Monday, July 9, 2012

Obama uses demonstratable LIES in his TV ad...and keeps them running

Here is an Obama campaign ad saying that Romney, through Bain Capital, was responsible for sending many jobs overseas.  They cite the Washington Post as a reference.  Oops.

The Washington Post gives the Obama people FOUR PINOCCHIOS for LYING...yes, not ME, but the Liberal Washington Post. When the Romney folks saw what Obama was doing, they tried to get the truth known.  HERE is the article about that....read that carefully, you'll be amazed at what Obama tried to pull....until The Washington Post's OWN "Fact Checker" did their homework and came up with the truth.
Here's some of that.............
A better source for Romney’s behavior as an investor might be someone who actually worked on Wall Street, such as former Obama auto czar Steven Rattner. “Bain Capital is not now, nor has it ever been, some kind of Gordon Gekko-like, fire-breathing corporate raider that slashed and burned companies, immolating jobs wherever they appear in its path,” Rattner wrote in Politico this year.    Yup, Steve Rattner, OBAMA's auto czar.
Regarding the outsourcing claims, we have frowned on these before. The Obama campaign rests its case on three examples of Bain-controlled companies sending jobs overseas. But only one of the examples — involving Holson Burns Group — took place when Romney was actively managing Bain Capital.
 Regarding the other claims, concerning Canadian electronics maker SMTC Manufacturing and customer service firm Modus Media, the Obama campaign tries to take advantage of a gray area in which Romney had stepped down from Bain — to manage the Salt Lake City Olympics — but had not sold his shares in the firm. We had previously given the Obama campaign Three Pinocchios for such tactics.
The Modus Media case is also not an example of shipping jobs overseas. The company closed one plant in California and transferred the jobs to North Carolina, Washington and Utah. At the same time, it opened an unrelated plant in Mexico. The Obama campaign once trumpeted the fact that we had dinged a conservative Super PAC for making the same leap in logic.
The claim that Romney outsourced jobs as governor is equally overblown.


You see, that Romney was a 'corporate raider' is false.    So, Obama has an ad using the Washington Post as a source that Romney sent jobs overseas, but the Washington Post's own Fact Checker ends its exposure of the lie with:
The Pinocchio Test
The Obama campaign fails to make its case. On just about every level, this ad is misleading, unfair and untrue, from the use of “corporate raider” to its examples of alleged outsourcing.  Simply repeating the same debunked claims won’t make them any more correct. 

Think most Americans will only see the ad and not the truth?    You can bet on it.  And then they vote.

(thanks to Elbro for the footwork on this story)
 z

90 comments:

beamish said...

enjoy

Always On Watch said...

The propaganda war is on. Big time!

Always On Watch said...

Damn.

Say THIS ain't so!

Impertinent said...

You've got to pity the poor schlub...he can't punch above his own weight and his entire life is a Lie...he knows no other way than to BS and embellish everything he does and says.

No accomplishments...not one single successful business venture...not one real job...just a lying parasite his entire life hitched to the Black grievance train to no where.

Silverfiddle said...

Obama has outsourced hundreds of thousands of jobs thanks to squashing the pipeline and piling regulations and taxes on businesses so they can no longer make a profit here.

Always On Watch said...

I think that we should all realize that Obama is going to get away with this.

Here in Virginia, these ads are running around the clock! Mr. AOW said this morning, "Those ads really make Obama sound good and Romney sound bad."

IMO, people other than us bloggers are more influenced by television ads than it bears thinking about!

What liberal is actually reading the web sites that we do? Hell, I can't get any liberals that I know to take even a peek at certain "right wing" web site!

How many voters actually read the newspaper beyond the headlines on the front page?

We're right back to the same old problem that we discussed over and over again: PREACHING TO THE CHOIR!

conservativesonfire said...

Obama lies for a living. No surprise. Romney will have to take the gloves off and fight back. His campaign can make good use of that The Pinocchio Test photo and rub it in Obama's face.

Z said...

beamish, oops, that's exactly what he said he wouldn't do...AGAIN.

Z said...

AOW, I know....Romney's not making the case and the lies of Obama, like those in this post, aren't known.

But, I think a LOT of people will poll Obama and, in the privacy of their booth, then can go against their 'oh so cool' friends and vote like an adult, for Romney, when nobody's able to say "A REPUBLICAN?"
Don't forget, this hatred for Republicans has been set up in our schools and it's working...
That's what Romney's not even close to fighting..and he'd better.

Imp...you're right....nothing to show for himself.

SF....I spoke to a guy yesterday who has a metal finishing company for military planes (that's what I understood anyway), etc....he said he has new restrictions constantly...CONSTANTLY....if it weren't for his company being the primary provider of whatever it is he does, he'd be gone like all the other companies he knows that have been forced to leave California. All government restrictions aimed at squelching business.

AOW...oh, yes, he is...like I said in my post, most people don't know that it's a lie; imagine quoting from the Post which actually admits it's not true...and continuing to do so?

Actually, I blame the Post, too..if they had any integrity at ALL, they'd be letting this information out on a larger scale than it has. Who looks at Fact Checker?

Conservatives...Romney's just not there yet. I think he needs to throw out EVERY ADVISER HE HAS...EVERY SINGLE ONE and start over with people the likes of a James Carville and Paul Begala. Have you seen Begala's Republican brother? Very smart, very sweet...and not vicious like Paul the liberal...typical.

Lisa said...

It's definitely time for Romney to take off the gloves and expose this lying propagandist for what he really is.
What is with Romney an the republicans? Sometimes I think they want Obama to win.
They ad a protest at the Romney Find raiser at the Koch Bros Home pretending to care about the 50,000per plater dinner saying you
could support a family for a year with that money and although that is true the irony is that Moveon.org had a plane flying above with a protest sign.

Z said...

Lisa, Republicans protested the Romney fundraiser?

and moveon had a protest sign when Obama has hugely expensive dinners all the time? I believe the fundraising for Obama while President is 3 times that which Bush ever did....

And yes, sometimes I think they want Obama to win, too....I've thought that since McCain was picked and ran so haphazardly.

We could wipe their bottoms with Romney's win if we tried....if they took the gloves off; they don't need to get ugly (that doesn't go over well from Republicans because the media feasts on that and not the ugliness of Obama's campaign lies)...but they won't. They didn't with McCain and they aren't now.

ROmney needs to get independent, non campaign-weary young people and tell the TRUTH.

Impertinent said...

"It's definitely time for Romney to take off the gloves and expose this lying propagandist for what he really is..."


Never going to happen...we're about to witness John McPain round 2!

Mitt doesn't have it in him...it's all part of the Mormon DNA....just like the Quakers.

On the off chance that he does get in the liars face...watch the LSM call him disrespectful and a Raccccccccis!!!!

Holder's already explaining his criminality away with the same lame...bullshit.

Lisa said...

No Z Moveon and OWS were protesting. I read about it in our Newspapaer

Pris said...

No matter who was running against Obama, the same tactics would be used against them.

The left has no problem lying. They'll do whatever they have to, to destroy their opponents. If one lie doesn't work, they'll find another and another until one sticks.

So, let's hope that Romney takes off his gloves, and goes for it hard. A prevent defense is not as good as an offense, especially when one is up against a thug!

Z said...

Lisa, sorry, I read your original comment incorrectly...I didn't think the R's were protesting.
Astonishingly ironic that the left was :-)

Pris, if the MEDIA keeps these things to itself, protecting the president from public knowledge, it doesn't matter who the contender is, you're right.

These are scary developments I'd have thought even AMerica-loving liberals would rue.


Imp, the problem is these people are not stupid and they can mischaracterize their lies so beautifully...HOlder is Number1 in THIS class.

beamish said...

Romney wasn't above spending over $200 million smearing Newt Gingrich and Sick Rantorum.

Then again, they were opposed to Obamacare.

beamish said...
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beamish said...

"we're about to witness John McPain round 2"

You don't really believe Mitt Romney will get as much as 45% of the popular vote do you?

beamish said...

Are there that many Tea Party astroturfers?

Impertinent said...

Beamish...far as I know the popular vote...never counted in POSTUS elections.

We don't elect Presidents....the chosen delegates do.

Law and Order Teacher said...

Z,
The biggest mistake that Repubs make is worrying about what the MSM says about them. They should make their points and do so without fear of the media. Why should the candidates care what they think about them anyway.

There is nothing the Repubs can say or do to win their favor so don't bother trying. This makes be crazy. It's like trying to impress the popular kids by how you dress and act. They won't let you into their group anyway. You end up selling your soul for no reason. When will candidates wake up and get this through their heads.

These people don't like you and they want you to lose. Accept that and move on.

Most people don't watch them anyway.

Law and Order Teacher said...

Z,
Sorry, I was in a hurry and was trying to type this on the way out the door. I left out a couple of questions marks. And I meant this makes "me" crazy. I mean it!

beamish said...

Imp,

It taxes the limits of my vivid imagination to visualize Romney getting more than 18% of the popular vote.

Ducky's here said...

A pox on both of them.

What a parcel of rogues.

Impertinent said...

Beamish...I don't think it could ever get that bad....that's Mondale numbers. I think he'll get a lot of us who are fed up...again.

We really do need a 3rd party Beamish.

Liberalmann said...

Baloney. Romney made his millions by stripping companies, laying off workers and send jobs overseas. Then keep his own money n off shore accounts and won't release tax returns.

Liberalmann said...

Silverfiddle said..."Obama has outsourced hundreds of thousands of jobs thanks to squashing the pipeline and piling regulations and taxes on businesses so they can no longer make a profit here."

Wow, now there's the outright lie of the day!

Liberalmann said...
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Impertinent said...

Lib dudet...

You are a hopeless POS.

Liberalmann said...

And here's another article from the Post, lol!:

"Romney’s Bain Capital invested in companies that moved jobs overseas"

Mitt Romney’s financial company, Bain Capital, invested in a series of firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by American workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like China and India.

During the nearly 15 years that Romney was actively involved in running Bain, a private equity firm that he founded, it owned companies that were pioneers in the practice of shipping work from the United States to overseas call centers and factories making computer components, according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/romneys-bain-capital-invested-in-companies-that-moved-jobs-overseas/2012/06/21/gJQAsD9ptV_story.html?tid=pm_pop

Impertinent said...

Who wouldn't like this?

Congressional Reform Act
of 2012

1. No Tenure / No
Pension. A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no
pay when they're out of office.


2. Congress (past, present future) participates in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system
immediately.

All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.


3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.


4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.


5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same
health care system as the American people.


6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.


7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective
12/1/12. The American people did not make this contract with congressmen/women.

Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an
honor, not a career.

The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.


8. If they do not vote to balance the budget, they are not eligible for reelection.


9. Terms for HOR: 3, Terms for Senate: 2.

Liberalmann said...

I've wrong most of the time. This video demonstrates Obama's lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Liberalmann said...

When I'm on my medication I'm much calmer.

Impertinent said...

Lib dudet... you retard. You quote WAPO who their own fact check said they lied like a rug and they continue to publish the lies. Your "news" sources are a friggin criminal enterprise and about as accurate as a supermarket tabloid now. Crap....lies and more crap.

And you lap it up like a pissing little puppy licking his butt.

Liberalmann said...

Oopsy I just referenced the same article that got the four Pinocchio's. I'm a little s*it faced right now

Impertinent said...

" I'm a little s*it faced right now.."

Fess up...drinking that poison demrat koolaide will kill more than your liver...look what's happened to your brains.

Liberalmann said...

Well the pills don't help

Impertinent said...

"Well the pills don't help.."


Try more of them then.

Z said...

Blogger Liberalmann said...

Baloney. Romney made his millions by stripping companies, laying off workers and send jobs overseas. Then keep his own money n off shore accounts and won't release tax returns."

OH, for GOD'S SAKE....READ THE POST, WATCH THE VIDEO.
The liberal WASHINGTON POST SAYS HE LIED....OKAY? My GOSH!

Oh, I'm SORRY! I just read the rest of your comments and am so sorry you're drugging yourself....what's the matter?
Man, Libmann, this came out of nowhere, finally, you're seeing the truth!?

Liberalmann said...

ocasionally I have moments of lucidity

Z said...

now I KNOW you're on drugs.

beamish said...

Beamish...I don't think it could ever get that bad....that's Mondale numbers. I think he'll get a lot of us who are fed up...again.

He won't get nearly as many votes as McCain did in 2008. Americans tend to despise leftists in Presidential elections, and Romney would have difficulty convincing me he's not a Stalinist.

beamish said...

Hell, just from his being from Massachussetts I find it hard to believe Romney is heterosexual.

beamish said...

Beamish...I don't think it could ever get that bad....that's Mondale numbers. I think he'll get a lot of us who are fed up...again.

He won't get nearly as many votes as McCain did in 2008. Americans tend to despise leftists in Presidential elections, and Romney would have difficulty convincing me he's not a Stalinist.

beamish said...

Beamish...I don't think it could ever get that bad....that's Mondale numbers. I think he'll get a lot of us who are fed up...again.

I'd be willing to speculate that Romney might sway enough people to nail down 21% of the popular vote, but that's a lot of LSD to taint drinking water with.

Liberalmann said...

Beamish is my new best friend

Silverfiddle said...

@Libmann: Beamish is my new best friend

Good, maybe you'll wise up...

Z said...

Beamish and LIbmann are on the same page, wising up isn't going to happen..

Lisa said...

"Beamish and LIbmann are on the same page, wising up isn't going to happen.."
lol Z

Kid said...

Romney was going to knock obama on his working career, but Unfortunately, OBAMA DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

And as far as Romney being the 'Outsourcer in Chief" maybe obama would like to explain why GM is using Taxpayer Bailout Dollars to Build assembly plants AND R&D facilities in CHINA with obamas blessing, eliminating American Jobs in America

hell, maybe the UAW would like to explain that too since they now own 60% of G through the stock they were GIVEN after GM MADE YOUR STOCK WORTHLESS with their Bankruptcy (That WASN'T supposed to happen when WE BAILED THEM OUT WITH OUR HARD EARNED MONEY)

What say you libtard morons ?

Seriously, How does it feel to have to support such a POS in the White House for you to get your daily bread? You're really THAT pathetic?

Damn, Guess So.

Seriously. How can democrat supporters go through life knowing they are such POS's ????

Z said...

Kid, I don't get it...but they're big in number and they have our young voting kids who don't know the ending of "Give me LIBERTY or give me........"

Did you see O'Reilly tonight at all? They were at Jones Beach asking 20-somethings to fill in that phrase above...and ZILCH.

They asked who Sam Adams was and the answer was "BEER?"

they vote. They don't ask. They think the gravy train they had growing up is going to continue.

Kids and the left are going to be in for such a surprise.

O'Reilly's talking about the economy Reagan improved through lowering taxes and we've got Ducky here calling Reagan insulting names and saying the economy was a wreck then.

@#(&*(&*

Kid said...

BTW, This is where liberalman lives and posts from

;-)

Kid said...

Z, the communists took over the public schools. It's a wonder kids can tie their shoes or keep their pants up... :)

Ronald Reagan juiced the economy to the point that it was juiced through 4 years of George Bush Senior the moron, and 8 years of bubba clinton presiding over a Ronald Reagan Economy.

What else is there to say ? :)

beamish said...

I doubt I'm on the same page as Libmann. He still probably believes Ronald Reagan wasn't a welfare statist.

Z said...

Oh, I think you sound pretty alike these days, Beamish.
shudder

Always On Watch said...

Oh, I think you sound pretty alike these days, Beamish.

Ye, gods!

Inversionism!

Elmers Brother said...

Aow They oversampled Democrats by 9 percent

Elmers Brother said...

Aow They oversampled Democrats by 9 percent

Liberalmann said...

Aw, some juvenile wingut has to hijack my name because they can't take getting pwned on the facts. And isn't it funny that when those posting their crap here are shown to be liars with the facts, they resort to obscenities and insults. Typical.

RELEASE YOUR TAX RETURNS, MITT!

beakerkin said...

Who needs the Lone Ranger when Mr. Beamish is around.

"Who was that Gasmasked Man".

It was Mr B. the last American Patriot.

Liberalmann said...

Release your transcripts Obama!

Elmers Brother said...

Libdude I checked the IP addresses and all these comments that you claim are not you come from the same IP address. Z doesn't tolerate crap like this, so I suggest you cut it out.

Z said...

Thanks, Elbro...I new Liberalmann couldn't have grown up over night...
and yes, I hate sock puppets and this isn't flying, Libmann.

SAME IP...what are you trying to pull, anyway?

Z said...

RELEASE MY BLOG, LIbmann...if you think this is funny, I want you to know I don't.

Obama:

Release your transcripts
Release the truth about your friendship with Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, Malik Shabazz, etc.
Stop your Friday night appointments so the media doesn't notice.
etcetc
Release US, Obama....stop the LIES.


You stop lying, too, okay, Libmann?
We don't need your pranks here.

But, frankly, I didn't realize you had a sense of humor, so I'm giving you credit for that :-)

beamish said...

Oh, I think you sound pretty alike these days, Beamish.

Really? Isn't it you and Libmann swallowing the knee-slapper that the Tea Party is right-wing?

Z said...

isn't you and Liberalmann who slam the Right so hard?
Beamish, I don't know why you come here; you think anybody in their right mind's going to have a head-thumpin' "Gee, Beamish is right!" moment?

Ya, Romney's leftwing, the Tea Party's left wing and ONLY BEAMISH is a TRUE CONSERVATIVE. GOd.

And you'll probably agree :-) unreal

Kid said...

you think anybody in their right mind's going to have a head-thumpin' "Gee, Beamish is right!" moment?


Hahhaaaaa. There's more of that libtard paradoxical comedy. Damn theys good at it.

beamish said...

I wouldn't agree that I'm the only conservative, just the only conservative in this conversation.

beamish said...

Anyone comfortable with the idea of spending more than zero cents on unconstitutional entitlement programs is not a conservative nor right-wing, despite what the Stalinists in the Tea Party tell you.

beamish said...

Regardless, I slam Mitt Romney. I slam the Tea Party.

I've never slammed "the Right."

beamish said...

Mitt Romney WISHES he was as right-wing as Obama.

Hell, I'd settle for Romney moving rightwards towards Dennis Kucinich, just to appreciate the effort.

Z said...

whatever, Beamish.
You might want to open your own blog again.

beamish said...

No time for blogging, I work for a living.

;)

Liberalmann said...

I love you Beamish

beamish said...

uh...eww.

Liberalmann said...

Elmers Brother said...

Libdude I checked the IP addresses and all these comments that you claim are not you come from the same IP address. Z doesn't tolerate crap like this, so I suggest you cut it out.

-----

Really? You need to show me how you did this becasue you're lying. It's probably YOU.

Too bad wingnut have to resort to this type of childish behavior to discredit someone they disagree with. But they've learned from the loony right.

Liberalmann said...

Click on my name and you will see I've been a member since January 2012. The imposter's says July 2012

beakerkin said...

Z

Mr B is an idealist and maybe in a way he is right. Are any of us pro Romney or just anti Obama.

Is I am not Obama enough?

Say what you want about Newt, but he was a man of ideas. Is this candidacy Obama vs. Obama light.

The Great gasmasked patriot has a point.

Kid said...

beakerkin, the dems are evil the repubs useless. Tea party is the only chance.

What value is poo pooing Romney. You have two choices. vote against obama, or vote directly or indirectly (by not voting) for a racist, anti-American, mulsim activist imbecile who spent the last 2 yrs of high school in a multi-drug haze(his words) and has never worked a day in his life. not even the french fry bin at McDonalds.

beamish needs to grow the hell up and stop acting like a little girl who only wants a certain kind of candy.

Z said...

Kid! YOU ROCK!

Beak, I'm sick of having great people who love this country called socialists because they need Medicare.
You call it heroic, I call it ...
well, read Kid's comment :-)

Elmers Brother said...

Really? You need to show me how you did this becasue you're lying. It's probably YOU.

It's called a sitemeter LD.

Z said...

Libdude, there IS no bigger WINGNUT than you, let's face it.......

"Too bad wingnut have to resort to this type of childish behavior"....

It's your childish behavior.

And, really....your behavior here is always SO unkind and insulting, you have a LOT of nerve.

Elmers Brother said...

Tell me Libdude why would she put up with duhkkky and not an idiot like you?

beamish said...

beamish needs to grow the hell up and stop acting like a little girl who only wants a certain kind of candy

No, I just refuse to play along with the Teabagger dipshits who posit that Romney is even slightly more right-wing than say, Bernie Sanders.

beamish said...

Is this candidacy Obama vs. Obama light

Obama is the most viable anti-Romney candidate running.

beamish said...

...and it doesn't hurt that Obama is noticeably more right-wing than Mitt Romney, relatively speaking.

If we can't get a conservative in the White House, why go further left?

beamish said...

Legalizes gay marriage vs. uses Predator drones to kill terrorists on foreign soil without permission.

Is there any doubt who's more the right-winger?

Kid said...

No, I just refuse to play along with the Teabagger dipshits who posit that Romney is even slightly more right-wing than say, Bernie Sanders.

Who said he was right wing, and who gives a rat's ass anyway?

Kid said...

Beam, your further comments are unintelligible and therefore impossible for a reasoned mind to respond to.

beamish said...

Who said he was right wing

You're kidding, right? The same dipshit Teabaggers who claim Justice Roberts' decision on nationalized Romneycare was "conservative."

and who gives a rat's ass anyway?

My first guess would be "People who value coherency, or at least wish to be taken seriously."

("Constitutionalist" Medicare junkies need not apply)

Beam, your further comments are unintelligible and therefore impossible for a reasoned mind to respond to.

Fortunately, I'm talking to you while we wait for a reasoned mind to appear.

Seriously. Your "right-wing" guy legalized gay marriage in his state.

Your "left-wing" President has bombed over 5 countries without touchy-feely diplomacy we've come to expect from leftists.

No, they're both far left.

Obama's just not quite as far left as Romney.