamish said...

Kid,

how exactly do you defend this POS and his actions over ANYONE ?

I don't defend Obama. I just fail to see the point of electing a candidate well to his left politically to replace him. Perhaps you advocates of gay marriage, teen abortion, and government union jobs for illegal immigrants can explain it to this conservative.

Z said...

I thought Romney did even better than I'd hoped.

I got this email from a friend in Indiana: (Rita's town, as a matter of fact)

"My stepson who is 35 and a pretty smart guy but not a close follower of politics, knowing that I follow it very closely, just asked me how I thought Romney did because in his opinion, Romney mopped the floor with Obama.

Excellent!!"

I think that's excellent too...says a LOT.

I thought Romney was very earnest and cleaned Obama's clock with facts, which my friend Rich Galen says in his Mullings.com report here:

http://www.mullings.com/

Rich is quite even handed, though he's definitely a Conservative, so I think his analysis is very important.

Z said...

Sam...thanks for that info! that is really good news.

Let's all remember that there are states voting NOW (which I think says awful things about our voting programs AND this country, but I won't go there right now)........and so this election could sway those who're sending in their absentee ballots tomorrow. Let's hope and pray they get counted.

I'm so glad and grateful so many of you came by to weigh in.
This is a good night...
we MUST get Obama OUT. ..and this IS our only realistic chance.

beamish said...

Man, I've got to remember I'm posting on a leftist blog before I get all snarky. The blog administrator hates it when conservatives post here.

Maybe one of you people the blog administrator is afraid of being coerced into thinking can explain Romney's plan to create a free market from more regulations.

Kid said...

Beam, you didn't even come close to answering the question. And you lied. You do support obama, you have done so in many comments calling him conservative. Defend obama? You Support obama. obama Hates the constitution and has no use for it. The very definition of conservative is For the Constitution.

Try again. Or not. You're off the deep end for sure.

Z said...

beamish, yes, please remember.
Thanks!

Kid said...

Beam, lemme help you focus here.

I want you to defend those actions by obama that I drew your attention to in my first comment to you. K?
Explain why they paint obama as Pro-America and a conservative as you like to call the sucker.

beamish said...

Beam, you didn't even come close to answering the question. And you lied. You do support obama, you have done so in many comments calling him conservative.

I don't call Obama a "conservative." I simply fine tooth comb the left-wing and find him to be much closer to the right than Romney.

Defend obama? You Support obama. obama Hates the constitution and has no use for it. The very definition of conservative is For the Constitution.

I don't support Obama. I just see no point in damaging the Constitution further by electing someone so far to Obama's left he needs binoculars to see him.

Nor do I see much point in joining your flag-high march over the side of the cliff for a candidate with Romney's record just because you've worked yourself up into a frenzy calling him a "conservative."

Dude, Romney just said "free markets are created by regulations." That level of fucktardedness makes me wonder if he opens his mouth to wipe his bum.

Z said...

Rachel Maddow reported the results of msnbc's poll of 523 undecided voters who said the debate was won by:

Romney 46%

Obama 22%

Tie 32%



Z said...

Save some of your comments for tomorrow!! We'll have a great conversation thanks to some really good questions Mustang's come up with.


Just remember; Romney is our only chance right now, no matter WHAT......OBAMA HAS TO GO!

Kid said...

Beam, you still haven't answered the question.

- But Ok, tell me what obama has done that makes him appear to be on the the right.

- Explain how and why you think Romney is going to damage the constitution.

- I never called Romney a conservative. Show me.

- Dude, obama recently said that American Officials murdered by islamic are nothing more than bumps in the road. Can you compare that to some comment about free markets and regulations. If that's what he said. I didn't watch. Free markets are generally deregulated.

Tell me what's worse in the world of conservatism; having some additional regulations (I don't believe it will happen) or having someone putting racist buffoons with no experience(kagan) and horrible track records(sotomayer with the 65% overturn rate) on the supreme court.

We don't know what Romney will do regards the military, but could he do possibly worse than denying military people their voting rights while they out in some hellhole for America.
Or how the hihgest numbers of military are being slaughtered in A-stan by a taliban that obama emboldened by specifying and exit date while obama mentions or cares about it Not.

Seriously, tell me about how obama does anything that would resemble someone on the right.

Average American said...

Jesus Christ people!!! Save all that argueing bullshit for the leftards that visit occassionally! We're all on the same side, let's try to act like it! Let's try behaving like adults!

As it turns out, there was no need to worry. Mitt hit a triple! Even the dems (most of them) think so. Please come together and FIGHT this cancer that has invaded our country. Don't let what happened in 2008 happen again. McCain wasn't conservative enough so we chose NOMObama instead??!! What a frigging disaster that turned out to be!

Sorry for the language Z.

JonBerg said...

Z,

So good, your last comment.

If I may: BROVO ZULU! You and Mustang help to make my blogging apprecation day complete.

Keep up the good work!

Rita said...

It's 12:30 am here and I have to work tomorrow. But this debate has me finally pumped. I was not a Romney fan, but after his performance tonight I think I have under estimated him. I would still have preferred Mike Pence or Mitch Daniels but I think I've been a little too hard in my assessment on Romney.

I never watch MSNBC but their post coverage (I was being sent texts from my brother CnC ) made me switch over to watch them.

The words I heard coming from Schultz, Matthews and Maddow were shocking. And entertaining.

Rita said...

And who's your buddy that lives near me?

Ducky's here said...

I watched the Red Sox and this pathetic season and then watched Leverage, got to have my Parker fix.

FrogBurger said...

You want to have a blast? Watch Chris MAtthews go crazy. It's delicious :)

Anonymous said...

You might find this site interesting.

http://www.issues2000.org/2012.htm

It maps political figures on a social and economic issues to define them as conservative / liberal / libertarian / populist.

It shows Romney well to the right of Obama (no surprise); however, Beamish may feel vindicated that Obama is closer to the libertarian quadrant while Romney tends toward populist. Romney loses libertarian points for such positions as favoring school prayer, favoring the death penalty, opposing abortion, and favoring enforcement of drug laws.

If we consider economic issues only, Romney stands to the right--and to the libertarian side-- of Obama (or in some cases less to the left) for views on privatizing social security, government spending on health care, free trade, and energy sources.

--big fat tio mike

JonBerg said...

"I watched the Red Sox and this pathetic season and then watched Leverage, got to have my Parker fix."

Who cares?

JonBerg said...

"I watched the Red Sox and this pathetic season and then watched Leverage, got to have my Parker fix."

Who cares?

Z said...

JonBerg...thanks, from Mustang and me...we appreciate that!

tiomike...will watch tomorrow...
good comments.

FB, it IS delicious, isn't it :-)

beamish said...

But Ok, tell me what obama has done that makes him appear to be on the right.

I think the more relevant question would be "is Romney going to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act and end gay marriage in Massachussetts?"

Not that we want to explore Mitt's undeniable conservative credentials. (bwhahaha)

Again, let me reiterate that I don't believe Obama is on the right, but rather that he's not as left-wing as Romney.

Anonymous said...

except that anything some of us think is LEFT by Romney are farther LEFT with Obama...so, that's kind of silly, beamish.
as usual

z

FreeThinke said...

Apparently, "the pundits" thought Governor's Romney's performance was far superior to President Obama's last night. Obama has been judged "uncomfortable," "lackluster," "grumpy," "off his game," and "unimpressive" by several commentators from the left.

Frankly, I didn't see that. The president seemed his usual cool, unflappable, smoothly prevaricating, often charmingly boyish –– even gracious –– old self –– a much more attractive image than the fervid "coon shoutin' southern preacher" instilling fear and loathing into the hearts of his listeners we've seen on the stump these past few weeks.

Governor Romney was poised, always polite, on top of his material, but nowhere near as incisive, challenging and condemnatory as I believe he could have been and should have been. I give him full marks for repeatedly denying the president's repeated accusation that the governor plans to initiate a five-billion dollar tax cut "for the rich."

The sweet, benign, faintly amused look on the governor's face throughout the evening was frankly attractive and reassuring, but then so was the president's well-known infectious grin and confident body language when the two exchanged greetings initially, and at the end of the performance.

I found it interesting –– and frankly encouraging –– that Governor Romney's repeated assertion that President Obama intends to take SEVEN-HUNDRED-SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLARS out of MEDICARE was not denied by the president.

Over all, except for the irksome aura of self-importance projected by querulous, old Jim Lehrer, whose obvious bias in favor of the president manifested itself in the way he kept trying to interrupt and balk Governor Romney's responses while allowing the president to emit verbal diarrhea in copious abundance, it was a rather too even-tempered, lackluster affair for my taste. Nether candidate made any "gaffes," but neither did either one make such a strong case for himself that his victory should be assured on the strength of last night's performance.

VERDICT: Better than expected, but still disappointing.

~ FreeThinke

Kid said...

Beam, Why do you keep harping on Romney to avoid answering the question?

Plus who cares about gay marriage when obama is destroying the country form within and without. he's pro-communism -(he must wait til after the election to make an unknown Deal with Russia.) Does that not concern you?

he is a muslim/islamic activist. Please..
he is racist (Spent all his time in hahvard protesting with black power people- please) and he and the other affirmative action pinhead - holder - have set race relations back to the 1960's

anti-American - what's more American than free speech? obama doesn't care for it. he verbally goes after rush, hannity, FIx, the comedian who is now dead from a 'peanut allergic reaction'

There is NOTHING right or conservative about obama, therefore he cannot be more right than ANYONE. he is the most left politician in American history.

he has never worked an honest day in his life which is why he is constantly working for losers and imbeciles like himself.

to think a "more relevant question" has to do with mitt romney and gay marriage is Certifiably Insane.

Wouldn't you agree ?
Why can you not make Your Case, when I can so easily make mine?
Why do you avoid answering simple questions and instead throw these adolescent quips out about some romney related Minutia when our country is being flushed by an imbecile who has never worked a day in his life and who's ignorance is only exceeded by his arrogance?

An imbecile dictator who openly states he has no use for Congress. Not even the democrat imbeciles running the Senate? And Routinely forces his will on America as much as chaves does in his country.

Reasonable questions, no?


Are they at least paying you Beam?

If this is all you've got, I feel sorry for you that you've allowed yourself to get to this stage.

Why even respond if this is all you got?

Z said...

Kid, sad but true.

GAY MARRIAGE? The country's falling apart and we should worry about GAY MARRIAGE?
Let's save our ECONOMY and our LIVES and then worry about the other stuff.

good one, Kid.

beamish said...

Beam, Why do you keep harping on Romney to avoid answering the question?

Because conservatives and libertarians are the readymade scapegoats for when Obama trounces him next month.

Because you're missing the point.

Four years, eight years of Obama, this damage can be undone. What are you going to do about the 69+ million people who thought it was a good idea to elect a staple gun loading nitwit President in the first place? That damage existed before Obama.

What are you going to do to promote conservative views in our country? Gay marriage? Judicially usurping parental rights so 13 year old girls can get abortions? Government union jobs for illegal immigrants? These are your "conservative" values? They sure as @#$@ ain't mine.

Plus who cares about gay marriage when obama is destroying the country form within and without. he's pro-communism -(he must wait til after the election to make an unknown Deal with Russia.) Does that not concern you?

Words fail me in expressing just how utterly unconcerned I am with your buffoonish pseudo-eschatological ramifications of the "communist" Obama making deals, secret or otherwise, with a post-communist has been nation with a GDP almost big enough to compare with our failed state of California.

[continued]


beamish said...

he is a muslim/islamic activist. Please..

Which means what?

he is racist (Spent all his time in hahvard protesting with black power people- please) and he and the other affirmative action pinhead - holder - have set race relations back to the 1960's

Really? Where's the fire hoses? Anyone installing whites only drinking fountains? Where are the Democrat governors blocking access to schools?

anti-American - what's more American than free speech? obama doesn't care for it. he verbally goes after rush, hannity, FIx, the comedian who is now dead from a 'peanut allergic reaction'

And they take to the airwaves much more frequently to go after Obama, without incident, and make money at it. Seriously, dude, you're hyperventilating.

he has never worked an honest day in his life which is why he is constantly working for losers and imbeciles like himself.

And Mitt Romney has worked a honest day in his life? Was that when he was legalizing gay marriage, or raising the abortion rate among pre-teens?

[continued]

beamish said...

to think a "more relevant question" has to do with mitt romney and gay marriage is Certifiably Insane.

Is it? The Defense of Marriage Act is the law of the land, one law among many Obama has decided to ignore. Will Romney make a stand for the rule of law or not?

Wouldn't you agree ?

Obviously not.

Why can you not make Your Case, when I can so easily make mine?

You made a case? Where?

Why do you avoid answering simple questions and instead throw these adolescent quips out about some romney related Minutia when our country is being flushed by an imbecile who has never worked a day in his life and who's ignorance is only exceeded by his arrogance?

I guess I'm not cut out for pretending namecalling and badgering insults can be mistaken for intellect.

An imbecile dictator who openly states he has no use for Congress. Not even the democrat imbeciles running the Senate? And Routinely forces his will on America as much as chaves does in his country.

Which has only increased since the far-left Tea Party "movement" was elected to "stop" him. What's so wrong with pursuing a right-wing antidote to leftism?

Reasonable questions, no?

To none of which Romney is the answer.





Kid said...

Beamie,

You're Circle Jerking now. Look it up if you don't know what it means.

I'm not gonna play.

Additionally, you've taken your replies to a level of irrationality that no rational person can respond to.

See ya next time.

beamish said...

We'd have a more honest discussion, Kid, if only you'd admit that you're a blithering idiot.



beamish said...

To wit:

"Obama is anti-free speech because he [using his free speech] verbally goes after people with talk shows [using their free speech] that verbally go after him."

Talk about blindfolding yourself with a rectal cavity.





Kid said...

Beam, you just go ahead and think that if it makes you feel better. Not a prob.

beamish said...

Actually win or lose (probably lose), I'll feel better knowing I didn't come to unseat a left-wing President with a pro-abortion, gay right activist defender of illegal immigration, and look like a damned fool jackass calling him a "conservative" (or let it pass unremarked that he's being called a "conservative") to people who know better.

At the end of the day, when Romney is giving his concession speech and you're crying in your Ramen noodle soup that he lost the most winnable election in American history, I hope you'll be willing to defend gay marriage, abortion, illegal immigration, and socialized medicine to the conservatives and libertarians laughing their asses off at you.

Kid said...

Beam, no one else is running. Stop acting like a 4 yr old.

beamish said...

4 year old? Maybe it's easy for old men like you to say that because you're deathly afraid of ever having to pay anything on your freeloader generation's $16 Trillion national debt.

Why be conservative when Uncle Sam's going to rob some future "rich" people to pay for your sloth and uselessness?

Why even weigh in on politics at all?

When you throw away your principles, your principles are in the trash.

A vote for Romney is a vote for more of Obama's policies with additional emphasis on legalizing gay marriage, federally funding abortion, increased government interference in YOUR HOME, and climate change cap-and-trade scams.

I'll take amateur leftist over professional leftist all day long.

Kid said...

Beam, Here it is.

You come here acting just like a troll, insulting everyone on the site with your blathering spittle-mouthed that we're all leftists.

Then you complain about my light jabs at you. That makes you a 4 yr old.

The election has two candidates:
- You can vote for obama
- you can vote against obama
- you can refrain from voting which is a vote for obama
- you can vote for Ron Paul whcih is a vote for obama
- you can stomp your feet and hold your breath and say no one is a good enough conservative candidate - which is a vote for obama.

- Sure as hell sounds to me like you want to vote for obama.

So, vote for obama, post your proud vote for obama with pride. I don't care. It's a free country. If you like the sucker vote for him.

Which leave all your blathering posts that find some way to insult everyone here. What is the purpose of those?
We don't care dude. We know 47% of the country would vote for an imbecilic robot and in fact they did in 2008.

There is nothing to 'learn' here.

Get a grip man !

Be a loser with Pride !!!




Kid said...

Beam, since I'm bored.

- Trial lawyers are the enemy of health care costs in America and not a single politician has brought that up. Ever.
I know it to be true. That makes me a super duper libertarian-neocon incredible person.
- everyone (and you just did) talks about social security recipients and medicare recipients (I'm Neither) like they are sucking the country dry.

1. Many of the SS recipients paid in the to system all their working lives. Some did not, ditto medicare. How is that an Entitlement?
How did we go from "Personal Retirement Accounts" as SS was introduced to "Entitlement" when people only paid more into the system since it was initiated?

LBJ of course. Stole the SS money to start welfare, so in his words "He'd have those N------- voting for democrats for the next 50 years"

I'm not saying republicans are angels, but you have the gaul to compare repubs to democrats? Dude only 3 of the suckers were needed to destroy America. LBJ and the moron Carter. It was done after that. clinton was icing for them and obama is doing nothing but turning the knives in the wounds.

2. Compare that to the Public Union workers who suck tax money like the million gallon per minute pumps sent to empty out lower New Orleans.

They suck the money while they're working and far too many of them are hired for any given position and location (A local township here recently let go 90 "firefighters", keeping 13 and calling it good. Too many people on the role perhaps?
Ditto Lakota School district. Let go 100 teachers and NINETY (90) "administrators" and called it good.
Extrapolate that across the country.

Anyway, these people by and large retire at 50, or are put on light duty (eating donuts) and go on a 35 year vacation on Your Dime and THEY DON'T PAY *ANYTHING* INTO THE SYSTEM. They don't pay into their bennies, and they don't pay into their pensions. I think they're a much bigger problem.

But yea, I think a little SS and medicare reform is called for too. It was never meant to be a retirement package.

I think you should reconsider social security, medicare, VA, whatever, compared to the public union massive black hole.

Some thoughts for ya.

beamish said...

You come here acting just like a troll, insulting everyone on the site with your blathering spittle-mouthed that we're all leftists.

Actually "leftist" is one of the kinder, gentler terms I reserve for people who want to make the American founding father of gay marriage their President. Regardless, I wouldn't be absurd and call them or their far left candidate "conservative."

The election has two candidates:
- You can vote for obama
- you can vote against obama
- you can refrain from voting which is a vote for obama
- you can vote for Ron Paul whcih is a vote for obama
- you can stomp your feet and hold your breath and say no one is a good enough conservative candidate - which is a vote for obama.

- Sure as hell sounds to me like you want to vote for obama.


I don't want to vote for Obama, but as far left as he is, at least he's not as far left as Romney. I'll be voting for Gary Johnson. I don't think Gary Johnson wil be giving his votes to anyone but himself.

Your preferred leftist candidate Romney is up in the polls currently, especially among independents. He doesn't need my vote, or any other conservative's, for that matter.



Kid said...

Beam "I don't want to vote for Obama, but as far left as he is, at least he's not as far left as Romney. I'll be voting for Gary Johnson. I don't think Gary Johnson wil be giving his votes to anyone but himself."

That's a vote for obama. Last word to you.

beamish said...

No, it's a vote for Gary Johnson, and will be recorded as such.

You and your fellow far left gay agenda activists will just have to find another scapegoat for why Romney loses in November.

JonBerg said...

Hey beamish,

Your focus on "Gay" is starting to make me wonder about you. Are you stable? Are you in need of help?

beamish said...

Why would I need help? I'm not the one running around claiming a gay right activist global warming cap-and-trade environmentalist whacko is the best the Republican Party can put up against Obama and that he's a "conservative."

beamish said...

I'd prefer a little honesty. Something like, "Yes, we know Romney wants your child to earn an anal sex merit badge in Boy Scouts, but at least he's not Obama."

beamish said...

Now a question for you of the bike-and-leather fetish. Why do you support Romney? Is it because you want to marry some other biker fag? You want to see more coal plants closed in the name of global warming? You don't think there are enough ilegal immigrants in tenured government union teaching jobs?

beamish said...

You do know how to tell the difference between yourself and a conservative, right?

Mitt Romney won't spend two million dollars a day smearing you.