SO, the new governor of Hawaii, a friend of Obama's parents from way back then, insists he knows Obama was born in Hawaii. GOOD...let the whole darned thing GO, show the proof, tell us what you know and BE DONE WITH IT! FINALLY! Now that someone says he can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, he's too busy? Check this out from THIS article!:
"The newly elected governor will ask the state attorney general's office and health officials about how he can make public more of Obama's birth documentation from Aug. 4, 1961, spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Tuesday.
"He had a friendship with Mr. Obama's parents, and so there is a personal issue at hand," Dela Cruz said. "Is it going to be done immediately? No, the first thing on our list is the economy."
The new governor seems outraged that there are so many still questioning the darned birth certificate but he's addressing the economy first? Are they kidding? Then just shut up about it.........when your economy's humming, please let us know what you know, okay? (Does that sound right to you?:-) Can this guy multitask?
Then the article says "It's unclear what (Gov) Abercrombie could do because Hawaii's privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn't have a tangible interest." WHAT? Wouldn't legality of a sitting president be of some 'tangible interest?'
The Governor goes on to say the following to the Los Angeles Times this week: "What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons." REALLY? Who even talks about it anymore!? We all know there are even Democrat operatives who doubt the American birth of this president, this isn't all about politics, this is about TRUTH.
I wish the whole thing would go away...Governor Abercrombie could, apparently, dispel all doubts...........but he's too busy? :-) Has a president's birth certificate ever been sealed to the public, by the way? Just curious.........I'd sure like this new governor to put an end to the guessing.......
z
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Who cares what the damned thing says? Obama's half-sister, born in Indonesia, also has a Hawaiian certificate of live birth as well.
Why don't we honor his parents and look at the only qualifications that natter? His father was a Kenyan national, his mother wasn't old enough to confer US citizenship to a child of a foreign national under naturalization law at the time, even if he's a Messiah capable of the miracle of being born in Hawaii at two different hospitals while being born in Kenya in front of witnesses at the same time.
Have the Guvnah dig up the US Constitution and see what it says.
The governor of Hawaii sounds like another Obamabot.
Beamish: his mother wasn't old enough to confer US citizenship to a child of a foreign national under naturalization law at the time...
Yep.
Check this video out Z
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/12/27/chris_matthews_why_doesnt_obama_just_release_the_birth_certificate.html
Chris Matthews asking "Why doesn't he just show the birth certificate". Kind of interesting. He doesn't buy the birther argument and in fact in his usual style makes snide remarks about them. He does though put up a poll and act as if he realizes there is an issue here. Also, notice the "fair and balanced debate" MSNBC style.
As far as them being too busy, horsesh!! He could have a clerk go to the old storage, pull a file, and give the certificate to him. Or is this records clerk working on the economy too?
Yep - another promise of transparency down the tubes.
Yep - another promise of transparency down the tubes.
The stupid, it burns !!!
Let's have Orly Taitz file another suit claiming he's using a fake Social Security number. Takes our mind of the collapse of the nation.
If I were Obama, and I had nothing to hide, I'd just SHOW the damn thing and stop the speculation.
Unless, of course, he DOES have something to hide.
The hardest-working and most transparent president EVAH!
Maybe even that village in Kenya finally is tired of its idjut! I know we are. Send him home to Kenya. If they would like 2 idiots send Biden with him.
Silvrlady
AS I said over on Right Truth's blog, the governor is posturing and drawing attention to himself. He's getting in position to make a run for the Senate in 2012.
So all in all it just more BS proven by his quick change of subject to the economy. Sounds like Obama doesn't he?
On a different note, folks might want to check out the Coen Bros. remake of "True Grit".
They have shifted this from the original discourse on heroism to a study of faith and grace.
Well worth while.
Obama likes being mysterious. He learned in high school it was making him sexy. And he hasn't evolved since then.
Saw True Grit in a prescreening Ducky and even though this is well crafted, I was bored to death story wise. Too simple of a story and not much too chew on.
Karen is spot on with her comment:
If I were Obama, and I had nothing to hide, I'd just SHOW the damn thing and stop the speculation.
Casting Jeff Bridges as Rooster Cogburn is like casting Woody Allen as General Patton.
Fayell!
Beamish, you're being tough. But I must say, even though I love Bridges (awesome in Crazy Heart), he was one note in True Grit and that is why I was bored. Despite the great acting and the wonderful photography, the movie is one note in general.
I suspect Bridges as Rooster is just so much Starman deadpan in a cowboy hat. Probably has Matt Damon in there playing the essential Matt Damon character to pad the limited range Bridges has as an actor into something it otherwise isn't.
One note is probably a very good assessment.
I suspect the fix is in so anything that the governor might produce will be as authentic as the Dan Rather/Bush's National Guard memo or BO's half-sister's certificate of live birth.
Obama's real backstory is a cypher on purpose.
The whole thing stinks and is highly suspicious. Seriously, provide a legitimate birth certificate and then the whole matter would be laid to rest.
Let's see the documentation.
The big question is, if it was proven that Obama is not a natural born American, would Congress have the guts to have him removed from office?
I think the answer is no, I'm sorry to say. In fact the democrat Congress relinquished their power to the executive branch making our representatives almost irrelevant. They chose not to use oversight regarding czars and administration officials.
As we speak, his EPA is enforcing "green" regulations never debated or considered by Congress re Cap and Trade. Not debated, voted on, or passed and signed.
Furthermore, the end of life "counseling" re healthcare, was removed from the healthcare bill, yet it's alive and well.
He's going around Congress and dictating new regs. through his czars. He even announced he would do this anyway. What was the response from Congress? Silence.
We'd better see aggressive oversight hearings in the new Congress. They must stop the executive branch from using dictatorial methods, or they'll become a Congress in name only.
They have to recapture their power. It's out of balance, and I believe very dangerous.
We've been steamrolled long enough. The American people have not been represented. It's now or never!
So folks, Obama's birth standing, has become irrelevant as well, unless Congress can find some spine. So far the discussion about his birth has been a waste of time because the Congress deems it too risky politically.
This lack of fortitude is what's responsible for the creation of the tea party. Our people know we've been disenfranchised. We can feel it in our bones!
Pris
An old saying: 'Just because you put on a western hat & a pair of cowboy boots doesn't make you a cowboy'. The number of real horsemen in films wouldn't equal the fingers on your 2 hands. I know that because I have known a lot of Western film stuntmen, & they know who the real horsemen are. Joel McCrea, Richard Farnsworth (an old friend & riding companion), Tom Mix, who had been a ranch hand, to name a very few.
Silvrlady
Qualified or not, President BO IS president and that is not going to change. If you try to change it, his cousin Vito will pay you a visit.
As for True Grit...I cannot imagine a remake being as good as the original, and I didn't like the original that much.
"Chris Matthews asking "Why doesn't he just show the birth certificate".
I say it's about time the lefty, koolaid drinkers ask the questions they should have asked 3 years ago about their "Messiah". Is it even possible that their curiosity as "journalists" has finally been aroused? And since the challenges and doubts just won't go away as they'd hoped...they too really want to know the pedigree of this horses ass they backed?
Hell...we know more about a pure bred dog before we buy one, than we know about the mutt, Obama. And a mutt he is with his parental history. As are most of us who are not likely to be 100% of any nationality but a mix decided by our ancestral heritage.
I think they've really begun to wonder now just what his qualifications are to be where he is. Since they're witnessed his many failures and shortcomings from his "Katrina" - BP...to McCrystal...to Gitmo...to an escalation of troops in the Afghan theater. His inability to separate himself from his racial bating and racial preferences as witnessed by his AG.
They're getting frustrated and angry finding out who the wizard really is behind the curtain.
On another front, they see that this this guy hasn't an academic trail they can tout or brag of...no Law briefs or papers from Harvard...no one coming forward from his formative days either as a vaunted community organizer, state senator, or his college years. Zip..nada...no transcripts, no grades reflecting his GPA or any indication that he's more brilliant than Forrest Gump.
Lastly, his "birth announcement" in a Hawaii newspaper in 1961...is just that, an announcement. It is not and never will be proof of his birth place. Hell, it's no more significant or proof than someone placing an ad for a garage sale on the same day.
I think it will go on for years after he's out of our lives...kind of like something Oliver Stone might get into someday. And if we do finally find that he has been and always was the greatest fraud ever foisted upon America...Congress will collapse and have ZERO integrity and a 1% "approval rating".
Silvrlady you forgot the best of all, the great Randolph Scott.
Peckinpah's "Ride the High Country", Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea showing them how it was done old school. Magic
From Pajamas.....
"Not only has Hawaii’s governor-elect, Neil Abercrombie, just announced that he is on a mission to bury the “Birther” issue, but Chris “Obama-sends-a-tingle-up-my-leg” Matthews now wants to know why President Obama doesn’t release the darned document and put this relentlessly pursuing ghost to rest once and for all.
If Abercrombie and Matthews were utterly desperate Republican operatives, hog-tied to a sinking political ship, I might understand the newly reincarnated brouhaha. But both these men are as-liberal-as-liberal-gets Democrats. And Republicans, at this juncture, are anything but desperate. They are set to begin the 112th Congress with the clout of a mid-term election landslide not seen since 1938.
So, what on earth would motivate a governor-elect with more real problems than any sane man would want on his plate to go fiddling around in an issue, which for all intents and purposes, is as dead as a doornail?
It simply makes no sense in the real world, where real unemployment still hovers at double-digits, where the president is about to face a real hostile Congress and in an atmosphere where the season’s holly- jolly spirit is about to melt faster than snow on the ground in Atlanta.
If you ask me, this folderol of reincarnating the “Birther” issue by two prominent liberal Democrats just smacks of orchestrated political psy-ops. Hoping to get a prominent and public rise out of Republicans and/or conservative pundits, these two utterly loyal-to-the-president guys — Abercrombie and Matthews — are simply creating a diversion in the hopes that their party can regain some of the traction it’s lost over the past 2 years.
Now, I’ve never fit the standard, press-defined definition of a “Birther.” I do believe that the president was born in Hawaii. I’ve written only one column on the “Birther” controversy and that was back in August 2009. As I opined back then, the whole controversy has legs because of the complete dearth of documentation regarding this president. No presidential candidate of the past 30 years has been permitted the level of secrecy and non-disclosure that President Obama received.
To date the following are all undisclosed:
1) 1961 long-form, original, signed birth certificate
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s repatriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
8 ) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released.
10) Columbia College records — not released
11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
12) Harvard Law School records — not released
13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
16) Obama’s medical records — not released
17) Obama’s passport records — not released
In my opinion — as a civics-minded citizen — Obama’s as yet unreleased original long-form birth certificate from the state of Hawaii is merely the tip of a mysterious iceberg when it comes to the 44th president of the United States. Any journalist worth an ounce of salt would be curious as to why any presidential candidate would conceal nearly every documented item from his own past. Obviously, America does not have many remaining curious journalists."
Must be tough watching a black man flip you the digit, eh Redwood.
further proof that bho is a pawn--set forth upon us in the US...by whom or what--you all know--otherwise his birth certificate would have been demanded...
C-CS
Is there such a thing as a Certificate of Dead Birth?
I find the term "Certificate of Live Birth" bizarre. It sounds ridiculous -- like most Gubmintese.
I do believe that even if someone could come up with positive proof Obama was NOT born in the USA, IT WOULD NOT DISLODGE HIM from OFFICE.
We have lost THAT much respect for the Constitution, for the Law and for our history.
By closing ranks and hanging tough -- as D'Rats always do -- they succeed -- with the enormous, all-pervasive aid of Big Media, of course, -- in making anyone who questions D'Rat officials, D'Rat policies and D'rat activities look like a "fanatic," a "sore loser," a member of "the lunatic fringe," a "crank," a "mean-spirited SOB," etc.
So, whenever Chicken Little is played by a Democrat, you'd better BELIEVE the sky is falling, or YOU will be SORRY.
With that in mind I hesitate even to ask politely, BUT ...
WHY doesn't Obrother PRODUCE irrefutable proof of his natural-born citizenship -- IF that proof truly exists?
WHY? WHY? WHY?
~ FreeThinke
His certificate of "still birth" doesn't prove a thing.
Ducky, you always bring up race in such a very ugly way it makes me wonder about you..sad.
FT, I agree "live birth"..very odd terminology.
FT, all the posturing & poo-poo'ing & putting off in this matter makes him look more & more like he has something to hide. Simply showing it would shut all the "birther's" up once & for all. It's not like it is an unimportant issue!
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