I loved everything Borgnine ever did, particularly MARTY. I had a friend who, when we were both still single, I'd do things with like going to the movies, mostly going to dinner, or (believe it or not) playing pool!.......we'd try to decide what to do and always quote from the film... "What do you want to do, Marty? I don't know what do YOU want to do.." like they did in the film....
I guess he doesn't have to say THAT anymore. I loved Marty.
I hated Borgnine's guts as Sgt Judson in From Here to Eternity......he pummeled Maggio and we all hated him for it.....Rest in Peace, Mr. Borgnine. You were a terrific actor.
z
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... or (believe it or not) playing pool!
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I can't picture z as Piper Laurie to someone's Fast Eddie Felson.
I wish Borgnine had been more selective. He wasted a lot of talent on trivial parts.
Thought his best was Dutch in The Wild Bunch but he just didn't have it as Katczinski in that terrible remake of All Quiet on the Western Front.
He married Katy Jurado and lived to tell about it. To his credit he kept
quiet about it.
RIP
RIP Quentin
You'd be surprised, Ducky...me and Melinda playing pool, putting ZZ Top on the juke box, eating pizza and drinking beer. ONe of the rare times I DO drink beer! There, and when I have the amazing Philly Cheesesteak at Santa Monica's THe Shack, where they fly the buns in from Philly.
"She's got legggggs..." Slam DUNK.
Beak, he was married five times........."Beautiful, but a tiger." is what he said about Jurado. I never liked her acting or her looks, did you?
Ethel Merman was his third wife for one month; I guess everything wasn't coming up roses? :-)
His fifth wife made a fortune as Tova Borgnine, selling Tova fragrances, etc., which I hear are really wonderful.
Elbro, I forgot about McHale's Navy....
He was a real sailor too, served on WWII
z, Borgnine played Sgt. Judson and beat Maggio (Frank Sinatra). Prewitt later kills Judson.
Ducky, I just changed my post...you're so right, it was Maggio he beat up and Prewitt killed him later. THanks for the corrections.
By the way, What did you mean about Judy Garland and the (extremely wonderful British film) Brief Encounter at Silverfiddle's post? She wasn't in it..and I wondered...?
Z,
Several of WWII veterans that were actors. I loved McHale's Navy although it was just a goofy show. Just a great actor and a good guy who was at the top of his game in Marty.
WHAT??!! Nooo!! I hadn't heard. Oh, what a loss!!
RIP Mr. Borgnine.
I was just being sarcastic about they article that implied Brief Encounter was somehow representative of the gay relationship. May as well have picked a Judy Garland film.
Sorry, I really hate Brief Encounter, Refuse to add it to my library. Sappy, sappy, sappy.
Oddly enough, or perhaps not, I completely agree with Ducky. Borgnine was spectacular as Dutch. An underappreciated role.
Ethel Merman could jam Russian radar.
BZ
Jurardo was an exotic beauty whose acting range was likely limited by the roles she got. Her temper and brutal personality were widely known
but Borgnine said little. Tiger was an understatement
Yes he did many roles Airwolf, McHales Navy and Ice Station Zebra.
Marty was his best.
I think he is in the Cowboy Hall of fame along with Eli Wallach. Can't name too many of my people there.
Ducky, the old Brit film? I think it's very real....very possible. And it explores marriage so well, and the thoughts all spouses have......very touching.
BEAK!!!!! I'm laughing here...no, I think the Cowboy Hall of Fame has about as many of 'your people' as the Basketball Hall of Fame has :-)
Marty was definitely his very best film.
Imp, Mr. Z couldn't stand Sinatra...maybe he hits a nerve with you both for some reason?
I think Sinatra was very good in From Here to Eternity, his best bit of acting.
I believe that's the film they say the mafia or studio bosses gave him because he'd been kind of sagging in popularity? And this brought him back. I don't remember, but that's what I've heard.
Ducky
Borgnine was assumed by many to be Jewish but in fact he was Italian. He did have a Jewish step father and was clearly comfortable with Jews and passed through a few Catskills Resort.
There are quite a few Jews in ever
Hall of fame Red Auerbach, Larry Brown, Dolph Schayes, Sue Bird, Nacy Lieberman. Baseball Hank Greenberg, Sandy Koufax, Lou Brodeau. Football Lyle Alzado and Sid Luckman. Apparently there are
plenty of Jews in Canooing and Judo. More Jewish Figure skaters than you would assuume and even Jewish Professional Wrestlers.
There is likely more than Eli Walach in the list of great Wesyern Performers. There were Jews who died at the Alamo along with the guy who jumped the wall Louis Moses Rose. There was a real Jewish gunslinger or two, sorry ballad of Irving. There were no mohels who branded cows by night.
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"I hated Borgnine's guts as Sgt Judson in From Here to Eternity.."
Not me...I knew Sinatra was a punk from Bayonne and deserved a beat down. The man had a very over active prostate if you ask me.
He did sing well though...but as an actor...he was very over rated when you consider his competition was Steve McQueen....
McQueen...was a mans man....Sinatra was a saddle shoes high school queen.
Z - I never saw Marty - but thought Ernest Borgnine was great in everything I did see him in.
He lived a good long life.
"maybe he hits a nerve with you both for some reason?"
The man lacked humility...he was way too arrogant and rough around the edges. He was IMHO...the worst of the Rat pack.
The Kennedy's knew it and didn't want any part of him...much to his everlasting embarrassment.
Peter Lawford was almost disowned by them....so he kept his distance too.
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