Do you think he should be officially taken down, no matter WHAT hideous stuff he said?
Can you weigh in?
Thanks,
Z
Tuesday, April 29, 2014
Not a STERLING fellow at ALL........
On Donald Sterling, the bigoted, foul mouthed racist swine who owns the Clippers; There's talk that the Basketball commissioner could keep him from attending games or even force him out of ownership. All sorts of financial punishment's being discussed, too. Really? We can do that to someone who's, in private, said deplorable things? Why not let the market decide?...let's say all the players refuse to play? Let's say nobody attends a Clippers game till he's gone. Isn't that what we should be doing?
Do you think he should be officially taken down, no matter WHAT hideous stuff he said?
Can you weigh in?
Thanks,
Z
Do you think he should be officially taken down, no matter WHAT hideous stuff he said?
Can you weigh in?
Thanks,
Z
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As I read somewhere earlier today.....being an asshole is still legal. There is no legal recourse for anyone to pursue the infringement of Sterling's livelihood or holdings..other than the free market.
Anyone who bloviates in the media to the contrary has both an inflated sense of importance, and a mistaken understanding of the reach of government action towards a private conversation.
Sterlings own words don't disgust me half as much as the leak of personal communication, and the politico-media frenzy over this contrived drama.
I completely agree with CI. And, since we're all keen on social justice these days, let's apply the same outrage to the racist comments of Jackson, Sharpton, and Wright.
I know this was everywhere, but I didn't read or watch this story and just clicked or turned the channel. I can't get all worked up anymore when a democrat says or does something racist.
What post is Duck commenting on?
Do you think he should be officially taken down, no matter WHAT hideous stuff he said?
First of all, the source appears to be a private communication between Sterling and his girlfriend. Is she pissed off at him about something else?
Second, I agree with CI.
Third, if America is going to punish everyone who has uttered ethnic slurs, are we also going to punish Jesse Jackson. Google-search "Jesse Jackson ethnic slurs."
The players should play.
They're under contract.
The NBA has ownership rules, like a homeowners association.
Meet the rules or leave to protect the interests of the other investors.
Fans can do what they want.
Nobody weighs in on that this guy told her to sleep with whoever she wants (black or otherwise), just watch who she's seen with in public.
That's not racism.
That's vanity.
"I can't get all worked up anymore when a democrat says or does something racist."
Although I DO NOT at all agree with anything that Donald Sterling said, in fact I do think that he was and is a Idiot for saying what he did. And maybe, he’s the worst owner in the league And yes he is a Moron. But however! None of these are criminal. It’s his right to say what he wants to, The last time I checked, we “STILL” have freedom of speech here in America!
Do you remember not to long ago when the NAACP wanted to charge a Rodeo Clown with a “Hate Crime” for doing a comedy skit of Obama! Did any one or any organization say that when they were all ridiculing President Bush, and depicting him as a chimpanzee ?
Sterling has every right to tell his girl friend to stop embarrassing him by bringing the aids infected brown man that she sleeps with to HIS basketball games.
And I do see a framed angle here, by having the Girlfriend bring up this topic while she was taping him. .
And that those who are trying to make this a racism issue such as Magic Johnson may have his own angel and reason for this, such as buying the team at a cheap price. And that the girlfriend set him up
These things have been getting out of hand in the media lately as if they were the only news in America. the same with Bundy, Phil Robertson, case’s etc.It's pathetic how they can smear and destroy a person like the NYSslimes did to Bundy and you all jumped on that like firkin hunger predators...all for what? To show how racist we Republican’s are?
everyone in this country, black, white, pink, etc has some racist-prejudices in them you think you will EVER be able to stop without jailing people which is what you libs and President is now pushing is sick, why is he commenting about a private matter all the way from Asia?
Here in America we have the right to say whatever we want too, even a racist speech is not a crime we may not like a lot of the garbage people say but that is part of living in a free society. Did we ever jail a Black panther or a Rapper for the disgusting things that they say? Google Spike Lee and see what he said yesterday! And worst of all, google Snoop Doggy and read what HE said. Or better yet, I’ll write it here for you.
"A message to the mother*cker that owns the Clippers. You b*tch a**, you REDNECK, WHITE BREAD, chicken sh*t motherf*cker,""F*ck you, your mama and everything connected to you, you racist piece of sh*t. F*ck you!"
I rest my case.
...move away from favoring capital.
lol!
What is the "use value" of an NBA franchise? An excuse to drink a beer witha coworker or argue with one at the water fountain at work?
Get a grip, duckman.
If the racist wants to talk smack, the "tolerant" thing to do is... "ignore him"!
Z - I'm not sure what - but something needs to be done about that man. He should not be able to get away with what he said.
I see a certain amount of justice in Sterling's current predicament. For years he paid off the race baiters and hustlers with donations to their causes, seeking to avoid the very scrutiny currently being given him. He, in effect, gave them the very tools of power and influence being used against him.
Sorry, Don, but you won't be receiving your SECOND NAACP Lifetime Achievement Award this year. And I sincerely doubt that the NAACP and UNCF will be remitting any of your previous checks to them, either.
Lets face it, the Teabaggers and Fox-watching, George Bush, Ronald Reagan worshiping Conservative white trailer trash who have already sided with the Racist’s against the President of the United States of America.
I ask all you God loving, Racist hating American’s, don't listen and most of all, don’t support these moron’s that are stupid, uneducated, blind, hateful, stupid people. And I stress the 'moron' part.
The good news take-away from mr. ducky's comment is that he seems to recognize the fact that the "re-distributionists" should stay out of the NBA Franchise distribution business and stick to more important things, like consolidating control over the 1/6th of the US economy they stole with the enactment of Obamacare.
After all, what is the "use value" of "health", if not to sit at home and collect unemployment checks from the federal government.
Sue - "I'm not sure what - but something needs to be done about that man. He should not be able to get away with what he said."
I disagree. He should absolutely be able to 'get away with what he said". If the 1st Amendment protections toward speech have any meaning whatsoever, it's precisely to protect unpopular speech. If it only protects speech of a bland sense of civility, then most comments on blogs such as this, would be suspect at best, and criminal at worst.
Secondly, who exactly would 'do something about this man'? What is the scope of government or law enforcement in matters of private communications, where libel and slander do not remotely apply?
The market is deciding.
Advertisers are bailing.
The market is right, AGAIN?
Whodathunkit?
The invisible hand is infallible!
This will all shake out when he loses fans and commercial support.
Obama was quick on the draw to make a statement. Perhaps he can have both parties over for a beer, worked last time he spouted off.
@Sue Hanes:
That applies to you too. Another hit and run pearl of suburban, Oprah wisdom.
@ Sue Hanes
Maybe we can start a petition to have him Tar and Feathered? What do you think?
A Few Notable Dems wise cracks:
You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent.” -Senator Joe Biden
“A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom.” -Spike Lee referring to Clarence Thomas
“White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”- Rev. Al Sharpton
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,…I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” – Joe Biden
“Obama is Electable Because he is Light Skinned with no Negro Dialect.” – Harry Reid
‘Hymietown.’ – Jesse Jackson describing New York City
“Listen he’s a nice person, he’s very articulate” this is what’s been used against him, “but he couldn’t sell watermelons if it, you gave him the state troopers to flag down the traffic.” -Dan Rather
“I’ll have those n**g*ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” Lyndon Johnson!
“A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee.” Bill Clinton
@CI:
^^^ +100
Yep.
Being a turd is still legal in this country. Being taped without your knowledge is not.
Google Snoopy Dog, and see the disgusting filthy thing that HE said yesterday on this subject .
Woodie, having the permission of only ONE of the parties is all you need to make it permissible .
As repulsive as Sterling's views are in terms of blacks, I find it even more disgusting people think he should be stripped of property ownership because of something he said in the privacy of his own home. If we're seriously going to punish people for their personal views and for expressing those views in their own homes, while applauding a gold digging hag who illegally recorded him, than we can forever stop saying this is a free country because it certainly isn't.
If people have a problem with Sterling, don't buy his product. If players don't want to play for him, don't play for him. If you can't work for him, don't work for him. But taking away his rights to own his property, in this case the Clippers, simply because you're offended by his personal beliefs, is the exact opposite of tolerance.
"The market is deciding.
Advertisers are bailing."
Which is as it should be in my opinion. Good for them.
That^^ being said, Sterling has every right to be a bigot and say what he wants. And the players, fans and advertisers have every right to pull their support.
Freedom of speech means that idiots like Sterling or Westboro or Dixie Chicks have the absolute right to spout their ignorant views.
But freedom of speech does not mean there will not be backblow from those who disagree.
The left screamed bloody murder when DC fans abandoned them in droves. But they had no issue when Brenden Eich was forced out because he had the same view of marriage that Obama held at the same time.
I have to support free speech when I adamantly disagree with it (Westboro just sends me way over the top in anger) the same as when I do agree with it. Otherwise I do not believe in free speech at all.
Sterling has to be an idiot. But calling for "something to be done about him" is ignorant.
Let the market decide. But like KAJ says! where was the outrage when he was actually discriminating rather than just spouting ignorance on a private phone call?
NAACP lifetime achievement award? Apparently you can buy those regardless of your actions, but not your leaked words.
"NAACP lifetime achievement award? Apparently you can buy those regardless of your actions, but not your leaked words."
As I understand it, the award was coming specifically from the LA Chapter.....who ironically had recieved financial contributions from Sterling.
Apparently, principles can be bought. Who knew?
CI...I couldn't agree more.
Mustang, right.
As IF our media'd even let more people HEAR Sharpton, Wright, etc., let alone condemn them for them! Not even Travis Smiley would slam Sharpton's racism, or Wright's, I don't believe.
Ed, I didn't see Ducky's comment..??
Waylon....holy cow, what a dialogue!
I agree with everyone;
And did you hear Mark Cuban agree with us, too? As he said it's REALLY SCARY to start thinking people will be condemned for whatever they say or do in PRIVATE.
This man is a total bigot and let the fans discern.
And, as we all know; this will blow over because nobody wants to miss a Clippers game! Sad, but true$$$$
I wonder if the ridicule's even hurting him emotionally? Or is he a Soros type who also sold out his own Jewish people ??
No way - let his market make him pay. And it should! You can see the value of 'shunning' practiced in some cultures.
And where is this crowd that's calling for his head when Sharpton et al spout off the same kind of stuff (as Mustang said) with impunity? I'm with CI on private communications being leaked. (Dennis Prager actually defended Hillary Clinton in print years ago when a similar thing happened with her equally ugly remarks about Jews.)
Lest anyone think this is a theoretical defense of principal without a dog in the fight, I have direct personal knowledge of Mr. Sterling's 'character' in social and business associations. I won't repeat specifics in public. But trust me, he revels in an inflated sense of importance and can treat anyone like dirt, even a white upper middle class scion of an entertainment family who was his invited guest.
It's Leona Helmsley all over again with that master-servant attitude and mercurial bouts of humiliation of others. But money covers a lot. What does it say about our collective character as a culture when we let it pass?
Oh, Baysider...what does it say, indeed? Not good, that's for sure.
You know, Soros sold out Jews during the holocaust and has said in public 'someone else would have done it, anyway..' Robert Byrd, the big lib hero of W Virginia was a Klan RECRUITER...
Wright says "GD America,"
these are all publicly known....and the left says NOTHING. They just keep honoring these people.
man.
http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-silent-on-malaysia-to-execute-non-muslims-according-to-shari-a-law
I don't believe any administration can pick up on everything at any moment, but this is troubling.
So Obama weighs in on Sterling but not on Muslims codifying killing Muslims AND non Muslims under HUDUD, or part of Shari'a Law....which he was made well aware of.
As one who cringes when our presidents are asked embarrassing questions by American media when they're out of country and focusing on other issues, not the ones asked about, I kind of get it; On the other hand, if you have time to dash right in and condemn Sterling, you probably ought to consider mentioning the typical inhumanity of Islam ..
The latest distraction from the list of failures, the scandals, and the horrific job performance that Obama is doing, is the story about a LIBERAL BILLIONAIRE Basketball Team owner named Donald Sterling’s Racist Remark.
A distraction? Yes, from Obama, the President who seems to love to make statements about Blacks in the news, like, Henry Louis Gates, the University Professor at Harvard, Trayvon Martin and now Donald Sterling but can’t utter a word about the IRS scandal, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, etc. Anything to take the focus from Benghazi and IRS, and the rest of Obama’s scandals. .
Maybe us dumb crackers don’t understand this so please tell me where I’m wrong!
But isn’t there more important issues, for the President of the United States to be concerned with then a senile 80 year old billion dollar team owner fighting with a bunch of uneducated overpaid athletes that get paid millions, because they played Basketball in the Getto schoolyards for hours and hours. And they just happened to be born 7 foot freaks!. Otherwise most of them would not have gotten out of 2nd grade.
Oh yes I almost forgot, He Did Impose Some New Sanctions on Russia Last Week, how much can I ask for!!
Sterling apparently doesn’t like black people, OK, is that a Crime? Is that any reason to keep this freaken story on the front pages of every newspaper on every news report on the radio, on television, and every other place I go?
Pretty soon their going to want to make anything said about a Back person a Hate crime, it’s plainly obvious.
My question is why should I care how Donald Sterling feels about blacks? And my answer to that is I really don’t! I don’t care the least. But I do care about the lynching he is getting in the press etc. etc. and etc. for expressing his own opinion in his own home on his own telephone, and having your private conversations taped.
Sterling is clearly a bigot there is no agreement there ..
Unfortunately, for the politically correct Professional race baiters like Sharpton and Obama have of course, jumped into their professionally offended black person mode. They smell either dollars or political coverage out of this latest media invention. Do not expect this to go away until the NBA forces Sterling to give up his team. And that is exactly what will happen. Yes even here in the USA!.
Is he worse or more dangerous than the racist maggots like Jay Z, Snoop Dogg, Spike Lee, or that Buffone Al Sharpton and the rest of those creeps? And the latest is that the former NY Knick Larry Johnson is calling for a all Black Basketball League... Isn’t that sweet. And Charles Barkley said that the NBA is a "black league" and it's time that they had some representation of their own.
And they say that only whites can be Racist
Warning: If you are pissed off easily, if you're really angry about what the PC Police are doing to this country!, Don't read this post
So the news is in, Clippers owner Donald Sterling was banned for life by the NBA, also fined $2.5 million dollars and can never enter the stadium again for the rest of his life.
So much for Free Speech in the USA.
So, in other words, if he had the guts to express how he felt, and said what he felt. He get a worse sentence than some guy who punches you in your face as you walk donw the street because he’s bored and is playing a “Game”
But if your Black, you can say whatever the hell you want to!
All this hubbub about Sterling makes sense now that we know that Obama helped to engineer the video lie surrounding Benghazi ... you know how the White House loves to divert attention away from its own corruption.
Donald Sterling, the “Racist”owner of the Los Angeles Clippers, was barred for life from the league and fined $2.5 million by N.B.A Commissioner Adam Silver on Tuesday for racist comments captured on an audio tape that Silver said Sterling admitted were his. Silver said Sterling would be barred from any contact with his team or the league and he will urge the league’s board of governors to force Sterling to sell the team.
So, let Me get this right. If you dare to say how you feel in the privacy of your own home on your own telephone to who you thought was your girlfriend, you are all but crucified and made to be the laughing stock of the world.
And Larry Johnson wants to have an ALL BLACK BASKETBALL LEAGUE. Please won’t somebody tell him that we already have an all black basketball league. It's called the NBA.
Maybe you'd like to enlighten me as to what you think I don't see.
And the Progressives are dancing on the roof tops. and why not? It's a beautiful spring day. They should be frolicking in a meadow somewhere in the Land of OZ with the Easter Bunny, Captain Kangaroo, and other IDIOTS sent straight up from hell.
Saladin Allah
I live in hell? No wonder my eggs are all melty. Who knew?
I am so done with the direction we are going since 2008. The liberl thought police is no better than a communist nation monitoring every word and a so called leader who is taking the country in that direction.
Very disturbing Z how Obama had no comment on the Maylasian executions.
Could be he may be one of them or just that he was a guy from the "neighborhood"
@ED -- What post is Duck commenting on?
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Late last evening there was an additional piece of content to this article.
It involved the distribution of wealth and I thought it might be a teachable moment but it was removed and the John Locke cult of property prevails.
@Z -- And did you hear Mark Cuban agree with us, too? As he said it's REALLY SCARY to start thinking people will be condemned for whatever they say or do in PRIVATE.
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Having Cuban on your side isn't necessarily something to relish.
This has been a time coming. Sterling's history as a property flipper who displaced a lot of minorities.
Pretty good article
Dave Zirin is one of the better contemporary writers on sports.
If the NAACP doesn't return Sterling's checks, does that mean that they accept racist donations and are financially supported amd maintained by racists?
...but then, we already always knew that, didn't we! ;)
And Kareem lowers the boom
"And Kareem lowers the boom."
Yep.
"Shouldn’t we be equally angered by the fact that his private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media? Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way?"
Welcome to Duckyland... don't forget to "tip" your moral guardians.
I notice that you ignore Jabbar's full statement which says Sterling should have been exposed as a racist creep due to his public actions before it got to this.
Gee Ducky. If you could read you would realize I had already linked to that and said the same thing.
Which proves the NAACP is only out for the money. They had no problem with Sterling as long as he kept donating to them.
Play both clips simultaneously...
Ducky - "I notice that you ignore Jabbar's full statement which says Sterling should have been exposed as a racist creep due to his public actions before it got to this."
I didn't ignore it at all. Tell me who's responsibility it is to expose a private citizen beign an asshole? Yep, that right....it's nobody's enumerated responsibility. Some assholes slip through the cracks of public consciousness....some don't.
Deb Dude...."representation of their own?" think that's bad?
Maybe some of you heard the press conference today about Sterling. A woman from Harlem Radio asked if the "NBA will be considering more African American owners"
I don't know how that works, but I'd have thought anybody who had the bucks and cared to own a team could buy one if it comes up for sale.
The NBA doesn't SELECT owners, does it? I could be wrong, I suppose.
But, suddenly...wait for it. There will be a quota of how many Whites can own basketball teams and how many Blacks can.
ARE WE TOTALLY DONE AS A DECENT SOCIETY? Are we NUTS for PC? Is this REAL???
BANNED FROM THE NBA FOR LIFE because of some awful thing he said in privacy?
Exposed because, supposedly, the ex wife is fighting for half the $1.8 million he gave the girlfriend who's 49 years his junior? MY GOD
A Reader: GLad you came by and proved all of our worst nightmares; there really ARE people who think we approve of the awful language this jerk used (why call yourself READER when you clearly didn't, but just jumped into your racist screed?) and comment before THINKING.
Saladin: ALL BLACK BASKETBALL LEAGUE? Well, I hope they never face an ALL WHITE team! You know who'll win that game!! (of course, I guess I'm racist now for suggesting that most Black players are better than most White players...:)
Isn't it a shame that we see nothing but congeniality at sports games? Black, White audiences, BlaCk White players...everybody cheering no matter WHAT COLOR they are?
But, one ASS makes this remark and Obama weighs in and we're all off to the racist races again....I hate this ...I just HATE THIS
Thersites...I didn't get the simultaneous thing too well but I sure did appreciate what the top video guy was saying.
KAREEM ROCKS. I was so afraid to read what he had to say but he's 1000% correct..ok, I take issue with one or two minor things, but not much.
Yes, this should not detract from the Clippers and yes, they should have known he was a racist and let COURT PROCEEDINGS have revealed that, not some little hussy, AND he should be shown he's WRONG.
I loved the article by Kareem; but I've always been a fan. I flew from Chicago to LA once with him....2 rows back. I was like a kid :-)
Ducky, what's your beef with CI? He's right. THOSE OF US who VALUE FREEDOM AND PRIVACY agree with Kareem on that.... Sorry he didn't quote the whole damned article for you; must mean he didn't agree with some? (ya, right)
Rita...Sterling will be back$$$ wait for it.
See my comment from the Harlem Radio nitwit at the presser today? UNBELIEVABLE
The point of playing both simultaneously is to highlight the role of the media in the "culturalization" of politics. It turns "solvable" problems into intractable non-problems. Freedom of association degenerates into issues of "intolerance".
I have no expectation of ever being invited to sit next to Spike Lee courtside at a Nets game. But then again, that's fully Mr. Lee's loss. It doesn't make me angry. They're his seats to share.
erratum - "Knicks" above.
@Z --- Ducky, what's your beef with CI? He's right. THOSE OF US who VALUE FREEDOM AND PRIVACY agree with Kareem on that....
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I agree that it is a matter of concern that that this all came to a head because of a surreptitious bugging by a gold digger looking for a pay day.
But Kareem is also asking how it came to this and why was Sterling enabled.
Why was this dirt bag the NAACP chapter's man of the year (Hint: Money).
They could have nailed him as a practicing racist long before this sad act.
Ducky; I couldn't agree more, as I wrote above. I wasn't sure if you thought CI disagreed with that and I know he doesn't.
WHO WOULD?
FJ...good point about Mr. Lee.
WHO cares, indeed...and it's HIS CHOICE.
He with the gold rules, dontchaknow.
Sterling will be back in one way or the other.
I just can't BELIEVE that something like this happens because someone said something in private. SCUM as it was...total scum.
And why hadn't they realized this before about him? MONEY.
anybody please have a comment re what I wrote about the Harlem Radio reporter asking the NBA commissioner if THEY ARE CONSIDERING MORE AFRICAN AMERICAN OWNERSHIP?
WHAT??
They don't pick who owns, do they? And they certainly don't pick on COLOR! Don't they BID??
Everybody does, and says, hateful, stupid, pointless things. None of us are without sin. All I can add is "what would Jesus do?" He states:
"But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." John 8:7 New American Standard
For me, 'nuff said. And let the market decide. Setting out to "get" someone for speaking their heart is just as wrong. It's also fascism to want to silence someone that says something "disagreeable". I'm so tired of all the phony outrage from the Far Left.
Actually Z, they do pick who is allowed to be owners. no one can own a major sports team in America without approval from the existing owners.
Financial ability does not matter.
If an individual wants to be an owner, they not only must pay to play, but get approved by at least a 3/4 majority of the owners.
That's why it was such a big deal when MLB approved Arte Moreno to buy the Angels a few years ago. First Latino owner ever approved.
Same with Magic and the Dodgers.
Thanks Dave for validating what I said here, 12 hours ago.
Libjerk = another racist liberal ass. There are so many it's just amazing.
Mr Sterling has now been banned from the NBA for life by the NBA commissioner. I don't know what that means for his ownership of the Clippers, but it might result in a sale of the franchise. If that happens, then I believe Sterling would have an excellent case to sue the league if forced to sell.
Ducky is right on at least one point. The market has made its opinion known with advertisers dumping the Clippers. We haven't heard from ticket sales, yet.
I agree with CI and others that Sterling should be accorded the freedom to say whatever he wants just like Sharpton and others. However, the reality of the situation is that this is the world in which we live, and right now such comments are universally not appreciated.
Sterling couldnt get away with putting his dream, all white team on the court, so he found the only blackfella with freckles (Blake Griffith) and spotlighted him everywhere (including hucking orange soda for Subway)
The leftist bastard Magic Johnson is hardly one who should speak out on Sterling's
character, despicable as it may be. While married and on the road with his
team he bedded down anything with a skirt and contacted HIV
I do not agree with one ounce of what that LA clipper owner Sterling said. But he said it in his own home .. Our freedom of speech AKA our first amendment rights are all but gone
I hope you liberal scum are happy now.
A Cons. Vermont Vet; THAT is so horrible...and what's worse is that liberals don't even get the threat. Amazing.
Not in my name.."A skirt?" "A"? :-) Ya, he carried on quite a bit and now's lecturing Sterling.
Spike Lee, "Mr. I stare down interracial couples until they feel uncomfortable" and Mr. Jesse "Heime Town Jews" Jackson...are all weighing in. Because, they're so perfect, dontchaknow :-)
Liberalmann...can you link where Sterling wanted an all white team? Thanks.. You are hilarious.
Dave and Ed....the woman was suggesting they don't welcome black owners and I don't know any evidence of that.
I doubt there has ever been racism in their choices; I can't wrap my brain around it and, if it has blatantly existed, they all should be banned from sports altogether.
Bob...were I Sterling, I'd DEFINITELY sue..and sue BIG AND LOUDLY....Americans don't sue for private thoughts said in private conversations.
This STINKS. HE stinks, but we all know that.
He has a fabulous law suit and I SO hope he does it because we need to wake up people that THEY are next if they applaud his being banned from ANYTHING.
Rita...I have NEVER HEARD racism as I hear from 'people' like Liberalmann in my life.
Liberalmann...can you link where Sterling wanted an all white team? Thanks.. You are hilarious.
The first player he signed as owner was pasty face, bad feet, white boy Bill Walton. Even let him play part time while going to law school (must have thought he was a fellow tribesman, LOL) Like there weren't any blackfellas around even then?
liberalmann..do you KNOW what a great player Walton was back then?
So, Sterling was supposed to hire ONLY Black players, is that what you feel? :-)
Walton was a huge pick; think ALL teams vying for him were racist? my GOd
"The first player he signed as owner was pasty face, bad feet, white boy Bill Walton. Even let him play part time while going to law school (must have thought he was a fellow tribesman, LOL) Like there weren't any blackfellas around even then?"
You didn't answer the request for a line or verifiable proof that Sterling wanted an all white team. Try again son.
"I agree that it is a matter of concern that that this all came to a head because of a surreptitious bugging by a gold digger looking for a pay day.
But Kareem is also asking how it came to this and why was Sterling enabled.
Why was this dirt bag the NAACP chapter's man of the year (Hint: Money).
They could have nailed him as a practicing racist long before this sad act."
Being racist or a "practicing racist", whatever the hell that means, isn't against the law and there is nothing to nail him for. If players don't want to play for him or workers don't want to work for him due to his views, they don't have to. This guy is an ignorant scum bag but it isn't something he should lose his property over. Its not just a "concern", its THE concern.
Then I should be punished from my justified hatred for muslums (new spelling)
Right?
And libtards should damn well PAY every time they use a term like teabagger. Right ?
Maybe a big section of Congress should be Kicked out for segregating themselves into THE BLACK CAUCUS.
Good God, it's like shooting dead fish in a barrel....
Maybe there is something in the owners contracts that alolows this kind of action against an owner? I don't feel like looking.
Anyway, welcome to our Kindeygarten Day Care world, where little suzy can demand that everyone play nicey-nice or else.
Except, blacks, muslums, mexicans, politicians and libtards are Exempt.
Anyone who can shoehorn their worthless butt into a victim status actually.
Once again, I can't wait until all these paradigms come crashing down on the empty heads of the libtards.
It's gonna be Fantastico !
In fact, Free speech has been canceled
Congress has overwhelmingly approved legislation that will keep the public not just at arms’ length distance but a football field away by making it a federal crime to protest or assemble in the vicinity of protected government officials. The Trespass Bill (the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011) creates a roving “bubble” zone or perimeter around select government officials and dignitaries (anyone protected by the Secret Service), as well as any building or grounds “restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance.”
He's right Z. After all, we all know Larry Bird was only hired because of the racist white owners of the NBA.
Maybe, maybe not. But it IS the reason he got every call from the 90% white refs.
Clippers ... appropriate name now.
Clipped an old white man and a Jew having a private conversation in his own home, on his own phone, of his rights and property in the NBA kangaroo court of injustice.
I hope as an owner he fires every one of those players who have clipped millions and millions from him and has given them all quite nice lives and livelihoods for street thugs who can throw a stinking orange ball into a hoop?
Some of our greatest scientists, pilots , astronauts who have made enormous contributions to society...have never made the money these clowns make.
Shame on all of us. Next you'll be jailed for speaking ill of islamist terrorists. Ooopssss....that's already happening in many countries....and will probably seep down from...yep Canada.
The NBA is essentially set up like a club: the owners set up a constitution, and they can black ball whoever they want.
And the NBA doesn't want Don Sterling in the club anymore. Let them kick him out.
What's the purpose of having a club if you can't exclude folks you don't want to hang around with?
Liberals make up whatever they want. They throw some stupid numbers around hinting that makes them believe able.
Tell me Libass, what was the percentage of calls did Bird get from black refs? Make up something, because we all know you can't count higher than your 73 IQ.
Tell me Libass, what was the percentage of calls did Bird get from black refs?
100. If he didn't they would have been fired. Or worse.
Z: Dave and my point is that the NBA owners are an association with rules that allow them to determine who remains in their "club".
Owning a team is paying the dues.
Why is making racist comments in a private conversation worse than, say, beating your wife or shooting up nightclubs?
Professional athletes do things like that all the time, it rarely results in any kind of disciplinary action, and even their better-behaved teammates don't seem to think it's worth protesting.
Not just in the NBA but in the NFL too.
No, this is not an opportunity to talk about racism. This is about freedom thought vs thought control. This is about freedom of speech, real freedom, not just the freedom to say only what Liberals approve of. This is a shameful day for America. If you support this nonsense, you support a level of thought control that would make Stalin blush.
It doesn't matter what the speech was or how rich he is or how old he is. The only thing that matters is that America has assigned total control of private speech and thought over to the liberal establishment. You now have no right to any unapproved opinions or thoughts. Even the fictional Big Brother never had such power. I feel sorry for all of us...and Sterling and not his gold digging whore. I hope she has to back to street corner hooking.
Get a grip, anon.
It wasn't the NSA who blew the whistle on Sterling. It was his gold digging bimbo mistress. Whether or not she is a member of the "liberal establishment" is not established.
Vulgar but there wasn't much anyone could do about it.
Ducky, if it wasn't for PC, which (trust me) most Republicans find ridiculous and damaging to our country and society, we'd have heard the atrocious things Sterling said and voiced our opinions and life would have gone on. Let the market decide on this one.
Buy a ticket or don't.
The point is HE SAID IT IN PRIVATE ... it's horrid (do I REALLY have to keep repeating how horrid it is, are we that bizarre these days that some of us feel we have to keep saying that?!!) but it's HIS STINKING BUSINESS.
He's got a black heart and sad character. Let HIM work it out.
That's the rightwing way of looking at it...so yes, the lib establishment does have something to do with his banishment,etc.
I SO SO hope he SUES the HECK out of the Commissioner.
"Gee, Supreme Court...this guy said this in the privacy of his own home....please okay our making him sell." are you KIDDING ME? Think they'd say yes?
Of course not!
Ed..I got it. I'm just saying it's inconceivable that this is still happening in our country....why can't the richest guy buy/own a team? Whoever can afford it, buys it?
Obviously, there are negotiations beyond just wanting it, but...
I guess what you're also implying is that they HAVE kept people out of ownership.
One CAN look at the first Hispanic owner as "oh boy, what a first...finally, they're putting their racism away" OR one can say "Hey, this guy's the first Hispanic with THAT much money! Good for HIM!"
T Krabby..the Clippers didn't tape Sterling
ducky
I think that's what I said? Where did I mention the NSA?
This is all total bullshit. No one gives a rats ass what this guy said except the professional race pimps and the always "guilty" YT's who no matter what they ever do...is never enough.
And so it goes on and on under this high priest and pimp of racial hustling(s)...Holder and Obungler.
Remember his "grandma" he threw under the bus..."typical white person"...and "my people". WTF? So none any of them are my people and I'll damn well call it as I see it. They don't have my respect any more. Screw them. Go to Liberia and see how well you're paid to bounce a ball.
When I see Sharpton hung on the same equal altar of PC and racism like whites...I might change my mind.
And as soon as the Negroes are held responsible for their racism as whites are....which will never happen.
@Z:
How do you come up with that?
Sterling a owner and a representative of the NBA has a right to his views. The NBA has the right to take actions allowed for in their bylaws. He is paying the consequences of his words.
"He is paying the consequences of his words."
Which were made in private kumquat. Free speech doesn't need the approval of an NBA goon in a mans home. It doesn't need the approval of anyone.
If he shouted them from Times Square...so what?
This country sucks...it's gone and given over to the hustlers, fascists and PC-ism will be and is our demise.
Bye bye Aamerican Pie.
Z, "They" kept limbaugh from being a partial owner of an NFL team.
@Kid:
Yea...you gotta wonder, don't ya?
Count me in...I despise the protected pets and the hypocrisy of this new Animal House.
Will John F'in Horse Face moron scuzz ball Kerry have to resign for his anti semitic remarks?
Will Susan Rice for her bold faced lies? Will Hitlery Klinton now ride into the WH on zero...ZERO accomplishments and her lame asinine..".What difference does it make" BS?
Will Holder be impeached for defying a contempt of Congress?
IMP, Seems so simple and transparent doesn't it. Interesting what the mind can refuse to see when there is a reward in sight.
Will the lying, cheating, hating of democracy Lois Lerner see a day in jail? Or will she keep pulling down a fat pension for defying Congress?
Will the dour faced shrew be removed from her $2 million adobe to face an 6X10 grey bar hotel?
No..of course not..but a silly old egoistical rich Jew will be bought down by a $100 dollar a day hooker? There isn't enough Viagra in the world that'd give this old limp dick a happy stick to make this harlot smile. And then the old fool wonders why she's seeing studs on the side?
Welcome to Anna Nicole Smith version 2.
@ Anonomous... The constitutional guarantee of free speech prevents the government from restricting political speech. It guarantees our right to disagree with our government. What the NBA did has absolutely nothing to do with our 1st amendment rights.
It is not me who is the kumquat.
@IMP -- Will John F'in Horse Face moron scuzz ball Kerry have to resign for his anti semitic remarks?
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What antisemitic remarks?
Is calling the Israeli Apartheid Regime by its name antisemitic?
Surely you aren't comparing this to the Sterling debacle?
Or are you suggesting a good starting point for reerching the origin of PC speech.
Z, I'm glad you keep emphasizing the public outing of private comments. That kind of activity is despicable. Really despicable! I could excuse someone taping a conversation if there were some basis for fear of reprisal or harm to you (I kept a tape on an answer machine where a tenant said he wanted to kill me, but then he volunteered the info. But they still wouldn't allow me to admit it in court!)
Remember that married congressman caught in passion with his married staffer? That was a leaked security camera video. Who leaked it? What price are they paying? If a crime (well, other than one of moral turpitude) is seen, take it to the police. I don't need to see it splashed all over the gossip -- oops, evening news.
This is why so many are up in arms over drones and other invasions of privacy.
And what's next? You contribute $1000 to California's prop 8 and the league kicks you out of the club? Gosh, I guess that's old news, too.
@Ducky:
Forgive me. I forgot that J F'in Kerry was from the sanctuary of Mass.
Yes Duck...his comments were anti Semitic. Certainly not constructive for a country that's been pissing into the wind for 40 years.
Palestine? Palestinians? A farce. Israel after 5000 years of history...not a farce.
Duck, If you confuse Israel with S. Africa, you are displaying your ignorance of Israel and the influence of the anti-semites on your thinking.
Palestinians hold many positions in Israeli society. Even the Knesset!
That's the problem with Kerry, also.
Uninformed by the truth.
Kid,
In fact, Free speech has been canceled.
The cancellations have been incremental. Now we see our so-called elected public servants wanting to wall themselves off from WE THE PEOPLE.
Anonymous @ 10:23 PM,
Why is making racist comments in a private conversation worse than, say, beating your wife or shooting up nightclubs?
It's all about the political agenda, of course.
Duck mentioned: Sterling's gold digging bimbo mistress.
She's set for life now, IMO -- just in time to save herself from her own fading good looks.
Z,
The point is HE SAID IT IN PRIVATE
Exactly.
And didn't she illegally record the conversation?
Divorce and palimony hearings for the next several years should be quite the circus.
I wonder if Sterling will refuse to pay and wash his hands completely of the NBA.
Sorry folks, these PC idiots on the Left have forced me to be on the side of people like Sterling , and Paula Deen and Don Imus, etc. Why? Not because I agree with what they said, but to defend their right to say whatever they want, especially in this guys case when he said what he did say in his own home on his own phone. But was set-up by that little Tramp and her Co-consperitor Magic Johnson.
When will this end? And when will this double standard end? Not in my lifetime, I'm sure!
Sterling will not be arrested, he will not stand trial, he will not be convicted, and he will not spend time in jail for his bigoted racist remarks. Therefor his right to free speech has NOT been infringed by the state.
Should he choose he can challenge the league's sanctions in a court of law. The bylaws of the NBA will figure largely in a court ruling.
The decision by the league took some balls. Like it or not it. I support Sterling's right to hold his bigoted racist views and express them. The NBA also has the right to respond as governed by the leagues bylaws.
Sterling was duped. He was also very stupid, a man in his postion should know better.
What is WRONG with some people?
Sorry folks, these PC idiots on the Left have forced me to be on the side of people like Sterling, Chick-fil-a. and Paula Deen and Don Imus, etc. Why?
Not because I agree with what they said, but to defend their right to say whatever they want, especially in this guys case when he said what he did say in his own home on his own phone. But was set-up by that little Tramp and her Co-conspirator Magic Johnson.
Free speech in this country doesn't need the approval of anybody, and lest of all a bunch of 7 foot thugs! If a man can’t say WHATEVER he wants to in the privacy of his OWN home, the we DON’T have Free Speech at all. Our first amendment rights are GONE!
And silly me, I always thought that the First Amendment guaranteed your right to free speech. If so, then WHAT WAS HE FINED 2.5 MILLION DOLLARS FOR? What did he do to deserve that? And how can they Ban him from going to the games, when he owns the team?
Ducky said: “Having Cuban on your side isn't necessarily something to relish on your side isn't necessarily something to relish.”
Well Ducky, your wrong again! If Marc Cuban IS on the side of Free Speech, then I DO “relish” what he said!
Mark Cuban said in effect after the punishment of Donald Sterling by the NBA, "In this country, people are allowed to be morons." Or stupid, or even Bigoted!
So tell me folks, does all this mean that all the Basketball players, and the Football players, and the Rappers, and the Black Comedians are going to stop using the “N” word? And stop calling Whites “Crackers”? Well maybe they will, FOR A WEEK!
And why was that assfaced, race pimp Jessie Jackson at the game yesterday? Did he suddenly become a Basketball fan? He claimed that he was there to show a "symbolic expression" to protest the statements made by team owner Donald Sterling. I say he was there to stirring the pot and to throw Fuel on the Flames of the situation!
When will this end? And when will this double standard end? Not in my lifetime, I'm sure!
Debonair Dude,
And why was that assfaced, race pimp Jessie Jackson at the game yesterday? Did he suddenly become a Basketball fan? He claimed that he was there to show a "symbolic expression" to protest the statements made by team owner Donald Sterling.
As if Jesse Jackson has the moral high ground!
Do a Google search of "Jesse Jackson ethnic slurs." In the list of articles is one where we read something to the effect that Obama's nuts should be cut off. Video and audio proof HERE.
Titan-ur-Anus, You are a stupid Jack ass for making a dumb comment as you did above.
I've seen your other DUMB comments on those Progressive blogs where you Hang Out but this one bets them all.
But what else could be expected from the likes of a Progressive Misfit- Moron like you!
That's why we need "progressives", to show us and the world how DUMB people can be.
DD: "Free speech in this country doesn't need the approval of anybody, and lest of all a bunch of 7 foot thugs! If a man can’t say WHATEVER he wants to in the privacy of his OWN home, the we DON’T have Free Speech at all. Our first amendment rights are GONE!"
You obviously have no idea what the 1st amendment and free speech means. Sterling's "free speech" was not contravened by the US government. The marketplace (other NBA owners) decided that what Sterling said harmed the image of the NBA. Period.
Now HOW those words got exposed is another story, but the US government had nothing to do with Sterling being exposed as a bigot.
A dumb wise -ass who calls his or herself “Anonymous First Amendment” and is most likely a Bleeding Heart progressive wrote
“DD, You obviously have no idea what the 1st amendment and free speech means. Sterling's "free speech" was not contravened by the US government. The marketplace (other NBA owners) decided that what Sterling said harmed the image of the NBA. Period.
Well, my BIG Mouthed “Friend” I think otherwise! What does the right of free expression encompass? The government may not: a) prohibit one’s own expression; b) prevent one from receiving another’s expression; c) compel one to express certain views; d) foster adherence to an ideological viewpoint; or, e) compel one to subsidize speech to which one objects. It is the right to express one’s beliefs, without any form of governmental interference, that is at the heart of “free speech.”
In MY mind, and what I am aware of the Meaning of Free Speech is as follows!
Freedom of speech, gives us Americans the right of people to express their opinions publicly without governmental interference, subject to the laws against libel, incitement to violence or rebellion, etc.
Why did the NBA Commissioner impose all those sanctions BEFORE a vote from the other Team Owners? And how can you stop anyone from going to a game when the person still owns the team? And what crime did he commit to warrant ANY fine?
If you have any problems with that... Sue Me!
Now if you pardon me, I'm off to work to make a living so that I can help to support the like of people like you, with MY Tax money
@ Patriot, you are obviously dimwitted as well as far removed from being a patriot as a person can get. It is car you, as well as DD and other wingers, are clueless about the 1 st amendment..
@Ducky: yeah, using "apartheid" in the same sentence to describe the Israeli government is not only anti-semitic but its also factually incorrect.
"Well, my BIG Mouthed “Friend” I think otherwise! What does the right of free expression encompass?"
So DD, before you call people "dumb" or "big-mouthed", you should probably brush up on Constitutional law, because nothing the NBA Commissioner did violated the first amendment whatsoever. The NBA is completely within its own rights to operate its business how they see fit. The first amendment protects us from the government infringement on free speech yes, that has NOTHING to do with what the NBA did.
I personally think its stupid that he has a lifetime ban while people who have committed actual crimes got slaps on the wrist from the NBA. But the first amendment is only violated if the government is doing the violating. I'm not allowed to use bad language at my job, that doesn't mean the government is trampling my civil liberties.
@z: this has been looked at legally from all angles. I'm sure Sterling will try to sue, but he has no legal leg to stand on. The NBA's own Constitution gives them clear rights to do what they did. I don't agree that they should have, I'm with you, what he said in the privacy of his own home is his business, but they were within their legal rights. The U.S. government or court system would have no authority to overturn their decision, especially on free speech grounds.
" something to the effect that Obama's nuts should be cut off."
Then the country found out he didn't have any.
Highboy is getting very LOW, and acting stupid. Tell us more about how stupid you at, it's a good day for reading your crap.
Worth the watch.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/XNUc8nuo7HI
"Tell us more about how stupid you at"
"how stupid you at". Awesome. So in other words you don't like factual information but information bothers you so you're emotionally butthurt to the extent that you pounded something insulting out of your keyboard too quickly for it to make sense. You mad bro?
Bro!
I used to wish I was rich enough to have a bimbo mistress, not that I would have done it. I just want the money.
Even the mighty can be brought low by their own words. That's almost Biblical.
"No, I just don't like Stupid !"
So try posting something smart. That's an easy fix for your problem.
Unfortunately, he can be a nimrod and not much we can do about it. Shame we can put a muzzle on him.
CI and Mustang are correct.
From Z of GeeeeZ:
TKrabby...the girlfriend taped the conversation, not the Clippers
Titan; I hope you, too, must pay the 'consequences of your WORDS' some day....look up STAASI (Stassi?..not sure of the spelling!) in East Germany and tell me how that's different from then.
Sid...better be careful what you say, you could lose everything..okay with you?
IMP: Brilliant observation there..and comparison; yes, liars about our really serious issues are being ignored while Sterling says some hideous thing in private and all hell breaks loose? And Sterling's a Dem...surprising they got him at all, huh?
highboy....he can't go to the Supreme Court and say "I've been had by something I said IN PRIVATE?" Really?
Is there something he's SIGNED that says he'll not be a racist??
I wish I had a chance to respond to you all...too busy and too many to read right now.
I will say this;
WATCH THE DAMN LANGUAGE PLEASE....I DON'T LIKE THIS PLACE TURNING INTO A SEWER AND I'M NO PRUDE BUT SOME OF THIS TICKED ME OFF. IF I COULD DELETE FROM HERE, I WOULD.
Thanks, y'alL! :-)
@Debonair Dud --- Why did the NBA Commissioner impose all those sanctions BEFORE a vote from the other Team Owners? And how can you stop anyone from going to a game when the person still owns the team? And what crime did he commit to warrant ANY fine?
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Because the league by laws grant that power to the commissioner.
Boy, if you want a display of sophisticated reason, just get a right winger talking about "free speech".
"highboy....he can't go to the Supreme Court and say "I've been had by something I said IN PRIVATE?" Really?
Is there something he's SIGNED that says he'll not be a racist??"
Correct. He didn't sign anything saying "I won't be racist", but he's apart of a business that drafted its own laws/bilaws and its own Constitution that gave the owners the collective right to ban someone if they see fit. The government has no jurisdiction to refute that.
Donald Sterling is a Republican
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/28/donald-sterling-is-a-republican-and-has-given-money-to-democrats-this-does-nothing-to-explain-his-history-of-discrimination/
highboy, I'm ashamed of my country.
Liberalmann...not sure who's right..the articles I've read saying he's a Dem or your Post article. And I don't really care, but the Post sure had to headline it, huh? :-) But, there's NO BIAS (right?!!!)
Ducky, could you explain your insult about the Right and free speech? Do you see how concerned we are about free speech while the leftwing media's all about HOW AWFUL IT IS THAT HE SAID THAT?
What a smoke screen you folks can gather around a very serious subject FAR more serious than one bigot's comments.
Jamerson; please share with us which of highboy's comment YOU think are 'stupid'? Thanks.
You DO understand how nobody should be condemned for what they say in private no matter HOW stupid THEY were, right?
ED "Duck, If you confuse Israel with S. Africa, you are displaying your ignorance of Israel and the influence of the anti-semites on your thinking."
Yea, GEEZ, Sarah Palin is even smarter than that !
@Z:
"I'm ashamed of my country."
It's almost the Confederate and the Yankees all over again.
Red states vs Blue. East and West vs everyone else.
No wonder people are stocking up.
z, the right continually misunderstands that the Constitution only prevents government suppression of speech.
Something like the Sterling affair pops up and they're wailing about "free speech".
Ducky, thank God they're "wailing" because it should be understood that anybody has every right to say whatever he feels in private...to anyone, without getting the flap this jerk is getting.
I don't believe the term 'free speech' used by the right re Sterling is necessarily about legal rights. But, the thought that he was illegally taped and his life's destroyed I'd have thought can go to a court.
I'm pretty sure there are laws about using this information when it was revealed illegally, too.
This guy is beyond condemnation for the ugliness of what he said but a lot of people say ugly things.
Still, if it's true what Ed and CI said about rules of the NBA, I guess they can do what they want.
Man, it strikes me that some players themselves have done some pretty character-less stuff.
And, when I THINK how Jesse Jackson spoke of Jews, or Spike Lee talks, or Sharpton.... no, they haven't a constitution of a company they work for to worry about, but I'm talking ETHICS here.
Let's bug Ducky and Libs house when there are news reports of Clarence Thomas or Ben Carson or Mia Love or Herman Cain or Allen West or Elbert Guillory.
Then we'll leak it to the Internet.
I'm sure they would never be caught calling any of them horribly racist names.
R.I.G.H.T.
Get real, z. Jesse Jackson, really?
Is he much in the public eye?
He opened his mouth and his Rainbow/Push shakedown operation was slowly shut down.
His punk kid wasn't allowed to pay for play for a Senate seat and now he's been sent inside.
Yeah, it's been smooth sailing.
Sharpton? He's got his radio show which I've never heard but I doubt it's any worse than the average right wing hate radio show.
Is he a political force?
Spike Lee? He's a punk and his films don't draw well but that's more because he stinks as a director.
At any rate, sports value advertisers. Big time.
You decide to get stupid and drive away advertisers and the boom gets lowered.
Just ask Rush. If it weren't for the checks he gets from the Kochs he'd be gone.
But really, Jesse Jackson? When does the right stop with that tired old meme. What next, Nation of Islam is infiltrating the White House?
Rita, Yea, the hypocrisy of the libtard is to Infinity and Beyonnnnddddddddddddddd !
hahaaaa
So duck how do you feel about me. No really. I'm white. Over 21, Fairly well off. Good Looking, Not racist, Pro-America, Pro-Individual Liberty for each and everyone and I donate 20 times more to charity a year than does bozo biden. Probably 2000 times more than the trailer trash obama's. Do they even donate anything at all?
Well Kid.
check your privilege!
Rita, Thanks, that's beautiful.
Yea, 'Nobody know the trouble I've seen'
You know, I do think there is something passed in the genes of people who did what they had to to defeat tyranny and oppression. Americans. We lose a bit of it with each generation it seems, but it was still there and strong 30 years ago or so?
I don't apologize for that either. It is all about good vs evil in the end.
And losers will always claim oppression. It makes it all so transparent doesn't it ?
PS Bookmarked btw.
Ducky, you're kidding, right?
Jesse Jackson mouths off about Sterling and you think it's no big deal that he talked about Jews like he did?
And you think Spike Lee's comments lead him into a position of integrity by which he can slam ANYBODY?
And Sharpton's insults to Whites and championing any Black person no matter what SCUM they happen to be is acceptable while HE slams Sterling?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?> You HONESTLY don't get it? WOW
Rita and Kid....this is a ZOO; the left has turned this country into a freakin' ZOO with their PC and inability to face FACTS.
Un believable
Yeah it looks like a good site to visit often.
My privilege was having parents who taught us that being responsible was more important than being rich, that being honest was more important than being popular.
@kid ---
So duck how do you feel about me. No really.
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I don't.
Raciss ...
z, if you can't figure out that an owner in the NBA making those kinds of statements risks backlash from the players then you are either being perverse or just not paying attention.
The league can't take a chance with this guy.
So Oprah moves in and buys the team and Sterling walks away with an annualized rate of return of something like what, big number.
Cry me a river for this poor schmuck.
Now, if Sharpton makes an asinine statement is it going to alienate his audience? No, so there is no economic backlash.
"Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round."
The fact that you feel Sharpton or Jackson or Lee is a threat is unfortunate but it makes exactly nothing go 'round.
Ducky, Let me explain again what my very clear point was.
THEY are criticizing Sterling. THEY who've said just as bad as he has, and some very much in public.
Now do you understand?
What 'threat' did you think I thought they posed? Nonsense.
As far as backlash... it was taped in PRIVATE.....no backlash needed to have happened. Understand that?
The NBA should have known what he was about after the suits he had against him.
By the way, you sound oddly as if you think I support Sterling? Are you kidding?
As I've said in about 20 times today; he's a bigot. He deserves to be disliked and the freemarket needs do its thing.
And, if the NBA had a contract with him to behave, they deserve to slam him, too.
And I believe anybody, even a stinking bigot like him, should be able to say anything he wants.
On FOX tonight, they interviews Black folks in Harlem...on the street. Many of them agreed with me: a jerk should be able to be a jerk.
@Z:
Thanks for deleting that POS lib's comment on boxcars...I'm sure he got the idea from Billy Boy Ayers...imagine...to suggest genocide and the murder of half of the country's citizens. Jesus H. Krist....where are we going?
As far as backlash... it was taped in PRIVATE.....no backlash needed to have happened. Understand that?
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So what?
Once this became public he was toast.
He has a history of serious racism and it was a matter of time.
Stuff happens.
duck , and the rest of the libtards, Embrace the Thought Police. What A Shocker............
Imp: I have never heard one commenter here from the Right EVER say the racist, elitist stuff that Liberaljerk does here on a daily basis.
Yes, put all 'rightwingers' on boxcars...nice, huh?
He'll come back now and accuse me of censorship :-)
Actually, he's kind of a metaphor for the leftwingers, isn't he. He'll say something truly AWFUL, then try to stop him, and I'LL be called names :-)
Ducky....I can figure it out. You're missing my point.
goodnight.
Kid..thanks. the voice of reason
duck , and the rest of the libtards, Embrace the Thought Police. What A Shocker............
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What thought police, bubba?
The guy goes out strutting with his chippie when his wife is after his scalp and doesn't have the common sense to curb his tongue and you're blaming the thought police.
The fool walked into a straight right (probably his wife who leaked the tape). It happens when yu're pompous and stupid.
Why do black people always defend each other, no matter if they are wrong and know it? One example: Trayvon Martin... They will always defend each other to the grave, even though that person was in the wrong. Sometimes it would be completely insane to take sides with that person, but because he's black and im black I will defend him. WHY?
An entire race based on the moronic actions of one or a few, no matter how much attention the media gives those people, they are always on the side of the Black guy.
Yes, I known that this is stereotyping, but to prove my point, just read some of “Ducky’s” comments..
I don't necessarily hate black people. I hate "gangsta" culture which just happens to be founded and consist mostly of black people. We see it all the time, on TV, in Rapper concerts, and even on in the movies. It's such a stupid self destructive and embarrassing culture. The thing is every black person I've met who's come from Africa or the middle east is usually really cool. They've also straight up told me they hate hanging out with American blacks because they hate the gangster culture as well. Having just come out of 3rd world cultures run by people like that they tend to want to avoid those kinds of people.
What's even worse is that this gangster culture is starting to spread outside of African Americans to pretty much everybody. I know white college kids who are all into the gangster culture and it's annoying as hell.
I guess they think it’s the "COOL" thing to do. Listening to people talk about they want to kill somebody because of the way they act...that person needs counseling before they become a killer. Is that better than being ignorant, or is that just as and more ignorant? And why don’t those “So Called” Black Leaders like Al “Sharpy” Sharpton, oe Jessie Jerkson speak-out against it?
Why is it that other blacks like Black Caribbeans, Africans, etc are civil but BLACK AMERICANS ARE HOOLIGANS!
Anyway, my two cents on the situation.
"I guess they think it’s the "COOL" thing to do. Listening to people talk about they want to kill somebody because of the way they act...that person needs counseling before they become a killer."
Paging George Zimmerman! George Zimmerman! Paging Michael Dunn! Michael Dunn!
Fyi- the Liberalmann posting here (not in blue) is a fake. It's a troll named Radical redneck.
duck, you ignorant slut.
It's not a crime to dislike or een hate someone or a group. It's only a crime if you discriminate against them. Considering he was paying them all millions of dollars good luck widdat argument.
If a crime was committed here, it was the woman recording him without his knowledge and then making it public.
You do know the guy has dimentia right. he's a victim!
Try again, or not.
Oh, right, Libmann, and the usual libmann is so likable and easy to discuss things with that you're embarrassed by someone you say is an imposter, right?
(wrong)
why even mention this....?
there is no up side to whoever has ever posted as liberalmann.
man
Z, OK, I admit it...... I am Iron Man.
Famous Presidential Lies
Written by, To The Point News
LBJ:
We were attacked (in the Gulf of Tonkin
Nixon:
I am not a crook
GHW Bush:
Read my lips - No New Taxes
Clinton:
I did not have sex with that woman... MissLewinski
GW Bush:
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction
Obama:
I will have the most transparent administration in history.
The stimulus will fund shovel-ready jobs.
I am focused like a laser on creating jobs.
The IRS is not targeting anyone.
It was a spontaneous riot about a movie.
If I had a son.
I will put an end to the type of politics that "breeds division, conflict and cynicism".
You didn't build that!
I will restore trust in Government.
The Cambridge cops acted stupidly.
The public will have 5 days to look at every bill that lands on my desk
It's not my red line - it is the world's red line.
Whistle blowers will be protected in my administration.
We got back every dime we used to rescue the banks and auto companies, with interest.
I am not spying on American citizens.
Obama Care will be good for America .
You can keep your family doctor.
Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
If you like it, you can keep your currenthealthcare plan.
It's just like shopping at Amazon.
I knew nothing about "Fast and Furious"gunrunning to Mexican drug cartels.
I knew nothing about IRS targeting conservative groups.
I knew nothing about what happened in Benghazi .
I have never known my uncle from Kenya whois in the country illegally and that was arrested and told to leave the country over 20 years ago.
And, I have never lived with that uncle. He finally admitted (12-05-2013) that he DID know his uncle and that he DID live with him.
And the biggest one of all:
"I, Barrack Hussein Obama, pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America ."
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