Friday, April 26, 2013

Ted Kennedy; beginning of the immigration nightmare in America?

How Ted Kennedy Helped Bring Terrorism to America - Political

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-lost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

These are the famous last five lines of the sonnet The New Colossus written by Emma Lazarus (1849–1887) in 1883 that appear on the Statue of Liberty.

Ms. Lazarus, the daughter of a privileged, Jewish family in New York City, was actually referring to the plight of poor, European Jewry, brutalized throughout Europe, in that sonnet. The Statue of Liberty, at the foot of which the sonnet found a home in 1903, was a gift from France whose sole aim was to commemorate the 100th anniversary of America’s independence from England.

Contrary to the Left’s hijacking of intentions, these were the true meanings behind the statue and sonnet. The significance of Lady Liberty and the sonnet have been deliberately distorted ever since by the Left.

The existence America promised was the shared aspiration of the “wretched” of every nationality that flocked here. They knew that by coming to our teeming shore, with work, they could obtain the liberty, security and standing that could never be realized in the lands of their birth.

Their children were not cemented to the same existence they’d shared with their fathers and their fathers’ fathers. They could rise from the lowest to heights unimagined in a single generation. American immigration laws were enforced. Immigration was controlled, as is the responsibility of any sovereign nation to its inhabitants. The shared aim of immigrants, regardless of their country of origin, was that they wanted to be Americans. 

Citizenship was earned. The oath of loyalty to the émigré’s new, chosen homeland was administered in English
It would never have occurred to anyone to have it otherwise; no ethnic group was ever dissuaded from maintaining their heritage. But there was never any question that they were, first and foremost, American.

Ted Kennedy changed all of that. In 1965 Kennedy revamped the entire immigration system. He eliminated firm immigration caps and introduced chain migration into America from every overpopulated country in the world, smashing annual immigration numbers.

In the 1970s Kennedy massively expanded refugee programs, introducing enormous loopholes and encouraging a national resettlement trade that became a major lobby for more and more immigration.
Kennedy was far from finished. In 1986 he got Republicans to agree to blanket amnesty; the amnesty to end all amnesties. This is the amnesty the Left always lays at Ronald Reagan’s feet (Z: and he still gets blamed for it by libs even here at geeeZ). The law was deliberately written in a way that was guaranteed not to work. Just a few years later, Kennedy would use the inability to enforce the 1986 rules as an excuse for issuing more green cards and more amnesties. So much for Democrat promises.
Kennedy’s 1990 Immigration Act boosted immigration by another 35%. George H.W. Bush was his accomplice. Today’s Republicans seem eager to compound that disgrace. The 1990 Immigration Act also randomly gifted 50,000 green cards a year to people from countries selected because they had few ties and cultural connection with America. Worse still, highly skilled, European, English-speaking immigration applicants were denied, almost to a man.

The make-up of America’s immigrant population had been changed. Kennedy’s assaults on America’s structure were eulogized by Doris Meissner, Former Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner: “Senator Kennedy helped change the character of the immigration system, and indeed the country, bringing the United States a step closer to its founding ideals of fairness and opportunity for all.”
For all? Ms. Meissner conveniently avoided the fact that Emma Lazarus’ sonnet doesn’t state: “Give me your tired, your poor, the wretched refuse…” exclusively.   (End of PoliticalOutcast article)

Z:  Do you remember when an immigrant needed an American here to show that he could be provided for if he didn't make it?  So's to prevent the new immigrant from going on our dole?  I sure do.  My family did plenty of guaranteeing.   I'm first generation on one side and second on the other, so there IS nobody more fond of immigration than I am.   My mother's a naturalized citizen who had to go out of the country and come back in before her papers were finalized.  Remember when that happened?  She was pregnant with my sister, I believe, and was scared to death they wouldn't allow her back in from Canada!  But they did.   She's the most America-loving person I know, I think.   
What do you think of the article?   Is Kennedy largely to blame for the nightmare we have now?  What was wrong with caps? 
And what about THIS, also from PoliticalOutcast (which I'd never heard of until someone sent me the post above) Clinton to be blamed, too?   From reading that post, I think so.

Yup, the Statue had a good poem attached...........unlike the statue with the caption I saw years ago "...I said 'huddled masses'...not  'befuddled ASSES'"  :-)  But, we've sure got them, haven't we.



A Little Birdie Told Me said...

Ted Kennedy, YUK, don't get me started....Please he was a scumbag!

The Screaming Eagle said...

Ted Kennedy and Joe Kennedy. TWO of the biggest sleaze balls, from a State full of sleaze balls!
Frankly, I'm so sick of these damn people and their hypocrisy and their BULL$H!T!

Liberals care so much about the people they get the one free rape and one free kill a young women rule...but if their last name is Kennedy than they get a couple kills and several rapes.

The Uncommon Experiences of an Ordinary Man said...

The fact is, that this drunkard asshole was reelected so many times is proof of how freaken retarded some people in this country are.
The man (if you want to call him a "man")I'd prefer to call him a creep was a useless sack of crap.

Always On Watch said...

Duck is going to have a meltdown when he sees all this negativity about the Admiral of Chappaquiddick. Duck venerates the admiral.

Z said...

AOW, I'm hoping the conversation address the immigration situation and just how much Kennedy WAS responsible. And Clinton, as the final link suggests.

JonBerg said...


Whatever it may, otherwise, deserve I'll give it an 'A' for ARROGANCE! This is quite evident in the ramblings of its Cyber Ambassador who frequently appears on this site and throughout the Blogesphere. You/We know who you are!

Shaw Kenawe said...

1986 Immigration Act: Flawed law

The Immigration Reform and Control Act was, in broad terms, no different than the approach being tried today. It was cast as a "three-legged stool" that had improved border security and penalties for hiring illegal immigrants; a temporary agricultural worker program; and legalization of immigrants who arrived in the United States before 1982.

It has become popular for Republican commentators to say Reagan was fooled by Democrats to grant amnesty in exchange for a false promise of tougher border control. But the legislation was pushed by members of both parties and its failure bears bipartisan fingerprints.

"It's revisionist history," said Demetrios Papademetriou, president of the nonpartisan Migration Policy Institute. "The narrative is produced by people who have opposed reform."

The GOP-leaning Hispanic Leadership Network circulated a list of talking points to Republicans last week urging a different tone. Do use the term "undocumented immigrant," don't use "illegals" or "aliens," the group instructed. "Don't use phrases like 'send them all back,' 'electric fence,' 'build a wall along the entire border.' It concluded, "Don't use President Reagan's immigration reform as an example applicable today."

The difference between Republican views in the 1980s and today is striking.

During a 1980 debate with George H.W. Bush, Reagan talked about open borders.

"Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don't we work out some recognition of our mutual problems? Make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit — and then while they're working and earning here, they pay taxes here. And when they want to go back, they can go back. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems."

In his farewell address Reagan talked about a "shining city on a hill" — now a mantra of modern Republicanism. "And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here," Reagan said.

Did Ted Kennedy force Reagan to utter those words?


Darth Bacon said...

Just as expected, here comes Shaw whith he anti Reagan Bull Shit.
News flash!
This subject is about "The Swimmer" The Murderer Ted Kennedy! But so typical of the lame assed Linerals, they chose to change the subject.... LOL, they are SO pathetic .

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Facts are stubborn things." --John Adams

And they apparently anger those who wish to ignore them.

Darth Bacon said...

I wonder if Ted Kennedy had any Tattoos? That may be a subject the Libs would rather discuss.

Anonymous said...

Teddy had plenty of help along the way.

Darth Bacon said...

Ah, we are now quoting John Adams!
I'd rather quote Rush Limbaugh who said "I hope that Obama's policies FAIL"
That's much more current.

Darth Bacon said...

Teddy was a fat, drunken, murdering coward from a State that's well known as a cowardly State.

Sam Huntington said...

I would imagine that all laws are flawed, if for no other reason than they are put together by human beings, who are themselves flawed. Lately, however, we seem to have had an explosion of laws passed in the dead of the night by politicians who have not even read the law before voting on it. This means that they aren’t voting according to the merits of the law, but along partisan lines.

This is no way to run an airline.

Other bad ideas include eliminating immigration caps, refugee loopholes, amnesty programs, and making it easier to gain political asylum in the USA—a feature of the newest proposal. I shake my head in wonderment, especially following the attack upon Boston innocents.

I am not surprised that some conservatives are now claiming that Reagan was fooled into signing the 1985 IRCA, but I seriously doubt if Reagan was fooled by much —no more than Bush the Elder was fooled into increasing taxes after his famous “read my lips” campaign promises, or that Obama was fooling into hating white people.

These questions remain: is this country in desperate need of immigration reform? Can we rely on Congressional Gangs to do the job that needs to be done without close supervision “by the people”? Can Beamish and Shaw Kenawe find true happiness together?

Dave Miller said...

Z, was Ted Kennedy the author of the 1965 Immigration Act that passed with overwhelming bi-partisan support?

Dave Miller said...

Wasn't the 1986 Immigration Bill sponsored by Senators Simpson (R) and Bowles (D) and supported by a wide bi-partisan margin in the GOP House and Senate?

Shaw Kenawe said...

Darth Bacon: "Teddy was a fat, drunken, murdering coward from a State that's well known as a cowardly State."

Amazing how easily a statement of fact sends people who can't handle the truth into a frothing rage.

Dave Miller said...

Ted Kennedy was the author of the 1990 Act which was signed by President Bush and passed with overwhelming bi-partisan support.

Bush called it the most comphrensive reform of our immigration in over 60 years adding The legislation meets several objectives of this Administration's domestic policy agenda -- cultivation of a more competitive economy, support for the family as the essential unit of society, and swift and effective punishment for drug-related and other violent crime.

The above article is an opinion peice at odds with facts.

Ducky's here said...

Duck is going to have a meltdown when he sees all this negativity about the Admiral of Chappaquiddick. Duck venerates the admiral.

Nah, in a post that virtually states that the base of the Statue of Liberty should be turned back into a Zionist screed there's more to just shake your head at.

That bastard Kennedy letting the wrong kind of people into America.

The bigotry of today's post is barely concealed.

Darth Bacon said...

Ah, pShaw called in her LapDOG to spread his Anti Bush and Anti Reagan crap AGIIN

JonBerg said...

"Teddy was a fat, drunken, murdering coward.........."

A "statement of fact", indeed!

Scotty said...

I'm always amused how those that lean left like to think that because an "R" signed on to something justifies more bad law. Thinking that somehow we that lean right are going to say "oh, in that case I guess it's OK!"

Missing the point that just because a Bush or Reagan signed something means that we in the trenches went a long with it all.

Unlike, it seems, the liberals that defend their leadership to the bitter end, we that lean right stand and call our leadership out when we believe they are wrong.

So, please stop trotting out the old "well Ronald Reagan/George Bush did it's really getting nauseating.

Z said...

Shaw, the 'shining city' was not meant to be a 'dirty doormat for those coming to take from us' was meant for those who want to partake, to truly become Americans.

No Republican is against all immigration, so please stop the inferences. The leftwing is getting boring with that, frankly.
Bob Beckel's finally waking up, however; that was refreshing.

and yes, please do not ignore the facts.

Scotty...the truth about Reagan is clear; of course he welcomed immigrants, but those who are LEGAL...

Ducky, "bigotry?"
And your comment is not bigoted? :-)
Please highlight what parts of PoliticalOutcast's piece is bigoted.
Good luck.
Oh, unless you think it's 'bigotry' to only allow legal immigration into America.

Darth Bacon said...

Amazing how these libs drag out their own BS and call them facts

Darth Bacon said...

Without that old mantra, their lost!

Darth Bacon said...

Dah, tell us that story again George!

Shaw Kenawe said...

From the libertarian Cato Institute:

"Like President George W. Bush ...Reagan had the good sense and compassion to see illegal immigrants not as criminals but as human beings striving to build better lives through honest work. In a radio address in 1977, he noted that apples were rotting on trees in New England because no Americans were willing to pick them. “It makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won’t do?” Reagan asked. “One thing is certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters.”

Compare Reagan’s hopeful, expansive, and inclusive view of America with the dour, crabbed, and exclusive view that characterizes certain conservatives who would claim his mantle. Their view of the world could not be more alien to the spirit of Ronald Reagan."

BTW, Scotty, when Bush and Reagan signed something into law, they had the backing of Republican representatives who in turn represented you and your fellow Republicans. So they absolutely DID have a majority backing of conservatives.

Just because you choose to run away from the laws that were passed by GOP presidents does not mean they were not supported by a majority of the GOP. They were.

Ducky's here said...

Come on darth, be nice.

Shaw and I are still stunned from learning we share responsibility for the bombing.
We only visited the z in hopes of being informed of the proper act of contrition and get nothing but abuse.

Darth Bacon said...
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Darth Bacon said...

It really was nice of you both to visit. Us. It's not often that we get to see a Freak Show.

Dave Miller said...

Scotty, I was not commenting at all on whether or not the bills in question were good, or bad law.

I was simply stating wondering why Z, and the author are upset at Ted Kennedy for two bills he did not sponsor, and 1 bill he did sponsor, but was also supported by a majority of the opposition party.

How can some logically single out one person from among the hundreds of people that signed these bills and call him, or her the cause of these bills becoming law?

These were bi-partisan laws that did not just make it over the filibuster threshold. They were worked on, supported by, and promoted by both parties.

Z said...

Gad, now the pickers situation is being mischaracterized.
does anybody understand LEGAL here?

Does anybody believe anybody's against legal immigration?

Has anyone said all immigrants shouldn't be here?
Has anybody read the post to know I'm first and second generation of immigrants who came legally, loved this country, had no money or education, and became leaders in their communities with no affirmative action or welfare?
WHY do you leftwingers have so little confidence in immigrants today that we have to teach in Spanish? My grandfather learned English at the age of 9 in six months in 'bilingual education' for him, believe me.
His father learned it very quickly, too.

I'm thinking this is what Reagan was after, no matter how one wants to twist it.

Dave, I publish these things for good conversation, not insults and smug inference and mischaracterization.

If the author is lying about Ted Kennedy, please link it for us; we're here to learn not to pile it on either side.

Whether both sides worked on them or not does not make them good bills or right for this country.

Man, it's just astonishing how little the left can do wrong in the eyes of its followers! Almost humorous if it wasn't hurting us all so badly by now that we have a media covering for them and their choice of president (i.e. gun control, climate control, Benghazi, some of the ways this Boston tragedy's being handled, Van Jones, Gad..I could go on here for days).

Oh, and yes,Shaw, a great deal of our unemployed are now victims of the illegal invasion...thanks for the reminder. How Reagan would be saddened. Who knew it could get this bad because we weakened our laws?

Reagan was right in his time; I wonder what he would say today.
And thanks for showing your support for Reagan..I'd not have thought you had a bit of respect for someone as patriotic or openly Christian.

Z said...

What all readers of geeeeZ might want to do is digest the information before commenting, realize that I publish things which I don't always agree with but mostly do, and that I want conversation here, not insults, not name-calling, not mischaracterizations in order to make points.

I have liberals who regularly come here, start horrible comments and then whine that people were calling them names. Don't bother. That does not give a pass to the reactions of conservatives who get so riled up at the nasty comments left here.

I'm sick and tired of what goes on and am grateful it's not often this happens.

I asked for conversation about the points made in the article and would very much appreciate links showing where the author is incorrect....

Please stay at least in the year 2000s to make points; 30 years ago, nobody knew we'd have a mess of immigration like we do today.

This promotes more equal, sensible and intelligent information gathering and discussion.

I love most of my readers and hope that we can get something worthwhile going here and be respectful and provide links when disagreeing; prove you're wrong or right...the left can't always win just because the media's helping it along..that doesn't work here

Thank you

Shaw Kenawe said...

Z, I posted Reagan's words; that doesn't mean I support him, anymore than posting on Ted Kennedy means you support him.

One could take away from your post, if one was doing what you tried to do with my comments, that you are incensed that Political Outcast would do such a hatchet job on the late senator. So I thank you for showing us how skewed Political Outcast is in that article.

Z: "I'd not have thought you had a bit of respect for someone as patriotic or openly Christian."

Well I actually have respect for our patriotic and Christian President Obama, so why the surprise?

Anonymous said...


"That bastard Kennedy letting the wrong kind of people into America."

Including the French, Russians, Brazilians, Panamanians, Irish, Scots,Spaniards, Fins and Danes too....yea...what's that make me now Duck?

If I think Mexicans suck and bring nothing to the table...isn't bigotry.


Dave Miller said...

The Hart-Celler Act of 1965...

The Simpson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, which I mischaracterized as Simpson-Bowles...

And of course, the 1990 Immigration Act, which was in fact sponsored by Ted Kennedy...

Z, if I was smug in my questions, that was not my intent. Your article stated some things as fact, and clearly, it seems as if some of your readers understood the views of the author as fact, even though all three of the major immigration acts of our lifetimes were passed by overwhelmingly bi-partisan majorities and signed into law by presidents of both parties.

Now we can argue all day over whether or not they were/are good laws. That's fair game.

But I do not believe the facts of whose name is on the bills, the majority approvals by multiple congresses and presidential signatures from both political parties in this country can be disputed.

These bills were not foisted on the American people by Ted Kennedy as the author suggests. For better of worse, they were foisted on the American people by strong bi-partisan majorities over many years.

Z said...

Good luck, Shaw. I won't fight with you... you have a superiority in snideness I don't even want to exhibit myself.

Again no links. QED

Imp...we're lost in such PC that we'll never get out. You can't criticize anybody for anything anymore, celebs become drug addicts and get more kudos for rehab than good people who do great things.
This is the new America.
I don't think we can find the better one again, sadly.

Elmer's Brother, if you're around, I'll be unable to comment much today; Everything Liberalmann says is automatically deleted, please...Please delete anything else at will and supervise IF YOU HAVE THE TIME and NEED.

Thanks so

Shaw Kenawe said...

Dave, you're smug and I'm snide.

Z sees these qualities only in those she does not agree with, but is blind to them in herself and those she agrees with.

Just read the Darth Bacon's comments, which go unremarked on, since apparently Z sees merit in his taunts and insults.

Who knew?

Z, there is no cynicism or sarcasm attached to my comments. That you read them as such is something I have no control over.

Z said...

you win, Shaw. enjoy.
I'm too busy and way too tired of nastiness to continue.

I hope you made yourself a better day for it.

FreeThinke said...

Little known but important factors that resulted in the 1965 Immigration Reform Bill -- i.e. it wasn’t ALL Ted Kennedy’s doing by a long shot:

American immigration policy ... wasn’t chosen by the vast majority of the American people ... it was chosen by the organized Jewish community and put into action as a result of Jewish political pressure and financial wherewithal. ...

[T]he successful immigration restriction of 1924 was seen by historians as one of the reforms of the Progressive Era’s campaign against the excesses of capitalism, since immigration lowered wages.
... [H]owever, Jews never saw it that way. [they believed] the 1924 law was enacted to achieve an ethnic staus quo [deliberately] unfair to Jews.

[Jewish immigrants were correctly seen by restrictionists as disproportionately involved in political radicalism, and it was generally a period of ethnic defense of White America.]

... Jews have never ceased seeing the 1924 law as exclusion of Jews. ... [To them] it was just another example of irrational anti-Semitism. ...

Since Jews constitute half of the most influential media figures, and since the other half are rigorously vetted to exclude anyone who opposes what ... the Jewish consensus on immigration, there really wasn’t much real debate in the above-ground media.

Theodore White, then the most influential journalist in America and, himself a Jew, refused to publish his views on immigration. “My New York friends would never forgive me. No, you guys are right [on immigration], but I can’t go public on this.” ...

White’s agitated response demonstrated the intensely emotional Jewish version of the taboo against immigration skepticism. White’s whole heritage, and his standing with all his Jewish friends, would be endangered, he felt. if he publicized his very real concerns about the [proposed imigration reforms.] …

... The driving force at the core of the Immigration Reform Movement were Jewish organizations long active in opposing racial and ethnic quotas. These included the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith, and the American Federation of Jews from Eastern Europe.

... Following the shock of the Holocaust, Jewish leaders had been especially active in Washington in furthering immigration reform. ... [T]he most visible evidence of the immigration reform drive was played by Jewish legislative leaders, such as Representative Emanuel Celler and Senator Jacob Javits of New York. Less visible, but equally important, were the efforts of key advisers on presidential and agency staffs ... such as Julius Edelson and Harry Rosenfield in the Truman administration, Maxwell Rabb in the Eisenhower White House, and presidential aide Myer Feldman, assistant secretary of state Abba Schwartz, and deputy attorney general Norbert Schlei in the Kennedy ... administration.

FreeThinke said...

For better of worse, the [The Immigration Reforms] were foisted on the American people by strong bi-partisan majorities over many years.

No, Dave. They were foisted in the unwilling-but-unaware majority by an extremely powerful, highly vocal minority -- not without the full cooperation of ted Kennedy and many other liberals in congress, of course.

The absolute, deliberate INTENTION of the 1965 Immigration Bill was to ensure the END of a WHITE CHRISTIAN MAJORITY in the USA.

Anyone who thinks otherwise has to be living in La La Land. The facts totally support that contention.

Rita said...

Ah man. I hope this isn't the start of things to come. (Not referring to the original post).

FreeThinke said...

Hey, Darth!

Teddy my have been a fat, drunken, womanizing, murderously self-indulgent lout. HE WAS! There's NO DOUBT about it.

BUT, he was also one of the most powerful members of the senate for many many years -- God only know how or why! -- and like it or not -- whatever Teddy wanted in the way of legislation, history proves Teddy tended to GET.

The information I discovered and posted above, however, proves quite conclusively that Teddy did fashion the fateful - some would say FATAL -- Immigration reform policy of 1965 by himself.

It really was largely the result of decades of relentless Jewish lobbying. We're not supposed to know that, of course, and if we do, we're not supposed to say it out loud, but Jesus, Himself, says in the Bible "Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set you FREE."

The Truth should never be bowdlerized just because it happens to be politically incorrect, and some are afraid to acknowledge it.

And quit antagonizing Ms Shaw. She has as much right to her opinion as anyone else.

At my place I only censor DISHONEST fake opinions obviously posted just to try to get someone's goat.

Very frankly, I think we ALL need to learn how to deal with disagreement without freaking out, and going ballistic.


FreeThinke said...

What WERE you referring to, Rita?

Scotty said...

BTW, Scotty, when Bush and Reagan signed something into law, they had the backing of Republican representatives who in turn represented you and your fellow Republicans

Keep pitchin'.....I'm NOT a Republican!

Darth Bacon said...

The truth?
He was STILL a drunken
, murdering Fat Skunk!

Darth Bacon said...

After reading the Filth on your blog you have the Gaul to say thAt you have "respec"! What a laugh that is!
The only one you respect is a Socialist Pig

Mustang said...

Dr. Sowell asks an interesting question today. “Whose interests are immigration laws supposed to serve, and whose interests do current immigration reform proposals actually serve?

Mustang said...

I’m sure Z readers will also appreciate this information from the Daily Caller: How the USDA shows Mexicans how to get their kids on food stamps without showing any documentation.

We wonder if this is a proper role for a government agency charged with upholding the law ....

Anonymous said...


404's on those links.

Mustang said...

Daily Caller

Mustang said...

Dr. Sowell

Sorry about the broken links.

Anonymous said...


Thanks and back's one to frost the PC / race mongers.

beamish said...

Shaw and I are still stunned from learning we share responsibility for the bombing.

False. The urinary incontinent Shaw is merely criticized for seeing herself as a "victim" of a bombing she saw on TV.

You, Ducky, are merely pressed to begin campaigning for a mosque to be built at the Boston Marathon finish line before your fellow imbeciles on the left start calling you a bigot.

Law and Order Teacher said...

I'm not going to address some of these people who are trying to twist Reagan's words to suit their purpose. He spoke in broad themes that escape those who don't get that type of speech. Reagan was speaking of a generation in America that valued hard work, assimilation, and love of country.

There's nothing specific in those quotes about immigration law. There are broad themes that he saw as the greatness of America. Immigration has been a source of elevating American culture but it was precipitated by those who came to America and became part of it.

They became Americans to the marrow of their bones. They came here for opportunity not exploitation. I'm sorry you don't get that.

But thanks for acknowledging Reagan's greatness.

Mustang said...

Santa Monica Explosive Device: Area Evacuated After Device Found At Beach

The Uncommon Experiences of an Ordinary Man said...

To reward illegal immigrants with the very thing they were trying to achieve when they broke the law is unconscionable: It encourages law breaking in general, and yet more illegal immigration in particular. Criminals must never be granted that which they were seeking when they broke the law--in this case, any form of legal residency in the United States.

My motto has always been,if you love the United States of America,watch what Ted Kennedy supports and take the OPPOSITE side,and you’ll be standing up for what’s good for our country !!!

Kid said...

I wouldn't say kennedy, I'd say the entire democrat communist party. It's the democrat agenda

Anonymous said...


Ultimate Hispandering:

You know what they say about interesting times and what could be more interesting than watching the slow motion demise of one of the greatest cultures that ever existed, demographically overwhelmed by barbarian hordes who can’t figure out how to stop having babies they can’t feed or organize themselves.

Poor, poor Hispanics – they just can’t win, no matter what they do. Here, get into the phone booth, there’s always room for a few million more.

There’ll just be millions more behind you having more babies since exporting people isn’t exactly what one would call a ‘solution’ but get in anyway.

We can all go down together and then it won’t seem so unfair. Why should Latin Americans have to watch fat Americans on TV living the high life due to their own individualism and sense of personal responsibility when they can ride box cars to ‘free/stupid/kind people land’ and be on TV too and make America a place just like back home and then move on to the next ‘free/stupid/kind people land’ to transform that into an intellectual shanty town?

The one great innovation that has emerged from Latin America that Americans still find so startling they can’t believe it’s even real, is the idea that national Constitution’s are not only completely irrelevant, they are in fact suicide pacts subordinant to self-interest, meant to transport us back to the magical days before the Enlightenment which is a fad that never really caught on South of the border.

The sheer amount of blithe arrogance it takes to sneak into another country and then wave your own flags in its streets because you have figured out how to simultaneously ignore and manipulate the U.S. Constitution is staggering. Gee I wish I could pay it forward down South somehow.

Voting? What the hell is that – is that kinda like issues and talking and stuff? If it’ll get me an extra jar of peanut butter then just tell me which button to press for the peanut butter candidate otherwise don’t bother me about it cuz I’ll just go for the guy with the name like mine because there’s not so much talking and thinking involved and it gives me a headache and I wish it would all just go away cuz migraines make me nauseous.

Do I despise Ilegals...especially the ones from failed dictatorships that are too cowardly to stay home and fix their shitty countries? You bet I do...and once again the Gang of 8 have made it perfectly clear...that our laws..our will...our borders are meaningless and we...WE have to assimilate to their "cultural" differences and remake our selves in their image.

Anonymous said...


There will be a time soon..when 100,000,000 or more...will take to the streets...regardless, and in spite of the bastard man child's wish to enslave us, surround us, smother us with the rest of the worlds dung, refuse, flotsam, illiterate and utterly useless to the Republic and our future survival.

Z said...

Mustang, fantastic question by Sowell and one all sides of the issue should be serious enough and courageous enough to consider.

Law and're the best.

ALL: I think the article's facts are clear.

Anonymous said...


And???? What I said is meaningless?

This was for the Bostonian "heros" and cowards we now are. Watching so called "Americans" from the one time "Cradle of Liberty" give up their 4th Amendment rights...Not ONE stood in the doorway of their homes and told the Boston Gestapo to piss off...and deny them entry into their homes..NOT ONE had the guts to say..."NO WAY" can't come in without a warrant.

Sheep...cowards and totally undeserving of living in this Republic while having their Constitutional rights abrogated by fascism ( not seen since WW2 , SS Nazi's ) and cops with an illegal agenda.

I hope that the 10,000 Saudi's in and around Boston take note of this and see that it's easy to bring a city to it's knees. All the cops have to do cry...TERRORISTS..!!! Hide, cower and we'll protect you.


JonBerg said...

Just in case this was missed on the previous Post:

Impertinent (I'd say Essential) said:


Keep up the good work, my friend!

Z said...

Imp, I worked 15 hours today and most of it was an event...doing everything for it. I have to admit I didn't read your comment because of its length. I'm so sorry.

what's really sad is that we're to the point that we mistrust the gov't so badly we wouldn't allow them in to search for people who could kill THOUSANDS of innocent people if they felt like it.
We should want to have people keep us safe but things have become so bad as far as civil liberties that we're wary.

It's hard to consider what to do.........even the lockdown was met with chagrin; I know that. Kid didn't like it, many people didn't like it. But it could keep people safe to have them stay inside.
Still...if we still trusted...........maybe we wouldn't be quite so outraged?

Kid said...

IMP Ultimate Hispandering:

Perfection. Nothing else to say.

Anonymous said...


My thought is, maybe we should consider admitting immigrants who can succeed in America, rather than deadbeats.

But we're not allowed to "discriminate" in favor of immigrants who would be good for America. Instead of helping America, our immigration policies are designed to help other countries solve their internal problems by shipping their losers to us.

The problem isn't just illegal immigration. I would rather have doctors and engineers sneaking into the country than legally arriving ditch-diggers.

Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World.

They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can't make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans."

Rita said...

I'm referring to the caliber of the commenters suddenly making their way here and the screeching they bring with them.