Friday, May 30, 2008

Dems in "the business" voting McCain??


My friend Susan, a mucky-muck at SONY FILM and a political centrist, just called and said:


"You can't believe how many really liberal Democrat friends of mine here are whispering to me they're going to have to vote for McCain!"


This is huge. I wish it was November 1

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Z it doesn't surprise me in the least. From the start I always thought Hillary would be a stronger general election opponent than Barack. When the wackos started popping out of Obama's closet I knew this one wouldn't be that close. It's Mccain's to lose. If John doesn't step in it bad, he'll win BIG.

Morgan

Karen Townsend said...

Absolutely, just today I saw an interview with two Democrat women who have a new web site denouncing the treatment of Hillary and encouraging women to vote for McCain. It's wild. Geraldine Ferraro also said today that she sees a real problem for Obama and the women voters.

It just gets curiouser and curiouser.

Anonymous said...

Ok, sounds good, but there is a saying about a robust rotound lady singing...


Hope it works out that way.
But, we are talking about the Clintons.

WVDOTTR

Z said...

Hi WV...the thing is these people are saying they'll vote against EITHER liberal candidate, THAT's the good news. Hillary's shown what a shrew she is over and over again; Obama's too stuck on his teleprompter to have an original thought and his friends are getting curioser and curioser!

I just wish it was November 1 NOW. !!

kevin said...

Obama is Goerge McGovern.

Nixon trounced the far leftist in 1972 despite the Vietnam war.

Anonymous said...

Karen wrote:
"Absolutely, just today I saw an interview with two Democrat women who have a new web site denouncing the treatment of Hillary and encouraging women to vote for McCain. It's wild. Geraldine Ferraro also said today that she sees a real problem for Obama and the women voters."

Karen as far as I'm concerned this is GOOD and BAD.

It tells me that many women (most Dem females?) voters are MAD that the female socialist
has been pushed aside in favor of the male socialist. And because of that, they are willing to ignore the admitedly small ideological differences to jump party boundries and vote for the "moderate" Republican.

This emotional voting works in our favor THIS time, but it's an IDIOTIC way to vote and a long term danger to our way of life, which depends on an informed and educated electorate. I'll never understand the mindset which compels people to vote based on race, sex, or creed.

When Joe Leiberman ran as Gore's V.P. in 1999 it was a time of great pride for me as a Jew. Here was a guy who worshipped like me being considered for the 2nd highest office in the land! He would have been one well-aimed bullet away from the top job.

Having said that, I wouldn't have voted for the Gore-Leiberman ticket at the point of a shotgun! Political convictions would have prevented me from voting for a couple of wretched socialists. Old Joe's not "wretched", but you get my point. Beliefs and ideological convictions should be the guide posts for our voting, not the manner in which we use the bathroom.

Karen I understand that I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but it helps to vent. :-)

Morgan

Z said...

Morgan, too bad everyone doesn't have your integrity.

But I am sure Karen does, and I like to think I do!..I think both of us would agree with your stance......but, maybe we're Machiavellian, we have to justify the means because this 'end' is SO important.

I supposed voting has always been like this; someone likes the 'handsome' one, someone likes 'the guy from MY home state', 'the guy who seems to cherish his wife'?, huh? Maybe it doesn't say quite what you fear it does about women voting McCain, but, at least they ARE! Thank GOD that, at least, they're not saying "Vote for McCain because at least he's not Black", right? THANK GOD.

Karen Townsend said...

Morgan,
I agree with most of your reply. The Dems are in the mess they are in right now because they have relied on identity politics for so long. And, took the black vote for granted. The Hillary voters (mostly older white women and lower income folks) are rightfully peeved that the msm and party leaders are so excited about the first serious black candidate that they've gone off the cliff for him. Liberal white guilt is what it used to be called.

I, unfortunately, think the general voting population is neither informed nor particularly intelligent. If the voters were truly involved and curious enough to look into issues that future leaders will face, a candidate like Obama would never even enter into the Presidential contest.

Z said...

karen, right. The problem is we've raised a generation who doesn't ask questions. That's a reflection of our indoctrinating professors. "Believe what I think..."
HOW can people hear CHANGE and react so happily to it and not ask "who's paying for it?" "what's it entail?"

They DON'T CARE....Also, it's the HATE BUSH FIRST crowd, isn't it. ANYTHING BUT BUSH is their response........ridiculous.

Papa Frank said...

Neither democratic candidate has yet realized that they are not running against George Bush. This will be their downfall. It doesn't matter if you beat WHO you are running against if you you choose to run against is not in the race. Those who think for themselves do not find John McCain to be anything like George Bush. Who would have thought that Hillary has the potential to hand the Presidency to a Republican candidate? Amazing times were living in.

Anonymous said...

You ladies might think this sounds funny, but I personally think there's very little difference between Hillary and McCain!

Hillary's a hard-core leftist who will say or do literally ANYTHING to get elected. IOW she's all about her own quest for power.

Johnny-boy is a committed-well, what ARE his convictions? He will say or do literally ANYTHING to maintain his power and be elected President. Have you ever asked yourself: Exactly what does McCain believe in that CANNOT be jettisoned if it interfere's with his quest for power?

The one answer that most will pounce on is "McCain believes in defending America."
Most people don't understand how tenuous that position actually is. If our war in Iraq seriously impeded his reelection as President, he'd FIND a reason to have us declare victory and skeedadddle!

People without strong core principles that they are willing to defend and live by don't deserve our vote. I'm mainly talking about Populists like McCain and Hillary.

Obama is a collectivist vermin who must be kept from the Oval Office. Having said that, I respect him at some level-just a little-because he actually BELIEVES in something and refuses to budge on his beliefs. He has the MOST leftist voting record in the Senate and is quite proud of it. I would trust his word before EITHER Hillary or McCain.

Do we EVER have some bad choices this time!?

Morgan

Mike's America said...

I wonder how many of these stories of libs who will vote for McCain hold up in the next 156 days until the election?

It's clear there is an anger among women who see their chance at the White House yanked away by a relatively unqualifed male who is being worshipped for style while having no substance.

But when it comes down to the issues, will they go with the much more liberal Obama, or the only slightly right of center McCain?

McCain was my next to last choice for GOP nominee (Huckabee was my last choice, and Ron Paul doesn't count at all). But he may be the one GOP nominee who can appeal to these centrist and slightly left of center voters.

The problem is that centrist voters cannot be counted on to do the grass roots work of a campaign and they don't donate money.

The conservative GOP base, the ones who do the work and fork over the cash, aren't too thrilled with McCain.

So, Obama can count on the motivated hardcore Moveon.org/Soros liberals to do the work but who can McCain count on to do the same for him?

Anonymous said...

Mike I'm one of those grass roots guys who is SO angry that I resigned my position at the Republican executive Committee here in St. John's Cty. FL.

There's a "palace coup" going on and I absolutely REFUSE to help them destroy my party. This global warming garbage will destroy our way of life more thoroughly than the Muzzies ever could. I know the arguments for and against what I did, I think in the long run the ONLY way to keep this country safe is a CONSERVATIVE Republican Party.

Morgan

Anonymous said...

Z, I'm finding the same thing. I'm sure the McCain campaign is too.

His problem will be catering too much to the disaffected Dems and independents and taking conservatives for granted.

He risks losing via the stay at home Republicans. I'm not one of them because we must stay on offense in the war.

Pris

Z said...

Mike, for women to put their gender agenda in front of the wellbeing of our country is repulsive to me, a woman.
Most of these are liberals, anyway, or they'd see what a stupid choice that is.

frankfamily, just today I heard Obama talk about how "George Bush is not running"..they're gearing up for McCain now.

If it's true that Murdoch is backing Obama, we have bigger problems than I thought.

Morgan, I don't think you're at all ridiculous for suggesting there isn't too much a difference between Hillary and McCain. I'm hoping and praying that he'll get elected and then turn on the lefties he had to pander to to get there. He knows he'll only have four years and he can turn back into a true conservative after the election;

Except, I don't think he ever truly WAS one!! We're facing a terrible time and, VERY SADLY, we have to promote someone who, like Priscilla says so adeptly in the last sentence of her excellent LETTER TO THE GOP I hope you all read and comment on, McCain will just be a slower train to hell, but it's socialist hell he might be leading us to.

Anonymous said...

"A slower train to hell..."
You wrote this about Mccain's version of the Socialist state that he'll usher in with this Cap-n-trade monstrosity. It'll make Bush's prescription drug program look like a lemonade stand!
I may leave the Prez column blank.

Morgan

Z said...

Morgan. A blank Prez column is a vote for a Democrat, you know that!! We have to vote like we're taking Castor Oil and then HOPE that McCain will WAKE UP. Sure, with a Dem congress, that's a tall order, but at least there's hope.

THINK SCOTUS, at least he'll do better THERE. SCOTUS!!

Anonymous said...

From your lips to G-d's ears Z. I'll probably have to e-mail you with the entirety of my misgivings on the subject. I really don't want to hurt Mac's chances, nor can I stomach him. So I'll drop the "hate". :-)

Morgan

nanc said...

i have to wonder what that says about mccain?

just sayin'...

*;[

Anonymous said...

Nanc I could EASILY write 4 single spaced pages about John. And NONE of it is flatterng. For me this goes back 8 years.

Morgan

Anonymous said...

Breaking news,
Obama is "resigning" from his church. LOL! The bovine squeeze issuing forth from this human sewer was perfectly good for the last 20 years, but NOW it's offended his delecate sensativities! LOL!

Morgan

MathewK said...

Well with the likes of B. Hussein browbeating them into voting for him or else. Can't blame em.

Doesn't say much for McCain though, Democrats wanting to vote for him.

Z said...

DO not drop the hate, Morgan..just vote for the dope! I don't even want to SEE the list; i have a headache right now, anyway, thank you very much! xxx

Ya, Obama said he thinks the church should be spared from politics. Pardon me, BUT didn't the CHURCH jump into politics and not the other way AROUND?

The man can't talk off script. And they call him ARTICULATE!

he and Michelle will decide on a new church in January. HOW convenient. Wouldn't you love him to get elected and decide to attend a mosque? wait for it.......

geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeZ!!

nanc said...

i'm curious to see what type of church the obamamama chooses.

i'm writing in someone like michael steele or beamish come election day. from what i've heard tell of those hoping to fill the v.p. spot, it's becomes increasingly difficult to take mccain seriously.

perhaps we need to begin a draft?

nanc said...

z - please see all comments here!

LMBFTO!

Rita Loca said...

I have to vote for McCain because the thought of Obama as commander in chief scares me silly!

Z said...

Hilarious, nanc! Good job!

JM...we HAVE to vote (nanc, you LISTENING???!!!) ...we have to remember the SUPREME COURT>

At least we have a chance that McCain wouldn't pick libs there...and they are LIFETIME appointees!! THIS is important.

Though I doubt if America will be the same country in even 5 years let alone a 'lifetime'...I'm grieving here, seriously. I honestly think I'm grieving NOW for what's to come.
I hear this from lots of Conservative friends? we're physically tired, we're sad, we're feeling like walking in wet sand...

something's up. I wish we had SOME GOOD news. SO much.

Anonymous said...

Z, I thought the fact that the Dem women were voting for McCain was good news? No?
I mean, yeah, it's creepy, but it's still kinda good. Er, no?
I'm so confused.
Dora has me all in a tizzy! :-P
It will get better.
The independents and dem. chicks will come out in support of McCain and he'll win in Nov.
I just know it.

Z said...

Pinky, MOrgan said this re: women switching from voting typically left to voting for McCain:

"It tells me that many women (most Dem females?) voters are MAD that the female socialist
has been pushed aside in favor of the male socialist. And because of that, they are willing to ignore the admitedly small ideological differences to jump party boundries and vote for the "moderate" Republican.

This emotional voting works in our favor THIS time, but it's an IDIOTIC way to vote and a long term danger to our way of life, which depends on an informed and educated electorate. I'll never understand the mindset which compels people to vote based on race, sex, or creed."

Yes, we're all glad they ARE, but Morgan's point is that it says a lot about women and about the electorage in general, I think.

I don't care WHO votes for him as long as they do. xx

Anonymous said...

Z,
I understand Morgan's point. It's dangerous to vote for a candidate based on emotion. That's what scared me about Obama's supporters at the Dem primary. I could tell that they were completely uninformed. Anyway, I'm in line with you on this one. Just get him in office and then pray that he realizes WHERE his loyalty lies.

Conservativees are sick and heartbroken at this point. I know.

Z said...

interesting, your last sentence. Go to FJ's and see his latest post.
He felt it.

Z said...

MCCAIN SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING BLOOMBERG FOR VP. See it at NewsMax. Sorry..I have to run; no time to get the URL.

Anyway....just suffice to say, we're DONE if this happens. I don't KNOW a conservative (icluding me) who'd vote for them. THAT would be the LAST STRAW.

OR...it this the Dems floating rumors? Please, God...