Friday, May 25, 2012

Planned Parenthood's best kept secret:

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words
"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
Editor of The Birth Control Review from 1917 to 1938. Founder of Planned Parenthood, the largest abortion provider in the world.  (Z: Please make sure you read the end of the post!)

Her goal in life:

Sanger admitted her entire life's purpose was to promote birth control. An Autobiography, p. 194

Helped to establish the research bureau that financed "the pill," she contributed toward the work of the German doctor who developed the IUD. Sanger espoused the thinking of eugenicists -- similar to Darwin's "survival of the fittest" -- but related the concept to human society, saying the genetic makeup of the poor, and minorities, for example, was inferior. Pivot of Civilization, by Margaret Sanger, 1922, p. 80 
 
On mandatory sterilization of the poor:

One of Sanger's greatest influences, sexologist/eugenicist Dr. Havelock Ellis (with whom she had an affair, leading to her divorce from her first husband), urged mandatory sterilization of the poor as a prerequisite to receiving any public aid. 


On eradicating 'bad stocks':

The goal of eugenicists is "to prevent the multiplication of bad stocks," wrote Dr. Ernst Rudin in the April 1933 Birth Control Review (of which Sanger was editor). Another article exhorted Americans to "restrict the propagation of those physically, mentally and socially inadequate."

On blacks, immigrants and indigents:

"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people.”

On sterilization & racial purification:
Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
On the right of married couples to bear children:
Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932
On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities:

"More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12
On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage:

"This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me in the solution of marriage problems... Knowledge of sex truths frankly and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable - these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger generation." Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano's, New York, 1927)

On the extermination of blacks:

"We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."  

On respecting the rights of the mentally ill:

In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107
On adultery:

A woman's physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11
On marital sex:

"The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. 

On abortion:

"Criminal' abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among married women." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the YMCA and YWCA:

"...brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!"), The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the Catholic Church's view of contraception:

"...enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE INCUBATOR." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On motherhood:

"I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine." 

Z: I have all the sources if you're interested, or if you try to dispute this favorite of the Left's above mentioned opinions. 

One might say she's another "Robert Byrd of the Democrat party"...him being so loved and having been a KKK Recruiter.  right?    HERE is a fascinating blog on Sanger if you're interested.  Coincidentally, she's speaking to Klan "Gals" ...My GOD.
(thanks, M)


79 comments:

FairWitness said...

Effective, successful, human-exterminating evil. Her standards for human beings worthy of life would have excluded most of us. What a demented view of life. And the organization she founded receives billions of dollars in federal funding every year. Hard to come to terms with just how evil our government is. We're funding the wholesale slaughter of human beings who should become future Americans. We are stealing God's gift of life and we have no right to do so. I keep thinking about what Pope John Paul II said so passionately,

"When God gives life, it is forever."

Elmers Brother said...

A whole generation of blacks have been aborted. Shame on us.

Always On Watch said...

Yet, Sanger is upheld in our schools and sometimes even in the media as such a humanitarian, "a woman ahead of her time." Pfffft.

Sam Huntington said...

It is no surprise that the Nazis became fascinated with Sanger and her Eugenicist ideals. They even ended up using them to rid themselves of the "inferior" Jew. It is also no surprise that Sanger today remains the darling of Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. What evil filth! Wait for it: any moment now, Lib-dip will be around to defend Sanger and call you a liar. By the way, Liberalmann is the result of Hillary Clinton’s thesis, “It takes a village to raise an idiot.”

FairWitness said...

Truly Z, EB & AOW, this radical, EVIL philosophy and agenda is successfully killing human beings and has been doing so for decades. No wonder America is in such decline. We don't protect the lives of the totally helpless, unborn in our society. It makes me mad and sad and sick.

Ducky's here said...

"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

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And in those times when the living conditions of the poor were absolutely brutal this statement isn't as cold hearted as it seems.

Life was short and brutal for children but the fringe right doesn't want to consider Sanger's advocacy of birth control.

She watched her mother suffer several miscarriages and die very young. So, as usual with the fringe right, Sanger's life is quite a bit more complex than they present (isn't everything).

Ducky's here said...

Turn over a rock, find Herman Cain

He seems to have embraced the Elmo/Sam school of manufactured history.

Right Truth said...

I had heard some of that before, but wow, just wow. In their own words, in her own words. Obama has many in his administration who also follow the theory that everything wrong with the world can be tracked back to over population, population control, which of course abortion is key.

I could never understand why Blacks didn't understand that PP doesn't care one thing about them as a race, yet the majority vote Democrat.

Debbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com

Z said...

Ducky, are you joking?
You honestly can't see the ugliness in all of this, as a Catholic, at least?

You said "Life was short and brutal for children but the fringe right doesn't want to consider Sanger's advocacy of birth control."

Who IS the 'fringe right' and which of us here at my blog doesn't agree with birth control? I'd love a link to that.
BY the way, do you consider abortion an acceptable form of birth control? Is it her advocacy of black babies which most pleases you? I like to think that makes you a fringe lefty.

Debbie, it's stunning to see it laid out like this, isn't it...point after point, so heartless, murderous, uncaring and utterly racist.
IMagine her speaking to "Klan Gals"? My GOD. I didn't even know they existed.

A whole generation of Black children .... gone.
Perhaps her advent on the scene coincided to the end of orphanages. People might argue orphanages were always bad; has anyone heard of the abuse in foster homes? THAT is a secret most don't know about.

FairWitness said...

Ducky,

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ESPOUSING THE MURDER OF CHILDREN.

There is nothing new about the sanctity of life. The value of human life is timeless.

Brooke said...

Birth control or family planning between a husband and wife is one thing... Murdering a baby in the womb is quite another, especially considering Sanger was getting rid of those she considered undesirable.

Who the frick is she, or any other leftist, to decide who gets to live and who gets to be aborted?

And then we get into Obamacare. Yah, Palin was craaaaaazy for daring to bring up 'death panels.'

Z said...

Brooke said...

Birth control or family planning between a husband and wife is one thing... Murdering a baby in the womb is quite another, especially considering Sanger was getting rid of those she considered undesirable."

Z: not when the points here are so egregious and damning of Sanger that one lib commenter has to desperately find ONE POINT that tries to distract from ALL the rest..

Silverfiddle said...

Margaret Sanger is also a progressive pioneer, which explains much about the movement.

Liberalmann said...
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Liberalmann said...

Yup, simplistic wingnuts take quotes out of context to get the 'lesser' among you riled up and full of venom. These people have no critical thinking skills and who won't do a little research on a complex topic

The full Maybe putting the line in context will help us understand the root of this woman’s venom. That one line was taken out of context from Sanger’s book, Woman and the New Race (1920). The line in question comes from Chapter 5, “The Wickedness of Creating Large Families.” Upon closer inspection, we see that Congressman Smith has left out the word “large” before family.

Oh, I see. Margaret Sanger hated large families. Well, sure, who doesn’t hate The Waltons? Or The Brady Bunch?

But what if we read the entire paragraph or even the whole chapter? Will we find out whether she hated the Waltons or the Bradys or both?

Let’s check.

Apparently she hated miner families. Excessive childbirth in these families caused ill health in mothers, financial hardship to fathers, and I’ll quote directly for its effect on the children: “In the United States, some 300,000 children under one year of age die each twelve months. Approximately ninety per cent of these deaths are directly or indirectly due to malnutrition, to other diseased conditions resulting from poverty, or to excessive childbearing by the mother.”

To demonstrate her hate, Sanger provides us mortality statistics of miner children, quotes a study by Arthur Geissler, which was later cited by Dr. Alfred Ploetz before the First International Eugenic Congress. (Eugenics is a scary word; if we took it out of context we’d realize that that’s what Hitler was up to. And if we practiced some really sloppy thinking, we’d say Sanger = Hitler. But we’re much smarter than that.)

To return to the statistics of children surviving through their first year. The first five children of these large miner families had about a 75% survival rate. The sixth-, seventh- and eighth-born approach a 70% survival rate. The eighth and ninth, about a 65% chance. The tenth, 60%; the eleventh, 50%; and the twelfth, 40%.

Five sentences later, Sanger drops her bomb: “The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members. ”

I didn’t know the woman personally, but I don’t think Sanger was a proponent of infanticide: I think she was trying to say and do something about the infant mortality rate. But you shouldn’t believe me. This is, after all, nothing more than a 750-word soundbite.

Always On Watch said...

Sam said:

By the way, Liberalmann is the result of Hillary Clinton’s thesis, “It takes a village to raise an idiot.”

Damn, I like Sam's style.

Always On Watch said...

Well, I see that the Left has arrived here to "justify" murder. Not a surprise, though, is it?

Lisa said...

Of course the lefties are going back in history to justify the same thing going on in the present.
Just like they use the 14th amendment.
Always when it's convenient.

Ducky's here said...

No AOW, they didn't arrive to justify murder. They arrived to state that Sanger was a complex figure and the fringe right has misconstrued her life.

For instance, she NEVER advocated forced sterilization and has been inaccurately lumped with that movement.

Try Jean Baker's recent biography of Sanger. The Nation (shudder) gave it a pretty good review and felt it presented her warts and all.

I might give it a go myself after I finish the recent biography of Emma Goldman. It's important that home schoolers make themselves aware of American history which has become a black hole on the right.

Pris said...

Ducky and libman,
There isn't a time when human beings didn't have to deal with conditions they found very difficult.

Now, if one compares the trials of today to those long ago, the Duckies of the world can't fathom that those in the past could survive such difficulties.

But, they could and they did. For someone like Sanger, or George Bernard Shaw, they saw the poor, other races, and those they considered not intellectual enough, as inferior and used poverty or what they deemed as low class, as an excuse to promote murder to rid their society of people they considered worthless.

And of course we can't dismiss servitude as another form of this view of those who were considered beneath them.

In this regard, the left isn't a whole lot different today. They pander, promise help to those they deem inferior, and use them for their own ends.

The left still believes they're the enlightened ones, and the rest of us are mere mortals who are to be controlled. They call themselves "progressives", but of course, it's their progress and prosperity which matter.

The more things change, the more they stay the same, it's just the same old game, and that game is called power!

Bob said...

Ducky said, "Turn over a rock, find Herman Cain...

He seems to have embraced the Elmo/Sam school of manufactured history."

If you check your history, Ducky, Herman Cain is accurate. Not only does Herman Cain believe this, but also Van Jones, Al Sharpton, and even Jesse Jackson. Early birth control programs were directed at welfare communities, of which most were black. This was during the LBJ era.

The black community was screaming, "genocide". It was not a joke or political game. This may have been an unintended effect of government birth control programs, but that's how things went down.

Herman Cain and I remember this because we are the same age, and saw the same things, but from different perspectives.

Ducky's here said...

Pris, Sanger was involved in the birth control movement and had little to do with abortion.

Damn you people are ignorant.

Lisa said...

'But, they could and they did. For someone like Sanger, or George Bernard Shaw, they saw the poor, other races, and those they considered not intellectual enough, as inferior and used poverty or what they deemed as low class, as an excuse to promote murder to rid their society of people they considered worthless.'

That's right Pris which is why you will find most abortion clinics setting up shop in minority neighborhoods.

Mustang said...

"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." —Margaret Sanger

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members …" —Margaret Sanger

Ducky’s denial of the real Margaret Sanger validates a long-held theory that Wonder Bread is a cause of retardation among Jew and Negro-hating communists.

Elmers Brother said...

Duhkkys logic is its better to murder a child than for it to be poor. Being poor can be overcome....dead is dead. Damn you're stupid.

Elmers Brother said...

Abortion is one of the most racists industries in our country. 59% of black pregnamcies in NYC end in abortion and nearly 41% of Hispanic pregnancies. Why do you hate blacks duhkkky?

Elmers Brother said...

Martin Luther King said, The Negro cannot win as long as he is willing to sacrifice the lives of his children for comfort and safety.” How can the “Dream” survive if we murder t children? Every aborted baby is like a slave in the womb of his or mother. The mother decides his or her fate.

We can quibble about the numbers duhkkky but the fact is that the abortion industry targets minorities and though abortions overall are down abortions among minorities are up over 18%.

Ducky's here said...

Well mustang if you take into account the times, many children died in childhood and urban conditions were horrendous. You know, Jacob Riis and all that liberal crusading.

So Sanger's statement has to be seen in that context.

As for the second quote. it's true. She did not want to be seen as supporting racial eugenics and was opposed to the idea.
One of the early supporters of racial eugenics was your man Winston Churchill. He was in big with the social Darwinists before Sanger was an adult.

But as I say, it's very difficult for the fringe right to understand American history since they have never studied it. Being reminded that the South got its butt kicked just brings tears to their eyes.

But on the outside chance you want a more complete picture of Sanger there are several good biographies.


Tickle Me Elmo, we're discussing Margaret Sanger and the early birth control movement.
Now if blacks were forced to have abortions it would be a travesty but they aren't. Interesting that much of the early forced eugenics sterilizations were given to Southern whites. Now on that, I'm ambivalent.

Ducky's here said...

I don't get it Tickle Me Elmo. I thought the right wing line was that those shiftless blacks had as many kids as possible to get the welfare checks.

Make up your mind. Maybe Limbaugh has a definitive statement.

Elmers Brother said...

I don't get it Tickle Me Elmo. I thought the right wing line was that those shiftless blacks had as many kids as possible to get the welfare checks.

Any more red herrings duhkkky? I mean really duhkkky why the hatred of black babies? Why the support for an industry (aka corporation ) that murders minority children in untold numbers? Teddy Roosevelt was a eugenics man too BTW.

Elmers Brother said...

What is more Existential To the black race than the murder of its unborn children ?

Z said...

MY GOD, the liberals here ARE justifying murder.

SAM: You are a profit and I'll bet the dope didn't even read the comments; I honestly believe he's afraid he'll finally learn something .... I hope you come back and address the liberals here.

And Sanger? Please read the Wikipedia information, where Ducky got his. They LOVE her.

She started us down such an ugly path and her words in my post only support that.


MY GOD...who could honor this the following quote?
"On the purpose of birth control:
The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)"

Bravo, liberals....
WHat a terrible legacy she leaves behind. She even believed that light skinned people were brighter than dark skinned, even within the black race.

Elmers Brother said...

Your link is broken duhKKKy and when I read it somewhere else it didn't dispute the numbers just Cains claim that there were more clinics in predominantly black neighborhoods. So your comment to me had nothing to do with the fact that 13 million black babies have been aborted since Roe v. Wade. Thanks for playing.

Elmers Brother said...

History duhKKKY? Lee was kickin ass up until Gettysburg. If it wasn't for joshua lawrence chamberlain you'd be living in the country of massachusetts right now.

Elmers Brother said...

I'm no defender of the South just your ridiculous statement about conservatives and history

Elmers Brother said...

Before you embarrass yourself anymore, I recommend Bruce Catton DuhKKKy. He's a very good Civil War historian...I have a dozen or so of his books. I'm willing to lend you a few if you'll send them back.

Always On Watch said...
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Law and Order Teacher said...

Z,
I always love it when leftists accuse conservatives of not knowing history. When I teach, I go out of my way not to indoctrinate students to my philosophy. I know this drives you crazy but I want my students to take in the facts and draw their own conclusions.

The difference between us and liberals is that we trust facts. We made mistakes aplenty in our history and I don't hide them. However, when you take your own philosophy and ascribe it to the words of others you are fundamentally dishonest and your morals are bankrupt. Hence, liberals love moral equivalence.

Always On Watch said...

Duck,
No AOW, they didn't arrive to justify murder.

Ahem. You missed the satire that I suggested with the comment. I was referring to you and Liberalmann having arrived to this thread.

Into the waste bin goes one of your favorite barbs: that the right cannot recognize satire.

Honestly, however, it is atypical of you NOT to recognize satire. A bad-meds day for you, or something?

Chuck said...

I never cease to be amazed that the left worships the cult of Planned Parenthood.

As to reading the comments on this thread, even I am a little stunned at how little disregard the left has for human life.

Z said...

Law & Order, I was just thinking about that yesterday. At our school, we teach kids to THINK and I hate it that our teachers who are conservative are too American to think of indoctrinating! It irritates me even while I respect it...darn!!

I think that, being a Christian high school, they are mostly Conservative, though so many of our teachers are SO young that some might be more liberal.

As a sub, I have to admit I try to open the eyes of kids to things that are biased. I had to show a film recently about Christianity and Israel or something...I kept stopping the film and pointing out TOTAL BIAS, utter and complete nonsensical stuff that I felt was dishonest. The host even identified himself as a gay man, which had NOTHING to do with the subject! As the film progressed, I'd stop it and say things like "Do you hear that this person said THAT and how you must question it, not just believe his take on something?" Etc ....they really listened, I think.b Particularly when I got to irked I said things under my breath like "What a bunch of GUFF"...! :-)

A few weeks later, the very young teacher I'd sub'd for said "Were you the sub who I had show that film about...?" I said I was and held my breath because it had upset me so much and I didn't know where he stood on it and I like him!
He said "I didn't agree with some of it, how about you?"
I said I was glad he'd brought it up because it's not my place to correct curriculum or criticize teachers' choices, but I said "It irritated the HELL out of me, now that you asked!" :-)
He laughed and agreed and then gave me 3 reasons he'd had it shown, all of which I'd figured....1. he wants them thinking 2. they need to see the subtle bias in films like that/opinions where one thinks it's a straight history piece, 3. He'd be reviewing it with them later, anyway.

Voila...I told him I wanted to kiss him for that!

All that to say YOU ARE RIGHT, I KNOW WE MUSTN'T INDOCTRINATE ON OUR SIDE BUT IT'S NOT FAIR WHEN THEIR SIDE IS SO BUSY AT IT. :-(

yoU SAID "However, when you take your own philosophy and ascribe it to the words of others you are fundamentally dishonest and your morals are bankrupt. Hence, liberals love moral equivalence."

Could you give me an example, pls?? Thanks! That fascinates me and I'm not sure I'm grasping your meaning.



AOW...I think Ducky got what you meant about it being HIM and responded to it.....meaning HE came to straighten US out (as he usually thinks he does)...

Isn't this story something? Quotes like hers are out there and the Left has to make excuses? WOW.

I'll give Ducky the fact that she did not advocate abortion, particularly...but MY GOSH to suddenly say none of us agrees with birth control because of our not championing HER is NUTS.
And to say she didn't do a LOT of harm and said EXTREMELY racist things is just unthinking.

Liberalmann said...

BOB SAID: Early birth control programs were directed at welfare communities, of which most were black."

Wrong, these we early 'Planned Parenthood Centers' and were offered to low income inner city people who could not afford health screening and contraception. Abortions were 3% of what they do. But on keep buying the crap from the right. You always do.

Jan said...
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Jan said...

I think that what Sanger was advocating had nothing to do with sparing a poor child a hard life. I think what she wanted was to wipe out anyone who was, from her perspective, inferior, in any way.

Even if she may have been interested in preventing conception, she certainly had no compunction to killing them in the womb once they were conceived.

The thing that really gets me, is that many who cry the loudest about a woman's right to kill an innocent, unborn child, are among the most rabid protestors against the death sentence.

Sorry, Ducky, but there is no justification for what Margaret Sanger set into motion...not then, and not now.

BTW..I'm surprised that you ever admitted that you were from Alabama, considering your low opinion of anything Southern, and your highly evolved sense of self since getting out of there.

As for us not knowing history, please don't flatter yourself in thinking that you do. Unfortunately, I think you, and a lot of others have a very skewed understanding of it.

I don't understand that, in your case, because I think you are old enough that at least some of it was being taught, truthfully, at the time you would have been getting your education.

But then, some of us just choose what we want to believe, and if we don't like the rest of it, we change it to suit ourselves, and to heck with the real truth.

Z said...

Bob was absolutely right, of course.


Jan, you are so right and thanks for this excellent comment. But who could read these quotes from Sanger and think otherwise? (did you see how they're supposedly 'out of context', according to one of the libs here? :-) Anything that doesn't suit THEM is 'out of context'..

Sanger reviled anything that was imperfect, less than highly intelligent, etc etc.....she was anti human, anti love, and anti decency, masquerading behind "not wanting the poor to repeat the cycle of poverty"...BS

Impertinent said...

I'll likely catch hell for this observation but....I don't think African Americans have to worry one bit about Sanger so long as there's studs that "father" 30 off spring by 11 different "mothers".

It's clear to me that Planned Parenthood is as mysterious and non existent to these folks as the purported claims of a flying pig.

What I do think is this..why should any law abiding productive tax paying member of our society be forced to pay for this animals procreative, unlimited Testosterone fueled "abilities" to burden us with his offspring?

It's clear that he could care less about the outcome and the impact on society that his irresponsible, criminal seed planting, ,fornicating has on the children or the 11 incubators of his crimes against all of them.

30 illegitimate offspring producing more of the same....is and should be a crime, punishable by at the very least...Castration of this pig.

I wonder how much he would have laughed about this if he had know beforehand that this is the punishment he should have received.

Ducky's here said...

If it wasn't for joshua lawrence chamberlain you'd be living in the country of massachusetts right now.

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Yeah, don't send a bunch of punks from Alabama against Mainers.

His rallying speech sounded a bit like prince Hal's. That's what a New England liberal education will do for you.

Ducky's here said...

@Jan --
Sorry, Ducky, but there is no justification for what Margaret Sanger set into motion...not then, and not now.
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Buy a vowel Jan. or are you one of the 5% of American women who didn't use birth control?

Again, Sanger was primarily in the forefront of a movement for birth control.

She was tangentially in the eugenics movement which was rife throughout America. At no time did she advocate forced sterilization. She did see birth control as a means to limit the botched abortions women were experiencing at the time.

See the thing is, z, Elmo and the rest seem to think they've uncovered something. As usual they are way behind the curve and demonstrate their inability to manage complex topics.

Do you oppose birth control? Good luck, that kind of foolishness gets Obama plenty of votes.

Z said...

Ducky, exactly HOW MANY TIMES does any of us have to say we never said we're against birth control for you to hear us?

I give up.

Keep thinking she's GREAT after reading those quotes...GOOD FOR YOU! :-)

Impertinent said...

"that kind of foolishness gets Obama plenty of votes..."


Yup...just like his cocaine and "Chooming" abuse gets him cred in the lowlife arena.

Only all the stoners could relate to this in the ghetto.

Here's your drug addicted "hero"...

http://tinyurl.com/c92t32t

Impertinent said...

There just happens to be too many inescapable truths.

Which sadly, too many of us want to ignore.

For the sake of "diversity" or PC nonsense.

Elmers Brother said...

DuhKKKy can use any euphemism he wants...its like calling genocide population control or a retreat a strategic withdrawal...abortion is still the killing of an unborn child. Legal abortions are also the fifth leading cause of death among pregnant women

Elmers Brother said...

I admire Chamberlain greatly. Grant thought enough of him that he was placed in charge of accepting Confederate weapons at Appomattox. He had the whole Union Army salute them. He was keenly aware of Lincolns desire for reconciliation, something it seems duhKKKy believes the South still doesn't deserve.

Elmers Brother said...

What we'd prefer is for people to be responsible, we understand the subject duhKKKy we simply choose not to morally equivocate abortion..murder of an unborn child with responsible forms of birth control....like abstinence. Lack of self control should not mean the death of a child, especially when one considers that 99.6% of abortions are for convenience. We also support organizations that help pregnant women adopt or keep their child.

Elmers Brother said...

Chamberlain was a devout Christian and had planned to go overseas as a missionary. He knew multiple languages and eventually was a professor of oratory and rhetoric. He would later serve as Dean of Bowdoin college and elected governor of Maine four times. He was wounded six times in battle, one thought to be mortal. Taken to a field hospital to die hos brother convinced a doctor to attempt to save his life. He lived, though he was in pain the rest of his life. I have read one of his accounts titled The Passing of the Armies

98ZJUSMC said...

It really is funny watching Leftists and Liberals tie themselves in knots defending a racial eugenicist who called blacks and immigrants "human weeds".

But then, they have to don't they?

To admit the truth subverts a corrupt worldview they simply refuse to reconsider. In keeping with their self-righteous arrogance and carefully constructed dishonesty, genocide becomes birth control and virulent racial bigotry becomes a just crusade to create a "race of thoroughbreds". Where has this been heard before, hmmm?

Scratch a liberal and you find a lurking fascist. Leftists don't even bother with pretenses.

Ahh....the benefits of a New England liberal education, eh?

beakerkin said...

Daniel Flynn covers this topic in Intelectual Morons.

This is the hidden history that the left never wants to discuss.

I am not pro life and I want to create a DNA test to find out which unborn children are going to live a sick and unhealthy lifestyle as communists like Ducky. Currently there are no tests to predict which kids will come out of the communist closet. It is a societal advantage
when deranged exponents of political criminality are removed from the planet.

Abort the Duck

Mark said...

"Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child"

That's not a bad idea, actually, but then there's that nasty old free will, human rights, 1st amendment stuff that kind of gets in the way, eh?

Liberalmann said...

Jan said: "Sorry, Ducky, but there is no justification for what Margaret Sanger set into motion...not then, and not now."

And what was that? Providing health screening and cancer screening to women who could otherwise not afford this? Saving lives of countless women?

Always On Watch said...

Z,
I KNOW WE MUSTN'T INDOCTRINATE ON OUR SIDE BUT IT'S NOT FAIR WHEN THEIR SIDE IS SO BUSY AT IT.

Indoctrination is one thing. Passing along "the culture" is another.

Z said...

Blogger Z said...

Mark, 'free will' in a woman like this? :-) GOod point

AOW....someone needs to remind students that not everybody can be a community organizer!

Libmann..right. So what you are suggesting so nastily is that we are women who, because we find Sanger a racist and worse, don't want health care for ourselves or other women. :-) DO YOU THINK? Honestly...not to be unkind, but is this kind of lack of thinking and 'logic' why you're voting for Obama, too?

98Z..and the left still calls Conservatives Fascists! They don't even understand the definition.

Beak, it's a little late :-) But, I'm sure he'd not have minded it his having been aborted meant his mother could eat steak instead of oatmeal.

Elmers Brother said...

The funny part about duhKKKy thinking we're not smart enough for this complex issue is that we understand the difference between responsible birth control and abortion and the difference in the semantics, Baby/infant = fetus, pro-choice = infancticide etc etc. Change the terms to something inocuous and it becomes oh so palatable to those who would otherwise find abortion repulsive.

Liberalmann said...

Z said: "
Libmann..right. So what you are suggesting so nastily is that we are women who, because we find Sanger a racist and worse, don't want health care for ourselves or other women. :-) DO YOU THINK? Honestly...not to be unkind, but is this kind of lack of thinking and 'logic' why you're voting for Obama, too?"

I wasn't 'nasty,' and your 'logic' is to believe out of context quotes.

Z said...

Right.Libmann... you win :-)

good luck

Elmers Brother said...

And what was that? Providing health screening and cancer screening to women who could otherwise not afford this? Saving lives of countless women?

A woman can receive this care at a lot of places hat do not provide abortions like Crisis Pregnancy Centers. The abortion industry is nothing more than blood money.

Z said...

Elbro, just the thought that someone would question our desire to see women healthy is so beyond the pale...imagine? Taking the information on this post about Sanger and divining that we feel women don't deserve health care?
Kind of makes us realize there are people who can't be reasoned with. voila

Elmers Brother said...

You're right Z. U just wanted to show that there's a thriving business side where women's health is put on the back burner for the all mighty dollar, with hard core sales techniques and sales goals involved.

Elmers Brother said...

I just wanted to show

Ed Bonderenka said...

"Providing health screening and cancer screening to women who could otherwise not afford this? Saving lives of countless women?"
And Hitler and Mussolini made the trains run on time. So?

Z said...

Elbro, I'm really glad you did that... it's another secret that's kept from Americans.

Liberalmann said...

Wtf are you talking about? God forgive so called Christians who demonize the poor.

Elmers Brother said...

You mean reminding people of those who exploit the poor for profit.

Z said...

Oh, my gosh..
Please link to where anyone demonized the poor? :-)

Elbro, there are certain things Libmann could NEVER understand.

But, through this conversation, I can REALLY SEE how Obama gets votes now. I don't mean that to be insulting to Lib, it's just that this subject has shown me something in liberals that even I'm shocked about. I can't describe it, but it's really troubling

Liberalmann said...

You see it as exploiting the poor and I see it as demonizing them and a way of justifying the elimination of valuable services. And what's 'troubling' is your faulty rationale and cynical position.

Elmers Brother said...

Murder is an invaluable service, we gotcha libmann.

Elmers Brother said...

I know Z. It's an ugly world the libs live in, exchanging terms to make the "service" palatable. Makes one wonder if libmann or duhkkky have ever seen a live birth or a partial birth abortion?

Z said...

Elbro, I don't think they care.

Elmers Brother said...

Their mothers decided to keep them despite their obvious mental deficiency.

Right Wing Theocrat said...

That is one creepy woman, no wonder the left latched onto her ideology.