Monday, January 26, 2009

We're rewarding ACORN?

Could ACORN get BILLIONS of our tax dollars? I just saw this and had to post it.
Thanks to Gateway Pundit and our friend Carol for the information...This could mean we will NEVER have a legal election again, you all know that. WOW
Shoprat, another fantastic blogger buddy, commented at Carol's that this could be PAYBACK.
I think he's probably right.



Elmers Brother said...

and to think this quote is off of the White House website:

End Deceptive Voting Practices: President Obama will sign into law his legislation that establishes harsh penalties for those who have engaged in voter fraud and provides voters who have been misinformed with accurate and full information so they can vote.

Ducky's here said...

Let me remind Elmer that ACORN was never accused of voter fraud.

Elmers Brother said...

let me remind duhkkky to read the links

ACORN has been accused of perpetrating voter registration fraud numerous times in the last several elections;

Elmers Brother said...


is reportedly under federal investigation

Z said...

Ducky, where were you during the last few campaigns?

There are more, but we all know, and I've got to run now.

We all know that Ducky is a non political group just aimed at getting everyone to vote, right? Oh, Ducky..........please!

christian soldier said...

Z-Thank you for the link ---
We can recover the high ground if we stand together...
We in CA have a sunny -clear day today...Time to walk the dog :-)

Ducky's here said...
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Ducky's here said...


Okay , now lets' continue. You hire 25000 people to go out and collect registration forms.

Now BY LAW those forms must be turned in to the voting commissions to determine if the information is accurate. Sometimes it isn't. That can occur because the registrant filled in inaccurate information or the gatherer filled in a claim fraudulently.

If you have a retail organization employing 25000 clerks do you think some of them shoplift? Of course they do and likewise some of the forms gatherers turned in false forms.

Many of them were fired and there was no indication this led to VOTER FRAUD which would have occurred if someone had actually voted under false means. That was NOT alleged.

Now, were you you folks?

Ducky's here said...

Oh and you can go to, do a search for ACORN and bring up their analysis of McCain's claims during the election which they evaluate as grossly misleading.

Anonymous said...

What does come under the Acorn umbrella? What exactly is "neighborhood stabilization activities"? It sounds like more than getting out the vote to me. Neighbor informing on neighbor? What?

What defines the left is control, micro-managing every aspect of our lives according to what the left deems acceptable.

Acorn represents community organizing on steroids. A national endeavor. To whom is Acorn answerable?

There's more to this than meets the eye. Time will provide the answer. I have the feeling it won't take too long.


WomanHonorThyself said...

o gosh of course he will reward the crooks Z!!

Will said...

Nothing says it better than this quote Google brought to me today from ABC News:
Obama: 'Rigid Ideology Has Overruled Sound Science'

I almost choked from laughing so hard!


Elmers Brother said...

the fact that ACORN is under investigation means we should give it some good ol' taxpayer money...please duhkkky

and duhkkky let's compare the McCain charge to say

the one about the election in Florida during 2000 being "stolen"...

Elmers Brother said...

and all those po' folk being disenfranchised


JMK said...

More pompous stupidity!

Elmers Brother posts a quote from a WH website that mentions harsher penalties for voter fraud...

Dopey Duck responds; "Let me remind Elmer that ACORN was never accused of voter fraud."

THEN, when it's shown that numerous ACORN workers engaged in rampant voter registration fraud (charged as "voter fraud"), in fact voter fraud (Ducky or JMK voting twice) is a far LESS serious offense than is large-scale voter registration fraud (Ducky or JMK registering dozens of fake people).

He lamely retreats to;


It's WORSE! Voter registration fraud is a MORE SERIOUS crime!

I hate doing this, but Ducky is so inept, I gues I'll have to make his argument for him.

In fact, neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes, although several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far seems to indicate that they faked the forms to get paid for work, rather than to stuff ballot boxes.

In recent years, ACORN employees have been investigated multiple times for voter registration fraud.

According to (a MUCH more reliable site than "ACORN workers have been convicted of submitting false voter registration forms in Colorado Springs in 2005, Kansas City, Mo., in 2006 and King County, Wash., in 2007. ACORN's Las Vegas office was raided by a state criminal investigator on Oct. 7, 2008.

"ACORN workers are also the subjects of ongoing investigations in Wisconsin, Missouri, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana. The Indiana investigation started in early October and may involve thousands of fraudulent registration forms.

"On Oct. 16 The Associated Press quoted two "senior law enforcement" officials as saying that the FBI is investigating ACORN seeking "any evidence of a coordinated national scam." The following day the Obama campaign's lawyer, Robert Bauer, sent a seven-page letter to the attorney general claiming that federal law enforcement officials were being improperly used to help McCain by suppressing the vote through "unsupported, spurious allegations of vote fraud." He asked that the investigation be transferred to the special prosecutor investigating the U.S. attorney firing scandal."

Moreover, voter fraud IS a bipartisan affair, so it's curious that Liberals would be cavalier about voter fraud that helps Liberal Democrats...that just doesn't seem to make any sense.

Allen Raymond a former Republican political operative went to federal prison after he pleaded guilty to charges of phone harassment, after jamming the phone lines of New Hampshire's Democratic Party on Election Day 2002.

An hour and a half into the jamming operation Raymond claims he received an e-mail from a Republican official, frantically telling him to shut down the calls. The e-mail read: "Chairman wishes not to proceed with this project ... insists it violates federal law."

Voter fraud is a very real problem in America. A well-written book on the subject is Votescam by Kenneth and James Collier (

Elmers Brother said...

There are now more than a dozen investigations of ACORN’s voter registration efforts, with allegations ranging from filing thousands of phony registrations to multiple forms to hiring felons convicted of seeming everything from child rape to identity theft. And now comes along more ACORN drama.

yeah forgive me duhkkky if I can't find it in my heart to think it a good thing that whether it's voter 'registration' fraud or 'voter' fraud that ACORN gets all that money or that Obama was involved with them. That's what makes the statement from his agenda ironic.

Ducky's here said...

"ACORN workers have been convicted of submitting false voter registration forms in Colorado Springs in 2005, Kansas City, Mo., in 2006 and King County, Wash., in 2007. ACORN's Las Vegas office was raided by a state criminal investigator on Oct. 7, 2008.


Yeah so what. As I said, they had 25000 people hired during the primary and it would be miraculous if some of them didn't turn in fraudulent forms.

You have done nothing to demonstrate any conspiracy at the top levels by ACORN. Nothing.

Ducky's here said...

Moreover, voter fraud IS a bipartisan affair, so it's curious that Liberals would be cavalier about voter fraud that helps Liberal Democrats...that just doesn't seem to make any sense.


Who the hell is cavalier about it?

Anyway, the way it goes in America is that the right makes attempts to deny access (invalid voter purging and similar tactics) and the left tries to promote "loose" access to the polls.

You haven't demonstrated any widespread conspiracy.

Ducky's here said...

In fact, neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes ...


That's what I said.

ACORN has had some employees charged with willfully submitting forged registrations. There was one case in Washington last year and he did close to a year in jail but that was not something that involved any of the officers or the board of ACORN.

Again, I would ask why you wouldn't expect a few violations in a large work force and do you have ANY hint of a higher level conspiracy.

Ducky's here said...

Oh, and I had meant factcheck not truthout. I guess I subconsciously figured if Elmer went to truthout he might get a shock.

If you look up the articles on factcheck they all say that McCain was WAY, WAY off the mark in his charges.

Z said...

I suppose you think Google has no bias either, right?

Look, YOUR SIDE IS WINNING!! We don't even have an honest fact check...PLEASE be honest enough to check into SNOPES, the biggest of the's laughable.

You'll win. We all lose.

Anonymous said...

Like the NAACP, ACORN has also been embezzled from, for millions $$$. Just one more reason they shouldn't be trusted with dime one.

Papa Frank said...

Not to mention that ACORN gets most its employees from the work release program. By the way Duckling, there were several CONVICTIONS right here in Missouri.

Papa Frank said...

From AP:
"In April, eight ACORN workers in St. Louis city and county pleaded guilty to federal election fraud for submitting false registration cards for the 2006 election. U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway said they submitted cards with false addresses and names, and forged signatures."


Papa Frank said...


Officials in Connecticut are investigating ACORN after the name of a 7-year-old girl was found on a registration card as a 27 year old.[32]
The Connecticut Elections Enforcement Commission is investigating a complaint that ACORN submitted fraudulent voter registration cards in Bridgeport. The complaint was filed by Joseph Borges, the registrar of voters for Bridgeport. He says he "found problems with numerous voter registration cards submitted by" the group. ACORN filed over 8,000 cards in Bridgeport.[33]
See Connecticut vote fraud news.
In Orange County, Florida, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement began in investigation in mid-October as to whether an ACORN worker forged an Orange County woman's signature on a voter registration form and then turned it in. A separate voter registration card for Mickey Mouse was turned in. ACORN workers in Florida report having a quota system under which they are paid $8.00/hour and must turn in 20 registration cards per work shift.[34]
See Florida vote fraud news.
ACORN submitted 5,000 voter registration forms in Lake County, Indiana in September and October 2008. Local election officials say that about half of the forms are fraudulent. Eric Weathersby, executive director of the group's Northwest Indiana office, said that workers were asked to bring in 20 registrations a day, but "it was not a quota they had to meet". Ruthann Hoagland of the Lake County election board said the first 2,100 cards they looked at were phony. "Everything on the card filled out looks exactly the same."[35],[36]
See Indiana vote fraud news.
In June 2008, a spokesman from Project Vote, an ACORN affiliate, acknowledged that 35 percent of the cards turned into Louisiana officials were duplicates. One woman had five cards turned in for her, and told election officials that she had completed none of them.
On October 23, it was learned that 50% of the 8,600 voter registrations turned in by the national group Voting Is Power, affiliated with ACORN, were incomplete or incorrectly filled out. U.S. Senator David Vitter, R-Metairie, has asked the state's three U.S. attorneys and its FBI special agent in charge to launch investigations.[37]
Ernie Roberson, the Caddo Parish Registrar of Voters, said the group's registrations make up "better than 5 percent of the registered voter base in Caddo that just magically appeared in our office over a 10-day period." Many cards had names and addresses taken from the phone book, and information on them, such as ethnicity, Social Security numbers, dates of birth or signatures, were false, or in some cases came from people who have been dead for some time.
Of the cards:
65% (5,600) were deemed invalid.
In Jefferson Parish, VIP turned in 2,689 cards, of which 1,135 — or 42 percent — were invalid."[37]
See Louisiana vote fraud news.
The Michigan Secretary of State told the press in September that Acorn had submitted "a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications."
See Michigan vote fraud news.
According to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, ACORN staff in two counties, Hennepin and Ramsey, turned in forms past the 10-day window allowed. The Hennepin County Attorney's office said on October 14 that it is investigating whether a voter registration processing lapse at the Minnesota ACORN office falls within guidelines for criminal prosecution. The International Falls Daily Journal asked for an investigation.[38],[39],[40]
See Minnesota vote fraud news.
In early October 2008, officials in Jackson County, Missouri, initiated an investigation of Acorn voter registrations. Charlene Davis, Jackson County's election board co-director said, "I don't even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy." The investigation discovered that more than 400 registration cards with false names and addresses were turned in by Acorn workers, and also identified in the one county about 100 duplicates, 280 addresses that don't exist, people who have driver's licenses that don't verify and Social Security numbers that don't verify. Some of the cards are without addresses.[41],[42] FBI spokeswoman Bridget Patton has been in contact with Missouri election officials about an investigation.[42]
Eight ex-ACORNworkers pled guilty in federal court to fraud charges in April for submitting registrations in 2006 with fake names, fake addresses, and forged signatures. Each may be sentenced to up to five years in jail and significant fines.[43]
See Missouri vote fraud news.
Earlier this month, Nevada's Democratic Secretary of State Ross Miller requested a raid on Acorn's offices, following complaints of false names and fictional addresses (including the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys).[44]
On July 7, 2008 the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that a Clark County, Nevada official "sees rampant fraud in the 2,000 to 3,000 registrations ACORN turns in every week.".[45]
The ACORN office in Nevada office was raided by law enforcement officials who were seeking additional information on accusations that the group had hired 59 felons and had submitted 30 apparently fraudulent registration cards. [46]
On October 6, a criminal investigator with the Nevada Secretary of State filed a search-warrant affidavit stating that ACORN hired 59 state prison inmates to collect voter-registration forms. These include:
Jason Anderson, currently imprisoned for burglary and firearms violations at the state's Casa Grande halfway house in Las Vegas. Anderson was a team leader for ACORN, and told investigators that some of his co-workers "hired by ACORN were 'lazy crack-heads' who were not interested in working and just wanted the money."
Darmela Jone who said she "submitted approximately 40 Voter Registration Applications while employed at ACORN and only 10 were real applications."
An ACORN canvasser, according to the complaint, "was caught completing forms using names and addresses copied from the telephone book."
A Nevada woman, Roberta Casteel, who had not registered to vote, learned that nevertheless a voter-registration application was submitted to the state by ACORN which included her name, driver's license number and Social Security number.[47]
See Nevada vote fraud news.
New Mexico
On October 17, the Republican Party in New Mexico announced it had found 28 fraudulent voters in a Democratic primary earlier in 2008. The GOP said it looked at the data from 92 newly registered voters in the district, finding 28 that had "missing or inaccurate Social Security numbers or birth dates. In some cases, more than one voter was registered using the same Social Security number. In others, people who the Republicans said had no Social Security number on public record were registered." Before the primary, ACORN was one of the organizations registering voters in the area. State Rep. Justine Fox (R-Albuquerque) said, "This is a bombshell. We now have undeniable proof that a significant number of fraudulent voters were cast in Democrat primary races for the New Mexico state legislature as a result of ACORN’s voter registration fraud."[48][48][49] The vote took place in House District 13, where no Republican ran for the seat.
On September 17, the Bernalillo County clerk notified prosecutors that about 1,100 possibly fraudulent voter registration cards have been turned in to her office. The cards in question involve issues such as:
The same name as a voter who’s already registered, but carry a different birth date or Social Security number.
Listing a social security number for a different person than the person whose card it is supposed to be.
Addresses that don’t exist.[50]
In August, the Albuquerque Journal reported that Acorn had turned in a forged card for Rebecca Sitterly, a former state District Court judge from Albuquerque who has been voting in the same place for nearly two decades.
North Carolina
In Durham, North Carolina, the State Board of Elections officials in early October investigated 100 voter registration forms submitted by a local branch of Acorn when "All of a sudden, I started seeing the same names over and over again", according to Mike Ashe, county elections director. He said some forms had similar names but different addresses or dates of birth.[51],[52]
The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections referred more 14 cases of potential voter registration fraud to the county prosecutor today as part of an investigation of suspicious registration cards submitted by ACORN.[53]
Freddie Johnson of Cleveland, Ohio, testified before the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections that Acorn workers asked him to sign 73 voter registration forms. Johnson also told an Ohio newspaper that he was given cash and cigarettes by ACORN activists he described as "aggressive". John additionally testified that the Acorn workers told him they were paid by the signature, and that he was helping them earn additional pay by continuing to sign his name for them.[54],[55]
On October 14, The Buckeye Institute filed a state RICO action against the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) on behalf of two Warren County, Ohio voters. The action filed in Warren County Court of Common Pleas alleges ACORN has engaged in a pattern of corrupt activity that amounts to organized crime. The lawsuit seeks ACORN’s dissolution as a legal entity, the revocation of any licenses in Ohio, and an injunction against fraudulent voter registration and other illegal activities.[56]
See Ohio vote fraud news.
Dauphin County: Luis Torres-Serrano is accused of submitting over hundred fraudulent voter registration forms he collected on behalf of ACORN. Authorities are offering a $2,000 award for information on the whereabouts of Torres-Serrano. He is charged with 19 counts of perjury, making false statements and identity theft. County law enforcement officials were alerted to the possible criminal actions by Dauphin County elections head Steven G. Chiavetta; he became aware of the problem when people contacted his office to ask why they had received a new voter registration form when they had never filled out a card.[57]
Delaware County: A man working for ACORN was arrested on October 21 for submitting 18 false voter registration forms.[58] Also see Election Journal.
Philadelphia: Official here are seeking an investigation into ACORN’s voter registration program because they "were fed up with false applications gumming up the works" and "specifically accused" ACORN of turning in bad paperwork. ACORN along with other organizations submitted over 250,000 registration forms in Philadelphia in 2008. Many were rejected because they were duplicates, but another 5,000 are questionable because of non-existent addresses. Others are being rejected due to incorrect birthdays, social security numbers, or because those registered are children. Some individuals close to the organization say that ACORN workers are judged by unspoken quotas, leading them to make up registration cards, a charge the organization is denying.[59]
Pittsburgh: A Pittsburgh-area district attorney is probing ACORN voter registrations in the wake of complaints about possible forgery and irregularities in registration forms submitted by the group. an organization already under investigation in several states. [59]
West Reading: An ACORN worker was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
York: An ACORN worker in York was arrested for submitting 100 fraudulent registrations.[60]
Statewide: ACORN turned in 78,376 voter applications from April 28, 2008 through October 6, 2008. As of October 24, 6,962 had been rejected by election officials for reasons other than duplication. An additional 80,000 voter applications were duplicates, including those turned in by Acorn and other groups.[61]
Lawsuit: The Republican Party of Pennsylvania announced on October 17 that they were filing a lawsuit against Pedro Cortes and ACORN and its subsidiaries. The press conference to announce the lawsuit included former Supreme Court Justice and PAGOP Fair Elections Task Force Chair Sandra Newman. The basis for the lawsuit was a claim of voter dilution.[62] Craig Williams, who is a candidate in the 7th Congressional district and a former Federal prosecutor, is a co-plaintiff. Williams said, "Voter fraud is a crime against democracy and violates a critical tenet of our system of government: one person, one vote."[62] (See PAGOP Announces Lawsuit against ACORN/PA Secretary of Commonwealth).
See also: Pennsylvania vote fraud
ACORN turned in 30,000 registration cards ACORN in Harris County, Texas. Tax assesssor Paul Bettencourt reported that 33% are invalid and noted some specifics:
A church was listed as the voter registration address for 150 people.
About 250 cards listed the address of a homeless outreach center as their home address.[63]
Seven felons were hired by ACORN to register voters in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Previous convictions were for robbery and cocaine possession. The seven had been designated as special registration deputies, allowing them to solicit and keep voter registration applications before turning them in to local election officials. One special registration deputy has a pending felony charge for heroin possession and another is facing a misdemeanor prostitution charge. A third was convicted of misdemeanor prostitution. The law says anyone who can vote can be a special registration deputy, and felons can vote as long as they are no longer on probation or parole. But the attorney for the Government Accountability Board, which runs elections, issued an April 3 memo saying the board’s staff believed convicted felons couldn’t serve in the role.[64]
A criminal complaint accuses 29-year-old Frank Walton of Oak Creek with submitting 54 false voter registrations in June. Some of the registrations listed vacant buildings as addresses, others had false driver's license numbers and still others had false Social Security numbers. Others charged with vote fraud include Adam Mucklin for illegally registering to vote , and charges against Endalyn Adams, who worked for ACORN, for submitting dozens of fake voter registrations.[65]
ACORN employee Adams is charged with submitting 45 forms, about twenty-seven or 60% of which contained information alleged to be false, including 19 voter forms listed persons that do not appear to exist, 19 voter registration forms were determined by police investigators to be nonexistent, 22 of the driver license numbers were fraudulent.[66]
See Wisconsin vote fraud news.
A voter-registration worker was indicted in Norfolk, Virginia, on October 16 for election fraud. The woman worked for the Community Voters Project, which is an ACORN affiliate. She was charged with three counts of felony election fraud for giving voter-registration applications containing false information to the Norfolk voter registrar’s office.[67]
Three members of the same group had previously been charged (in July 2008) with voter fraud after the registrar in Norfolk found irregularities with hundreds of applications submitted by eight to ten canvassers. The registrar has referred some of that paperwork to law enforcement. The problems in Hampton and Norfolk are said by a local newspaper to have been the result of a quota system used by the Community Voters Project. [67]
In Hampton, Virginia, election officials said on October 16 that "dubious applications are nothing new, but that this year the numbers are "off the charts." The phony applications are brazen, according to a local newspaper, involving behaviors such as listing fake names, addresses and phone numbers.[

Z said...

Oh, Pops...don't you KNOW that's irrelevant? ACORN only helped in VOTER REGISTRATION fraud not VOTER FRAUD! (snark!)

And, you know, I get no joy out of correcting Ducky. I just think the whole world would be better off if we at least were open to the truth...

Papa Frank said...

It's funny how Ducky disappears when the facts come out. That seems to happen a whole lot.

Average American said...

It's time for ACORN to go. This bullcrap has gone on for toooooo long already.

Anonymous said...

State of S.C. got rid of them, challenged their so called tax exempt status and they disappered.
Other states need to do the same.
ANd yes, I think that is how Obama was able to win in N.C . and some other states, like Ohio.


Ducky's here said...

Just for the record in case you care about the facts of the bailout bill.

President Obama's plan provides four MILLION dollars for many community organizations and only for those that apply for it. So far, ACORN has NOT applied.

Pitch till you win.