Tuesday, July 23, 2013

Wal-Mart vs The Morons

GeeeZ readers;  I don't know who wrote this (I'm grateful to Pris for emailing it to me) but I checked with Snopes and they say "Mostly Accurate" (which, because it's a piece that reflects badly on Liberals, means "ABSOLUTELY TRUE" or we'd have heard every inacccuracy)...by the way, Sam Walton was a staunch Republican:

Wal-Mart vs. The Morons

1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March 17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target +Sears + Costco + K-Mart combined.

 5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people, is the world's largest private employer, and most speak
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the world.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger and Safeway combined, and keep in mind they did this in only fifteen years.
8.During this same period, 31 big supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.

10.  Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had five years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur at Wal-Mart stores. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within fifteen miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans and Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To  President Obama, many past presidents, and all 535 voting members of the Legislature, then and now:

 It is now official that the majority of you are corrupt and ineffective:

a.. The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. You have had 237 years to get it right and it
is broke.

b. Social Security was established in 1935.  You have had 77 years to get it right and it is broke.

c. Fannie Mae was established in 1938.  You have had 74 years to get it right and it is broke.  

d.. War on Poverty started in 1964.  You have had 48 years to get it right;  $1 trillion of our money is confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.

e. Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.  You have had 47 years to get it right and they are

f. Freddie Mac was established in 1970. You have had 42 years to get it right and it is broke.

g. The Department of Energy was created in1977 to lessen our dependence on foreign oil.  It has ballooned to 16,000employees with a budget of $24 billion a year and we import more oil than ever
before.  You had 35 years to get it right and it is an abysmal failure.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our throats while overspending our tax dollars.


 Folks, keep this circulating.  It is very well stated.  Maybe it will end up in the e-mails of some of our "duly elected'(they never read anything) officials and their staff will clue them in on how Americans feel. 

AND...We have lost our minds to  "Political Correctness"! We're "broke" & can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, Homeless etc., but,  in the last months we have provided aid to Haiti, and Turkey .and Pakistan ........previous home of Bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS, while our retired seniors living on a 'fixed income' receive no extra aid nor do they get any special breaks--nada beyond shopping discounts.

AND Congress wants to freeze Social Security payments. You do know that Congress voted  themselves a pay raise for 2013?  Google this--it's true!   (end)

Z:  Let me just add that Detroit's had Democrat mayors since 1962, and every channel I've listened to since the bankruptcy says "Detroit started running a large debt sixty years ago.."   Coincidence?  All this 'give away' stuff for votes that the Left started sixty years ago has never worked...we just didn't know that yet.
SO...what do we do NOW, folks?


Always On Watch said...

We on the Right side of the political spectrum will never get those on the Left to see the reality behind the failures listed in the body of the blog post.


Well, never -- until the economic reality touches the Left personally and in a way that devastates Leftists personally.

Ruth H said...

Walmart has a lean, mean, profit machine. Some people think that is bad, but it gives low prices and also provides jobs. It works.

Z said...

AOW...that's right. Not until then; it actually has started, but they don't recognize it.

Had to delete Libmann again this morning because of the silly lies. I almost feel sad for him . or her. whatever it is.

Duth...that's exactly right. Helps people buy at good prices and their employees are protected. Possibly, the reason every little 'half scandal' about them , among all those employees, is so widely covered in the news; the leftwing news simply can't stand it.

Z said...

AOW, by the way, one of the libmann points was a good one; did you know the GOP WANTS to destroy the Middle Class?

Nothing about how the experts, unions, etc., are saying Libmann's hero Obama's health care is out to destroy the unions and this country.. :-)
Maybe I should have left the list up; really funny!

Sam Huntington said...

Liberalman, I have to say your are an amazing study. You are obviously the product of America's failed education system. I suspect you may have even taken one or two college courses after completing your remedial classes before being allowed to take courses for credit, but I also imagine that none of those lessons had anything to do with business. So here’s a clue: the purpose of having a company is to make a profit. To help accomplish that, business people hire employees and pay them for their efforts. If they are full time employees, then the federal government demands they be afforded “benefits.” If they are part time employees, there is no requirement to provide them with any benefits. Wal-Mart is a smart company. Government mandates are stupid.

I suspect you’d know this were it not for the fact that you ensconce yourself in your grandmother’s basement while watching porn and trolling conservative blogs for the mere pittance you get from Media Matters, Inc. And this of course suggests that you’re a leftist twit and a danger to normal society.

Z said...

"Duth" in my comment above was meant to be "Ruth"...sorry, Ruth. And thanks for being here.

SAM, you wrote so well I wish I had left Libdope's comment up; man, you could have taken it point by point. But he never seems to learn, anyway...

Anonymous said...

Detroiters never woke up. Are Detroiters representative of America?

FreeThinke said...

".. the Right ... will never get ... the Left to see the reality behind the failures listed in the body of the ... post. ... never -- until the economic reality touches the Left ... in a way that devastates Leftists personally."

Absolutely right, AOW, and even then most of them would still say, "This would never have happened if only those rotten Republicans had not kept on opposing us." ;-)

Of course, if the leftists achieve their goals, ALL of us will be brought to ruin along with them, and then there will be nothing left for anyone to say except, OUCH!!!-- and other words too coarse and impolite to say here at GeeeeZ.

Z said...

FT "Absolutely right, AOW, and even then most of them would still say, "This would never have happened if only those rotten Republicans had not kept on opposing us." ;-)"

Our own president is still saying this......."if only the Republicans..." then he gets a big laugh from his hand-picked audience at the WH, and shakes his head with bewilderment that these GOP folks just don't get it, and chuckles some more, in an attempt to convince Americans how very stupid people are who won't see it HIS WAY.
It enrages me and sometimes shocks me in the unpresidential-ness of it.

ConsonFire..they have always said Detroit Led The Nation........well, let's hope not.

FreeThinke said...

We need to recognize the serious downside to "The Walmartization of America."

The phenomenon is a triumph of ever increasing BIGNESS and CENTRALIZATION -- both spectacularly UN-Conservative things.

The advent of all the huge discount stores in all the malls has killed off Main Street. There is nothing left of friendly Mom and Pop businesses in our towns, villages, small cities and hamlets. Everything nowadays is "out on the highway at the mall."

I, personally, see his as destructive of the unique character, charm and individuality of the various regions, areas, and communities.

No matter where you go there you meet the moral equivalent of McDonalds, Walmart and Super 8 motels.

Big Business along with Big Government and their imposition of ever-increasing standardization have turned America into Generica.

Personally, I find it dismal -- a disincentive to travel.

Robert Sinclair said...

FT … I see your point, but you can’t have a free market, and then impose restrictions on “bigness.” To the best of my knowledge, Wal-Mart has not behaved illegally to create a monopoly. Personally, I liked going to Kresge’s, and deplore beyond description K-Mart. I enjoyed going to Woolworth’s 5 and Dime, but refuse to go to a Footlocker store.

I note that in response to Home Depot and Lowe’s Home Centers, ACE Hardware stores developed a franchise consortium so that they can take advantage of buying in bulk, which allows them to make a profit. Nothing on the order of Wal-Mart, mind you, but then America seems to have developed an unquenchable thirst for junk made in China and Wal-Mart did corner that market.

Has this been destructive to Mom and Pop hardware stores, corner groceries, and Vinnie who used to sell us vegetables off his 1949 Chevy pick-up truck? Yes, it has. We also have paved streets instead of muddy thoroughfares, and gasoline powered automobiles rather than 13 million horses crapping inside New York City. I guess they call this progress. Next up … George Jetson type cars that don’t need paved highways, and everyone will take pills for their sustenance. Thank goodness I won’t live to see it.

Z said...

Robert and FT: I couldn't agree with BOTH of you more.

FT...I can't STAND the "big box storing" of America. I have actually never stepped foot in a Wal Mart; we just don't have one nearby, frankly. Plus, I have no interest.
I miss the book stores where people actually spoke English and had even (gasp!) read the books and could recommend books to me!
I miss all the lovely things about small shops and try to frequent them as MUCH as possible, though I hate spending the extra money and sometimes laugh to myself "ya, like your extra $10 for that item you just paid is going to keep the shop alive and fight the big boxers!!" I really do...very often!

BUT, as Robert says, it is legal and it is progress.

Oh, did I forget to mention that I am not the biggest fan of progress, either? :-) The kind of progress we're seeing is, for example, a completely nude photo, full page,in the LA Times Sunday...I belivee it was an ad for a Modeling Runway show on Television...men and women, side and back views...stark naked..no frontals, of course. But RIGHT THERE...I LITERALLY took a double take "am I seeing what I think I am? In a NEWSPAPER?"

I could list a million things I'm still stunned at; I feel so sorry for our next generation.

ugh..gotta run...I'm pontificating, anyway...I'll save you the rest of what I've got to say :-)

see you later.

Impertinent said...

@Robert S:

" deplore beyond description K-Mart.."

Boy you've got that right...I was so hoping they'd go under....but...they bought Sears for crying out loud.

Mustang said...

There is only one reason I go to Wal-Mart: it's cheaper than going to a circus.

Impertinent said...


I assume you've see the pics of their ahhhh..."clientele"?

Mustang said...

@ Impertinent

Right ... and that's why I need glasses and psychotherapy.

Thersites said...

I see your point, but you can’t have a free market, and then impose restrictions on “bigness.”

Sure you can. Stop giving "corporations" special tax breaks and special rights, like shielding their officers from liability. Their "bigness" comes from their ability to evade taxes and take advantage of corporate legal loopholes... and the fact that they never pay "death taxes" like every "living" individual on earth.

Thersites said...

Were it not for the legal structures of government, there would be no "corporations".

Impertinent said...


You owe me a keebord!

Thersites said...

A truly free market, truly "laissez-faire", grants no special perks to the LARGE and POWERFUL through legislation and tax breaks.

The problem of post-modern liberal capitalism and unemployment (the "blue model") is that these special legislative perks have become legislatively enshrined, therefore ensuring the demise of the small businessman in favour of the government legislatively sponsored and approved corporate behemoth and an educational system oriented towards churning out corporate business clones.

But don't believe me, just ask George Orwell

The Fascism-democracy dogfight was no doubt an attraction in itself, but in any case their conversion was due at about that date. It was obvious that laissez-faire capitalism was finished and that there had got to be some kind of reconstruction; in the world of 1935 it was hardly possible to remain politically indifferent. But why did these young men turn towards anything so alien as Russian Communism? Why should writers be attracted by a form of socialism that makes mental honesty impossible? The explanation really lies in something that had already made itself felt before the slump and before Hitler: middle-class unemployment.

Unemployment is not merely a matter of not having a job. Most people can get a job of sorts, even at the worst of times. The trouble was that by about 1930 there was no activity, except perhaps scientific research, the arts, and left-wing politics, that a thinking person could believe in. The debunking of Western civilization had reached its Climax and ‘disillusionment’ was immensely widespread. Who now could take it for granted to go through life in the ordinary middle-class way, as a soldier, a clergyman, a stockbroker, an Indian Civil Servant, or what-not? And how many of the values by which our grandfathers lived could not be taken seriously? Patriotism, religion, the Empire, the family, the sanctity of marriage, the Old School Tie, birth, breeding, honour, discipline — anyone of ordinary education could turn the whole lot of them inside out in three minutes. But what do you achieve, after all, by getting rid of such primal things as patriotism and religion? You have not necessarily got rid of the need for something to believe in. There had been a sort of false dawn a few years earlier when numbers of young intellectuals, including several quite gifted writers (Evelyn Waugh, Christopher Hollis, and others), had fled into the Catholic Church. It is significant that these people went almost invariably to the Roman Church and not, for instance, to the C. of E., the Greek Church, or the Protestants sects. They went, that is, to the Church with a world-wide organization, the one with a rigid discipline, the one with power and prestige behind it. Perhaps it is even worth noticing that the only latter-day convert of really first-rate gifts, Eliot, has embraced not Romanism but Anglo-Catholicism, the ecclesiastical equivalent of Trotskyism. But I do not think one need look farther than this for the reason why the young writers of the thirties flocked into or towards the Communist Party. If was simply something to believe in. Here was a Church, an army, an orthodoxy, a discipline. Here was a Fatherland and — at any rate since 1935 or thereabouts — a Fuehrer. All the loyalties and superstitions that the intellect had seemingly banished could come rushing back under the thinnest of disguises. Patriotism, religion, empire, military glory — all in one word, Russia. Father, king, leader, hero, saviour — all in one word, Stalin. God — Stalin. The devil — Hitler. Heaven — Moscow. Hell — Berlin. All the gaps were filled up. So, after all, the ‘Communism’ of the Ebglish intellectual is something explicable enough. It is the patriotism of the deracinated.

- George Orwell, "Inside the Whale"

Thersites said...

More from "Inside the Whale" (1940)

While I have been writing this essay another European war has broken out. It will either last several years and tear Western civilization to pieces, or it will end inconclusively and prepare the way for yet another war which will do the job once and for all. But war is only ‘peace intensified’. What is quite obviously happening, war or no war, is the break-up of laissez-faire capitalism and of the liberal-Christian culture. Until recently the full implications of this were not foreseen, because it was generally imagined that socialism could preserve and even enlarge the atmosphere of liberalism. It is now beginning to be realized how false this idea was. Almost certainly we are moving into an age of totalitarian dictatorships — an age in which freedom of thought will be at first a deadly sin and later on a meaningless abstraction. The autonomous individual is going to be stamped out of existence. But this means that literature, in the form in which we know it, must suffer at least a temporary death. The literature of liberalism is coming to an end and the literature of totalitarianism has not yet appeared and is barely imaginable. As for the writer, he is sitting on a melting iceberg; he is merely an anachronism, a hangover from the bourgeois age, as surely doomed as the hippopotamus. Miller seems to me a man out of the common because he saw and proclaimed this fact a long while before most of his contemporaries — at a time, indeed, when many of them were actually burbling about a renaissance of literature. Wyndham Lewis had said years earlier that the major history of the English language was finished, but he was basing this on different and rather trivial reasons. But from now onwards the all-important fact for the creative writers going to be that this is not a writer's world. That does not mean that he cannot help to bring the new society into being, but he can take no part in the process as a writer. For as a writer he is a liberal, and what is happening is the destruction of liberalism. It seems likely, therefore, that in the remaining years of free speech any novel worth reading will follow more or less along the lines that Miller has followed — I do not mean in technique or subject matter, but in implied outlook. The passive attitude will come back, and it will be more consciously passive than before. Progress and reaction have both turned out to be swindles. Seemingly there is nothing left but quietism — robbing reality of its terrors by simply submitting to it. Get inside the whale — or rather, admit you are inside the whale (for you are, of course). Give yourself over to the worid-process, stop fighting against it or pretending that you control it; simply accept it, endure it, record it. That seems to be the formula, that any sensitive novelist is now likely to adopt. A novel on more positive, ‘constructive’ lines, and not emotionally spurious, is at present very difficult to imagine.

Thersites said...

A song for America's unemployed...

FreeThinke said...

I can't argue with M. Sinclair, and wouldn't want to. I see his point, as he saw mine.

Not sure there's a way out of this "trap" we've sprung on ourselves largely because of a perverse greed for more, bigger, better, shinier, brighter -- and always CHEAPER -- things, things things.

What Thersites decries is certainly not Freedom of Choice and not really "Capitalism" either. I believe it's called both Corporatism -- i.e. the unholy merger of Big Business with Big Government -- and Crony Capitalism -- the same thing, but it also involves the Big International Bankers -- i. e. The Moneylenders.

It's horrible to have to admit it, but MINEy is POWER, and those who know how to control and manipulate the money supply HAVE managed to dominate -- and CORRUPT -- the purity of our Founding Ideals in ways I'm not sure even the Founders, themselves, anticipated.

Blame it all on The Industrial Revolution, if you like. When you stop to think about it, that thoroughly mixed blessing certainly gave rise to a regular Pandora's Box filled with social evils.

There is no way to stop Progress, of course, but shouldn't there be SOME way for far-seeing individuals to SHAPE, DIRECT, and CONTROL it before it drives us all over the metaphorical cliff?

Louis H. said...

Dieu merci! The press is report there is a new groupe of obscène pictures of Anthony le pénis; I was afraid we'd seen the last of them.

FreeThinke said...

MONEY is POWER, of course, Not MINEy. Sorry 'bout that!

It would be lovely if we could have an "edit" function someday. DISQUS, which I HATE, provided that for a short while, but then it DISAPPEARED.

@!##@#&^#!^&@&*$%^!!@#?>*?/")!$%, etc. ;-)

Robert Sinclair said...

Yes, FT —I think there is some way to shape progress, but not with the public school system turning out generation after generation of human beings incapable of critical thinking. People lacking interest in almost anything beyond social media.

JonBerg said...

Don't expect much in the way of private sector expertise in the foreseeable future. The following shows the private sector component of each Presidential Cabinet from T. Roosevelt to the sorry POS we have today.

T. Roosevelt…….. 38%
Wilson ………………. 52%
Coolidge………….. 48%
Hoover …………….. 42%
F. Roosevelt……… 50%
Eisenhower………. 57%
Kennedy…………… 30%
Nixon……………….. 53%
Ford………………… 42%
Carter………………. 32%
GH Bush………….. 51%
Clinton …………….. 39%
GW Bush…………. 55%

And the winner of the Chicken Dinner is…………..

Obama……………. 8% !!!

Liberalmann said...

Walmart pays few people full time salaries to avoid paying benefits and they actually give new employees food stamp applications. They drive US companies overseas before they buy their products, they destroy mom and pop businesses and decimate small towns and neighborhoods.

As for your ridiculous examples of government agencies you failed to mention that under a GOP sponsored bill the US Postal Service is require to have on hand billions of dollars to cover employee pensions-many of whom haven't even been hired yet!

The GOP wants to privatize everything to line their pockets and take away our choices, our freedom. Guess what will be illegal when they complexity private prisons? EVERYTHING! Lol!

Walmart; the high cost of low prices:

How Congress is killing the Post Office:

And if this doesn't scare you, you're in total denial:

College Football Stadium Will Be Named After Private Prison Corporation:

JonBerg said...

Would someone please explain what this means:

"Guess what will be illegal when they complexity private prisons? EVERYTHING! Lol!"

Mustang said...

I think Anthony Weiner is symptomatic of the problem we have with the progressive communists; no matter how hard we try, they just wont go away. What I do not understand is why none of his opponents in the mayoral race have adopted the campaign slogan: Beat Weiner.

Impertinent said...



They have it on every site I visit...thank god too. You can make a "do over".

Z said...

FT...how do you think I felt when the first Starbucks opened in Paris?
Sure, SOME people might prefer to running in and grabbing a papercup with a plastic top and a little hole in it and enjoying their bitter Starbucks coffee..

Call me silly for wanting to take a few minutes more to sit in a cafe or at the coffee bar, have a demitasse of rich, wonderful flavored coffee and a cold glass of water (the combo is amazing)...then be on my way :-)

Libdope: if you had a CLUE, I'd respond. Your remark about the Post Office is hilarious. That's a leftwing ATROCITY, PAL...employee pensions are YOUR BAG; don't complain to US now that Republicans are forced to make sure the money those pensioners have been promised by the dopy leftwingers will BE THERE.
Do you THINK?
SCARE US? Do you KNOW how many private things are named after corporations? Do you live under a rock? (no offense.)
(well, ya..go ahead...take offense)

JonBerg...don't worry; we've got a commenter who thinks Republicans are getting rich over privatization! You can't reason. He probably STILL doesn't believe that Democrats make more money and give FAR less in philanthropy than Republicans. ssshhh.. he likes Obama; don't pop his bubble.

Z said...

Mustang and Imp;

the point of this post was not that I like Wal Mart...as I said in a comment, I have never been in one and, frankly, find them disgusting...as I also said above, they're killing charming small businesses, which I detest with everything I've got);

The point of the publication here is that they run a profit and hire a LOT of people; the whole point is that our gov't is doing SO SO SO much worse. We can take lessons from those who understand how to run an economy, which Wal Mart really IS, don't you think?

Z said...

and re Weiner...when I got home just now, I had a Wash. Post release/email saying newer pix of Weiner have surfaced.

Democrats will still vote for this man of no character. I think it's in their genes.

Impertinent said...
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Impertinent said...


"Democrats will still vote for this man of no character..."

Of course not...since when do the mobocrats have any character?

Impertinent said...


"College Football Stadium Will Be Named After Private Prison Corporation.."

Total BULLSHIT eggplant. I live 1/2 mile from FAU...and they withdrew the idea within a week. And the Pres. of FAU resigned over it too.

The only ones opposed to the idea were the commie, whiny, trust fund creeps and the MB hoodlums at the University.

BUT..as usual...your crap is wrong again...matter of fact your crap is 6 months old...kumquat. But that's about your age, isn't it?

Impertinent said...


I won't support WalMart cause it's all China Crap. I have bought ammo from them in a NC store though. And it's not from China.

Ed Bonderenka said...

I go to Walmart sometimes.
Often for ammo.
I prefer Meijers because they're Michigan based.
I have not seen the kind of "people" (walmartians) that I've seen pictured online.
Sales help is courteous.
Prices are good.
My son owns a gamestore.
He's doing quite well (www.gamersave.com).
There are game stops and Wal-Mart's all around.
He's next to a Kmart.
People come to buy from him.
Stores, factories, all have to offer value-added to make a profit.
A lot of under-employed people take advantage of the low prices at Wal-Mart.
You may think that it's a vicious circle, but I'll not have the government restricting my choices.
There are niches to be discovered in answer to Walmart.

Z said...

Imp, I'm not asking you to support Wal Mart...at least I don't think I am.
I'm saying I HATE IT, but I'm saying they can sure run a HUGE company..that's all. That's the point.

Ed..thanks for that. Really very wise.

Kid said...

Some thoughts:
Libtards hate WalMart becuase they claim they don't pay their employees much and as a result turn the surrounding neighborhoods into bad areas.

Well Detroit in contrast shows the effect that high paid union people have on neighborhoods in a global economy. Once again, libtards have the minds of 3 year olds that can't think past "But Here's what I Want!"

Have people noticed that WalMart employees people who, generally speaking are not particularly employable ? Many of these folks were scuttled through the democrat federal education system and frankly - If WalMart didn't hire them they'd be doing some serious manual labor somewhere in a much more unfriendly environment than a heated and cooled WalMart store.
Facts are Facts !

Once again Libtards, you wear your incredible LACK of forsight and insight and intelligence on your sleeve like badge of honor.

Finally, it's not just democrats that are the peoblem, it is the entire federal government for sure, Many state governments from there and some number of local governments.

They don't care about you. They don't give a damn about You or your problems. They are in business to steal as much money for themselves and their friends and masters like the union bosses and to self gratify themselves.
They Don't Care ! They'll be long gone when the effects of them doing the above become apparent to the general public.

There is No Solution as long as people believe to even a nanometer that anyone in government is 'the answer' to the problem.

Kid said...

IMP, If I go to Meijer, or Costco, or Sam's Club, 99% of the stuff there is from China...

Anonymous said...

"Wal-Mart vs The Morons"

Who are the "Morons", besides the Progressive Bloger!

JonBerg said...


Yes, I can't imagine where most of those people,employed by Wal*Mart, would be if not there. Further, NO one is forced to shop there either. I seldom shop there but if and when I do it's by choice. My cousin, a big union advocate who claims to hate it, buys all of his ammo there!

Kid said...

JB, "My cousin, a big union advocate who claims to hate it, buys all of his ammo there! "

There it is right there.

I can dig principle. But do the unions not see they're failing? The big 3, twinkies, countless others. Union workers of course, the bosses don't care. Like getting a pacifier away from a baby.

Ed Bonderenka said...

I'm reminded of the D.C. council mandating Walmart, with all the jobs it offers (part time is better than no time), pay $12/hr, assuring that they wil not build or provide jobs there.

Radical Redneck said...

" deplore beyond description K-Mart.."...Boy you've got that right...I was so hoping they'd go under

Hey I like K-Mart. No matter how crowded it is I can clear it out in 3 seconds and have it all to myself. Merely by screaming out "Immigration!"

Ed Bonderenka said...

Deplore Kmart. Don't go there.
But in some communities they offer jobs and products that people want to buy.
It's not my favorite shopping destination, but it's better than the vacant building they left behind across town.

JonBerg said...

In the absurd case that all jobs would become unionized:

1) Inflated wages would become the norm and therefore of no purchasing advantage.

2) Union Bosses would become the de facto management class.

3) Efficiency of production would come to an abrupt halt.

4) Inflation would surge.

5) What's now left of our balance of World trade would collapse.

6) Detroit would become the model city for the entire Nation.

That's enough for now; I'm getting Ill!

Impertinent said...

Does anyone see something wrong with this...especially after Obutthead exacerbated race relations the other day?

"At a conference of the National Council of La Raza attended by Michelle Obama, center, the leaders said they would press the House for a vote on a broad bill."

WTF is wrong with us? And them, especially them?

Leticia said...

Walmart is a great store, they have everything and if they don't have it they will order it. I also love Sam's Warehouse, too.

They know what they are doing and this place is still going strong.

Bob said...

When Sam Walton started with a Five & Dime store in a small Arkansas (rural) town, his idea was to sell to rural folks in small towns at lower prices than the local competition. He developed a rural strategy that was hugely successful, and then adapted it to moving into suburban areas.

That way he could control the way he engaged in competition with K-Mart, Target, and a dozen other discount retailers in urban and suburban markets.

In the early eighties, Walmart moved into my wife's home town in West Tennessee. We used to look forward to visiting her mom so that we could go to Walmart. It was really something, then, with prices you could not beat. As a matter of fact, it wasn't long before the smaller stores in her home town went out of business. They could not compete with Walmart.

Now that Walmart has pursued their strategy of being all things to all people with lower prices, people are afraid of them, seeing Walmart as being some sort of evil entity.

In truth if you look at rural America where they started, Walmart did powerful things, from employing people to changing the paradigm of the retail industry in the USA. Now that they are in urban areas, other sacred cows are being toppled. Unions are being seen as the anti-business entities they really are.

So, Walmart is good news and bad news. Retail jobs have always been at the bottom of the food chain, and Walmart is just recognizing the facts realistically in retail markets. Walmart represents a force that is neither good, or bad.

Walmart, or something like it, is inevitable.

Liberalmann said...

Z said: Libdope: 'if you had a CLUE, I'd respond. Your remark about the Post Office is hilarious'


I guess you don't realize the Post Office is required to fund pension programs for people they will hire in the future. Show me another governmental agency or corporation for that matter which this is required.

A Manufactured Crisis:

"At the very end of that year, Congress passed the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act of 2006 (PAEA). Under PAEA, USPS was forced to “prefund its future health care benefit payments to retirees for the next 75 years in an astonishing ten-year time span” — meaning that it had to put aside billions of dollars to pay for the health benefits of employees it hasn’t even hired yet, something “that no other government or private corporation is required to do.”

Things You Need to Know About the Post OFfice:

1. The USPS is not technically “broke” — yet.
Operationally speaking, the USPS nets profits every year. The financial problem it faces now comes from a 2006 Congressional mandate that requires the agency to “pre-pay” into a fund that covers health care costs for future retired employees. Under the mandate, the USPS is required to make an annual $5.5 billion payment over ten years, through 2016. These “prepayments” are largely responsible for the USPS’s financial losses over the past four years and the threat of shutdown that looms ahead – take the retirement fund out of the equation, and the postal service would have actually netted $1 billion in profits over this period.

2. The postal service doesn’t rely on taxpayer funds.
The USPS in its current form runs like a business, relies on postage for revenue and, for the most part, has not used taxpayer money since 1982, when postage stamps became “products” instead of forms of taxation. Taxpayer money is only used in some cases to pay for mailing voter materials to disabled and overseas Americans.


Z said...

Libman, The whole point for my earlier response is to try to show you WHY Republicans are demanding the money's there for the pensions. They believe it's not enough to just promise money; they believe it should be forthcoming if promised.
Congress put it into law; change the law if you don't like it.

And, by the way, it runs like a business, alright...a BANKRUPT BUSINESS.

Z said...

what's a real relief is there will be almost no firings...if there had been a ton of postal worker firings, I'm wondering if Congress would have been called RACIST, too?

Let's see what the Democrats suggest in order to save the Postal Dept.

This is a perfect comparison to the Wal Mart/America's economy analogy;

I've always said the Post Office should look into how FedEx or Netflix does it. THEY can handle deliveries amazingly profitably and accurately.

dmarks said...

Free: Main Street puts itself out of business with terrible customer service. A sort of suicide. You can't blame Walmart and big box stores.

A perfect example of this is when I wanted to get a camera tripod at 8 am in a town. I went downtown, and the camera shop and the rest of the stores were all closed. They would not be open for hours. The locked doors were a statement that they did not want my business.

I went to Target.. they had already been open for an hour. And got my tripod.

Thers: corporations are merely a way for people to band together to protect themselves from death taxes, frivolous lawsuits, and other predations of the ruling class. Thiw forces even the smallest businesses to incorporate.

JonBerg said...

"the Post Office should look into how FedEx or Netflix does it."

Well, for one thing FedEx is non-union.

Z said...

JonBerg...Excellent point.
I didn't know that. Bravo

dmarks said...

Thanks to the union, the post office badly overpays its workers. If it went to a fair wage, the financial problems would vanish.

Liberalmann said...

The average salary of a postal worker is about $50k. You'd rather they pay them Walmart wages?

dmarks said...

Lib: Why not? It would save a lot of money. Pay a fair wage equal to the value of the work.

$50K for a low-value low-skill job like that is unsustainable.

Actually, I am not sure where Walmart wages fit into this, but the fair, real value of wages of postal worker jobs would be about the same as what Fedex pays

As of 2011, a Fedex courier was paid about $43K. A handsome salary. Still a lot less than $50K. The postal service could probably become solvent with a reform to pay real world, fair wages like they do at Fedex.

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FreeThinke said...

Your experience, D Marks, has obviously been radically different from mine.

I guess it all depends on were -- and how -- one is raised.

FreeThinke said...

Just a thought for Mr. Sinclair:

Wouldn't it exemplify conservative principles if each community were permitted to decided for itself whether or not it wanted to have a Walmart or something of the like within its boundaries?

I don't believe in restraint of trade either, BUT I most certainly DO advocate the idea of fostering and doing everything possible to encourage The Rule of Local Communities through their right to set their own individual standards. That was how America first grew and developed.

Ever-increasing standardization and centralization have contributed greatly to our present deplorable condition.

JonBerg said...

Well now, it's happened; the AFOL-CIO is [demanding] that tax payers bail this $#!t#ole out. I say let them, the AFOL-CIO bail it out. They caused the problem!

Liberalmann said...

Really? But you have no problem bailing out the banks?

Always On Watch said...

I did -- that's for sure.

dmarks said...

Lib said: "Really? But you have no problem bailing out the banks?"

Most Republicans wisely opposed this handout to the banks. Most Democrats including the current President, supported it.

Where do you stand? With the Dems, or Republicans?

dmarks said...

Liberalmann: And, again, about the post office, they should be paid fair wages (which is a lot lower than what they are paid now). Anything above the real value is a waste: a welfare payment, a handout.

JonBerg said...

Re. Liberalmann:

"Where do you stand?"

On his head, of course!

Waylon said...

This comment is way late but having been away for a few days in the state of Michigan, there are viable alternatives to Wal-Mart in the form of outlet malls that offer brand name products at better prices than Wal-Mart. Two outlet malls that I have visited recently are the Great Lakes Crossing Mall in Auburn Hills and the Birch Run outlet mall in Birch Run, Michigan. Of course, the goods mostly come from outside the country, just like Wal-Mart, which may be hard to swallow for hard core American made fanatics, but I guess that is just the way the world works today. Cèst la vie.

JonBerg said...


The problem of just "Pure Michigan"!