Thursday, April 25, 2013

The Post Office....WHAT?

I just heard that the US Post Office paid approximately forty MILLION dollars in six years to support the US cycling team.  Lance Armstrong personally got seventeen MILLION dollars.  

Here's my question:  Why does the US Post Office need FORTY MILLION dollars of advertising? Who else processes and delivers the mail?

The US Government is SUING LANCE ARMSTRONG NOW.  We should be suing the US Government.   That's $40 million of OUR MONEY.

WHY?

z

91 comments:

Always On Watch said...

The USPS has long been notorious for wasting funds.

FreeThinke said...
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Impertinent said...

When they go after all the eggplants, illegals, welfare, medicare, EBT cheats...Corrupt Congressman and their special earmarks, Wall Street, AIG, John Corzine, Chase, Lehman, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, Fake / dead black "farmers" and the "Greens" wasted billions....

Recover those gazillions first...then bug Lance. Chumps.

BTW...FreeThink....great post!!

Constitutional Insurgent said...

I don't give a rip about cycling...but I care a lot about our taxpayer dollars propping up a defunct sinkhole of an agency, who refuses to adapt to the current technology paradigm.

Funding whiny advertising and the cycling team is merely sour icing on this stale cake.

Ducky's here said...

@FT --- I am morally certain that if Lance had been an AFRICAN-American,... an HISPANIC-American

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Just ask Barry Bonds and Manny Ramirez. Or Butterbutt Clemens for that matter.

The Debonair Dudes World said...

Z, I have as much interest in Lance Armstrong as I do about the First Daughters getting Tattoos. None.
I say lest not get distracted from the real issues, and lets not let the Obamamaniacs change the subject and the issues that are in the headlines. Such as the realreason for the Boston Bombing, the attack in Benghazi,North Korea, Iran, Israel,Obamacare, Taxes, and Obama's interpretation of the Constitution!

Z said...

The point is less about Armstrong and more about WHY THE POST OFFICE FEELS IT NEEDS TO SPEND FORTY MILLION ADVERTISING SOMETHING ONLY THEY DO. They're not fighting for business and they're broke.

Free Thinke...I couldn't disagree with you more. And my post is on THIS branch of the gov't today, not "all arms".

Armstrong lied and lied and lied..."Why would I do drugs after having survived CANCER! I wouldn't DO that to my body!"
Most racers dope, but this was Armstrong, the constant winner.
This was a disgusting display by an American who claimed superiority. And wasn't.

Deb Dude...I think where our money is entirely wasted is definitely something we should concern ourselves with.

I'm Here To Tell You said...

Found on A Progressive Idiot's Blog. (Shaw Kenawe's).

Shaw Kenawe said...

Here's what was posted on a conservative's blog (GeeeeeZ):

Elmers Brother said...
They had scholarships for college, taxpayer funded meals, $900 shoes, driving expensive cars etc etc.... apparently what they learned in tie heart of liberal Massachusetts is to not only hate America but they were supporters of Obama too.

As sad as it is I think Boston reaped what it sowed.

Leave it to the Christian right to say something as creepy and hate-filled as that.

In addition to that disgusting statement I had the intellectually-challenged troll, beamish, come here and leave several nasty comments calling Bostonians pant-wetters who cowered under their beds--not to mention calling me a "Bitch" as well.

Classy jackass, isn't he?

So these Jesus-loving rightwingers crap all over Boston and now BLAME Boston for what happened?

What kind of people are they? I've never encountered so much hatred and nastiness directed at an American city that was attacked.

I don't know where their humanity is anymore.

Do they possess any?

I'm Here To Tell You said...

As for the Obama Tattoo discussion.
Theres nothing like airing your stupid idea on national television. What a Pathetic Moron.

Z said...

I am sorry but not surprised that Shaw didn't argue the points here.

Frankly, I disagree with the "Boston brought this on itself" attitude. I understand the motivation for the statement, but this could have happened in any city. Most cities are weakened now by the Left and political correctness.


Z said...

I'm Here to Tell...

This is all about Obama wanting AMericans to see what a good daddy he is.....while probably 70% of the friends they bring into their private parties at the WH probably have tattoos. Great message for the little girls, huh?

I'm Here To Tell You said...

A little off-topic, but what if the First Daughters decided to wear deadlocks and get tattooed and speak Ebonics.? Would Barack and Moochelle do likewise?

Z said...

laughing here; a Yahoo headline says "US OFficials and even FOX employees discount Glenn Beck's conspiracy theory".

EVEN FOX EMPLOYEES DISAGREE WITH BECK!? ???????????

:-) hilarious message the media sends, isn't it?

Robert Sinclair said...

Shaw is not only a hate-filled ass; she's a hypocrite as well. Now, what is it about the Boston Marathon bombing that she doesn't want to accept responsibility for?

Well, a clear majority votes to elect the MOST Marxist inspired politicians, suggesting the MOST anti-American values possible. Then they turn a blind eye to handing over for next to nothing, land to build a massive mosque, wherein American-hating rhetoric encourages radicalism among the Islamic population. And a population, I might add, that largely regards the people of Boston as useful idiots.

Don’t forget the governor of Massahusettstan accepted a check for $50,000 to help pay for Islamo-propagandizing law enforcement personnel.

And then, having taken away the rights of the people to defend themselves, Boston junk-yard cops ordered the house arrest of everyone in the city so that they could shoot of 10,000 rounds of ammunition against a 19-year old who, as it turns out, wasn’t even armed. In response to this most eggregious violation of civil liberties in the history of the United States, the people of Boston subsequently erupted in a flag waving demonstration and the singing of patriotic songs, as whenever the Patriots football team win a championship.

GAD.

This leads a normal person to conclude that the people of Boston and the state of Massachusettstan have made extremely poor choices over the past XX years; the chickens have come home to roost: Citizens who in large measure, brought this tragedy upon themselves. There are consequences to making poor choices, or sitting back letting the government make every decision.

Imagine that Shaw, leftist puke that she is, has the brass to blame the right for noting an easily observable truth… idiots.

Z said...

The media's mischaracterizing George Bush's feelings.
He has said he feels 'comfortable' with his decisions and is glad to have his new library show all that went into decision making...
but they're saying he's 'concerned about his legacy', which is something I believe he said does not concern him.
All he's said is he wants Americans to have "an accurate picture."

Z said...

Man, Robert Sinclair, as I said above, I wasn't one to put the blame squarely on Boston bringing this upon themselves, but you make such good points, I'm not sure I haven't changed my mind!

Sam Huntington said...

I just learned that Beamish is having an affair with Shaw. It's a sad, sad day for conservatives everywhere.

The Conservative Network said...

I don't have to read any further in
Robert Sinclair's post to agree with what he said...

"Shaw is not only a hate-filled ass; she's a hypocrite as well."

The day of the Boston bombing was a busy day for progressive hypocrisy!
So-called "Liberal, Progressive, Demorats” who support Obumer have a new slogan - "It's not fascism when WE do it!"
Bill Maher Calls Sarah Palin The “C-Word”
Sandra Bernhard issues “gang rape” warning to Sarah Palin
Letterman’s remark about Sarah Palin’s being Raped by Alex Rodriguez! A 62 year old man making a dumb joke about a 14 year old girl!
Wanda Sykes saying “I hope Rush’s kidneys fail”
And how about the "New Black Panthers", calling for bounties and lynching


Most liberals are morons, and Shaw Kenawe proves it. .

Impertinent said...

"people of Boston subsequently erupted in a flag waving demonstration and the singing of patriotic songs..."


And once...this place was known as the "Cradle of Liberty"? They and several other states that were of the original 13 colonies...have essentially left the Union as they deny their citizens their inalienable rights.

These Bostonians ought to demand the RIGHT to own arms to protect themselves....from further 4th Amendment violations...and their Keystone Cops...who after firing countless rounds at an unarmed perp....managed to hit their target...twice? Maybe thrice?

Go ahead....hide under your bed...or dial 911 the next time you're attacked or threatened.

Tyrone. said...

I agree. I don't even bother arguing with them ( liberals, Progressives, DemoRats, or whatever, It's a complete waste of time. Liberals are stupid. ignorant, and closed minded blinders wearing morons who don’t want to even hear the truth. They were brain washed from birth by their parents from the very day that they were conceived.
And Shaw, KP, Ducky, Libman, and Dave Miller are prime examples.

conservativesonfire said...

Providing a postal service is one of the enumerated powers of the federal government. That doesn't meanthey couldn't contract that service to FedEx or another like company.

Joe said...

The USPS exists? Who would have known if they hadn't sponsored Lance Armstrong?

In fact, who would know if they didn't spend tons of taxpayer money on many different things, like TV ads, radio ads, magazine ads, etc.

Gosh, we would be so left in the dark!

Ducky's here said...

These Bostonians ought to demand the RIGHT to own arms to protect themselves....

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In the initial shootout it's estimated that the cops fired more than 300 rounds at a pair armed only with a single 9mm.
They couldn't drop either of them. The older brother was killed when the younger ran over him.

The younger tried to kill himself but failed. Another sharpshooter.

Why would a bunch of private citizens firing at movement be any more effective. How can you assume they wouldn't kill family members instead of the perps?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

"Why would a bunch of private citizens firing at movement be any more effective. How can you assume they wouldn't kill family members instead of the perps?"

How can you assume the opposite? If this incident is your standard, then clearly, we should disarm the police.

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Ducky's here said...

CI -- I can't assume that, I agree.

However, what I can say with certainty is that gun loons who feel arming yourself is a panacea are gravely mistaken.

Darth Bacon said...

Pushing for readers here FT? Are things getting that slow over at your neck of the woods?

Z said...

Free Thinke...that's where you err.
When we disagree, it's not that we don't 'understand'...



MASSACHUSETTS CLOSING DOWN ON INFORMATION ABOUT THE BROTHERS;
THERE WILL BE NO MORE INFO RELEASED REGARDING THEIR WELFARE STATUS, THEIR COLLEGE CAREERS, ANYTHING THAT JEOPARDIZES MASS'S REPUTATION...THE GOVERNOR SHUT IT DOWN.
This is astonishing.

God forbid Americans get the truth about perps...
Clearly, even Mass. isn't proud of how they'd kid-gloved these kids, considering the background of the elder one, particularly.

The elder one was thrown out of his mosque recently for screaming that the Imam should not put MLK.Jr as a good example to Muslims because "HE WAS NOT A MUSLIM!"

Sounds like his mosque wasn't as radical as the lessons he got while in Russia and on the internet.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Ducky - "However, what I can say with certainty is that gun loons who feel arming yourself is a panacea are gravely mistaken."

I'd say it's far more a panacea than disarmament, as espoused by gun control loons.

Impertinent said...

@Duck:

"Why would a bunch of private citizens firing at movement be any more effective?"

Because anyone with a carry permit usually takes it very seriously and keep up with practice and familiarity with their weapons. Otherwise, they'd own a bat instead of a gun.

The cops on the other hand are only required to qualify once a year. There's lots of donuts that have passed through them in all that time. And there's many cops that have never used their guns in years in defense or offensively. Yet there's thousands of incidents yearly where your average citizen has...but the LSM doesn't allow the public to know that. It doesn't suit their left wing narrative or agenda.

Swat teams usually practice a hell of a lot more often than the parking ticket enforcers and average cops.

Then I'd say there must be quite a few vets in the state that are still skilled, accurate and own weapons.

Ducky's here said...

Regarding the topic of z's post.

The postal service is a quasi private agency and there is no reason why they shouldn't publicize themselves by sponsoring a cycling team.

At the time the drugging wasn't well known and there were very few sponsors for American cycling so why not.

They are going after Armstrong because in spite of the top ten racers in all his wins admitting doping he somehow thought he could lie his way out of it like a coward.

Radical Redneck said...

Recipe for Chicken Bostonian
Sometimes the truth hurts! I guess I missed what Nate Bell said that was wrong. I think he got it right.
And these scared Shitless Bostonian's are telling Arkansas state Senator Nate Bell he's an idiot. I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 that night.
And just because a few chicken shit liberals don't like what he said, it doesn't make him wrong
I share the same sentiment as Nate Bell. Wait! Wasn’t Rodney King as Liberal!

Z said...

Ducky, please let us all know through what other agency people can send a First Class piece of mail.
Thanks.
And, when the USPS has money, I, too, say "Why not?"

All European teams are sponsored by businesses, but they are businesses in competition with other businesses, such as Deutsche Telecom. Believe me.

Impertinent said...

@Z:

"This is astonishing."

Not really...they've made their state a gulag with booted thugs and pols that know what's best for them.

Ever seen a Mass state trooper? They look like they're ready to invade Poland with their knockoff SS uniforms. Same for the badged thugs in Jersey.

And I'd add that they're humiliated and embarrassed by the truth of their ineffectiveness and restrictions on basic freedoms. Next there'll be a shut down of the Globe on "security" grounds.

Maybe Howie Carr will stand up to these fascists. Duval is out of his depth....nothing but a token anyway.

Cradle of Liberty my tookuss.

Ducky's here said...

I wonder how many Boston liberals spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15 that night.

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None, we were grateful that morons like yourself weren't running around armed.

Ducky's here said...

Ever seen a Mass state trooper?

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They and I go way back.

Ah, I remember the days of the GTO.

Z said...

Ducky, you'd be hiding behind the first armed citizen you could find it you were in trouble on a street with explosions or gun shots on it and you know it.

So, what other way are you sending your first class envelopes?

Impertinent said...

@Z:

You took the words right outa my mouth!!

Z said...

So, what's everybody think of Gov Patrick shutting down the info about welfare, college entrance $$$, foodstamp benefits, etc?

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JonBerg said...

DORKY SAID:


"However, what I can say with certainty is that gun loons who feel arming yourself is a panacea are gravely mistaken."

Apparently he's unaware of this or otherwise thinks that those who armed themselves against the oppressive British were "gun loons", as well.

"The Battles of Lexington and Concord were the first military engagements of the American Revolutionary War.[9][10] They were fought on April 19, 1775, in Middlesex County, Province of Massachusetts Bay, within the towns of Lexington, Concord, Lincoln, Menotomy (present-day Arlington), and Cambridge, near Boston. The battles marked the outbreak of open armed conflict between the Kingdom of Great Britain and its thirteen colonies in the mainland of British North America"

Massachusetts seems to have become a BIG JOKE!

A Little Birdie Told Me said...

Go ahead liberals give these Muslim terrorists more benefits and welfare and while you're at it apologize for America like your Great Leader always seems to do.
I am sorry but political correctness kills again. I mean how blind do you need to be to miss that these guys should have been at least watched. They post jihad videos all over the internet. The older brother went to Russia for six months and was flagged by the Russian government as a possible terrorist. Now we find out that they went to a mosque with ties to Al-Qaeda but because the left don’t want to hurt Muslims feelings (which most are not bad people) 4 people died and 170 injured. When are you liberals going to stop with the B.S. if it looks like a duck and sounds like on to it is not a moose CAIR and the Muslim brotherhood is not a friend. Get it P.C. police how many more people have to die before you loons get it.
And while I’m are on the subject of Cowards, I’m sorry, the Boston police did a horrible job of getting the terrorists. The young, inept, terrorist had basically escaped capture until a citizen pointed him out to police. The police also set a chilling precedent that will be exploited anytime they want to do something. And other terrorists have been emboldened by what they saw. It is really kind of simple...those bastions of liberalness refuse to watch those who have the proven track record of terrorism. If they try it in Texas, they might end up with a bullet in their head before they kill one infidel. But you people in Boston seem to prefer to live in fear and give these monsters full range of your pathetic City. What chaps my ass is the fact that you libs and your pathetic president make excuse after excuse and still they crap all over us. The people in the mosque knew who they were and did nothing about it. I will never understand why some people can't look at the deeds done by these Muslims and still refuse to see the light. But I guess you would rather “spent the night cowering in their homes wishing they had an AR-15!!”

FrogBurger said...

Lance Armstrong has done more good overall than bad. That's how I see it. Maybe he did it to cover his ass but he still brought a lot of money for cancer research. Plus the entire cycling sport is a scam.

Gov has little authority in the moral department. Especially when they use doping products for the economy such as quantitative easing, number manipulation, etc...

I listened to a French market analyst the other day and the way the GDP is being calculated is being modified. Nobody talked about it. It now includes R&D spending even if the spending doesn't produce anything.

We're in a world where a lot of people cheat. We have to decide which cheating matters. The one in sport or the scam artists that are running out democracies?

Z said...

Birdie, to be fair, that's a needle in a haystack (or backyard boat in drydock)....doesn't most law enforcement have to depend on citizen tips?
But, on the other stuff: Welcome to GeeeZ and RIGHT ON!


Frog....I think of all the honest cyclicsts who didn't dope or didn't dope as much. And all the kids who looked up to Armstrong and stood by him as he told his lies.
Most of them dope, but this guy made a mockery of cycling and all the awards given could have been given to those who truly deserved the win.

FrogBurger said...

Most of them dope, but this guy made a mockery of cycling

He wasn't the first. There were so many who did before him. The problem is that he kept winning. If he had won once with doping he would have been ok.

Plus you can't win at cycling without great teammates. You don't win on your own. That means most of the teammates need to be doped too.

Z said...

Maybe we're all mad at Armstrong because of the huge lie cycling has become.
You're right..most of them dope.

I suppose we're also angry at being duped by the king of liars..." you think I'd DOPE after having had CANCER?" What scum that is...true SCUM, using his cancer like that. WOW

A Little Birdie Told Me said...

"a needle in a haystack"
Sorry Z, but the proof is in the pudding.
Think about this! We had over 7,000 heavily armed cops, with the FBI and with a few other local and Federal agencies with heavily armed trucks and other heavily armed vehicles along with Bomb sniffing Dogs hunting a single 19 year old kid in Boston, while 4 million cowering Bostonians stayed in their homes, under the kitchen table for a full day.
The Government officials decided to shut down ALL public transportation and lock down the entire Boston metro area as well as the surrounding areas.
That alone should totally embarrass the hell out of you Liberal Cowards.
We say, "We cannot allow terrorists to change our lives or they have won." Yet a 19-year-old punk shut down the Boston metro area, the 12th largest economy in the world, forcing the majority of residents to shivering in their pants.
In my opinion, the two terrorist brothers and their mentors, whoever they are won in their heinous plot in Boston. And the Boston Police as well as the FBI and all the other agencies who took part in this mess miserably failed in their task of defeating these pipsqueak terrorists. If you look at what really happened, the Terrorists actually won. . They won because Terrorist like to inflict a physical and a economical blow as severely as they can on their target. They won on this point without any doubt. The Boston police force and all these other security agencies failed miserably to weed out these known terrorist and lets not forget that the elder brother was known to the police and the FBI. They failed to catch them for 3 long days, and during that time these pipsqueaks killed a Policeman while the Boston Police and the FBI and allowed the terrorists to run away so easily from within their hands. And the worst thing is that among all imposed and house to house search, FOUR MILLION PEOPLE TO STAYED IN THEIR LOCKED UP HOMES FOR A DAY.
This three ring circus. sure didn’t do anything to make anyone feel any safer.
In the days to come, we will hear many stories of bravery and professionalism in the media, but the bottom line is it was a very poor show of our security agencies, and need to be investigated by a high level commission. For this mess and for the FBI’s failure to stop them before they even started, as they were warned not only once but twice. And maybe next time the TERRORISTS will NOT WIN.

And thank you for the welcome. :-

Z said...

Birdie: I sure do agree about how the Feds let the guy's information slide ... and we were probably STILL giving welfare, foodstamps, etc.
I'd have thought that the minute something like this bombing happened, they'd go into the files of who they've had on a list for a while...
But, again, it was civilian photography which got them, right?
Boy, those boys were COOL as they walked to it, or away, weren't they. Looking absolutely calm and normal.
Praying to Allah. They say most bombers take drugs to boost them into that zone but I think that's only if they're going to commit suicide in the bombings.

FrogBurger said...

Z, I agree there's a right to be upset. But I just wish people would be that upset and that angry at all the cheating that goes on by the people who govern us.

Z said...

FB....who can argue that point!? You're absolutely right, there are many more seriously egregious things and, of course, this post was less about Armstrong, who's been talked about to death...and more about how ridiculous a post office is which has zero competition and still spends forty MILLION DOLLARS sponsoring a team when they're out of money!


So, did you see my comment above about Massachusetts' governor slamming shut all information on these 2 brothers since the news came out that they're on welfare and food stamps, etcetc? OH, yes...Massachusetts is embarrassed, screwed up, and now is hiding information.
typical leftwingers.

Thersites said...

Apparently, Sequestration is not negatively affecting DOJ's ability to hire expensive litigators nor pursue frivolous lawsuits.

Sam Huntington said...

I’m not at all surprised to learn Gov. Abu Patrick has shut down information on the two Chechen Moslem Morons. It is possible that as all this information comes out, he is worried about the electorate finding out what a slug he actually is. I suspect Menino is looking for a way to pull his own plug: suicide is the honorable way out, at this point.

I think it is clear that both the governor and the mayor are traitorous filth, but they didn’t get elected through Immaculate Conception. Good move, Boston and Massachusetts. No surprise to see Ducky defending either one of them. I believe it is absolutely true that people deserve the government they elect, so now deal with the consequences Boston and Massachusetts … deal with it.

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A Little Birdie Told Me said...

Further information to back up my claim, that the FBI, Boston Police, and the Obama Administration Screwed Up and that the Terrorist Won!


Washington, D.C. April 19, 2013

FBI National Press Office


Once the FBI learned the identities of the two brothers today, the FBI reviewed its records and determined that in early 2011, a foreign government asked the FBI for information about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The request stated that it was based on information that he was a follower of radical Islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010 as he prepared to leave the United States for travel to the country’s region to join unspecified underground groups.
In response to this 2011 request, the FBI checked U.S. government databases and other information to look for such things as derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest, travel history and plans, and education history. The FBI also interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev and family members. The FBI did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government in the summer of 2011. The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from the foreign government.
Note that before 9-11 the Bush administration had no specific information on the individuals who attacked us. Here the Obama administration had the name and the association. If they had been paying attention they would have noted the trip to Russia to meet with the people in question. They could have followed him after his return and also check his online history.
Democrats continually attacked Bush for not stopping the 9-11 attacks. I predict they will not care about the Obama administration's failure.

Obama and the FBI should be held accountable.

I doubt they will be held any more accountable for this than Obama was for Benghazi.
But unlike the Bush Administration, The Obama administration will get a Free pass!

Jack Whyte said...

I spoke with a woman today who migrated from Russia. She wondered how the American government could even consider allowing Chechen people settle here. She said, “Did you forget about Beslan School? 350 were murdered and half were children. Did you forget about the theater massacre in Moscow? Did you not take the Russian intelligence warning seriously?”

As for your post regarding the Post Office, another example of what happens when government runs things. Now if you don't like what the post office is doing with federal money, wait until you get a good sniff of Obama Care.

Impertinent said...

@Little Birdie:


"shivering in their pants."

I'm sure you misspelled 'shivering'?

Even the weenie New Yorkers after 911, under Rudi, looked like Rambo's compared to the insufferable, elitist snots that acted more like burrowing rabbits. Imagine...an entire city actually surrendering to 2 filthy muslim scum who but for a chance, happening by someone who refused to stay in place / shelter any longer...found one of the bugs...and beating out the 10,000 club foot SS troopers and their "technology".

Here's hoping the 10,000 other Saudis in "institutions of higher learning" near Boston and Cambridge...don't decide to replace the entire MA government with a sultan and sharia law.

Now they know...it wouldn't be hard to do in Boston.

A Little Birdie Told Me said...

I believe that Shivering is spelled correctly, but whatever, I'm glad that you got the point, and I agree with you completely.

Impertinent said...

From a friend in Revere, MA.


Mass has at Ton of gun laws...
You have to have a permit just to OWN a gun. All transactions ( Including personal sales ) require a Form FAA-10 to be filled out to register the transaction with the state!

( Thus having a data base in the event they want to flash bang your door down and confiscate / arrest / imprison you ).

Shockingly, the Boston Marathon Bombers didn't have a permit or any records of gun ownership, but still had guns!!

And BOMBS!!

I'm shocked.

Shocked I tell you.

Impertinent said...

@LittleBirdie:


I meant they were doing something else in their pants. Which they were as the entire city needed Depends! To be passed out by Duval.

Ducky's here said...

Ducky, you'd be hiding behind the first armed citizen you could find it you were in trouble on a street with explosions or gun shots on it and you know it.
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Hard to say, I wasn't at the site.

My middle niece's best high school friend was. She was in the building where the blast occurred and came out and stepped over some body parts and tried to tourniquet someone's leg.
She wasn't strapped. She's a kindergarten teacher and we don't arm our teachers yet.
I hope that's the way I' behave but not having been there who knows. Weren't many guns there at that point. Who knows.

Talking to the youngest niece who knew the youngest brother when she was hanging with a Cambridge crowd, he was never religious and not averse to some weed and alcohol. Typical teenager these days.

Hard to tell what turned him but whatever it was we brought it on ourselves in Boston, right?

Z said...

Birdie, that's quite an article about the brothers. I'd heard the FBI had looked into the older brother and he looked okay to them. Well, you know, someone probably said he's a nice guy :-)
They're making the little brother look like Opie; 'gee, he liked sports,' ' he seemed like such a nice guy' 'he voted for Obama and was happy he won on his Facebook page'
And some people think that because their muslims neighbors are nice, every muslim is.
But, let a Christian do something wrong and all Christians are Calvinist (as if that's a pejorative) and morons and hypocrites.
Remember, if a woman who taught Sunday school 30 years ago and hadn't been in a church since, and then killed someone, she'd be billed in the media was "Sunday School Teacher kills neighbor"..

But let a muslim kill and everybody's falling all over each other trying to prove it wasn't his fault, he was nice, America's to blame....gee, he's just so young... man.


Jack...so many Easter Europeans come here, too, and can't figure out why Americans are turning to the socialism they escaped from. I know several Hungarians who are incensed.. Even Canadians I know can't believe this is happening to America.
thanks for telling us about that meeting; she's right.

Z said...

Ducky, after reading some of the comments here, yes, I'm beginning to see that Boston's done a lot to encourage problems.
Odd you'd only just mention now about these first-hand appearances and actions at the bombings.
You pleased that they're shutting down the information the media'd got on the brothers' welfare status, etc? Nice going, Duval...

The White House is in overdrive protecting him.

Pris said...

I blame the state run media, and our political leaders for this terror act, and the terrorists which were out to kill, and create fear, not the Bostonians.

The people only know what is reported in the media, and what they're told by our administration and state politicians. The media avoids any criticism or info, which would give people pause to think it through.

The media has become worthless, and political correctness is a country killer fed by so called leadership and the reportage which is in the pocket of "the left"!

To blame the victims is to me, so unfair. They've been misinformed, or worse yet, non-informed!

Everything has become a political game and every crisis has become a chance for those with an agenda to use it for their own power, and control of the people.

It was said long ago, that "ignorance is bliss". Now, that is not the case. Ignorance is a trap and a pretense which leads to apathy, and denial. The media simply contributes to it.

Z said...

Pris....well said.
I was of the mind that it isn't Boston's fault, too, and mostly am still, but after reading some of the comments and what's peculiar behavior TO Bostonians, 30% of me agrees that they almost nurtured the problem.

And the agenda thing has to STOP. By now, even I thought that the Benghazi push by the GOP was pushing their agenda just for agenda's sake and I have to keep slapping myself to wake up and remember how much is WRONG about that case and we owe it to the survivors and all of America to get to the truth. They MUST continue investigating and they are.

Anyway....how we all wish both sides of the aisle could at least get it together over terrorism.

So far, no such luck.

Impertinent said...

@Z:

"everybody's falling all over each other.."

Saint Trayvon syndrome?

Impertinent said...

I was thinking how easy it could have been for these mutts to have a "suitcase" bomb? You know...the ones that we fear most which have probably made their way into the US already? Either thru some port or the Mexican Trail into Arizona or El Paso?

Imagine what the reaction would have been? Sheesh..I shudder to think about it.

And Duck....they were thinking and talking about a gas main that had gone off INSIDE one of the buildings for some time...before the guns came out.

Sam Huntington said...

You know, Z ... the left is big on "collectivization." We have heard about the virtues of the collective good until it almost makes me puke. Well fine … then it is now time for the left to stand up and collectively take responsibility for allowing these horrendous events to happen. If they aren’t willing to take responsibility, if they are not even willing to admit that what has happened in the past isn’t working our to our advantage as citizens, then guess what? We can’t fix the problem as a nation.

@Pris ... this isn’t about blaming victims. It is about coming to terms with the fact that political leaders were elected by people who thought these politicians could be trusted. Well, they can’t be trusted. When these people did really idiotic things, bending over for mouthy Imams, in order to be politically correct, the voters said nothing. Well, how’s that politically correct crap working out so far?

As parents, members of the community, we should ask who has a greater stake in the security of our communities: politicians, or ourselves? Government cannot be trusted, and this has been proven time and time again. WE must take responsibility for our safety, and that of our children … NOT the government. But you will never hear a leftist acknowledge the truth of this because they prefer STATE control over every aspect of our lives. Again … how’s government doing so far?

Impertinent said...

@Pris:

"I blame the state run media.."

Good grief...that's what we used to say about the USSR when we sneered at them.

And now it's here.

Z said...

Sam, I think political correctness is the worst thing that could have ever happened to our country.

I remember when my younger sis went off to Berkeley and came back telling me I shouldn't tell certain ethnic jokes, etc., as if I hated that ethnicity because the joke was HILARIOUS and I laughed at it...
We're Armenian and I myself used to say "you know what the national bird of Armenia is?"..."the fly"...I was young and thought that was funny, but I WAS NOT OFFENDED..and told it on my 'own'..so to speak.

But, Sis came back full of the oddest, bizarre things .... and it sure did catch on, didn't it.

GOD FORBID we laugh at an ethnic joke, or assume that when muslims are about the only terrorists out there that it just MIGHT be a muslim who committed another act of terrorism! Or at least we should look into that possibility!

But no.....we have to do ALL WE CAN to hope it was a 'white guy'..I assume you heard about that 'journalist' who wrote that he sincerely hoped a white guy did it. what NUTS on the left...absolute FREAKS.

dayum

Impertinent said...

@Z:

"sis went off to Berkeley and came back telling me I shouldn't tell certain ethnic jokes, etc.,"..

Don't they call that the Stockholm Syndrome?

Kid said...

Money Laundering. Politicians profiting.

FrogBurger said...

Z, intellectual dishonesty is a sin to me now that you mention this story about the terrorist being on welfare. He was intellectually dishonest crapping over the US yet taking the check, the media are intellectually dishonest and Lance Armstrong was intellectually dishonest.

Z said...

Kid...you mean the Post Office?


Imp...good one! Sort of, yes.
I had dinner on Berkeley's main street last Fall and it's so beautiful, with old storefronts, etc.....very cool, very 'Berkeley'.....but, honestly, I felt like I was in enemy territory.
I posted about it...where some young guy, dirty and dressed like a bum (can I say 'bum'?!) was telling a policeman "What do you mean I have to move from this lamp post..? I thought you're supposed to take CARE OF US!"

ugh.

Z said...

FB...absolutely true on all counts.
But, of course, most people aren't interested in intellectual honesty.

The Shack's closing at the end of May...want another great Philly cheese steak before they close!? xx

Kid said...

Z, No - I mean the entire federal government roster of politicians profiteering. dem, repub, and other, by playing the entire population for the fools that many of them are.

And you can add the vast majority of state level politicians, and many local politicians but the local percentage of rapers being the lowest among the 3.

Stealing money, self-gratification-izing, getting over, scoring. It's all they do.

Here's an example. They used the 'sequester' to defend their furloughing of air traffic controllers (while they keep 800,000 non-essential federal government "workers" who likely do little more than watch porn all day on their taxpayer funded jobs, computers, networks....)
Yea, let's furlough the air traffic controllers who are the main line of keeping American's Citizens safe while flying through the air from point a to point b.
All the while, making sure uncle Otis keeps his totally useless job, watching porn on government supplied interweb accessing computer equipment, because that's what the federal gubmint is all about anymore. Protecting union "jobs" over ALL else.

And why do they do it? Pisshaw, it's because they know the bulk of the population are either not paying attention, or because they are as dumb as headless hammers.

My proof? The countless idiotic Commercials we all must endure...
-stuffed toys talking to women about what fabric softener they should buy -snuggles and what's wrong with you if you don't buy this product from such a cute talking stuffed toy???? are you a communist, or worse, a tea party member????????
- a 150 dollar value!, get a 2nd for FREE, just pay (absurdly criminally high) shipping and handling.
- a million more examples.
sigh

Impertinent said...

@Kid...


You cynical old bastard...but...you're spot on...stuffed animals...LMAO.

Try to imagine the poofs who dream that crap up all day.

Impertinent said...

@Kid:

"Yea, let's furlough the air traffic controllers.."


Wait awhile...there'll be a mid air ( I'm hoping it's a certain 747SP ) and they'll blame the Repubs and T Party when the bodies rain down on a street somewhere in
some Democommie neighborhood.

Kid said...

IMP - Try to imagine the poofs who dream that crap up all day. "Stuffed toys talking to (mostly) women watching daytime TV"

They have to be people who are paid to analyze the American population 24/7.
Which is my point of course. This isn't random, this is quantified. The moronic-ness of the American population is Quantified.
We're talking big money here. There is profit in promoting a product using an offensive (to an intelligent person) stuffed toy called "snuggles".
But of course Mon Frere.

Kid said...

IMP! ..... .there'll be a mid air ( I'm hoping it's a certain 747SP ) and they'll blame the Repubs and T Party

Yea. I think they've finally realized (they didn't forsee) that cutting air traffic controllers will likely result in an air related disaster (because they're stupid) and have to own it. So now they're trying to back pedal on the ATC's.

Evil reveals itself.
Evil reveals itself...

How many people are willing to ignore it? That's the key.

Impertinent said...

@Kid:

" cutting air traffic controllers.."

Ten years ago the company I flew for at BCT, Universal Jet, had a mid air after takeoff with an experimental out of a smaller field to the south. We didn't have a tower then....we were a "unicom", class D or less field.

It was one of our newest and first Lear 55's. 3 Guys on it for a simple ferry flight to Vero for a new paint job...we bought the plane from IBM.

10 minutes after they shut the door and I said adios to one of my buds...they were down into a condo. The EX had flown into the left rear engine of the 55 @ 2000 Ft..and sliced off the vertical stabilizer. It went straight down...nose first. They thought I was on it cause that was the last time they saw me and I was in and out of the plane...I declined cause I had other things to do and didn't want to fly the ferry.

6 months later we had a tower. Now...my old buds tell me that starting in June...this tower will close...

And all the corporations that have jets based there are moving from BCT to PBI or FLL. Lot's and lots of revenue lost to the FBO's...meaning jobs too...lots of jobs.

These companies have insurance carriers who forbid operating their multi million dollar jets into non ATC / Controlled fields.

They didn't care that we didn't have any precision approaches to BCT...just a lame VOR / GPS ( it hardly ever gets that bad here to need an ILS anyway...hell..I've only flown one to minimums of 200 feet a half dozen times in my 30 years! ).

They wanted a TOWER. They WANTED traffic awareness and eyeballs.

We just went back to the "good Ole days". And this POS could care less. Now..BCT is one airport...there will be hundreds all over the country whose economies will suffer...people will be laid off and the possibility of mid airs or collisions on approach / departure from these fields will increase dramatically. But...does this asshole really care who he hurts? Nah...the next crash wil be a Repubs fault...wait and see.

Z said...

Off Topic....Our 'experts' are now saying it's pretty sure that Syria IS using chemicals on its people.

Wasn't it two weeks ago that Obama said that would be the line in the sand?

Now what, Mr. Obama? Now what? You huddled down with your far leftwingers trying to figure out how to get out of that?

Impertinent said...

@Z:


And you expected what from a quisling?

J F'in Kerry? "Reporting for Duty" with bandaids?

Or Shillary..."what does it matter"?

Kid said...

IMP - :) But...does this asshole really care who he hurts? Nah...the next crash wil be a Repubs fault...wait and see.

It's in his book Imp. he spent the last 2 years of high school in a drug and alcohol induced haze - a quote-.

Of course ! it is the repubs fault. !

You know... They've had it SO easy with their all media propaganda machine, that they can't avoid getting sloppy. And they have and they will.

Cycles man.

When it can't get any worse, then it has to get better. Yes, it is ambiguous when "it can't get any worse" - it can go further than mpst think and it almost always does - but there IS a bottom. There is ALWAYS a bottom.

Unknown said...

z, I'm trying to be a more responsible citizen ad I really need the help of yourself and the other posters here.
It being a beautiful day, I was walking around the hood and walked past a park and a baseball game.
I noticed a number of Muslim women with strollers pretending they belonged there.
What was the proper response:

1. Run since I wasn't strapped.

2. Call Homeland Security

3. Rough them up.

4. Start searching their strollers.


Please assist me so that I can make my actions an example that will save my city from the Muslim hordes.

Ducky's here said...

That was Ducky, above.

Elmers Brother said...

You should cut and run duhkkky.

Z said...

Ducky, you should have remained 'unknown'...
You still don't get it, do you.

Only some of my commenters believe ALL MUSLIMS are dangerous haters.... not me.

THAT is the danger. THAT is what we're up against. No, we can't look in every stroller (though that would be a terrific place to put a bomb, wouldn't it)

I hope we all survive the possibilities. Because the possibilities are endless.

So, do we check inside those strollers because they're muslims? Sounds awful, doesn't it.

Or do we see thousands of muslims marching against the terror their people are perpetrating and count on them to turn problematic types in?

I hope you or none of your family ever have to face the consequences of your implications.

Impertinent said...

@Z:

"So, do we check inside those strollers because they're muslims? Sounds awful, doesn't it."


Not to me Z...I feel they've earned the scorn, distrust, anger and animosity many of us feel towards them. They've had over 10 years to march en masse to protest the actions of their fellow cultists. Yet still haven't or remain apologists or co conspirators in spirit or direct action. ( One example was O'Reilly's interview of the mutt who heads up CAIR, recently. ) They're demanding WE assimilate ourselves to their..."culture".

Never! Over my dead body will I ever accept them as anything but a fascist, criminal terrorist, political ideology intent on destroying us from within. And the Dem party as fellow enablers and travelers demanding the same outcome.

It's just a matter of when and not if....that we'll see something immensely catastrophic enough to make Boston look like an amateurish dud.

Just as Jesse Jackson has stated he gets fearful when he sees 3 black youths following him and crosses the street...they too have no one to blame for our caution and fear of their potential criminality.

It's no longer a joke when they say a muslim maternity ward is nothing more than a bomb factory.

JonBerg said...

Impertinent (I'd say Essential) said:

IT ALL!


Keep up the good work, my friend!