Saturday, January 24, 2009

Mr. Obama said some scary things on Friday...did you hear?

Khaki Elephant has an important piece on his blog:

Here's a snippet from the linked article in his excellent post....

"You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," he told top GOP leaders, whom he had invited to the White House to discuss his nearly $1 trillion stimulus package.

One White House official confirmed the comment but said he was simply trying to make a larger point about bipartisan efforts.

"There are big things that unify Republicans and Democrats," the official said. "We shouldn't let partisan politics derail what are very important things that need to get done."

That wasn't Obama's only jab at Republicans yesterday. (and what ARE the 'big things that unify Reps and Dems, by the way?)

While discussing the stimulus package with top lawmakers in the White House's Roosevelt Room, President Obama shot down a critic with a simple message.

"I won," he said, according to aides who were briefed on the meeting. "I will trump you on that."

Can we go forward with that attitude? This information REALLY bugs me....and, by the way....if one of those Republicans had had any courage, I'd have hoped he or she would have said "But, Mr. Obama, while we hardly have any time to listen to the radio during the day, maybe listening to Rush would help our country......maybe it would be better to let OUR 'partisan politics' enter into your thinking, too, just to have a mix? That's real bipartisanship... After all, they represent approximately 46% of the electorate." ??

My biggest worry is that "I won....I will trump you on that" comes from a frustration he's felt all his life with the Right, which he'd come to despise as bigoted, unkind, too focused on self-reliance and, therefore, selfish. Especially the white Right. I worry that this is payback and that's not really a mindset that's going to move us forward in a unified way. This really does scare me.

Please be praying that humility and an open heart and mind become the best parts of this president's demeanor.


z

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

To me it's clear what happens here: "I won, and, therefore, it will be done what I say".

His Majesty, be honest, don't hide behind the mantle of "bipartisanship" - as long as your definition of bipartisanship is not to move your position but rather ask the Republicans to join your position.

Folks, don't be astonished: That's what he did the whole campaign: His idea of "unify" is that everybody adopts his position. No change in that.

The sad thing is that there are plenty Republicans who follow his Majesty's strategy (dare I mention McCain?)! We need to stand up and tell those RINOs to take a hike and not vote for them again, ever.

Mr.Z

Kris said...

i has only just begun i fear...

kw

David Wyatt said...

Amen, Mr. Z.

Chuck said...

What Kris said. I think he could actually be worse than we feared. I wonder if he even cares about a second term? Maybe do all he can now and then get on with the being famous part.

Anonymous said...

He carries himself like a Roman Emperor. I don't think humility is a strong point of his.

Anonymous said...

I remember the MSM jumping on Bush in 2005 for his statement about having political capital and intending to spend it. How about equal indignation now? Or at least an end to the MSM'scharade of being the guardians of liberty. And the Yahoo! articles about Clark Kent stepping out of the phone booth and into the Oval Office are not what I have in mind.

Another good one (good example, not good aricle) is the one about Obama breaking from the Bush policy by not being devisive. Nothing devisive about a trillion dollar government program. Sure, some people oppose it, but they don't count because they are just being mean. They get a sadistic joy out of seeing other people lose jobs or insurance.

-Tio Bowser

Anonymous said...

Ditto Mr. Z.

And Z, I'm afraid that a man who thrives on grandiosity, roman columns and throngs of worshippers, does not know the meaning of humility, or it seems even the pretense of it.

We expected class? Uh, uh!

He can't take criticism either, constructive, or otherwise. Rush, Hannity, or others are no doubt intolerable to this thin skinned pretender to a non-existent throne.

I have a sneaking suspicion his intolerance for opposition extends to his own party as well.

Of course being a leftist, bipartisanship means you have to agree with him. You have to go along to get along.

The vaunted dissent they herald, is not meant for just anyone. Only them.
When the leftist says children must be taught to "question authority", why, he doesn't mean his authority.

In fact he want's an Obama youth corps. What is that? Scary, that's what.

Hang on folks it's going to be a bumpy ride.

Pris

Papa Frank said...

Maybe little Barry will take his ball and go home if everyone doesn't play nice.

Brooke said...

What Hermit said!!!

shoprat said...

Is he prepared to lose the next time around because he will?

Anonymous said...

Exactly, Mr. Z.
This is the real Obama.
I suspect the more he sees that the congress and senate actually make the bills, enact legislation and so forth, the more frustrated he will become.

I do not think the man actually understands how the government works.

And yes, that pose Obama has with his nose up in the air..oh my gosh,

makes me think of my grandmother saying a person could drown from rain , keeping their nose up in the air like that.

What an arrogant person Mr.Obama is.
Well, I say, let him learn.

The more he tries to force , the more resistence he will get.
And McCain and co. can go pound sand.


D.C. Itis is nasty to watch infect humans.

Obama and his gang are not living in reality.

But it is obvious the Democrats with Obama expect there to be only one party in this country, and this cannot stand.
WVDOTTR

RightKlik said...

This really shouldn't be surprising. Obama has voted with his party 100% of the time. That's his idea of bipartisanship. Conservatives are supposed to give up their convictions and do as they're told.

Cough, cough, TYRANT, ahem.
Excuse me. Something in my throat.

LASunsett said...

//...don't hide behind the mantle of "bipartisanship" - as long as your definition of bipartisanship is not to move your position but rather ask the Republicans to join your position.//

What few votes he ever cast as a US Senator should have told people the story. If he is a true centrist, his votes would reflect it. But they do not and now we have the old "my way or the highway" philosophy.

People bought the package because it was nicely wrapped and pleasing to the eye, with little regard to what was inside. (Not to shamelessly promote my blog on another, but I have posted something about this very concept, today.)

Anonymous said...

Speaking for myself Z, I don't really want to "move forward in a unified way." The MOST important thing our Republicans can do is to gum up the works for the next 4 years. Between an overwhelming majority of Republicans, and a handful (4-9) blue dog Dems in both chambers we can STOP some of this madness hopefully.

Our most important job for these 4 very dangerous years is to live up to Bill Buckley's description of Conservatives: To "stand athwart history and yell STOP!"

From the article you linked

"The response was to the objection by Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) to the president's proposal to increase benefits for low-income workers who don't owe federal income taxes."
GOOD FOR ERIC CANTOR! He objected to welfare! That's the sort of leadership we need! Hopefully folks, this is only the beginning of a stiffened Republican spine. Let McCain be Mon, excuse me, let McCain be McCain. Maybe we'll see some conservative resolve now.

Morgan

Steve Harkonnen said...

Obama comes off as a pompous ass. Hypocrisy reigns. It must go both ways...while he cries out for bipartisanship, what gives HIM the right to speak to our leaders in such a demeaning attitude?

And what of this crap about "I won?"

I don't think I've ever been this angry over Obama.

DaBlade said...

I have just re-upped my Rush 24/7 subscription.

More importantly, I pledge to continue my studies on "geeeeeZ".

Ducky's here said...

"I won".

Well let me remind my right wing brethren of their war cry after the much closer 2000 election, "You lost, get over it".

All you have now is Palin 2012, pretty grim but you dug your hole.

Anonymous said...

Excellent post! "Payback", I fear, is exactly what is on the minds of not only Obama but his cabinet and every lib on the Hill. We are in for a very dark 4 years.

Elmers Brother said...

consensus is the absence of leadership - Margaret Thatcher

Anonymous said...

The Obama simply has no real adult like qualities.
I don't care what anyone says, this man is very immature, and that is so dangerous.


So, good old George Mitchell for an envoy to the middle east.


As for saying that some of Bush's followers said...Get over it..well, there is the point, see.

George Bush was gracious to a fault.

Obama is a brat to a fault.

He does not play well with others.
Yes, it was Eric Cantor Obama made his snotty comment to.

Well, sorry, but we are not about having one party.


Mr.Obama has no idea on how to be a statesman .



Funnily enough, I just read that JOhn McCain is actually saying publically now that he cannot support this so called stimulus bill as it currently stands.

Oh my.


WVDOTTR

Z said...

"consensus in the absence of leadership" , Elbro...I'm hoping that every decision won't just be about PARTY and who's supporting it and payback if HE doesn't like it.
But then I worry about obama 'leading'.

Ducky...how about answering JMK on the George W Bush Legacy post? he had some excellent responses to yours.

DaBlade...thanks! Your blog rocks! we'll both keep 'studying', huh!?

Anonymous said...

Any Republican who grasps at Obama's bi-partisan figleaf will soon find himself naked and sodomized. Sincerity is not in the man's nature.

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with unity? It worked for the USSR, no?

-Tio Bowser

Z said...

FJ...amazing comment! SO true, sadly.

Tio..good one!!

Average American said...

Did you all think that bipartisan meant the Dems and the Reps? NObama is sorry for the confusion, he meant the extreme left and the way left of center left, those two parties, not yours.

Conservatives have got to come to the realization that for at least the next two years, the only way to lessen the negative impact of a NObama presidency on our beloved country is going to be to form a coalition with the more moderate faction of the Democratic party. On some issues at least, the Senate can still block some of the foolishness he puts forward. That won't happen if we don't work at it. The Republicans in the House and especially the Senate had best pick their battles carefully!

Law and Order Teacher said...

We're about to see some real change, all bad.

Let's see,

Prosecutions of Gitmo prisoners stopped.

Gitmo closed. Where will these fine citizens go? I would guess Illinois and Mass are out of the question.

Card check. So much for the secret ballot. Good enough for 200 plus years, but not now that unions are losing their power.

Freedom of Choice Act? Abortion on demand and doctors and nurses can't refuse to perform them. Freedom? For who? I hope the Catholics who voted for BO will be happy when this passes and it will.

Untold billions in "stimulus." Watch the pork fly in this one. TARP has already turned into a day at the trough. It will only get worse as more businesses and now states belly up to the bar.

Kumbaya diplomacy. Be nice to them, they'll be nice to us. HRC knows this will work. The Pentagon is overbudgeted? When we are attacked I'm sure we can talk our way out of anymore damage. "Please don't hurt us, we were nice to you."

This is only the beginning.

It will only get worse.

Z said...

Law and Order..it's so much worse than I'd feared, and SO SOON, that it's scaring me a lot...I just keep praying.
The Catholics are saying they'll close their hospitals, and they MUST. ABORTION ON DEMAND at a CATHOLIC (or any Christian) Hospital?
That'll be THIRTY PER CENT of American hospitals on US again, not paid for by Catholic charities, but ON US.$$$ MORE BILLS.
And less care. TRUST me. I love the Catholic hospital nearby me..it's incredibly good service.
Frankly, I doubt OURS would close, so that's a comfort knowing not ALL Catholic hospitals will close..St John's in Santa MOnica can't close!! but......some will.

Anonymous said...

No different than Bush bragging about how he won political capital by a mandate and intended to spend it, or that he was the decider, imo. You people are the biggest hypocrits around, and it seems your skin's as thin as paper too.

From what I heard everybody in the room laughed when he said "I won". Since when was it a crime to state a clear fact?

Anonymous said...

Prosecutions of Gitmo prisoners stopped? Uh, no, imbecile. You mean prosecutions started. We're actually going to stop this legal limbo circus and try them through the criminal justice system like they deserve.