Monday, December 30, 2013

Obama and friends "just happened to.........WHAT?" WOW

Mustang "just happened to" find this and wanted you to read it...I've seen so many "just happened to's" like this that I haven't posted, I figured  it was probably time I did.   I don't know who wrote it, but here it goes: 

For those of you who enjoy mathematical challenges, what do you think the chances are that the following is mere coincidence? Then try to assess the likelihood that these events are simply inadvertently linked to Obama’s Marxist policies, his anti-American foreign policy, and the behavior of his administration relative to Operation Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS debacle, and revelations about the NSA.

Shall we begin?

just happened to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father 
just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who 
just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who
  just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who
 just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama 
just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who 
just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which
 just happened to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which 
just happened not to properly maintain the housing —which eventually
 just happened to require demolition.

Valerie Jarrett also 
just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and
 just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Mrs. Obama), who
 just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernadine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama
 just happened to get a summer job.

Of course, Bernadine Dohrn
 just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she 
just happened to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who
 just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour 
just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour 
just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who
 just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama
 just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who 
just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who 
just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who
 just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya, and who also happened to be an avowed communist.

One may recall that Obama Sr 
just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which 
just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who 
just happened to be a friend of Malcolm X, who
 just happened to have been associated with the Nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who
 just happens to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also 
just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, who
 just happens to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents 
just happened to have no concern exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.

After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he 
just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that
 just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who
 just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama’s $25,000 salary at IAF 
just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company 
just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers
 just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.  

 (Z: you remember Ayers, who hosted Obama's first election 'coffee' in his home, sat on the same Bd of Directors and whose wives knew each other,  but Obama "just happened" to forget he knew him and told the world he didn't?)

Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and
 just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who 
just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who 
just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which
 just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which 
just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who 
just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama’s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.  

(Z:  And you might know that Michelle Obama just happened to earn $250K at a Chicago hospital  but, when she left, nobody was hired to replace her, so I'm wondering what she did for that much money 10 years ago that they didn't need to get anybody to continue the work?)

Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama
 just happened never to hear because he 
just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic,” and Obama
 just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and 
just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.

Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama
 just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he 
just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father, which
 just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who
 just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama
 just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.

Obama, of course, was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which
 just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which 
just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner
 just happened to have been a classmate of Bernadine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.
 In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks (Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit
 just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving sub prime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which 
just happened to spread nationwide, and which
 just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing market, which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.

In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which 
just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who 
just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.

In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who
 just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers
 just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama 
just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel “will never see a day of peace,” and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children’s dance whose performances
 just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,” and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.

In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull’s sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.

Z:  Please supply links if you disagree with any of these and please remember that if one of the smaller points isn't 100% correct, that doesn't negate the rest of them, okay?  We' d like to discuss the various points but, mostly, the BIG PICTURE implications in this article.  Thanks!

Hat tip: Old NFO

~discovered by Mustang


Dave Miller said...

Really? You'd like to discuss the points, but us libs are only granted entrance with links? And then those links must address the whole thrust of each point?

You've provided no links to buttress any of these points.

Kid pushed me the other day to provide exact links to my points, which I did. Where are yours?

You don't want to discuss anything in this from another perspective. You want people who agree with you to join in your slam Obama fest.

When there is so more to criticize him for, with real links and implications, why resort to nothing more coincidental than the Lincoln/Kennedy assassination similarities?

And no I won't be avoiding responses today, I'll be in the road...

Z said...

Dave, your comment's funny! Absolutely!
We're about tearing these coincidences apart and helping some of us feel a little better about the connections in this piece; most of which we've heard for years, it's just a bit disconcerting to see them all lumped together. I'm hoping someone can provide a lot of links showing any of these are absolutely incorrect.

I don't want what you call the "slam Obama fest" to be countered only by the usual
"all you're having is an Obama slam fest" "who said?" "that didn't happen"...really? SHOW US! We hope you're right.

Opinionated Me said...

Yes Dave and Harry Reid called him a "light skinned" African-American "with no Negro dialect, But DUH! That goes with the territory.
" Negro Dialect?" Can you imagine the outrage if a Republican had said something so stupid? Harry Reid is next to worthless already and this is a perfect opportunity for him to step down to avoid getting crushed in the next election.

But now let us Fast Forward a few months and it’s ObamaCare that looks like the lost cause.
And please remind me, Obama was voted President on WHAT credentials”

Remember that dumb cowboy George W. Bush, who alienated all our allies and dragged us into wars of choice in the Mideast?
And remember whey YOU and your cohorts over at that Progressive Cave call George Bush a Chimp and a Doper and followed up with ALL those Chimpanzee cartoons! And remember that goofball Mitt Romney, whom Joe Biden a year ago accused of wanting to go to war in Syria?
Both of them must be having a big laugh over the way things are going for Obama now. And remember when Obama drew that stupid “Red Line: and gave Putin a new lease on life? Bumbling Syria diplomacy, it seemed that things couldn't possibly go further downhill. Boy, were you Liberals/Progressives wrong.
Ans. Obama's efforts to get support at the G20 conference came to nothing. Even the pope was undercutting him.
And do you remember when Barack Obama refused to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu on his US visit, “due to a scheduling conflict” a rude snub to 7 million Israelis ro say the least!
Meanwhile, at home, polls show Obama is facing lower and lower approval ratings. Even with Democrats in the Senate. You can bet they don't appreciate Obama putting them in this position. The Pentagon isn't happy, and even The Atlantic's Ta-Nehisi Coates, a reliable Obama supporter, calls his policy "dumb."

Some critics are even comparing the collapse of American influence under Obama to the end of the Soviet Union. Well, that may be an exaggeration -- But at least Hollywood is still behind Obama -- or, anyway, is mostly keeping quiet about its opposition because, as old-line Hollywood liberal Ed Asner reports, they "don't want to feel anti-black." So it's come to this -- while George W. Bush was savaged for "bombing brown people," and the cause of the Floods in New Orleans, so that he could murder Blacks. Isn’t that what Spike Lee said? And meanwhile our diplomacy is a joke, our president is a laughing stock, our enemies are emboldened, and we've still got over three years of this to go. Nothing funny there at all, is there DAVE? Haven’t you been reading the papers at all?
The reality, and the facts are this - Obama has become the joke to the world and to the media. And the conservatives and republicans ALWAYS thought he was.
And the people over at the Progressive Cave, where you simple act like a “Yes Man” just name call. Wouldn't expect anything less from someone of your ilk over there.. .

Z said...

Off Topic, but only a bit;

This morning, CNN and WashPo are raving about the "Sudden SURGE in ObamaCare sign ups"!

Wait! it's "Sudden" because the site's finally WORKING! :-)
It's a "Surge" because people won't have insurance unless they sign up NOW :-)

But, it sounds great, doesn't it? "There's a SUDDEN SURGE!" Sounds like "You, too, need to SIGN UP! Everybody ELSE is!" :-)

you can't make this stuff up

Z said...

Wow, Opinionated Me..thanks for the comment; good points there.
Did you hear that Rahm Emanuel, when at the White House, was against rolling ObamaCare out as it was; in one monolithic huge bill instead of trying to do things in constructive ways like the Republicans wanted? It seems his brother, the architect of it, won that argument; And Rahm was gone.
Maybe that's a 'coincidence,' he DID become Mayor of Chicago, but...who knew till now that Rahm was against it?

Defusing The Liberal Lies. said...

Dave: How about pointing out where GeeeeeZ, or Opinionated Me is wrong rather than just revert to name calling? Oh that's right you people on the left CAN'T!!! Why didn't you use the race card as well?
"Obama is the laughing stock of the world" >> This has been true long before Syria.
What does it say about Obama that he doesn't even know major facts about Obamacare? E.G., "you can keep your health plan if you like it," "you can keep your doctor if you like him," or it will save the average family $2500/yr.
Even the The Washington Post: Awarded” Obama 4 Pinocchio’s out of a max of 4 for his Obamacare healthcare plan massive lying!
Dave, give it a rest already. The great Obama's favor-ability ratings continue to drop. The American people are finally getting what a dunce we have for a President. ( Almost all the American people) The Progressives will stick with the sinking ship no matter what! But that’s no lose.
Either he's a liar, or a laughing stock idiot. I would say both! Face the hard truth that this Presidency is an enormous failure. Virtually EVERYTHING he has done and/or imposed on the American people is an enormous failure. His entire campaign was a lie - not just an insulting lie. Three more years. I fear what happens with the ineptitude present in the White House during the next 3 years.

Right-Winger said...

Excellent Post Geeeze.
It is has taken five years for the extreme left to finally see their guy is a laughing stock!! It took the rest of us five minutes to figure that out! But there are still some Die-Hards left out there who refuse to see the light.
It’s been over a year and still no one is being held accountable for a abandoning Americans in the heat of battle. Obama’s promise to being the one(s) responsible to justice has gone quite. Instead we are now getting all those BS stories to protect Hillary Clinton’s image. No one has dared to interview the people who were there, instead we are taking the lying words from Hillary Clinton and Susan Rice who received a promotion for keeping her mouth shut! The Agency running guns from Libyan rebels to Syrian ones, who've now likely used WMDs to pin on Assad and enable US involvement (which isn't working out so well, is it?). Whole thing stinks to high hell. And President Hopenchange is absolutely covered in it.
And yes, it’s so true, Obama is the LAUGHING STOCK of the world, but it's no laughing matter here in the USA. Obama's abject ignorance & arrogance and his slavish support from the left have hurled the Middle East headlong onto a course of total upheaval.

One country after the next, de-stabilized, demonized and ripe for the radical pickin's, seem to be the DANGEROUS game Obama & his equally-clueless,
And yet, our 1 TRUE ALLY, Israel, is treated like the less favored step-child that must always give in to get along.
I'm beginning to think Obama WANTS all this disruption in the middle east. It's clear he's not fond of Israel, our closest ally in the region... what better way to destabilize the region than to assist rebels in surrounding Arab countries and make the situation precarious for Israel?
This is how much I don't trust Obama.... he stands by his "Radical Muslim Brothers" as the political winds change and is willing to toss Israel to the wolves. I fervently hope I'm wrong.
Let's just hope that the Clown, Obama, gets into his little golf cart, heads out to play a few rounds, and ceases his deadly, dangerous game of brinkmanship . . a role he'll NEVER understand, nor master.
As a Conservative, I've had to watch 5 years of a buffoon president making himself look like a monkey. Now the rest of the world sees the same....I will say this: George W Bush made plenty of mistakes, yes that's a given but Obama makes him look like Albert Einstein! And I wasn't a big a Bush supporter.. But after seeing this disaster presidency I truly miss him.

Sam Huntington said...

Dave is right ... all of this is mere coincidence.


DaBlade said...

Z, Before you start recklessly throwing out those irritating fact thingys on your blog, stop and think about the feelings you might hurt of all the progressive weenies reading this while wearing their onesie unitard footie pajamas and sipping hot cocoa from starbucks!

btw, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Duckys here said...

Three degrees of separation.

Shouldn't be too difficult to make mustang an operative of Kim Jong Un.

Amazing what passes for informed comment on the right.

Impertinent said...


" The great Obama's favor-ability ratings continue to drop."

See...the libs need a symbol for their T shirts. You Che, Mao, Malcom X, Hope and Change and now silk screened shirts with this dope too.

They'll always need their revolutionary gods to worship.

Remember Ben Gazi said...

Sigh. It appears Mr. Putin and Mr. Assad have skillfully outmaneuvered our foreign policy makers with his latest gambit. The Syrian regime obviously feels safe enough to resume air campaigns against the rebels. The administration took a position of a moral urgency to act with careless talk of red lines and Holocaust imagery, only to grasp at UN weapons inspection regime (remember how well those work) at the 11th hour. We look weak and ineffective and Russia looks like the new power broker in the region. It is disappointing to see any commenters look at this exclusively through the lens of American domestic politics, even if he is a Liberal such as Dave. . This is an embarrassment whether you choose to acknowledge it or not

T Krabby said...

A Long list of incompetence and lies...

How very liberal of you to say you like facts and yet you hypocritically support the liar who said:

1. I will have the most transparent administration.

2. I have Shovel ready jobs.

3. The IRS is not targeting anyone.

4. If four Americans get killed, it is not optimal.

5. There are going to be bumps in the road. (referring to Libya and Egypt protests/attacks).

6. ObamaCare will be good for America.

7. You can keep your family doctor.

8. Premiums will be lowered by $2500

9. You can keep your current healthcare plan

10. Just shop around, for that healthcare I claimed you wouldn't lose.

11. I am sorry you lost your healthcare, (you know the health care you have to shop around for, ya the same health care I said you could keep, yup, that's the one).

12. I did not say you could keep your health care. (Regardless that 29 recorded videos show I did)

13. ObamaCare will not be offered to illegal immigrants.

14. ObamaCare will not be used to fund abortions.

15. ObamaCare will cost less than 1 Trillion Dollars.

16. No one making under $250,000 will see their taxes raised one dime.

17. It is Bushes fault. (this can be inserted in between every statement).

18. It was about a movie.

19. I will fundamentally transform America. (This one sadly is very true)

20. If I had a son.

21. I am not a dictator.

22. I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division, conflict and cynicism".

23. You didn't build that.

24. I will restore trust in Government.

25. The Cambridge police acted stupidly.

26. I am not after your guns.

27. The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. The BHO of (2006).

28. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics.

29. "If I don't have this done in three years, then this is going to be a one-term proposition.

30. I do think at a certain point you've made enough money.

31. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.

32. The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk

33. It's not my red line it is the worlds red line.

34. Whistle blowers will be protected.

35. We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.

36. I am good at killing people.

37. I will close Gitmo. (but instead built them a $750,000 soccer field).

38. The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't, but she is a typical white person

39. I am not spying on American citizens.

40. By, on, on, by, Friday uh afternoon things get a little uh, uh challenged uh, uh ( when left to think for himself without a Teleprompter).

41. I am a Christian.

42. John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.

43. It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy.

44. UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems. (Attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare).

45. What’s good for illegal immigrants is also good for people who are losing their health insurance because of Obamacare.

And the biggest lie of all

I Barrack Hussain Obama pledge to preserve protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

Duckys here said...

Imp, I have a general challenge out to the right to demonstrate that Obama has governed like a socialist.

About all you ave is the ACA ad in that case he did absolutely nothing to lobby for single payer health care which would have been modest support for your position.

So I would still like to know where he has been anything but a militarist and a tool of Wall St.

Gay rights doesn't count because he has been swept up in the general tide of acceptance in the country. I know that really steams off the right but Obama has had little to do with the movement.

So just what qualifies him as a socialist? He's been happily going along with Max Baucus cutting social programs. Military spending is going great guns and he is quite happy to go into short term debt to fund depreciating assets, just like Reagan.

So a couple points would be appreciated.

Fred Baron said...

Duckys here said...

Three degrees of separation.

Shouldn't be too difficult to make mustang an operative of Kim Jong Un.


Then do it, or shut your quack hole.

Duckys here said...

"... and the behavior of his administration relative to Operation Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS debacle, and revelations about the NSA."

1. Fast and furious was a failed effort but hardly something that threatened an overthrow of the nation.

2. Benghazi is a non issue.

3. IRS, non issue.

4. The NSA is very much an issue and one that ha been with us for some time and will only get worse with the advances in technology regardless of party affiliation.

Lawrance O'Brien said...

Duckys here and Dave and Other People Who Deny Benghazi Are Living in a Delusional World.
We can NOT ever forget the terrorist attack on the American consulate in Benghazi that killed an American ambassador and three members of his staff over a year ago, on Sept. 11, 2012, in Libya.
Whats wrong with you people, this is President Elect Hillary Clinton denying the reality of the planned jihad attack! How can you possibly believe this LIAR!

JonBerg said...


"You've provided no links to buttress any of these points."

Well Dave, you have offered no links to refute "these points". I believe that the author has invited such. Bad choices take their toll; get over it!

Sam Huntington said...

For someone like Ducky to equate anyone else to Kim Jong Un is nothing if not brazen, for here we have a filthy communist POS who has far more in common with Un, and Mao, and Stalin, and Brezhnev, and Castro than anyone I have ever come across, daring to lay such a claim at anyone else’s door step. We have only one conclusion from this: Ducky is a complete idiot. But you do have to give the duck his due: he’s consistent.

American Jihad said...

So the Progressive Blogger is overjoyed about the Stupid New York Times Investigation about the Benghazi Attack!
Oh, an investigation by the NYT...well that certainly settles it.
The NYT interviewed hundreds of Libyans? Tell me, what the HELL did they expect from those “hundreds of Libyans”?
Did the NYT interview any of the survivors that the Justice and State Departments blocked access to, foe some God forsaken reason”?
And what happened to the story that Obama: ("If you like your plan,you can keep it period") saying that he admitted the fact that it was a terrorist attack, when he was interviewed in the Rose Garden?
Obama said in a televised statement from the White House Rose Garden with then Secretary of State Hillary Rootten Clinton. “Make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.”
Are we supposed to forget that one? So now their changing the “Facts” and once again Lying about Benghazi so that they can clean up Hillary Clinton aka the Butcher of Benghazi to prop her up for the 2016 elections!
But sorry, you Useful Idiots, we are not going to fall for it. We owe it to the four dead Americans and their families to not allow this tragedy be spun by those lying progressives in this country. But as Hillary would say, what does it really matter? What does it really matter? I wonder if would “Matter? if their brother, or husband, or Son, had been killed there?
A STUPID New York Times investigation of Benghazi is literally not worth the cost of the paper it́s printed on. There is a better use for that paper and it’s for putting on the bottom of the Bird Cage. This is an obvious attempt to cover up for Hillary. Some people will believe this fairy tale because they want to. It will be widely quoted by liberals who still think anything printed in this rag must be true. The evidence says otherwise.
First of all a so called "investigation" by the NY Times does not constitute a real investigation. Did the NY Times track down that witnesses that Obama was looking for for the past year and a half? This Crap they printed is hardly a vindication of Hillary. And what happened to Obama’s promise to TRACK DOWN THE GUILTY ONES AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE? I seem to remember when Obama condemned the killings, and promised to bring the assailants to justice.
This creep has been on 10 or 20 radio interviews all over the world and WE can’t” track him down”?
Well, I guess that we can all move on and forget Benghazi and the Ambassadors death and the 3 others now the NY Times has spoken....
And just to think that Nixon was forced out (by his own party) to resign for so much, MUCH less...
Hillary’s attitude toward the entire “Benghazi affair” is summed up in her “What Difference Does It Make”!

Lisa said...

The best argument for when they brag about people signing up for Obamcare is "It's a Law,You have to sign up" or pay a penalty.

Duckys here said...

My, my, Sam I'm amazed z allows that kind of potty mouth even under her double standards.

Do you even know what I mean by 3 degrees of separation?
I must remind myself that with you I have to be very explicit.

Emily said...

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE. This all makes a “difference” because it makes Secretary Clinton look incompetent. When she flippantly declared with a smirk during the Senate hearing that she couldn’t be bothered to read the 1.4 million cables that came through to the State Department last year, including those from Ambassador Stevens, sorry but my sarcasm detector broke otherwise I’d say what I really wanted to say to these treacherous progressives..

Z said...

WOW, great comments, most of you.

TKrabby; that list is quite a list!
That even SOME of them are 100% correct makes one a little worried, doesn't it?

Ducky, that you think Fast and Furious is a non-issue is sad...the IRS thing was despicable, but only happened about 1/10th of the time to libs, if that, so I guess you don't care.
Sad..very sad.
Some of us DO believe in freedom, honesty and truth.

Um..they're cutting military spending like crazy, mostly from our injured (which I hear is being changed; I hope that's true).
Most Americans believe that redistribution IS socialistic and we don't want it. Obama's been silliness this year is attacking INCOME INEQUALITY...really? Are we ALL going to have the SAME INCOME some day, Comrade Stalin?

Am. Jihad...I saw that ghoul Alan Colmes on FOX this morning talking about how many embassy folks died during Bush's time and he even threw in 9/11 for effect; the truth is there WERE investigations about all of those and nobody felt LIED TO. He just didn't understand, I guess, that it's the coverup and inconsistencies and, today, the NY Times coverup that's bad; we KNOW atrocities will be perpetuated by Islam; that's not the question. The question is TELL THE TRUTH about them.
Libs are paying more attention to NY Times interviews than interviews of those who were FINALLY able to talk who were there!

Defusing Lib Lies; Dave doesn't 'revert to name calling,' but he sure missed the point of my question.

Sam and DaBlade and JonBerg...RIGHT! All I asked was for a link saying "Obama never DID know Ayers" or "Valerie Jarrett did NOT know..." but, alas.
And DB..happy new year to you, too.

K. E., Atlanta, Georgia said...

We all learned from Hillary Clinton’s Congressional hearings on Benghazi was nothing but a load of lies and cover ups. What was revealed was a combative, arrogant President-wannabe, who thinks she’s above reproach or accountability and was especially miffed she had to be questioned by members of Congress about why four Americans were killed at the US Consulate in Benghazi under her watch.

Hillary’s whole attitude toward the Benghazi attack is summed up well in her irritated response about what caused the attack on the US Consulate in Benghazi. “Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?” she shouted, well I’m sure that it makes a great deal of difference to the fanilies of those who were murdered.

Z said...

Ducky, if I had any standard other than openness and tolerance here, you wouldn't be here, so take a breath.

Where's the potty mouth?
have you SEEN potty mouths at Lib blogs? Do that and then compare here, ok?

Lisa; exactly! "SURGE?" it's the LAW, they can FINALLY (kind of) get INto it....what are the congratulations for? :)

American Jihad; we just have to hope it never happens again because the details of Benghazi are heart breaking. Imagine how Stevens felt when they realized nobody had their back except the SEALS who tried so hard and got killed themselves?

Hillary said "What's the difference?" and I rather understand that...we have FOUR DEAD AMERICANS! BUT, the DIFFERENCE is that we should care about finding out; to prevent future problems.
My question to the Left now that they're fawning over the NYTIMES article which puts Hillary in a much better light if you buy their version, is "NOW it matters? NOW it's importance and DOES make a difference, now that Obama and HIllary are painted as victims of an anti-islam video?" REALLY?

Anonymous said...

Geezeze said, "
Defusing Lib Lies; Dave doesn't 'revert to name calling,' but he sure missed the point of my question"

Maybe here he doesn't but on his Mistresses blog he does. .

Z said...

Anon; that might be the cheapest shot I've ever had from a commenter. congratulations.
Got a link or is that only there because you saw you were wrong about his name calling and had to attack otherwise?

Duckys here said...

@Sam --- for here we have a filthy communist POS

So z, are those terms of endearment in right wing world.

If you want some hard news worth an article

Z said...

Ducky...Sam's mad. I'm as open and tolerant toward him as I am of you.

As for your linking new articles here, you've been doing that a lot lately; maybe you're ready for your own blog?
Also, what's saddest about that is that it's Der Spiegel reporting when it suggests the WaPo has that information, too.

Will this story be shoved down by the Obama NSA machine?

Sam Huntington said...

Ducky, Ducky, Ducky … why feign outrage? I wasn’t lying; you ARE a filthy communist POS. Don’t live in denial, you hack … reach out an own who and what you are.

Mustang said...

Don't let him irritate you, Sam. We all know what he is.

Z said...

Ducky, let's hear how you're not a socialist or make up definitions and tell us who WE are Calvinist (which is not a pejorative, by the way), racists, muslim-haters, etc.); man up and explain what you are.

Impertinent said...

Mr. Mallard ( that quacks me up! )


I didn't challenge you and I have no desire or energy to take it up anyway.

Duckys here said...

I have never denied that my world view is ultimately socialist, z.

I know one when I see one and to say Obama is leftist is to tear the fabric of reason.

Meanwhile the oligarchy (the elect) is firmly in place while we go back and forth over whether or not Obama is a Kenyan Muslim. Insane.
So ... the average American is not above guilt. We keep getting distracted by issues that will never change - abortion, gun control, etc. instead of looking at how little the guy we voted for is doing. It's a huge hole that we've dug ourselves into, and I don't see any way to put the dirt back in without burying ourselves in the process.

But blather on about Bill Ayers.

And I try not to be remiss in thanking those who call me a socialist. As Christ said, "The poor will always be with us".
That's because he knew we wouldn't have the will to make some of the sacrifices necessary but rather we would dance like puppets.
Christ knew the struggle is eternal.

Z said...

Ducky, you have such a different worldview and expect everyone here to bow to it and give the impression you think "they (meaning me and my conservative commenters) just don't understand. If they really loved people, they'd be with me..." rubbish.

I am SO TIRED of the insinuations that we hate the poor and unwell, are racists, bigots, etc., by you and other leftists. You have NEVER had a reason to believe that from anything I've written, so please STOP it. As a matter of fact,I've written quite the opposite.

The "fabric of reason" was torn when people actually voted for someone they'd barely heard of, who'd never had a real job, who had absolutely no experience, and who lied openly about so many things.

You mention Ayers as if we really care about that; do you honestly not understand our point or are you being purposefully obtuse?

WE DO NOT LIKE LIES...from the right OR the left, particularly when they're hurting so many Americans, hurting our foreign reputation (you may not agree but enemies being afraid of us is a GOOD thing, kumbaya isn't a song violent islam sings, Ducky) etc etc etc.

Ah, we don't love CHrist or respect his teachings ...? Now you're using the quote I have tried to educate you with FOR socialism?

Take a peek at my Sunday faith blog from yesterday, Ducky......and then remember that we are to give from our HEARTS not from our GOVERNMENT; big difference. But I won't play the "your scripture's better than mine; it's unseemly and unholy.

Let me just leave with you this, then I'm done doing what I just asked you not to do!:
"Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Corinthians 9:7

And, you know, Ducky, we could actually have a discussion if you would just stop the smarminess. Because we don't agree with you does not make us less than me.

And, America isn't SOCIALIST and you should be utterly ashamed that you still don't understand that not one country has made a success of stripping the hard workers to give to others.

It takes away from the human robs the strong minded and enables the weak. What do you miss?

Sam Huntington said...

Ducky thinks that Jesus was a socialist?

As I keep saying, Ducky is a moron.

And about his love for socialism, guess what?

"The goal of socialism is communism." -Vladimir Lenin

Sparky said...

... and that is how we just happen to have a well organized black drug gang in the White House, and some people think that's alright.

Lord have mercy.

Bob said...

I think Dave could be right. Maybe dead right, but right (that would mean that even with no links everything Mustang says is right. That's where I will put my money.

We all know without a reasonable doubt that Obama leans very heavily Marxist in a narcissistic sort of way.

The man has stonewalled any attempt to get him to admit these documented relationships, but Dave has a point that documents are needed for each and every one.

However, if Dave has any inkling that Obama tells the truth about anything, he should listen to our ego driven President on a daily basis, and assign a truth/lie factor to whatever the man says.

We now hear that millions of people are taking advantage of the new Obama Care website.


There is no advantage to it because Obama threw these self-same people off their insurance policies and is forcing them into degraded policies that cover little more, but cost significantly more.

Yeah, Dave. Set us all straight.

JonBerg said...

"The goal of socialism is communism." -Vladimir Lenin

Well if that's so good why did I meet so many who risked their lives to escape Czechoslovakia, East Germany, etc. during the 60's-80's before they finally got rid of it? Look at how long it's taken East Germany to even begin to approach the quality of life enjoyed by the West. Compare and contrast North Korea with South Korea. Need I mention the former Soviet Union and its untold genocide? Socialism/Communism is the domain of the chronically discontented, with low aspirations, and the authoritarian minded, opportunists who will take advantage of them.

Since Ducky must know that most on this and like minded sites are antithetical to his advocacy of Socialism/Communism and in no way can he expect to affect conversion on others, perhaps his omnipresence is a sign that he seeks the rationality that keeps him from going further off the "deep end". Why else would he keep showing-up?

Z said...

Bob, most of these points have been proven beyond a doubt, those connections have been known since Beck tried so hard WITH the facts and figures. Do you remember that? When he'd not say a thing without the written proof provided by his lawyers?
Ya, they laugh about Beck here; he scared them to death. So did Breitbart,'s like these guys were shining a cross at a vampire.

Z said... educate us. :)

You're right about E Germany, something I know a lot about, personally. I've seen TV panel discussion in Germany where, after unification, E Germans were moaning about not being able to "go into the pubs and talk all night like we used to in East Germany when we could discuss real issues."
In other words, socialist E Germany was a haven for DEEP THOUGHT :-)
I don't think anybody on the panel asked "Well, what's stopping you from talking deep talks in WEST Germany pubs/restaurants?"

Which is true. I've had amazing discussions with Germans about conservatism, socialism, etc. By the way, we didn't agree on much, some of our good friends and us, but we didn't insult or leave the table. Nobody's quite as angry as we Americans have become. That's a hard thing to ponder, but it's true.
Here, you can barely discuss conservatism in Santa Monica, for example, though I DO have friends who are conservatives...if you get invited to dinner parties, you need to keep your mouth shut or they view you as a conservative idiot; they really DO buy into the 'bigot, racist, hateful' bunk the left smears on us. it's amazing.
Then they get to know me and seem perplexed..."How can this seemingly nice woman not be a LIBERAL LIKE US:?" it's pretty funny what I've heard from hosts afterwards!

Louis H. said...

If this were a case for the systeme judiciary, we must assign guilt based on the weight of the circumstances. C’est mon opinion.

Duckys here said...
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Duckys here said...

@z --- Ducky, you have such a different worldview and expect everyone here to bow to it ...

It does help me clarify my own beliefs however.

And at no time have i ever suggested that anyone here doesn't practice charity and at no time have I ever demeaned the idea of charity.
However you have to be careful of two potential pitfalls:
1. Charity is not a sufficient method to resolve the problem.
2. You have to be careful in the act of charity not to be self satisfied. It is possible to wish the poor to stay in a position of subservience to generate that feeling.

I believe hat is what Christ meant when he said the poor will always be with us.
We can consider the problem or fall back, with Sam, on pithy quotes.

But it is a considered view and not one I have any reason to back away from.

Baysider said...

Thanks for sharing this and really connecting the dots! While I've read much of this before, including the excellent biography of Obama by David Freddoso, it's quite interesting to place him in the perspective of 2nd generation red diaper babies. That is, not just himself as a son of a Marxist, but Jarret, Ayers et al descending from the same toxic brew.

His mediocrity has made it quite clear since 2004 that powerful forces were angling to 'position' him upward. As an "off the rack Chicago pol" (Bill Clinton's words) he was made to order for the exceptional bag of dirty tricks used and the ruthless attitude to do anything.

No wonder the leftist ranter 'Pajama Boy' is such a perfect representative for ObamaScare. This self-described "extreme leftist [with the] views and sarcasm to win any argument while make (sic) the opponents feel terrible about themselves" went on to say "We have no morals, and we will attack you."

Perfect summary for most of those named in this Byzantine cabal. God help us!

T Krabby said...


"I believe hat is what Christ meant when he said the poor will always be with us."

Then why do we bother to continuously attempt to alleviate a condition that has no end and never will?

It's almost as futile as expecting Haiti or many African nations to gain even 3rd world status in the 21st Century. Not withstanding that the rest of the civilized 1st world has been trying for decades.

Duckys here said...

We will constantly rationalize why the situation can't be improved.

We are weak.

Z said...


YOU SAID "it does help me clarify my own beliefs however.

And at no time have i ever suggested that anyone here doesn't practice charity and at no time have I ever demeaned the idea of charity.
However you have to be careful of two potential pitfalls:
1. Charity is not a sufficient method to resolve the problem.


2. You have to be careful in the act of charity not to be self satisfied. It is possible to wish the poor to stay in a position of subservience to generate that feeling.


I believe hat is what Christ meant when he said the poor will always be with us.
We can consider the problem or fall back, with Sam, on pithy quotes.


But it is a considered view and not one I have any reason to back away from.



Z said...

Baysider; I believe that's very true.
Axelrod, Jarrett, Obama, Rahm...and the rest of them...Dept of Education, etc etc etc., they are red diaper babies and honestly think they have the high moral grounds for some of the reasons Ducky describes so well;

they really believe America's been a bad country and needs to repent

and they believe we can be the first country to alleviate poverty through hurting the middle classes

it's a scary position...and absolutely ZERO good can come from it. NONE.

but, there are libs, as you well know, who'll read these words of mine and jump to "you don't want to help the poor" , and, from there, any dialogue is impossible.

rough stuff

Impertinent said...

Guess there wasn't a church in Hawaii on Christmas Day?

"President Barack Obama and his family failed to do one thing on Christmas that many might view as integral to the Christian holiday — they didn’t go to church.

According to the New York Times, the president and family “celebrated a low-key Christmas in Hawaii this year,” but did not attend church services.

“Historically, watching the nation’s first family head to church dressed in their Sunday best, especially around the holiday season, was something of a ritual,” the Times noted. “Yet Mr. Obama’s faith is a more complicated, more private, and perhaps — religious and presidential historians say — a more inclusive affair.

Gary Scott, author of “Faith and the Presidency,” added to the paper of record that Obama “has not gone to church hardly at all, as president” and that it is “very unusual for a president not to attend” Christmas services.

Mail Online noted that the news comes on the heels of Obama urging Americans to remember the religious meaning behind Christmas.

“Every year, we mark the holiday season with celebrations and good cheer. And I should remind my girls that I like getting Christmas presents as much as anybody,” Obama said, according to Mail Online. “But this is also a time to remember the story of a child born to two faithful travelers on a holy night, long ago.”

According to Mark Knoller of CBS News, Obama has gone to church 18 times during his time at the White House, the Times reported."

Impertinent said...

Two rags out of the closet today...

"Happy Birthday, Chairman Mao' — From CNBC and the New York Times"...

The fascination with and excuse-making for long-gone communist dictators responsible for the murders of millions during their reigns is a long-standing phenomenon.

Both CNBC and the New York Times continued that hoary tradition last week. Each headlined reports on the 120th anniversary of the birth of Mao Zedong (whose name was written as Mao Tse-Tung until about two decades ago) with "Happy Birthday, Chairman Mao!" headlines.

They have no shame...but their goals are clear.

Duckys here said...

@Imp --- Guess there wasn't a church in Hawaii on Christmas Day?
You were under the illusion the family is church going Christian?

I know, I know he went to Reverend Wright's church every Sunday for twenty years, mustang has the data.

Well Wright made him black enough and Harvard made him white enough and he cynically played that card.

Duckys here said...

Baysider, I put down the challenge once again.

Which of his policies are Marxist?

*chirp* *chirp*

Duckys here said...

A yes, z, the good old days.

We had strong industrial unions then also. Did that have anything to do with it.
Non profit health insurers.

The environment was quite dissimilar.

... and when we disband Social Security and Medicare as the Pete Peterson crowd desires, the wealthy will fill the gap with their charity? Come on, think this through.

Baysider said...

Marxist policies, Ducky?

He’s marinated in a Marxist stew, along with his Chi Pals, for his whole life. That thought informs his thinking and his world perspective, and it energizes his instincts and his reflexes. Virtually every policy springs from this discoloration. With the help of a compliant media and an increasingly ignorant populace he makes concepts more appealing by synthesizing them with shopworn Bismarkian impeti he’s put back on life support.

Some quick thoughts:
1) Uber-materialistic view that clings to the view that money, not character, is what’s missing from a huge underclass (Charles Murray’s ‘Fishtown-ers’). Leading to….

2) Income ‘inequality’ (the newest rant) with schemes for redistribution (Obamacare, poorly conceived housing loans for 2 examples).

3) Central planning on steroids (one-size-fits-all health insurance in an interim step to the single payer system Obama’s been advocating for years).

4) Uber-class conscious perspective that does not consider the merits of individual actors

5) Deriding people who take ‘surplus value’ from the workers or, by extension, government grasp (implying biggest profits don’t belong to the biggest risk takers).

6) Impetus to supersede private ownership with state ownership of the means of production (just can’t help himself, like to Government Motors, e.g., which under Obama’s leadership of government control saw fit to break with law and precedent to confiscate a year of my retirement to pay off his pals)

7) Who can forget Julia (I want the government taking care of every aspect of my life from cradle to grave)

8) or ‘Forward’, the Marxist cognate slogan from past to present borrowed by the 2012 Obama campaign.

Like Bismark, and the Soviet masters of the Kremlin, the president prefers to ‘rule’ by a strong, well-trained loyal elite that answers to his drum, and is deaf to all others.

Obviously, Mr. Obama is no lone ranger in this devilish downward spin, only the man at the point of spear.

Kid said...

Duck, Please make Mustang an operative of kim jon un, And I'll give you the standard 6 degrees of separation rather than 3. Talk about talking shit. You're the poster boy.

Z said...

Imp; kind of 'sweet' of the NY Times to compliment this family as somewhat BETTER and MORE INCLUSIVE in their religiosity because they DON'T (GOD FORBID) GO TO CHURCH!!
“Yet Mr. Obama’s faith is a more complicated, more private, and perhaps — religious and presidential historians say — a more inclusive affair."

That cracked me UP. Now we compliment, make them seem more erudite if they don't lower themselves to putting on Sunday best and going to church.

And, really...who'd care except for the promise of THE OBAMAS about immediately finding a church when they came to Washington? :-)
Ducky, that wasn't OUR illusion; it's just another lie.

Z said...

Baysider; good job on the Marxist policies....
Imagine any American president deciding THIS YEAR WE ARE GOING TO TACKLE INCOME INEQUALITY.

What does that mean, exactly? So the Pres of General Motors should make what the Starbucks Barrista makes? :-) Don't reward people for hard work, or better educations, right? they don't deserve it. (sarcasm)


Kid said...

Dave Miller. Actually I find your request for link reasonable. BUT-
I've heard
-obama has a SS # from a state he never lived in
- has a race classification on his BC of African-American when No On used that term. It didn't exist in the 60's, the term was negro. The BC has further been determined to be BS by Qualified people.
-obama has no one coming forward to testify that he either taught or attended classes at harvard.
-both he and michelle surrendered their law licenses upon taking on the run for the white house.
-the only video of barry at harvard has him protesting whitey with black power theology people.
-video of the obama's sitting around listening to the Rev Wright and others exists.
-obama is on video talking about his 'muslim faith', immediately prompting him to say Christian faith is some media whore.
-obama has known ties to radical muslims
-CAIR has a back office in the white house. Their leaders have logged more visits to the white house than any other person or group.
-obama as bought a seat in the senate where he voted present on anything and everything so as to remain totally undeterminable during any future political campaigns.
-his efforts as 'community organizer' consisted of getting a bunch of black folks free money by claiming they were disenfranchised farmers, when not a one of them can show any evidence of ever trying to be a farmer.
-obama is a non-person in the context of how he's been billed and propped up by a democrat communist media.
-obama is a very real person in the context of what he's done to aid the enemy - muslims, and what he's doen to destroy America's foundations.

And this is the snowflake on the tip of the iceberg.

It's all very obvious to anyone with any capacity for critical thought. I won't be posting links, because they'd be useless for people who don't have a capacity for critical thought. I won't be tasked that way.

If you want to look into these things, then great, it's not hard to do. If you don't, me or anyone else posting 1000 links isn't going to do Jack but Task the person posting the links for no gain.

Specifically, if you're (any anyone) not interested in researching these things, then live with the consequences and don't come back bitching about them either.

Personally,I don't see any other destination for America but major pain so that the disbelievers learn and change. I'm already committed to it and planning for it. While I do care about other people, I find I don't care so much about those people playing a part int he destruction of the greatest country ever on Earth that I would spend my time trying to tutor them. Sow, Reap. That simple. You seem young enough that the reaping is gonna get your attention.

Kid said...

Dave Miller.
How about obama making his Flagship fix for the economy the 'shovel ready jobs'

This is not trivial. It is and was the Pinnacle Issue. obama even said it was (as a crutch) "This is the worst economy since the great depression" (It wasn't or isn't but still), and his FIX for the Biggest Problem in America is his shovel ready jobs.

Get what I'm saying?

Then what last year? after being in office for 4 years and getting re-elected, he's on National talk show TV and he is Laughing about the fact that there were "Never any Shovel Ready Jobs".

I have to ask, What does it take to get under the skin of a liberal. Seriously. Tell Me Please how hard someone has to rape you with a telephone pole before your little eyes pop open and you even meekly ask "Why are you not helping America" "Don't you care barry?"

I am literally dumbfounded at how much incompetence and lying and screwing it takes to get the attention of a liberal. Does he have to come to your house, beat you to a pulp, then take your house and home before the lightbulb flickers on?

Are you a taxpayer as well? That would be Fascinating as Spock would say.

Duckys here said...


Some quick thoughts:
1) Uber-materialistic view that clings to the view that money, not character, is what’s missing from a huge underclass (Charles Murray’s ‘Fishtown-ers’). Leading to….

Worth considering. That has merit but it isn't peculiar to Marxism which makes the association with the means of production.
It also has little to do with Obama who has been quite docile about allowing social cuts under the sequester.

2) Income ‘inequality’ (the newest rant) with schemes for redistribution (Obamacare, poorly conceived housing loans for 2 examples).

Concerns about income inequality are new? Don't be foolish.
Was Obama responsible for the unregulated loans by the likes of Countrywide and Ameriquest?
His good friend Deval Patrick, governor of Massachusetts, was a cheap pimp on the board of Ameriquest pushing UNREGULATED mortgages for profit.
He was enriching himself at the expense of minority borrowers. Some redistribution

3) Central planning on steroids (one-size-fits-all health insurance in an interim step to the single payer system Obama’s been advocating for years).

I certainly hope it's a step towards the more efficient single payer but the private for profit insurers probably have their fangs in too deep.
Did Obama make ANY effort to implement single payer?

4) Uber-class conscious perspective that does not consider the merits of individual actors


5) Deriding people who take ‘surplus value’ from the workers or, by extension, government grasp (implying biggest profits don’t belong to the biggest risk takers).

6) Impetus to supersede private ownership with state ownership of the means of production (just can’t help himself, like to Government Motors, e.g., which under Obama’s leadership of government control saw fit to break with law and precedent to confiscate a year of my retirement to pay off his pals)

GM has been divested. You blame Obama for running GM into the ground, not GM management?
Now if the government were nationalizing entire industries you might be on to something but a deregulated Enron is a better example of the American economy

7) Who can forget Julia (I want the government taking care of every aspect of my life from cradle to grave)

Julia? Anyway your comment is pure hyperbole. Utter nonsense.

8) or ‘Forward’, the Marxist cognate slogan from past to present borrowed by the 2012 Obama campaign.


Duckys here said...

@kid -- Actually I find your request for link reasonable. BUT-
I've heard
You mean the waves got through the tinfoil? And you're not worried it's the U.N. broadcasting?

Z said...



You will just NEVER understand, will you.
You keep yammering and insisting you're right, when the basic values and knowledge of most of us here is so different than yours.

Yes, you lefties ARE WINNING because you've insisted on so many Americans feeling entitled and expecting 3 Obama phones, free health care, open borders, etc etc...but that isn't healthy for this country; do you understand?

What's the use......good luck arguing with Baysider; I can't even say you've met your match because I know her personally and she's light years ahead.

good try, but no cigar, Ducky. Good luck on that.

And, by the way..Conservatives didn't make Julia up...YOU guys did.


JonBerg said...
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Z said...

JonBerg...I TRULY don't like to sound as mean and angry as I do with Ducky and some others, but MAN, they hit nerves, don't they?

There is something so much more basically different between good conservatives and good democrats; I have asked you readers so many times and we've taken stabs at it, but it's something elusive and until we figure that out, I don't see any help in sight for getting along better and finally putting AMERICA first again.

JonBerg said...

That reminds me of the ultimate Liberal, I once knew. This idiot who held a degree in (of all things) Accounting but, also a Masters in Psychology actually thought that [everyone] and I mean everyone, janitor or Brain
Surgeon should make the same salary, per hour, fees or whatever he deemed equal. There should be "Open Season" on Liberals, Socialists and Communists. They are more dangerous than any plague that has ever threatened mankind!

December 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Baysider said...

Ducky, please read and represent our comments accurately.

FORWARD: It's long historical association with lefty socialist and communist publications include many foreign cognates in Italian, Portuguese, Finnish, Hungarian, Czech, and German including the 19th century Vorwaerts for which Engels (as in 'Marx and Engels') wrote.

GM: Do I blame Obama for running GM into the ground? What nonsense! Not even implied in my comments. His sin was the illegal transfer of wealth from me (and many others) to his union pals as his crew stomped over bondholders (legally in first place for payment) to Shanghai our money into the hands of his buddies.

Concerns about redistribution of wealth are decidedly NOT new. The idea pre-dates Marx by eons. New? Not said, not implied by me. Obama's December rant, and with the term re-born as 'income inequality' presented from the presidential bully pulpit, IS.

Kid said...

This is not hard. IF everyone can have a 'good life' without putting any effort in, many people won't put any effort in.

It's like rowers aboard a sailing vessel. If every rower eats well regardless if they put any effort in, no one rows anymore and the ship doesn't go anywhere. Given there are predators waiting outside And inside our borders, we soon cease to exist.

Is it really that had to understand this stuff libtards ???

Duckys here said...

That reminds me of the ultimate Liberal, I once knew. This idiot who held a degree in (of all things) Accounting but, also a Masters in Psychology actually thought that [everyone] and I mean everyone, janitor or Brain Surgeon should make the same salary, per hour, fees or whatever he deemed equal.
I call bull. Total lie but it does represent a misconception that's common on the right.
The right spends a lot of time on what they think the left believes.

Duckys here said...

GM: Do I blame Obama for running GM into the ground? What nonsense! Not even implied in my comments. His sin was the illegal transfer of wealth from me (and many others) to his union pals as his crew stomped over bondholders (legally in first place for payment) to Shanghai our money into the hands of his buddies.

Ah, here we go. Baysider took a haircut. He held some bonds and expected his holdings were risk free.
So the management of GM runs the company into the ground and you cry foul because YOU took the haircut.

You expected the bonds were secure, risk free and you still try to call yourself a capitalist.


JonBerg said...


Yes how true!


Have you received your share of the ROI that Government Motors (GM) is supposed to have created and returned to the tax payers, or are you waiting for it to come from the >70% of their, total, business (production) which takes place, Off-Shore? Well, I'm still waiting for mine!

Z said... Baysider's comments more carefully then respond, please.

And are you calling JonBerg a liar? I've known liberal nuts like that, too. Or do you want to call us both liars?

James Highlander said...

Dave Miller said...
Really? You'd like to discuss the points, but us libs are only granted entrance with links? And then those links must address the whole thrust of each point?
You've provided no links to buttress any of these points

Well, how nice......another arrogant liberal. obozo has interfered with foreign govts to the point where he helped take down someone not belonging to a terrorist group, only to install someone from a terrorist group.....which is part of the reason why Benghazi took place. The deficit is NOT cut in half. The only reason DOW and NASDAQ look so good is because the Fed continues to print money, on obozo's approval......and every time there is a threat that the Fed will stop printing money, the DOW and NASDAQ fall at least 300 points. Not to mention the fact that most working class people are STILL having problems five years after obozo took office.....the very people he said he was going to protect. Too bad that he heaped numerous taxes upon the middle class. Terrorists have attacked us in several areas, with the most recent at the Boston Marathon.....which never really should have taken place, except for the fact of obozo's incompetent administration. Oh, and then he used the IRS to intimidate and harass people who oppose his policies. That's just for starters

Remember Ben Gazi said...

Ducky and Save, I have one more question for you two libtards... Did Bush try to cover up any of the attacks on Our embassies??..... I didn't think so....

Remember Ben Gazi said...

Sorry, I missed typed.

I meant to write:

Ducky and Dave, I have one more question for you two libtards... Did Bush try to cover up any of the attacks on Our embassies??..... I didn't think so...

Our WorldAs We See It said...

Íve been reading these NY Times Benghazi articles for a few days now. It’s been a year and a half since the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi which killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, and the question is why didńt the Times go to the PIAPS, aka Hillary Clinton who was the single, most knowledgeable source regarding Benghazi details in order to provide the most definitive and accurate information.
In their “attempt” to provide a thorough investigation regarding the cover-up question. They seemed to miss seeing the forest through the trees. An interview with the POS would be have customary and expected. Such an omission reveals their agenda to help the cock and Bull story we have already heard. .
It was a coordinated attack from Al Qaeda, it is completely false to say anything else.
Hillary Clinton wants this to go away, and so does Obama. Hillary Clinton needs to be held accountable. But will that happen. No! . By now we already know President Obama is a liar.

In other words, The heck with our integrity ... Just Protect Queen Hillary

Baysider said...

Ducky, please respond when you learn more about how financial instruments work, or will admit you know. You're embarrassing yourself!

Investment returns are based on risk and, usually, the lower the return the lower the risk. In a financial reverse general bondholders (lenders) get paid back ahead of stockholders (owners). (Certain classes of bonds are excepted, but that's rarer.) My low risk, low return bonds were first in line to be paid. That's law and precedent. But they weren't. Instead, the Obama administration wedged the GM team into levering my money into the pockets of his pals. Hah! There you go -- THE CHICAGO WAY.

Why is this one of the most momentous disasters of the Obama team? Of course we were upset to lose a year's worth of income. But THIS action telegraphed to the entire world investment system that the Obama administration will run roughshod over the rule of law. They picked a way to announce it that was sure to get the notice of every entity with cash to invest: YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES WILL BE BECAUSE OBAMA WILL CHANGE THEM ON A WHIM.

The consequence: billions of dollars were sidelined, sitting in cash, uninvested, not making new jobs, not giving economy recovery because the owners of those dollars didn't want to risk a marxist-like appropriation of their money through another fiasco like GM.

Anonymous T. Irrelevant said...

Bloggers from both political sides may take different positions, but they all still seem to
(or are beginning to) hate Obama.
I guess more accurately the question should be why do some people hate President Obama? He was elected by a large margin of electoral votes so there are definitely a lot of people on the left who still like him. But that said! Why All this Drama Over Obama?
Did he murder somebody, no, rape somebody, no, rob a bank, no, commit an act of terrorism? No! No he didn't do any of those things. But what he did do, is to lie to the American public from day one to yesterday, and he will be lying some more tomorrow. ..
All through the presidential campaign there were people protesting his candidacy, calling him a traitor, a socialist, a communist, a Muslim or an Arab, which to their minds were all bad things but was any of this true? Maybe some were and are, who really knows? But they still persisted in spewing their hatred toward him.
You had the so-called birthers attempting with all of their might to DE-legitimize his presidency saying that he couldn't be president because he wasn't born in the United States.
At many of the so-called town halls meeting, angry protesters carried caricatures of the president as Adolf Hitler as well as other offensive racial images of him to show what a horrible person they think he is! But what had President Obama done to make them view him as Hitler or as someone who was the same type of person as Hitler?
Did they do the same to George Bush? You bet they did, and they did so in spades.
Then there was the healthcare scare. Obama is going to kill grandma! Obama pronised that he was going to 1. Lower the cost of Healthcare. 2. He promised that If you liked your plan you can keep your plan!
3. If you liked your Doctor, you could keep your Doctor. Of course there is no need to answer any of those quotes are there? There wass no way this could have worked from the git go.
Obama can do no good. He could walk on water, bring the dead back to life, wipe out world hunger, bring peace to the world and they’ll find a way to find something wrong with what he did. Because it’s not about what he did. It’s about what he is. And what is he? He is most definitely a liar and a Socialist, there is no doubt in my mind about that!
We are ORDERED by the government to get health insurance! Socialist? You bet! And since Obama is a consistent liar, I dońt believe him when he denies being a socialist.
As for the sudden rise in the stock marker, Heck yes the stock market is doing well the government is buying to float it - you cańt lose in the short term. But it́s with printed money. Look at the hard facts - people on government assistance, below poverty, and unemployed or underemployed. Elected officials, liars and thieves. And as fir Healthcare or Obamacare, he screwed up from the very first day that they launch Obamacare. Shall I continue, OK, I’ll make it short. The Unaffordable Careless Act
"You didńt build that" "It́s good to spread the wealth around", Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett. Bill Ayers, Occupy Wall Street, The Muslim Brotherhood, The Red Line with Syria, Getting involved with Lybia, Egypt, Africa, Enormously Expensive Vacation for his Mooching Wife, Getting involved with Private matters, like the Professor Gates, and Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman case, Passing on the keystone pipeline, Calling the Tea Party racists, Calling our Vets, Domestic Terrorists, Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits, Promising to close Gitmo — failing to do so, Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to his various Czar positions, Bowing to Arabs, Having a Cabinet full of social democrats and had one avowed communist, and many Tax cheats as well. All of this and those Imbecile Progressives Libs re-elected him to a second term in office.
Thanks a lot you imbecile progressive leftist Democrats!
Nuff said.

Right Klik said...

The Progressives say that due to the NY Times "investigation" we should apologize for slandering President Obama, Secretary Clinton, and Susan Rice!

Have you ever heard such crapola in your life? My bullshit meter is running off the charts....

JonBerg said...


"I call bull. Total lie but it does represent a misconception that's common on the right.
The right spends a lot of time on what they think the left believes."

If I wanted you to believe or like me I'd be far more stingy with the truth! "Jack" did/does exist and, indeed, professed the absurdities that I recounted, on more than one occasion. The fact that you seem incredulous with this is somewhat surprising!

Z said...

James, welcome, sir.
Also, yes, he was going to protect the middle class, but all it seems like he's doing now is hurting us all...all small businesses are hurting, people who were happy with their insurance are kicked off and need to lower themselves in the way of the ACA, deficit's up...etc etc.
Of course, economists today are RAVING about 2014's economic forecast and all I can say is I HOPE THEY'RE RIGHT.

Ben Gazi: That is EXACTLY what I asked above when faced with the "Bush had deaths at embassies, too!" We all are realists; that is GOING TO HAPPEN, but there were no cover ups...this is NUTS, what's happening today with Benghazi.

Our World...
You're so right...PROTECT HILLARY

what bunk.

ATI; well said.

Baysider: I knew you could explain to poor Ducky. Thanks for that.
And I AM SO SORRY for the loss of your're not alone, are you. And I know you and Mr. Baysider are VERY careful and was a tad embarrassed to see Ducky's treatment of you...but excited to hear your comeback. You didn't let me down!

JB...ditto to you. I don't approve of commenters calling other commenters liars; I'm apologizing for Ducky. I NEVER EVER lie here and don't expect my good commenters to, either...why Ducky suspects so many of it is telling and sad.

Hi, RightKlik! When are you bringing your good blog back?
You are NOT going to apologize? (smile) ME, NEITHER! And today, the NYTimes publisher hunkered down standing by the lies! amazing...but, people hear and don't question when they're leftists and the ideology goes their way :-(
My heart breaks for those SEALS and our ambassador and their families.

JonBerg said...


"why Ducky suspects so many of it is telling and sad."

Hey, no apology necessary; desperate people say desperate things!


donnies thoughts said...

Fortunately, Dave. Thank God I don’t need the Affordable Care Act thing. But there are people far less fortunate than myself who do and I am happy to see them get the help they need. I am far from idealistic and KNOW truth and honesty when I see it. It is obvious to me that you don’t. Sorry about that

Dave, perhaps you need to be a therapist to see you are totally delusional when it comes to your understanding of politics and Obama.
It has already been scientifically proven that liberalism is a mental disorder. Don’t believe me ? Google it.
I’m still waiting for you to tell me something you think Obama and his regime has done that is positive for this country.
Need more time ? No Problibom take all the rime you need. But tell me are you always so forward and mouthy with your comments…trying to act superior ? You know, that’s a sign of a person with an inferiority complex. Maybe a therapist will be able to help you while you are helping me!!!
How I love to engage progressives’s in political debates, it’s much like talking about Michael Vick killing dogs.

Conversations Over Dinner with a Brainless Liberal said...

Right Klik said...
The Progressives say that due to the NY Times "investigation" we should apologize for slandering President Obama, Secretary Clinton, and Susan Rice!

Apologize? Are you kidding? Don’t hold your breath waiting for that apology Missy.
Have you ever heard them apologize for any of their travesties/injustices/criminal activities? The answer is no, they will simply try some sort of distraction/feint in view of next year’s mid-terms, then after the election they will double down. It’s not in the liberal mind set to admit they’ve made a mistake because, in the liberal mind set, they don’t make mistakes.
Btw, When will the liberals to apologize for electing and re-electing Obama?

Had Enough Yet? said...

1. Black Panther Voter Intimidation Case Dropped and Perps Let Off Scott Free.
Also ACORN’s and SEIU’s Scandalous Behavior, Encouraged and Intentionally Over Looked by Obama Administration.

2. Declaring The Fort Hood Terrorist Attack “Work Place Violence”.

3.The Solyndra Debacle. Millions of Tax Payer Dollars Flushed Down The Obama Hole.

4. Fast & Furious

5. The IRS and NSA Scandals and Cover Ups.

6. Obama’s Forged Birth Certificate and Selective Service Registration Card Used to Deceive the Public.

7. The Benghazi Lies and Cover Up.

8. Appointing Muslims with known ties to the Muslim Brotherhood to the Obama Administration.

9. Obama Repeatedly Telling Lies To Pass Obama Care.

10. Obama Wasting Hundreds of Millions of Dollars of Tax Payers Money to Build a Government Website that does not Even Work!!!

How Much Worse Can It Get?

JonBerg said...

Had Enough Yet?......

Well, you're off to a good START!

Pope of Grenich Village said...

Vladimir Putin has vowed to pursue terrorists to their “total annihilation”, in his first public comments since the Volgograd suicide bombings.

In his traditional New Year's Eve address, which was broadcast at midnight from the Far Eastern city of Khabarovsk, (5pm in Moscow), he praised Russia’s unity in the face of both terrorism and natural disasters and promised to continue an unrelenting fight against the bombers.

Why Can't Our Commander-In-Chimp Grow Some Nuts
Like Vladamir Putin?

Liberalmann said...

JonBerg said...

Had Enough Yet?......

Well, you're off to a good START!


A list of wingnut lies and discredited bullshit in one place! And one of the more absurd ones I've seen. Thanks, lol!

Kid said...

Dave Miller, see you're ignoring me again. Valid questions. Valid arguments. None of obama's information is public. None.

What do you think about that in Itself for your president.

It is another way to verbalize Conservatives right to demand links over and above liberals and democrats.

Everything I wrote is easily accessible on the internet. I dare say Common knowledge.

Add 'Had Enough Yet' points and there is some more glaringly transparent evidence we have a president and political party in office who abuse the citizenry beyond description.

I could have literally written/recorded some lie or other American or Christian abuse perpetrated by obama at least to the tune of 1 to 3 a day.

I simply don't want to make MY life about obama. The POS gets the least amount of free space in my brain as possible. Nevertheless, he hasn't made a single promise, starting with the campaign in 2006 that is true.
This is acceptable to you? to democrats?

It is the Executive Branch - which means Execution. Preferably Flawless Execution. Statements like give him some time - he's trying - etc, while not only untrue, are totally Invalid about a president.

And remember, he was ready to "hit the ground running" and tool 9 months to put a fookin Cabinet together?

Good Lord. Can you IMAGINE what the output of the media would be if Bush was this incompetent and opaque ???

Well, I have zero hope of getting through to any liberal. I will at times remind them of their insanity..

Z said...

Pope; I agree with you and was just thinking about it before I came to the blog. It'll be REAL interesting to see how Putin takes care of the terrorist problem.
They're Muslim terrorists, but now the news is painting them as "homegrown terrorists," suggesting their Russians. of course, they're RUSSIAN MUSLIMS or Occidental Muslims who are BORn in Russia, but the media's already in the 'hide this' mode, isn't it.

Kid; I often say that...imagine what the media'd do to Bush if we knew so little about him or if he pulled 1/300th the CRAP Obama's pulling? MY GOSH!

Pope of Grenich Village said...

The New York Times is being accused of publishing a whitewashed version of the attack in Benghazi that concludes it wasn't terrorism, and liberals are EATING it up...


I thought this would be a good opportunity to compile some of the graphics that have been swirling around social media since September 11, 2012 that others have created along with myself that remind Democrats that terrorism or not (and it was terrorism) Benghazi is significant for a more important reason...

They say that a Picture is worth 1000 words.

Hildergarde Hammhocker said...

Here one that will take one’s breath away.

A Fox news poll finds a majority of Republicans favor the ACA over Obamacare.

Surprise, surprise!

Hildergarde Hammhocker said...

I enjoy reading everybody's comment, except for Dave ( Blame Bush ) Miller’s. I think it’s about time that he got a new song to sing... It’s high time that The magic messiah, the savior, took some responsibility for his own actions.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said... On the Progressive’s Blog.....
the cons on the conblogs pissmoaning about obama, obamacare, ben ghazi, and everything else they're helpless to do anything about...mewling little wimps whaaa....whaaa...whaaa.

How's the Kool-aid taste Meathead! You have no idea, do you. Obviously you have never served in the military. This was a planned attack that had nothing to do with the video. Nothing.
The NYT propaganda du jour does a "Investigation." and the circus of lolberals line up to cite. Liberals think they are smart, most intelligent people think otherwise.. But then again, they have a dumbed-down constituency....

Bat Masterson said...

Idiocy On parade!
A new Gallup poll will be more bitter medicine for the Right. After a solid year of harping on Benghazi lies in an attempt to bring down both President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a new Gallup poll finds both ranked as the number one man and woman Americans most admire.

Every year since 1948, Gallup asks Americans to name the man and woman living anywhere in the world they admire most.

This year’s poll was conducted December 5-8, and for the 6th year in a row, Obama has been named the Most Admired Man. and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton named the Most Admired “Women”

Admired for what.? Being the top two world ranked liars!! They didn’t ask me or any of my friends, or even any of the people I don’t like! And noticed the Poll was taken right after New Years Eve, when everyone was STILL DRUNK! The only thing these two folks have in common is that are both great liars. Obama won Liar of the Year award, plus had 3 of the years top 10 lies of the year, and Mrs Clinton, lied about being fired on by rebels in Kosovo when Bill was president. Oh, and Mrs Clinton lies regarding Benghazi and her fish cold remarks that the 4 brave Americans were dead so what difference do it, shows folks how little this women cares about anyone but herself.

And Noticed the Progressive Clown who posted this, conveintly left out this part.

16 percent of Americans named Mr. Obama as the man they admired the most, with former President George W. Bush and Pope Francis following with 4 percent each. Fifteen percent of Americans named Clinton as the woman they admired the most, with media mogul Oprah Winfrey garnering 6 percent. Five percent of Americans named first lady Michelle Obama, and another 5 percent named former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Besides, I use to admire Jesse James, John Dillinger. John Gotti, Billy the Kid, Al Capone, Honey Boo Boo, and Gen.Custer when I was a kid

Harold Blair said...

The MOST Admired LIARS is right!


Ron Russell Conservative. said...

I saw this headline on the Progressive’s blog a bit ago....I had a good chuckle and thought, oh boy, wait until the conservative site’s see this!!
Obama and Hillary Clinton as most admired? What a joke!!!
OMG, just how stupid have we become??? These people who admires those Two lying douchebags, are the same people that brought us to this mess.

I can understand why some guys would admire Bill. After all, he slept around multiple times on his wife, yet somehow convinced her to stay with him.
Hillary, on the other hand, by not walking out on his womanizing ass, has set the women's movement back decades. Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, Vince Foster and 40 some odd people connected to her dead, Benghazi, Clintons Benghazi Circle, An ambassador, and 4 more dead including 2 former navy seals. Ron Brown killed on an plane crash. Gee, more people dead then on a battle field.

Why would anyone admire Obama? Easy, he became president of the United States without accomplishing anything of worth. He can lie to the American people and totally get away with it. I can't even tell a white lie to my wife because I'm just not a good liar. Obama brings the meaning of "lie" to a new level!
So much for polls being reputable, they may as well had voted for Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan. What's to admire? They're both self-serving liars!
The real losers are the dolts that admire them.

The Political Chic said...
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The Political Chic said...

President Obama is the most admired living man among American’s are you kidding me?
If he is, then why are his approval rating so low? Do we have a problem with the accuracy of the polls? Did our Chief Executive do something that boosted his popularity while I was asleep? LOL this is HILARIOUS!

Just saying said...

A Picture is Worth a Thousand Grimaces!
I've always believe the resemblance between Michelle Obama and Aunt Ester from Sanford and Son was remarkable.
The Moocher should learn that First Ladies should be rarely seen and never heard from. We didn’t elect First Ladies!

LOL said...

Mr. Obama. The most admired lair in America....

Anonymous said...

President Obama is the most admired living man among American’s?

Is this for real? Can people really be that stupid?