Wednesday, July 25, 2012

A doctor and Obama Care...........authenticated, by the way

... Dear Mr. President:

During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with a popular R&B ring tone.

While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as "Medicaid"!

During my examination of her, the patient informed me that she smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer.

You and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health care? I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses.
Rather, it is the result of a "crisis of culture", a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based on the irresponsible credo that "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me."

Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care difficulties will disappear.


I thought this was well worth consideration.........I imagine you do, too.    The question is HOW DO WE DO THAT?


Rita said...

Just heard word of an earthquake out your way. Hope everyone is safe.

Joe said...

There is none so blind as he who will not see.

President BO (the child president), congress, the courts and liberals in general will not see the solution.

Their only response is to confiscate more money from the people and spend at a higher rate than ever.

ObamaCare is the prime example, but so are Medicaid and Medicare.

Both are as wastefull as it gets.

Silverfiddle said...

The good doctor has hit upon a fundamental truth. People will act irresponsibly with other people's money.

It's as true on Wall Street as it is in out welfare state underclass.

Joe Conservative said...

Moral Hazard, thy name is Democrat!

Sam Huntington said...

Social programs provide something for politicians to do: notably, spend our money. Otherwise, politicians would be unemployed or, as likely, serving long sentences in state prisons.

Here's what I don't understand: why aren't the states suing the federal government over its unconstitutional encroachment of states' rights? Health and human services is something that very clearly belongs to the states, or to the people —not the federal government.

Ducky's here said...

ObamaCare is the prime example, but so are Medicaid and Medicare.

Both are as wastefull(sic) as it gets.


What paid for your hip replacement, Joe?

Jarhead said...

What a shock!
Well, he promised he will change this country. Thats and he did and what he is doing it. The real fools here. are the idiots who voted for him. But unfortunately we got him as well.

This creepy president named Barack Hussein Obama has a miserable record of failures now All the public can remember him for is his vacations, his hip hop parties, his and his wife the Mooche's overspending, race baiting, lying, and taxing. We knew he lied through his teeth to get elected in 2008. I hated this fraud, this creep, this corrupt clown and the people he pals around with, and surrounds himself with. from day one..
But the brain-dead libs and the Progressive dingbats will vote for him no matter what. There is nothing he can do to discourage their vote. Nothing except maybe take away their free-bees. .

And by the way, Boehner a real disappointment. He needs to go also.

Always On Watch said...

Tammy Swofford, who worked for years as a nurse, tells me that this kind of thing happened all the time where she worked.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if liberals think the VA is a good example of government provided health care?

Ducky's here said...

"all the time". That's certainly specific.

Not that this doesn't happen but while the fringe right is sitting around bitching and moaning they might want to make sure they are acting on solid fact rather than hearsay.
This is the source of our health care cost problems? You sure?

Tammy blows more out of her butt than a Mexican drug mule so be careful, AOW.

Z said...

Rita, you just confirmed it for me and so I went to GOogle before finishing this comment!
I was awake at 3:15 AM or so and brother, it was hard but fast (thank goodness!) Everyone is very safe, thanks.

Joe...They are wasteful, aren't they.

Ducky, maybe you didn't read the post, but Joe's right. He said they're wasteful and don't see the solution, not that they don't work and that many need this help. is a fundamental truth and I TOTALLY believe our leftwing teachers have promoted this soft, entitled, grabby American with their union mentality.

Joe Conservative; good one!

Sam...they may not be suing yet, but we're hearing a lot of opting out of federal programs.

Jarhead, we needed someone much cannier, cagier, as sneaky as the Left, than Boehner, you're right. He will go, I feel.

AOW, if Chuck is Right would rematerialize, he'd share stories (WHERE IS OUR CHUCK? I"M WORRIED...HE'S BEEN GONE FAR TOO LONG TO HAVE ONLY BEEN ON VACATION AND HE"D HAVE TOLD US!) and our Brooke probably has stories like this.
Sure,some Americans can afford the gold teeth and tattooes and first-rate cell phones and shoes, but..."we don't want to buy health ins., Obama will pay!" :-)

Cson Fire...I think they absolutely do, and if that's the case, we are all in HUGE TROUBLE.

Radical Redneck said...

ABC and the MSM are really pathetic. They ignore ALL stories that make this amateur president look bad or tell the TRUTH and then turn around and PRINT lies about Romney. We have no reporters or news agencies any more (except for Fox, Drudge, The Blaze and Breitbart, who actually GO LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH). I am really sick of even reading all the lies they print every single day.
People like Shaw Kenawe will never say anything negative about O’Bama.
These Progressive commies people are hopeless..
If you want a total welfare country, vote for O’Bama. If you want to tell you children that they can’t do anything on their own, they need government support, vote for O’Bama. If you want to wait for months and months to see a doctor or years to get an operation you need, vote for O’Bama. I don’t want an America like that, and I’ll vote for Romney.
But if you can ignore all the money O’Bama has WASTED on green companies, stimulus packages that did not work, lavish vacations, etc. etc., then yes, you deserve O’Bama!!: But if you are just another Liberial who doesn’t want to hear the TRUTH, the by all means vote for the skunk...You are Pathetic!

Steve said...
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Lisa said...

not to mention all the baby mamas popping out kids on the taxpayer dime.
Health care,food stamps ,housing subsidies,grants, OH MY! The more you subsidize something, the more you get of it, and the more you tax something, the less you get of it.
Obama's Model for the country

Radical Redneck said...

Steve said...

"Republiscum" Really? The NEW WORLD ORDER, AKA "One World Socialist" "The "Progressive Party of America", " Socialists International" -"Socialists, Communists and Domestic Terrorists of America"
and the "U.S. Democratic Party"

COMMUNISTS ARE TAKING OVER AMERICA, and you are playing games with words.
You idiots are Pathetic.

Steve said...

Open your republiscum mouth and leave no doubt you are a lying piece of shit

Mustang said...

Steve requires immediate intervention. Let's all hope he's not planning to attend an all night Batman movie soon.

Steve said...
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Radical Redneck said...

Steve said...

Open your republiscum mouth and leave no doubt you are a lying piece of shit

Z, you let this LIBERAL-SCUM speak like this on your blog? Shocking!

Steve said...
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Brooke said...

I worked about six years in the ER, and I've got to tell you that this goes on CONSTANTLY.

And I'm willing to bet that patient complained the whole time about the length of the wait that patients like him/her cause, and that that patient was likely there for a pregnancy/STD test, or had a simple cold and was DEMANDING an antibiotic.

Steve said...

Then you admit people should be seeing a doctor, not going to the ER for regular complaints.
Now how is that possible for the 50 million without insurance?
I know it's a tough one.

Anonymous said...

Having a bad day Strve?

Lisa said...

"Steve requires immediate intervention. Let's all hope he's not planning to attend an all night Batman movie soon.'

I hate to say this Mustang but 'LMAO"

Z said...

Steve said...
Then you admit people should be seeing a doctor, not going to the ER for regular complaints.
Now how is that possible for the 50 million without insurance?
I know it's a tough one."

NOW you see why Obama care won't work..FINALLY.

Z said...

Mustang, he's beginning to sound that unhinged. (This, from someone who presented himself as conservative at SF's blog, so unhappy we thought he was a liberal :-)

Lisa..go figure!

Elmer's Brother...I have to leave for a few hours...please delete if Steve insists on using nasty names. thanksxxx

Steve said...

NO, just ran into a bunch of lying ass holes, who even if you show evidence they are wrong, they deny it and call you names. Real troglodytes.

Silverfiddle said...

Looks like little Stevie has taken his dirty diaper off here too and started smearing poop on the walls.

Run along little Stevie, adults are trying to have a conversation here.

Z said...

SF, another one with no blog.
Another one probably paid to insult the Right.
It happens every election cycle.

Yes, he took the diapers off here...
I'm going on Moderation for a while.
no biggie, I actually enjoy it.

Z said...


I won't read the typical ravings I usually get to me while on Moderation Capitivity! I never do when I have to resort to this.
Sad the Left can't fight with facts and figures and only knows how to insult. But their leader's like that, too, so.......
Fire away, Stevie! Go tell Papa Soros you aren't making money at GeeeZ.


Steve said...

Right, hide the truth like the clear evidence I gave proving there were no WMD's, but a bimbo like you still believes it
Stupid doesn't really describe such an empty head
Moderation? What are you afraid of? The truth obliviously.
Living in the bubble is so easy for the mindless.

Steve said...

I wish you would "moderate" the lies you print

Z said...

Elbro...don't delete Steve...I changed my mind.

EVERYBODY: I really do want you to read Steve's comments because this "man" started out as belligerent but not ugly, even whining that "I'm so mad you think I'm a liberal" at SF's....
and now, as SF said, he's taken the dirty diapers off and has to resort to these comments here.

I think it's important we all understand this mind because it's what's hurting our country so badly. He's the minority but there are many like him.
No rational conversation, just insults, name calling and ugliness.

So, fire away, Steve! I can see SF's blog and geeeeZ REALLY bug you and it's kinda cute :-)

let's see what else you've got...thanks!

Louis H. said...

Steve has remarkable computer skills for a 10 year old, but his vocabulary and is age appropriate.

Steve said...

So glad I was responsible for you putting on moderation.
Free speech has a responsibility that goes with it.
Your speech is full of shit

Anonymous said...

Z, there is no sense arguing with socialist/neo-marxist lefty liberals like Steve, I my self gave that up along time ago..
It's a sure bet that debate is going to result to name calling within a couple of posts, so why bother. Liberals have become too delusional to even try to get into any sort of debate with anyway. . All liberal arguments are void of logic and intelligence, Its more like talking to a wall .

I'm sure you heard the saying, "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience."

Leticia said...

I read this through an e-mail a while back.

And I agree, why should tax payers have to pay for people that are quite capable of supporting themselves?

Just the other day I was behind a couple with kids paying with Food Stamps and with WIC. I just happened to see them loading their groceries in a very expensive GMC extended cab. Really??

If the can afford an expensive vehicle they can pay for their own darn groceries! Food Stamps and WIC are for people who truly need them.

And guess what? While I was pregnant with my 2nd child, I got laid-off and was in desperate need for food for my family and was denied. And all I asked for was for an emergency fund and didn't want anymore than that. I told them it was only to get us through that month until my unemployment kicked in.

And I found a job doing medical transcription at home. God helped me, the government did not.

This Maddening World said...

My Conservative Thoughts said...
"there is no sense arguing with socialist/neo-marxist lefty liberals like Steve, I my self gave that up along time ago"

Good point My Conservative Thoughts, I find this to be true of almost all liberals. We have the misfortune to be the victim of their rants. Libs such as TV libs, movie actor libs. News libs, political libs, comedian libs...up to and including the few libs we have on these Blogs. . I personally am pretty tired of their uppity, arrogant, lying, better-than-thou attitude towards the rest of the people they consider to be societal trash, especially conservatives who in their view are lower than whale poo.

It's just my opinion, (well, maybe a few others might also agree).

Steve said...

How gullible are you?
First I get you to turn it off, then on. Thanks for the laugh

Z said...

Steve, yes, just scared to death of YOUR TRUTH and would rather censor than face it :-)

You liberals DO have egos! Do you even realize how silly you sound?

GOod luck.

Right Truth said...

Sounds like any number of patients my hubby sees regularly in the ER. They have the latest smart phones, eat out at restaurants regularly, have plenty of money for everything else, but would never consider paying for their own health needs.

Also, they show up in the ER because they are too lazy or too busy to go to the local doctor's office, make an appointment, sit and wait their turn during the day, during normal working hours.

Right Truth

Z said...

This Maddening World, welcome!
And you're SO RIGHT.
They HONESTLY have bought all the indoctrination of schools and media and couldn't imagine their heroes aren't perfect! It's scary for our country, that's for sure.

My Conservative....thanks. I try but they don't learn. And they MUST have it their way; they really don't realize that the half of this country which doesn't agree with them isn't evil or stupid. That's a tough nut to crack. Hard headed, egomaniacal and naive. thanks for coming by.

Leticia, isn't that amazing? Here you needed help for an interim period and you couldn't get it.
Yet liberals would say to us, about the person at the hospital in my post "don't you think she DESERVES a cell phone!?" :-)
Honestly, you can't make this stuff up.
They simply do NOT GET dignity, respect, self-reliance. They go to that few who can't help themselves and accuse us of hating them...Alinsky to the bone.

And yes! You started a business! Thanks, Government!:!!

Z said...

Right Truth...
They have closed at least 2 hospitals in the LA area because of illegals breaking them down with the costs. Two hospitals closed to native Los Angelenos who pay their bills and should expect emergency services to be there for them.
The Left somehow seems to think the illegals are more worthy.
I'd hate to hate myself as much as they seem to, wouldn't you?
Is your husband an ER doc or an ER nurse like "Chuck Thinks Right" is?

And does ANYBODY know where Chuck IS? I'm so worried about him!

Always On Watch said...

I know Tammy personally.

You are wrong.

I will concede that "all the time" was inaccurate phrasing. No excuse -- except that I was having a lot going on here. I should have said "with frequency."

Always On Watch said...

I, too, am concerned about Chuck. I wonder what's going on.

Always On Watch said...

Steve requires immediate intervention. Let's all hope he's not planning to attend an all night Batman movie soon.

What a comment!

I had a similar thought but didn't come up with the incisive words. You did. Hehehe.

Steve said...

Oh so brilliant coming from a piece of shit like you

Z said...

AOW, you apologized for the term "all the time"? EVERYONE on this planet uses that phrase for anything from 'intermittently' to on a minute-by-minute basis. SOmetimes, you're too accomodating, I hate to say, my friend. :)

"I go to the beach ALL THE TIME" doesn't mean I go ALL the time.
Ducky needs the patient records and the times that that's happened ? NO. That's not rational or sane.

I'm REALLY worried about Chuck, AOW. REALLY worried about him or someone in his dear family.

Always On Watch said...

Here's an idea....Go spend 24 hours in an ER and watch what goes on. Do some field research if you doubt the veracity of this blog post.

Always On Watch said...

Well, I do like to be more precise with my use of language. I'm not sure that I exactly apologized, though.

As for Chuck, I don't know how to contact him. **sigh**

Always On Watch said...

There are actually doctors who accept no insurance whatsoever. I know one and several people who see him for their regular medical care.

This particular doctor has rates well below 30% less than regular rates. And he has diagnostic facilities as well. Cash on the barrel head -- and no waiting, either.

Steve said...

Bat shit crazy AOW
Sure, and the 50 million without insurance will be cared by that doctor
Free care for 50 million, that will work-NOT.
You republiscums don't think anything has to be paid for, thus a 16 trillion dollar debt
Just another BIMBO

Z said...

AOW, I don't know how to reach Chuck, either. Very odd, isn't it.

You would be surprised how many Santa Monica/LA doctors aren't taking ANY INSURANCE. And they're BUSY. Cash and Carry is what they're calling it.
Let's face it, most Americans can afford a doc's visit (if they weren't busy paying for tattoes, gold teeth, upscale cell phones and the latest namebrand tennis shoes and filet mignon) and really only need catastrophic care.

The media's spun the Republicans being against Obama Care as "the want to destroy it all", which, of course, isn't the case. As you know, they want to redo, revitalize, THINK before writing it, and consider everyone, not just the indigent.
Did you see where 1 out of 10 employers are now saying they'll drop insurance entirely? Apparently, the fine the Government will impose is less yearly than the premiums.
Stupid stupid stupid.

My husband's lib doc who loved Obama and was thrilled that he won, then after he looked into Obama care, yelled at Mr. Z "where are you Republicans? Why aren't you fighting this?" Ya, voted for the jerk, WE didn't.

Liberalmann said...

Typical wingnut haters (so called "Christians")judging others according to their own shallow ideals.

Z said...

Ideals of dignity and love and caring and privacy are never shallow.
SOmething the left would do well to learn. But your parents need to teach that, really.

Z said...

by the way, Lib"mann" think it's just fine to pay for someone who's spending money on tattoos and gold teeth and expensive tennis shoes and plays the system. So your friends and family who work can pay for those others?
Is that right?
Well, your parents need to teach appropriate behavior, too..and that Americans should do all they can to avoid going on the public dole.

Always On Watch said...

Bat shit crazy AOW

Oh, really?

HERE is the link. This doctors is one of many throughout the United States. Do your research.

Anonymous said...

Yo libs....Yo America haters and "progressives"'s what you have to accept and live in in the next few's the reality of what you desire America to be...unless you're "lucky" enough to be secure, insulated and apart from the chaos you have forced upon us....take a close look..."diversity" is...suicide. This example is the death of Johannesburg....a once incredibly beautiful city and a center of world commerce and might as well be Detroit ( where homes now retail for $100 bucks )..or newark..or Baltimore...or Philadelphia...or Camden...or Trenton...or LA...

Watch...look...and see what happens to a city and society that demand that they be taken care of....

Weep...for freedom.

Sam Huntington said...

Imp ... progressives don't weep on the eve of America's destruction; they rejoice.

Anonymous said...

I await equality as a White American:

American Association of Blacks in Energy
The Association of Black Psychologists
The Executive Leadership Council
Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies
National Association of Black Accountants
National Association of Black Hotel Owners, Operators, and Developers
National Association of Black Journalists
National Black Business Council
National Black Chamber of Commerce
National Black MBA Association
National Black Nurses Association
National Council of Negro Women
National Coalition of 100 Black Women
National Medical Association
National Newspaper Publishers Association
National Urban League
National Society of Black Engineers
Organization of Black Designers
United Negro College Fund
100 Black Men of America

Anonymous said...

"Imp ... progressives don't weep on the eve of America's destruction; they rejoice..."

And just what is it they..."rejoice" Sam? Do they seek a country at war...perpetually angry? Insolent and greedy? Or a country that's more divided than it has been since the demrats divided it in 1865?

Thanks Obama...thanks you shithead Jackson, Fat Al...and Makik Shabazz turd.

Anonymous said...

"Surely, blacks are not the only demographic group which chooses to associate together, and there is certainly nothing wrong with free association.

The problem is the double standard. Substitute white for black in any of the above and you would have theatrical public outcry and claims of civil rights violations.

Segregation of blacks by whites is widely regarded as one of the banes of the civil rights movement.

Yet segregation is widely tolerated when blacks choose to engage in it. Such an obvious double standard fuels racial animosity rather than soothing it.

If the goal of the civil rights movement was and remains equality and inclusion, how does such prolific segregation advance that?"

Anonymous said...

"You can’t have justice without equal treatment under the law. Yet many policy prescriptions and attitudes relating to race explicitly call for the preferential treatment of minorities.

Perhaps the most egregious example is affirmative action.

Rather than apply the same standard to all candidates for a given opportunity, affirmative action lowers or eliminates standards for favored groups.

This is insulting to all parties concerned, making experience and qualifications inferior to irrelevant political considerations. It is by definition an injustice. Yet is is tolerated and even mandated. Why?

Building on the notion of collective responsibility, affirmative action is sold as social justice.

The sins of white fathers deprived black sons of opportunity, it is argued. So white sons must cede their place to blacks.

This is not justice in any objective sense. It is an irrational vengeance exacted upon the innocent on behalf of the un-wronged. It is at best a punishment of the son for the sins of his father, and never connected to a demonstrable wrong.

What are the odds that a given white person’s ancestor committed a crime against a given black person’s ancestor? To the black racist, it doesn’t matter, because white guilt is collective, as is black entitlement."

Who else is sick of this shit and double standard?

Joe said...

Ducky: I did not say everything about Medicare was bad, but it is horribly mis-managed.

Besides, I've paid into Medicare since it came into being. And, as we all know, the government was so good at investing what I "contributed" to it that they far exceeded in income what it cost to replace my hip.

(What...they didn't invest it and grow it? Why not? That's what private insurance companies do.)

Oh, and I also have continued to pay into Medicare, even after I began receiving it AND I pay for a private suppliment plan as well.

So don't give the that, "who paid for you hip replacement?" scuz.

Ducky's here said...

Ducky: I did not say everything about Medicare was bad, but it is horribly mis-managed.

Under 5% administrative costs is mismanaged.
Private insurers are 15% and more.

Were there problems paying for your hip replacement?

Ducky's here said...

AOW, as a nation we are spending a lot of time going back and forth about who should receive medical care and who might not be worthy.

As a result we assume that high costs are a result of the poor and illegals. Well, that's certainly part of it but as long as that controls the conversation we won't get to the root and ... pay up.

Z said...

Ducky, NOBODY says someone's not worthy of medical care.
EVERYBODY is worthy of medical care.

But, there are some who can afford to pay for their care and, if someone's living pretty high on the hog otherwise, they can.

The problem is, Ducky, we normal people expect to sacrifice. If we pay for medical care, that might prohibit us from smoking expensive cigarettes (or crack) and getting gold teeth for their looks (that's not MY taste, but...), big screen TV's, great vacations or designer tennis shoes versus Keds.... and we're okay with that. Conservatives are realistic...we get that we can't have everything all at once.

Somehow, I get the impression the left wants everybody to have free medical care and to hell with the economy, to hell with ethics, to hell with the fact that people aren't getting the gratification only self reliance can give someone.

Nobody suffers in this hospitals must (MUST) help indigents.
What has to stop is people losing their homes for their medical care while indigents stick it to them.

This isn't a black/white situation, there's a lot of gray and you tend to simplify and blame.
So does our side, I know that.

Until we stop and get things straightened out in a sensible way all can at least partially agree with on health care, I"ll be paying for my neighbor; but I only want to do that when I know my neighbor and he really needs my help badly.
I don't want to pay for a neighbor who couldn't care less who spoils him rotten.

Liberalmann said...

Z said..."by the way, Lib"mann" think it's just fine to pay for someone who's spending money on tattoos and gold teeth and expensive tennis shoes and plays the system."


Lol, this and your comment about fixing our 'cultural crisis' just proves you're stupid and a racist at heart.

Law and Order Teacher said...

It's never about who's worthy, it's about who can pay. I never minded helping out those who are really in need. I object to paying for those who aren't willing to work. I've seen of few of those in my previous line of work.

It never ceases to amaze me that those of you who aren't willing to see the truth are so quick to judge those who are. When I see night after night, those who abuse the system continue to reap its benefits, it kind of wears on you.

I realize that anecdotal evidence doesn't hold water with socialists, but it is the only real research. My training in education tells me that social research is mostly made up crap propagated by politicians who are pandering to anyone in order to keep their job and power.

Academics will say anything to anyone to keep, as it was termed in the movie "Blazing Saddles," their "Phoney baloney jobs." Social research, what a joke. I'm sorry, am I ranting?

Kid said...

Sorry folks, but you're giving libtards like steve too much credit.

he/she speaks and acts like the evil 3 year old he is. Once again, a man-child who never got the discipline he needed as a child and is now out on the net looking for it.

like a good libtard, all he has are insults. The more the insult, the more he craves verbal discipline.

fwiw, the best way to deal with these children is acknowledge you've seen his comment but avoid a direct response since that's what he craves. Instead ask him about his recipe for snickerdoodle cookies. he doesn't say anything worth responding directly to anyway right?

he's not interested in or capable of rationality. trash can material really. no way for a civilized intelligent person to converse with it.

It's too bad blogger doesn't have the ignore feature that the yahoo message boards have. Someone like this shows up and you just click a button and never see him again. Until he creates a new ID and comes back begging for discipline. But another -Click- and he's off to create yet another impotent ID.

Don't let him task you, Task him. again fwiw.

Kid said...

Imp, Exactly. Black Caucus. IN Congress. What could be more diametrically opposed to a rational argument for the elimination of "racism'.

Proof positive that the "Racists" are the minorities. And the reason for it is their need to remain in 'victim status' so they can 'get more' than us good lookin white people.

There are however many black people for example who reject this. yet, it's still hard for them to cast off the 'racism' stigma.

Conservatives want everyone to be successful. Except the libtards. They need extra study hall time.

Average American said...

If you want to anger a conservative, tell him a lie.....if you want to anger a liberal, tell him the truth.

This seemed to be the PERFECT explanation for this entire thread of comments, especially the second half.

Good battle Z!

Liberalmann said...

A whiff of racism from Romney?

"WASHINGTON — The start of Mitt Romney’s foreign tour was overshadowed Wednesday by a reported remark by an aide that President Barack Obama doesn’t understand the “Anglo-Saxon heritage” shared by Britain and the United States."

Leticia said...

Z, exactly and to this day, it infuriates me that I was a pregnant mom, who had been working but was laid off due to my pregnancy and only wanted help for 1 month!! That's all.


They Say/We Say said...

Libman made the case that Obama wasn't born Here In the Good Ole USA
or he would understand the shared heritage
Swayed to jump ship Libman eludes to Obama's Kenyan background--or was it Indonesian?
It was both?

Z said...

Libmann, insults are fine (actually, knowing your character, I feel complimented when you insult)...but you never answer my questions...I'll repeat "you think it's just fine to pay for someone who's spending money on tattoos and gold teeth and expensive tennis shoes and plays the system."

By the way, 'racist'? is the person Black? If I vote for Alan West, which I would tomorrow if I could, am I racist? :=) Gee, who knew!?

Leticia, it's astonishing, isn't it. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. But, you never whine, you're just telling the facts. Pretty tough ones to hear.
I'm guessing you'd have had to leave your husband to get welfare; something the left shackled on our country and something which has meant the fall of the family and dependence on the government. ALl planned years ago ..

Law and Order.....they honestly don't want to hear any other way of thinking than that which they've been told. They seem to have zero curiosity!!!?? why?

Kid, many libs don't understand that Conservatives want all to be successful; there's some kind of disconnect. In the hope of making people dependent on the gov't, it doesn't fit the agenda

Liberalmann said...

Medicare does explain the high costs of healthcare, all charges are based on Medicare reimbursements so no one knows the actual cost of anything.

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Liberalmann said...

The government distorted the market, that's the problem

viburnum said...

Lib-mann: "Medicare does explain the high costs of healthcare, all charges are based on Medicare reimbursements so no one knows the actual cost of anything.

The government distorted the market, that's the problem

July 26, 2012 12:14 AM

Folks, note the date and time !!!

@ Lib-mann. Apparently I went on vacation and missed your epiphany. Congratulations! ;-)

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viburnum said...

Blogger is double posting again :-(

Mr. AOW said...

I see that Steve has called my wife "bat shit crazy."

She and I have been married for over 40 years.

Only I am allowed to say that about her! Ha, ha, ha.

Mrs. AOW knows a lot about the problems with health insurance. In a way, she beat the system for me. But only because she worked at it like you wouldn't believe! Most people don't have the knowledge or the TIME to fight like she does!

Always On Watch said...

Steve has just shown himself for what he really is. I need not say more.

Steve said...

Since you are a cunt, it's impossible you have never been called a cunt before

Brooke said...

I just love it when a leftist outs himself as a bigoted and more particularly, violent misogynist. What, if a female dares to disagree she must be a bitch, whore, or cunt? I guess we should just know our place, keep our eyes down and speak demurely to such a big man. I'd bet if any of us women were in the same room with Steve he'd have already struck us.

Keep it up, Steve. Keep showing us just how ugly you really are.

Steve said...

Just responding in kind to the hate and insults I received. If that's the way you want to address me, fine, I'm no prude and can play your sick game

Steve said...

You sound like quite a cunt yourself. I feel sorry for those who know you.

Brooke said...

Really? Where did anyone call you by a sexist perforative because they couldn't fence with you?

And now I'm a cunt, too? Oooh. How DARE I disagree with such a big, tough man.

Like I said, you're a violent, bigoted person all the way to the core. Sorry for those who know me? Likewise, I'm sure.

Brooke said...


I'm not sure what autocorrect was up to there!

Steve said...

Aren't smart enough to correct it yourself? Thanks for proving me correct.

Z said...

Steve, really? you were called anything close to C anywhere on the blog "Just responding in kind to the hate and insults I received"

I'm getting emails asking me not to delete you because it's comedy relief...or that people just aren't reading you, so I shouldn't bother.

Fine with me.

But, a REAL GENTLEMEN of any class NEVER uses that word toward a woman EVER. If your parents never taught you that, I'm sorry for you.'

This is a BLOG...You can't come here insulting people and expect us all to stay quiet; this isn't the network news or MSNBC...we DO have a way to combat you here.

Brooke, I'm really sorry; I know this is nothing in comparison to what you do every day and the situations you've faced, but I do apologize for classless rubes.

Somehow, Liberals feel entitled to EVERYTHING.

I can't help but remember when Huff Post had to shut down from the rejoicing over Tony Snow's death, remember? It crashed because liberals were rejoicing? I'll never forget it.
Or the comments we get when Cheney's heart's acting up...libs "hope he dies" etc?
And the contrast when Edward Kennedy died...I and all the other bloggers I know, had articles saying they didn't always agree with him but respected him and wished his family well.

I have always thought instances like this really show a great deal about the left and the RIGHT.


Z said...

Steve, are things in Bessemer so bad you HONESTLY have nothing else to do but be this ugly? I am so sorry for you, I TRULY am!

Brooke's so bright that you're really sounding just plain damned STUPID now...but if it keeps you busy and maybe brings you in some cash, keep posting on conservative sites.
Follow your leader's seems to start at the top.

Thersites said...

How many uninsured will their be under Obamacare?

In March, the CBO estimated that 27 million people would still be uninsured in 2022. It now finds that 30 million will be uninsured 10 years from now. The latest analysis takes into account the Supreme Court's June ruling that states do not have to expand their Medicaid programs, which provide health care coverage for low-income people.

Thirty million is also the number of people who are now expected to gain coverage under ObamaCare.

"Every time CBO has revisited the law, we find out that a few more million people will not be covered," said Kathryn Nix, policy analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation. "This continues the trend that the law is still going to spend over $1 trillion in taxpayer money but is becoming less effective at achieving the goals that its proponents said it would." much for Democrat Party promises for Universal Health Care...

lies...lies... and always MORE. lies.

Rita said...

Discussions at the client's office today surrounded a meeting of huge pension fund CFO's concerning their health care members that they manage. Two companies had hired big consulting firms to determine the impact of Obamacare to the insured.

One predicted 40% decline within 2 years, the other? EIGHTY PERCENT!

Where are all those insured going? Oh that's right, you can KEEP your own insurance. R.I.G.H.T!

Z said...

Rita, I hope you blog on that soon.
that's another lie our media's not telling us on a growing list from this president.

Rita said...

Listening to the guy over the health care area makes me realize this law is so much worse than any of us realize. It's been his job to keep up with all the changes and there is a ton of things in the law that no one knows how to interpret, so they are waiting on the government to publish guidelines, but of course they are not doing that because they DON'T KNOW how the damned thing is supposed to work.

Idiots writing laws regulating businesses when they have never known or tried to find out exactly how the business works. They come up with these pie-in-the-sky ideas, put it on paper, shove it down our throats with no clue how it will work or what affect it will have.

Z said...

Rita, I'm curious; was any politics shown at this meeting?
I mean the Obama lovers, and there HAD to be some there (they can't ALL be in MY neighborhood!! :-) must have weighed in..?

How'd that get handled?

Kid said...

Z, Losers don't want to be successful. Too much work.

Kid said...


I've been observing "steve's" on the internet now for 15 + years.

You are Giving him what he craves. You are rewarding him. If you reward some thing, you get more of it.

It's also called feeding the monkeys.

Ignore the child and it will go to some other venue looking for people who will feed it with shock and anger at his adolescent comments.

Rita said...

Don't offend the monkeys, Kid.

No talk of politics in the office.

Z said...

Rita, I just thought it would be nearly IMPOSSIBLE for SOMEONE not to call it OBAMA care or say "what did this guy DO to us?" It seems impossible to me, anyway...:-)

Re the Steves of the world, and they are legion (and not ONE has EVER said he's not getting paid by the DNC when I've accused them of it), I AM WISHING everybody'd ignore them but everybody else comments to them and the trolls get uglier and uglier.

I must say I wonder about men who'd use the C word and others toward women .... I wonder about the parents who should have raised them better and that they must get this kind of behavior from home AND from people like Bill Maher.

You don't see this among Republicans. And you don't see Republicans rejoicing over Democrat deaths like Ted Kennedy,e tc., tho Huff Post crashed under the weight of revelry after poor Tony SNow died so young. Or when Cheney's heart acts up or when Ducky wishes Brietbart was in a body bag (a year before he finally was, may GOd rest his dear soul)

Big differences between the right and the left, no doubt about it.
But their obfuscating and having the media cover for them is heady stuff.

I'm outta here...going to relax and have a delightful dinner with a dear friend.

See y'all later. I need a break!


Steve said...

There's a little conspiracy theory going on about everything in your pea brain, isn't there?
I've had a lot of fun making you jerks jump, rant, get pissed.
Thanks for the laughs.
You really are clueless.

Z said...

Avg. worries...(good job)

Steve, I hate to burst your bubble, but I have a lot of email friends here and, trust me, you're the one being laughed at.
NOBODY CARES, STeve...we get all your ridiculous leftwing propaganda ALL the time, day in and day's clear you can't learn and don't even want to. And you show us the typical leftwinger in your crudeness and not being able to take back what you give..tho nobody here came close to your crassness particularly toward women. WHY are you LIKE THAT?

So, you keep on spending your time on conservative blogs and keep laughing :-)
Frankly, I'm kind of glad to think you possess a shred of humor; I was worried about you. honestly.

Always On Watch said...

Possibly of use somewhere along the line.

Richard Tate said...

How gullible are you? First I get you to turn it off, then on. Thanks for the laugh