At geeeeZ, we support Israel. This video is the single best video on this subject I have seen. We encourage you to watch it and SEND IT ON, particularly to Jewish Democrats, many of whom are changing their support from Obama to "anybody but Obama."
Genesis 12:3 "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
Is this WHY Christians protect Israel? Perhaps, which is why I used this video today for my Sunday Faith Blog. We know how God feels about Israel and we know Scripture warns those who curse her, those who do not help her. But, many of us also feel Israel is important as a country which shares our values in that region and has a commitment to being an ally to us and, for those reasons, why change our policy toward Israel? '
Please send this to Jewish friends..........they need to wake up. But ALL Americans should be alerted to what's happening to our relationship with Israel, Jewish or not. It can affect their votes.........it should.
God bless Israel. And God bless you today and always.
Z
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I think we should all realize that there will never be peace in the Middle East. That situation will never be solved, it can only be managed.
I can only respond by asking a question or two:
What is the scriptural meaning of "Israel?"
When has it ever been wise to poke a stick into a hornets' nest, make camp in the midst of a den of vipers?
However sad and unfortunate it may be SilverFiddle's observation is right.
Oil and Water will never mix.
~ FreeThinke
Jimmy Carter gave us the stink hole that’s Iran. The nappy-headed, big eared, little nerd, Obimbo, wanted Israel to revert back to the borders of 1967.
Netanyahu has said, “Israel is what is right about the Middle East.” Israel is free. Israel is a Democracy. And, Israel is surrounded by tyrants and oppressive governments -- governments and people that can’t even get along with themselves.
Israel is also why America can go to bed and sleep peacefully at night. It’s Israel that’s OUR protector. Israel stands as a thorn in the side of the tyrants and oppressive governments that would chop her head off. Until these tyrants and oppressive governments can annihilate Israel, they know they can’t be perceived, by the rest of the world, as the really “bad boys on the block” when they can’t even bring down one tiny nation that they’ve been fighting for a couple of thousand of years.
It’s pretty telling that, just like in 1967, Israel isn’t asking for our war machines. Netanyahu has said in his speech that he doesn’t need that. Israel can protect itself. All that the Israelis ask for is that America stand strong with them. THEY are our strongest ally.
We need to choose our friends wisely. America SHOULD ALWAYS support Israel.
Remember, Cuba voted in Castro, and Germany voted in Hitler. If America votes in Obama for the second time, we deserve a dictator.
Self-righteousness and conceit remain unattractive, even if, apparently, justified by "the facts."
I'm with you on this one and I am a supporter of Israel also. The Obama regime has given American Jewish patriots plenty of material to use It is just a question now of are these people going to wake up and smell the facts.
Very good post Z, Anyone who thinks that obama is not hostile to Israel has been asleep for the last four years, and it's high time that they woke up.
And I don't believe Biden for one second when he said what he did about Obama's meeting and talking with Benjamin Netanyahu. We hear differently from Israel about this.
"It’s pretty telling that, just like in 1967, Israel isn’t asking for our war machines. Netanyahu has said in his speech that he doesn’t need that. Israel can protect itself."
I agree, Israel can protect itself. So now we can discontinue military aid.
How many times has President Obama shown his lack of sympathy and even outright hostility toward Israel!! . Not long ago he was caught on an open microphone agreeing with the French President slurring of the Israeli prime minister. And then there was his public snubbing of the Israeli leader’s request to discuss Iran during a recent U.S. visit and met with celebrities and talk shows instead.
I don’t trust Obama, or anything he says, or sends his lying Vice President in to lie for him.
And I still want to know what Obama plans to do about this act of war on our Embassy in Libya?
Let me see if I understand this revelation by CI … we should discontinue military aid to Israel, but continue providing it to nations that support Shari'a law, are led by the Muslim Brotherhood, and who contrive to murder our diplomatic personnel.
Good call …
@Jack - Sorry, did I say somewhere that I support foreign aid to nations that uphold Shari'a law? I can't seem to place that quote. You surely wouldn't be compelled to project your assumptions on to me in lieu of an actual rebuttal would you?
@CI
There is one nation in the Middle East established on democratic principles. Everyone else demands adherence to the hadith. Thus, discontinuing aid to Israel is a de facto devotion to everyone else. Makes me wonder if you work for the Clinton State Department.
FT:
As for who is Israel?
There is a belief that the new testament church replaces historical Israel. Is that what you refer to?
Of course it is....either with Israel or against it eh? But didn't Bibi state that he didn't need our military aid? Is Marine4ever lying?
I'm pretty consistent; I don't support enabling the corrupt regimes in Kabul and Baghdad either....both of which uphold Shari's in their Constitutions. Do you?
"It's time to admit that the idea of a chosen people is just a device that primitive tribes used to give themselves a leg up in the day when the snake could talk."
@Marine4ever (figures) -- The nappy-headed, big eared, little nerd ...
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Allen West?
@ Ducky -- I want to be there when you try to argue the point with God about His 'chosen people.' That should be REALLY interesting.
Ducky, stop acting like such an ass. Or aren't you acting?
Everyone's standing up better for Israel than I could, so I'll just thank you for the comments and say one thing:
There are two members of this blog who can delete Liberalmann when I'm away; please delete EVERYTHING as soon as you can get around to it. Today he finally crossed the line.
I hope he calls it censorship: That would even say more about his lack of character.
THanks, Team.
B...you'll have to root for Obama somewhere else; I didn't build this blog for that.
thanks!
As someone seemingly obsessed with convincing someone that you're a Christian, don't you think that effort would be better served if your were not a part of Mitt Romney's smear machine upon conservatives?
Bemeash...First, no Christian is obsessed with convincing anybody he's a Christian because it matters not what others think.
And, any Christian who doesn't try to stop a guy who voted four times for live birth killings isn't doing his/her job!
thanks. I hope you're well...am getting worried about you.
I could never understand why so many Jewish Americans would vote for Democrats/Liberals, knowing how they feel about Israel.
I do think some have changed their position, but I have not seen any polls on this.
Debbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xA1DbBAcOQ
Debbie, here's something...a Zionist/Ahmedinejad happy-fest video... There's another one recorded last year you wouldn't believe..
Many Orthodox Jews are shooting themselves in the foot..BIG TIME. As are we 'trust us', says Ahmedinejad.."Sure, " says the liberal dope.
I WISH they'd show these videos in synagogues across America....maybe THEN Jews would wake up.??
Arlen Specter has died.......
May he rest in peace
I am one of those “disaffected Democrats” who will be voting AGAINST Obama – though not against the Democrats as a whole…In the end, the point is this: Obama and the clique he has brought into power with him are destroying the Democratic Party, itself, rendering it incapable of providing capable, responsible, and socially progressive leadership for the nation and the world. And for this reason, if for no other, it is imperative that socially-conscious, progressively-minded, pro-Israel, Democrats – Jewish and non-Jewish alike – “bite the bullet” and vote to free the Democratic Party from people like Barack Obama before it is too late, for the Party and for the Nation.
I feel compelled to “put my two cents in”, so to speak, because I am one of those “disaffected Democrats” who will be voting AGAINST Obama in November – though not against the Democrats as a whole – and I think I can offer a perspective on these matters which may succeed in prying loose a sufficient number of Democratic voters (especially Jewish Democrats) to make a difference in a swing state like Florida. To that end, I offer a Democratic case against Obama.
I have NEVER voted Republican in my life, nor to the best of my knowledge has any member of my family. I, naively (and with some misgivings), voted for Obama the first time around in the hope that he would live up to the best traditions of the Democratic Party and rightly serve its core constituencies and the nation. He has not done so. But I will NOT make thae same mistake a second time.
Democrats wanted Obama to protect the public-interest against the abuses of “predatory capitalism” on Wall Street – the criminal manipulations that cost innocent investors billions and nearly wrecked our economy. He has failed to do so. In fact, not only has he not prosecuted the economic criminals that brought us to ruin, he has brought their “point-men” and “associates” into the highest echelons of his administration, thereby guaranteeing their future immunity.
Obama promised us effective health-care reform and then abdicated his responsibility to lead that effort in a comprehensive and efficient manner, leaving the legislative process to a melange of Congressional committees and staff that patched together a legislative concoction that makes Rube Goldberg look like an efficiency expert! As a result, he has produced health-care “reform” that may prove to be no reform at all, and has so confused the public as to its efficacy and cost as to allow a devastating counter-attack by his opponents which may, ultimately, gut the system.
Like every other group in America, American Jews want an economy that is growing and creating jobs for all who seek them. Given his background and
experience, Governor Romney will succeed in turning around the U.S. economy where Barack Obama has failed.
From a Democratic point of view this is not leadership. It represents a degree of dilettantism and political incompetence of which the great reformers and political leaders of the past would never have been guilty. It’s like a boxer who is so over-confident and enamored of himself that he thinks all he needs to do is level one good punch and the fight is over. A good counter-puncher will make minced-meat out of him, as Obama is in the process of learning.
In foreign policy, Obama led us to believe that he would proceed in the great Internationalist tradition of Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson. A tradition based upon an understanding of America’s unique and indispensable role in the world as a force for human liberty and the security of free peoples everywhere. And no nation requires and deserves that commitment more fully than the State of Israel.
Once in office, however, Obama showed himself to be painfully tone-deaf to the historical struggle and security concerns of the Jewish State and the dynamics of the extreme, unstable, and hugely dangerous forces that threaten and surround her. He went out of his way to ingratiate himself with some of the most reactionary, violent, and anti-Israel regimes in the area (Saudi Arabia and Iran in particular), and then proceeded, with the help of Secretary of State Clinton, to publicly humiliate Israel over disagreements regarding urban policies in Jerusalem (issues that should have been dealt with in private, if at all).
This is not the mark of a friend. It emboldened the worst elements of the Islamic world to think that the wind was shifting in their direction and it effectively took all pressures off the Palestinians to make concessions at the negotiating table. And no informed Jewish voter for whom the survival and security of Israel is an important priority is going to be gulled by the hollow professions of support now forthcoming from the administration conveniently timed for the upcoming election.
I could go on and on regarding lesser corruptions of Democratic principles – Obama’s flaccid support for the workers of Wisconsin, the internal corruption of his administration – especially at the Justice Department – his Chicago political crony-ism, his naivete regarding the “virtues” of the U.N. and the Third World dictatorships that dominate it, his abject failure to take forceful measures to free the U.S. from dependence upon Middle Eastern oil, etc., etc. All shortcomings which, I believe, are strikingly apparent and of grave concern to well-informed Jewish voters.
Obama put a target squarely on Hilliary's back. It's gong to be very interesting to see how they respond. Time to pop some corn and watch the fireworks....As for the denial on security requests, Charlene Lamb testified that she turned down the requests, after talking with senior state department officials. That must mean Hillary Clinton or Huma Abedin.
"That must mean Hillary Clinton or Huma Abedin."
Clinton perhaps, but not Abedin. She's the Deputy Chief of Staff and aide to Clinton. That office oversees the day to day functions and engagements of the Secretary.
If guidance didn't come from Clinton, it came from the Operations Center which falls under the Executive Secretariat.
Whatever hits the fan is never evenly distributed. Obama is guilty of lying to the American people. Clinton is guilty of malfeasance. Neither of these individuals is in legal jeopardy. They’re incompetence can result in the deaths of millions, and no one will ever hold them to account. To be fair, however, this standard only applies to the elite. Everyone else has to pay the piper.
About Charlene Lamb
any Christian who doesn't try to stop a guy who voted four times for live birth killings isn't doing his/her job!
Mittens Romney's version of Romneycare in Massachusetts funds abortions with taxpayer money.
Mittens Romney directed his judges and prosecutors in Massachussetts to fight parents seeking to block their minor-aged children from getting abortions without their consent.
Mittens Romney put Planned Parenthood in charge of providing $50 co-pay abortions under his version of Romneycare.
Face it Z, you support a candidate that has done precisely what you fear Obama "might" do.
Romney is the candidate for Obama supporters who need more gay activism and cheaper abortions in their lives.
Want a Jewish point of view?
Anonymous, I don't know if you're one of my frequent Anonymous commenters, but, if you're not, we welcome Democrats here, too...particularly those who talk like you do.
I know you understand that Republicans want health care reform, too..in a mature manner which usually involves working with both sides of the aisle and consulting with doctors who actually DO HEALTH CARE; little of which was done this time with Obama Care. We can't be adopting anything that involves 60% of our economy, either. We have to be smart and helpful but not break our country.
I was a fan of the smoke-filled rooms of the past, when Senators and Congressmen lived IN D.C. and the wives knew each other, children went to the same schools, and there seemed to be a civility between the parties which is gone now. Today, nobody has to worry about running into a wife of someone he slammed at a soccer game that afternoon. It kept things kinder and people cared about each other more, I think...as people, not just threatening opponents.
Tip O'Neal and Moynihan worked beautifully with Reagan; even the left says Obama NEVER consults his own party for advice let alone Republicans...yet the media won't tell us that truth. ....even when Chris Matthews DID, believe it or not.
Reed and Pelosi and Obama and all the Obama Harvard elitists with Socialism on their brains have to go; America isn't the same country anymore...four more years will be worse. Remember, Obama will be able to deal better with Russia this time around; which should be enough to convince any thinking AMerica to cut him loose, right?
Beamish...I don't know how many more times I can tell you that I"m a mature adult and i and the rest of my readers all understand we have two choices this time. Keep blasting; I couldn't care less.
But, I'm sorry you've become a little crazed. It worries me.
Z I think if beamish joins this site he will spend more time with babes his own age and less time with adults.
Anonymous...OY!!
By the way, if YOU are the same anonymous who wrote those two long comments, could you please put in an initial on your comments if you'd rather not get a Google account so I know you're you? I'd like that.
thanks
I think that right now in particular, most people's instincts tell them that we should stand behind Israel.
We'd be fools not to!
BTW, I mentioned in church, "who would have thought four years ago we'd pray God would give us a Mormon president?".
My personal view is that an intelligent people would have followed Mr. Washington’s advice (1796); we decided not to do that, over many years. We decided to throw our weight behind some nations, and against others. It was a decision made long ago; one I lament.
Now another challenge confronts us. Has America evolved to the sort of people who abandon those who we called our friends?
Mustang, I think that's the point, too; We never used to insult our allies. We have so few allies in that region that we're damned FOOLS for acting so badly toward Israel now.
The video REALLY brings it home, doesn't it. I'd say more Jews DO care about Israel than don't and I'm hoping they don't vote for Obama again because of his actions.
EVERYBODY:
BROOKE has a terrific poster on
GARY JOHNSON....it's down one post from her Visit to see Romney in Lebanon, Ohio, pictures of which you might like to see, too.
Gary Johnson......you MUST see the advice; it's so true.
OK, this is one of DOZENS of REASONS that Jewish or any other people shouldn't vote for this "nappy-headed, big eared, little nerd". Now, what was the REASON that we should? I don't remember, do you?
Z - No matter which major party you vote for, you're going to get a statist who panders to special interests.....the size of government will increase, entitlements will continue, and your individual liberties will continue to be regulated and taxed.
It's easy to convince oneself that one is better than the other, but both of them got us into the situation we find ourselves.
It's amazing a single Jewish person or Christian would vote obama.
Yea, never expect peace there. Hmmm, is there peace anywhere ? In your neighborhood perhaps ? No? Hmmm.
Marine4ever,
"Remember, Cuba voted in Castro, and Germany voted in Hitler. If America votes in Obama for the second time, we deserve a dictator."
Yep. Well, we won't but the people who voted for him will.
Anita, You're a riot. And smart.
I sure hope they put it to hilrod on this one. I'd sleep a lot better knowing she'll NEVER be in the White House.
It's amazing a single Jewish person or Christian would vote obama.
Yeah, or the married ones, either.
@ Kid -- "I'd sleep a lot better knowing she'll NEVER be in the White House."
Uuuh... you mean AGAIN?
Marine4ever. Roger that.
Z said...
By the way, if YOU are the same anonymous who wrote those two long comments//
Heavens NO.
Marine
I believe Hitler was coerced the President into naming him Chancellor, and when the President died, Hitler declared himself President for life, so I don't think you can make a legitimate claim that the Germans voted him in.
I don't know how Castro came to power. Maybe someone else can play Andy Levy on that account.
big fat tio mike
___________ JERUSALEM ___________
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?
And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic Mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.
~ William Blake (1757-1827)
What do you think Blake meant when he wrote of building JERUSALEM in England's green and pleasant land?
I'm reasonably certain he was not referring to any piece of specific territory in the Middle East.
~ FreeThinke
Const. Insurg...if you don't think Obama's far worse than Romney, you're not thinking. SOrry, but we must have extremely different values.
I don't love any of the Republican choices we had....but compared to Obama? I'm NUTS about Romney.
FT...that's a poem based on ancient lore before Blake's times that 'said' Jesus came to England; not true, of course.......The Christian Church and the English Church in particular have always used Jerusalem as a metaphor for Heaven, a place of universal love and peace....sort of like "nirvana"...
Sadly, those who don't understand God's love of Jerusalem which is spoken of SO many times in Scripture, whether one likes it or not, have made it anything but heaven these days... I believe Blake was well aware of where Jerusalem was...and that wasn't England!
I have NEVER heard anything as disgustingly dishonest as a piece on CNN I'm listening to here late Sunday night...he said/he said on Republicans and voter fraud. No facts, just bickering in the Republican party and heresay....but it's on CNN!! You don't hear all the myriad accounts of Dem fraud, where there are lawsuits and videos of Democrats who worked for Hillary in 2008, for example, discussing OBAMA voter fraud, but let bitter contestants within the Republican party go after each other accusing each other...and CNN covers it.
The questions of the interviewer are SO sickeningly leading and like entrapment it's astonishing. And there is absolutely NO proof of any of this.
Do I still get surprised at the stinking leftwing media? Believe it or not, yes. the honest streak in me continues to be STUNNED>
DAMN them
re my post about Israel and the video, I'm so sorry that my verse hadn't been published here..the verse 'address' was but I had quoted the actual verse and it doesn't seem to have printed.......
So, I'm sorry that the beautiful verse of Genesis 12:3 only now appears on Monday...
sorry about that!
Z said...
"I have NEVER heard anything as disgustingly dishonest as a piece on CNN I'm listening to here late Sunday night"
As they say Z, You ain't heard nothin yet!
Beamish...I don't know how many more times I can tell you that I"m a mature adult and i and the rest of my readers all understand we have two choices this time. Keep blasting; I couldn't care less.
Again, lying is a sin, if not a hallmark of poor character. If you "couldn't care less" you wouldn't spend any time at all deleting my posts that show that Romney is more left-wing and worse than Obama.
I get that you don't like Obama. I don't either. But your two choices are Obama and Worse-Than-Obama.
How about demonstrating some of that "maturity" you absurdly claim to have while allowing anonymous posters to insult me with porn sites and address Mittens Romney's actions on gay marriage, abortion, illegal immigration, and socialized health care which put him well to the left of Obama.
"The Christian Church and the English Church in particular have always used Jerusalem as a metaphor for Heaven, a place of universal love and peace....sort of like "nirvana"
Yes. That is exactly what I've been driving at, Z. Thank you.
One could argue that Jesus -- as God's Eternal Word -- has always existed, and that He has been, is, and ever shall remain EVERYWHERE.
If God is, as I believe, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, He and by implication His Only Begotten Son also known as God Incarnate -- the Word made flesh -- have been with us ALWAYS.
My understanding tells me the Truth which is God surrounds all human beings waiting to be discovered and acted upon.
In those terms anything and everything that MATTERS is entirely SPIRITUAL.
Blake, who was a great mystic, saw "Jerusalem" as a STATE (condition) -- not a PLACE -- of eternal blessedness.
"Israel," "Zion," and "Jerusalem" function as metaphors or symbols for the blessing of advanced spiritual awareness and understanding.
I believe the more usual view has been tragically misleading. "By their fruits ye shall know them."
~ FT
@ Anon -- "...so I don't think you can make a legitimate claim that the Germans voted him in."
"The Nazi terror in the early years affected the lives of relatively few Germans and a newly arrived observer was somewhat surprised to see that the people of this country did not seem to feel that they were being cowed.... On the contrary, they supported it with genuine enthusiasm. Somehow it imbued them with a new hope and a new confidence and an astonishing faith in the future of their country."
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0403a.asp
The German people may not have 'voted' Hitler in but they sure didn't do anything to 'vote' him OUT.
FT: "One could argue that Jesus -- as God's Eternal Word -- has always existed, and that He has been, is, and ever shall remain EVERYWHERE.
"If God is, as I believe, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, He and by implication His Only Begotten Son also known as God Incarnate -- the Word made flesh -- have been with us ALWAYS."
Your theology is correct. Your application might be considered suspect.
Countless newsreels depict the awe struck German people fawning over Hitler in his rise to power. I find this analogous to B.O. and his "Hope and Change" BS in 2008. We, however, have one big advantage over those mislead Germans and it's coming soon; November 6, 2012!
@ FT (or anyone else) --
For me, God's Word is literal; God doesn't use innuendos. Jerusalem IS Jerusalem. The Jews ARE His chosen people. Non-Jews, by accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Redeemer, become a part of God's chosen people and, before the End Times, MANY Jews WILL COME to God through His Son, Jesus Christ and be saved.
That's my take on it and there's really no reason for further discourse on it. We'll see who's right or wrong when the time comes.
As for me, I'll stand on the Word.
FT!! Jerusalem IS IN THE MIDDLE EAST... it's in Scripture in 10000 places.
I thought my information to you was very clear; it's considered a metaphor BECAUSE it's the place God made in the region it's in NOW because it was God's land.
Blake wasn't the one who invented the idea of Jerusalem being used as a kind of 'heaven'! But why would anybody use Jerusalem as a metaphor for perfection if it wasn't in Scripture and if it wasn't there in the Middle East!? :-)
Like Marine4, I stand on the Word.
Hmmm...as far as I know I haven't posted in this tread. There is a person using my name and posting nasty stuff in other blogs...
Obama's supports Israel but they should not be allowed to dictate what we do militarily. Rmoney's biggest contributor, Sheldon Adleson, is a Jew and has advocated war with Iran. Netanyahu backs Obama now.
Romney will do what his rich contributors tell him and more average Americans will die and suffer.
'Netanyahu: I'm Not Backing Romney'
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/netanyahu-obama-backing-romney/story?id=17289324#.UHyWiYWkA_s
liberalmann....he told obama he won't interfere...do you know what Obama could DO to Israel if Netanyahu DID interfere in favor of his long-time friend Romney?
Grow up.
And, by the way, who the HELL would want to disguise himself as YOU at my blog?
Stop the games. my gosh...grow UP
"Obama could DO to Israel?" Really? Lol! Ah...give them more billions of dollars in aid?
No, to continue to dump our one ally in the region in the mud.
Many times I see it reserected: "Are you better off than you were four years ago"? To most, the answer would be a resounding NO! Now I ask to: Ducky, Liberalmann and that other strange fellow (you know who you are) are you SMARTER than you were four years ago?
SO you think that arrogant ass Netanyahu should tell us when and how we should go to war and sacrifice American lives at their behest andon their behalf while they bleed our budget? Iran is years away from developing a bomb due to; pressure in the region, the lack of aid and the COMPUTERS WE INFECT ON A DAILY BASIS. Get a clue.
Even the administration doesn't believe that BS Liberalmann.
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