Saturday, April 19, 2014

TERRORISTS?

What's it mean....when we live in an America which allows for leaders to call good people fighting for freedom terrorists but, when it comes to a killer at an army base like Ft Hood, he can't be called a terrorist?


Weigh in, please.

Z

56 comments:

Always On Watch said...

Inversionism. It's been abounding and accelerating for several decades. It seems to me that inversionism has sped up since Obama took office in 2009.

We're witnessing the devolution of America.

LA Sunset said...

The military has been presenting training scenarios whereby American citizens are the enemy and labeled as domestic terrorists. This has primarily transpired since the inauguration of Obama. And today, we have a new generation of soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines who are believing this.

The upper rank leadership has been purged of people who Obama didn't trust, because he knew they wouldn't support operations similar to the one that just failed in Nevada. As this new generation is trained in this way of thinking, the less chance we have of seeing a military that will refuse unlawful unconstitutional orders to fire on American citizens.

An incident like Tienanmen Square is not an impossible event, in the next few years....maybe even sooner. Meanwhile, the dumb masses are content to buy into the GOP's supposed war on women and sit idly by, while waiting for the next The Game Of Thrones episode and lamenting the end of the Walking Dead series.

Ben Gazi said...

We live in a country where the Lefties AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT HATES us republicans- Conservitive even more than they hate the Terrorists, so how can we win this fight?
It's impossible

Always On Watch said...

OSHA engaging in a form of terrorism?

Excerpt from the above link:

Intimidation is the order of the day by this out of control government. After BLM, Bundy and Bunkerville, anything goes. This time OSHA is on the move.

Another raid handled with weapons drawn, this time on a company that recycles brass for ammo. This from OSHA. ....


It seems that the company's cell phones were confiscated to prevent any recording as to what was going on.

See the rest of the story at the link. Is this story true?

DaBlade said...

Nothing that comes out of these leftist's pens, phones or pieholes surprises or shocks me anymore.

CnC said...

It seems that the Socialists have declared double secret war on the real America.

Thersites said...

Terror is in the eye of the beholder.

Maj. Hasan was never a threat to Harry Reid/US government power.

People who refuse to recognize federal authority, on the other hand... if they engender popular sympathies and who's plight might symbolize the 'hubris' of said authorities

Ed Bonderenka said...

"when we live in an America which allows for leaders... "
Harry Reid is not a "leader". He is a dictator.
Semantics, I know.
But leaders lead.
He's a boss.
Obama doesn't lead.
He doesn't bring groups together and build consensus.
He bullies.
And then promotes anti-bullying campaigns!
Have you seen this?
Their anti-bullying advice is for us to just take it!
Down the rabbit hole.

Thersites said...

...the Tea Party, for example.

The Watchman said...

You are so right Ben Ganzhi,
Its not that they admire terrorists, it is in their nature to appease terrorism, because they see the actions of terrorists as almost being justifiable.

As the self loathing nature of liberal types means that they are unwilling to stand up for western interests/values because to do so or to take any military action to fight terrorism is islamophobic,racist,imperialistic etc. or whatever the term de jure is these days. But what did you really expect?

Thersites said...

Ed,

Don't worry if your bully'd. You'll get over it!

...someday.

Liberalmann said...

Hmmm...let see...When the ranchers openly challenge the Feds with armed insurrection? When they organize and grow with a call to arms? When they are encouraged by Fox News to stand their ground? When they put the women and children out front so they could scream if they were hit?

All murders are terrorism. No one said the Ft. Hood shooter was not a terrorist.

Nice try at deflection

Sparky @ My Thoughts Exactly said...

What it boils down to is the Father Of All Lies is in charge of our country and he leads from his behind. What's truly sad is he and his minions where willingly elected to the post by the evil and the stupid. And you can't fix stupid. I think we're regressing back to being barbarians.

Thersites said...

No one said the Ft. Hood shooter was not a terrorist.

That's not the problem. The "problem" is that no one in the federal bureaucracy (especially the White House) will say that it WAS!

Woodsterman (Odie) said...

It happens every time there's a communist with and agenda in the White House.

Anonymous said...

Every time?
We never had a Commie in the White House before Obumgel.

Opinionated Me said...

Barry Soetoro......or Obama as you seem to know him by his Political name.. is an unaccomplished, tax and waste, narcissistic, egotistical, entitlement PIMP has run America into the ditch!
The Libs or as they say "LibaTurds" have been covering up for the Lair in Chief, kissing his ass, lying for him, covering up his failures, taking responsibility for his mistakes?
Does anyone with an IQ above room temperature knows that these are two shameless liars patting each other on their backs.
Lefties sure like to shovel the manure high!

Kid said...

I hate to be a broken record. Germany 1930's.

anon, The Roosevelts, LBJ, carter, clinton and now obama. 5 commie administrations have caused all this damage since 1901 with no push back from the 'opposition party'. All the repubs have done is hit the hold button at best.

Hate to be a downer but you can see where this is going, especially since all social input is dedicated to the commies, and where at least 3 generations have been programmed to hit the off switch when an opposing voice is heard.

Always On Watch said...
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Constitutional Insurgent said...

AOW - That's a satire piece from the DuffleBlog.

http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/04/veteran-ptsd-bill/

Always On Watch said...

CI,
Whew! I'm glad to know that.

But, seriously, Moran is capable of just about any idiocy that you can name. I have zero respect for the man.

Average American said...

AOW

Fortify &
Unite
Communities to
Keep
Veterans’
External
Threats
Secure ACT

Read the first letter of each line. Rather funny actually. My neighbors all know I'm a vet and have thanked me more than once for it.

T Krabby said...

It's not hard to imagine why the wimp in chief is not dressing dirty harry, down.

It's clear from his recent speeches alone that this potus pos hates, disrespects and reviles one half of our citizens. Once more he chooses to fundraise while thousands of citizens protest. And he can't open his mouth like he did with Cambridge or Trayvon? He has stained the office.

From his racism to his polarization of this country he has succeeded as no other since the civil war of dividing us in two.

I don't blame anyone in Nevada for standing up to this fascist regime because they too know that these BLM hoodlums are under the same orders as the rest of the clowns were during the gov shutdown.

The badges can't help or restrain themselves...there wil be violence...they'll see to it and they'll provoke it. They have to use their new tanks and guns against us.

Z said...

JUST FYI:
I got my tax return we talked about the other day only 4 days after my accountant turned everything in....from the Feds AND California. HOOORAH!

T Krabby said...

Anyone see the similarities between Bunkerville and Bunker Hill?


"While the result was a victory for the British, they suffered heavy losses: over 800 wounded and 226 killed, including a notably large number of officers.

The battle is seen as an example of a Pyrrhic victory, because the immediate gain (the capture of Bunker Hill) was modest and did not significantly change the state of the siege, while the cost (the loss of nearly a third of the deployed forces) was high.

Meanwhile, colonial forces were able to retreat and regroup in good order having suffered fewer casualties. Furthermore, the battle demonstrated that relatively inexperienced colonial forces were willing and able to stand up to regular army troops in a pitched battle."

T Krabby said...

One for yesterday since it's closed now...


Why do people sing "Take Me Out to The Ball Game" during the 7th inning stretch when they are all ready there?

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Those in power have long considered any opposition, especially those willing to back it up with the ultimate means....as terrorists. Subservience to that State must never be questioned.

It seems that one can find comic irony in every situation; here we see the same actors and fellow travelers who decried the oppression of misnomered "free speech zones" during the last Administration, awkwardly silent on their employment during the present.

Duckys here said...

I wouldn't call then terrorists.

I'd call them a mob and a rabble.

Worst is that the welfare queen who won't pay his fees is some kind of hero to this rabble who seem intent on push coming to shove.

One hundred and fifty years ago in their state constitution Nevada declares the land to be under federal jurisdiction and we've got some on the right talking about a federal land grab.
Pure nonsense and this is nothing but the case of a skip who won't pay his bills.
The personal responsibility party strikes again.
Really sad.

Duckys here said...

... oh and don't forget that the fee schedule was enacted on executive order(!) by none other than Reagan himself.

The right has lost any shame or desire to stop looking like complete fools on this matter.

Anonymous said...

Those "rabble" feed you ya POS.

And outside of your eastern and west ghettos of 'tolerance"....there's close to 210,000,00 others who think you are too.

Z said...

CI...where are these new 'free speech zones' you oddly refer to?

Ducky...I'm so sorry for your belittling anger. Just imagine how it feels to the good people in this country who know there are people like you who call a very hard working rancher a welfare queen. And to think it's the leftists like you who encourage that. Now, even if he was, you aren't thrilled with the dependence?

Harry Reid is suggesting he doesn't pay his taxes. Many of us would like to know how he knows that...and we decry that because it's a total lie.

As for land grab? You have never heard that from my blog. Try that somewhere else. I can't deal with folks who keep coming to comment without reading the comments so they can more wisely respond. Please do that in the future.
I keep wondering why you and people like liberalmann have such fear. You're winning. DOn't worry. Your media's barely covered the Bundy situation, and when it has it has had no fairness at all. And we totally understand why it hasn't covered that, too. They barely covered it when Holder's thugs burst into Gibson Guitars with guns over their having supposedly imported illegal wood. They hadn't, but their owner gives money to conservative causes. oops.

American's are seeing what's going on....but slowly; the media's doing a grand job of obfuscation. Got to cover the Malaysia flight 90% of the time!

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - Why am I "oddly" referring to them?

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/free-speech-zones-blm-cattle-roundup-put-controversial-areas-spotlight

http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2014/04/the-nevada-cattle-standoff-and-the-first-amendment/

http://www.thefire.org/free-speech-zones-at-blm-cattle-roundup-put-controversial-areas-in-spotlight/?utm_source=feedly&utm_reader=feedly&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=free-speech-zones-at-blm-cattle-roundup-put-controversial-areas-in-spotlight

Z said...

"oddly", clearly because I have never seen this mentioned in all the coverage I'd read or heard, and I've read and heard a lot.

I have to admit I find them nonsensical. One can only talk about certain things in a certain area? Honestly, I'm not familiar with that, probably because I can't quite take it in and so I don't know to what you're referring in the 'last administration'..

T Krabby said...

@Z:

" When Holder's thugs burst through your front door....demand your weapons and ask..."Have you or are you now, a Member of the Republican Party"

Think it can't happen? Harry Reid has led the charge that we're all terrorists, racists and un American.

T Krabby said...

Meanwhile...


Breaking News From CNN! The Titanic Sunk...102 Years Ago!

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - "Honestly, I'm not familiar with that, probably because I can't quite take it in and so I don't know to what you're referring in the 'last administration'.."

Though they were not invented during the last Administration....their use increased dramatically. This is why I noted the apparent silence by Democrats and the left in the Bundy instance...when they were so vocal but a few years ago.

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/FilesPDFs/dissent_report.pdf

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Quarantining-dissent-How-the-Secret-Service-2816927.php

http://www.thefreespeechzone.net/html/whatis_fsp.html

Z said...

T Krabby..it IS happening. That's why I mentioned it. Just more forceful and more illegally now...under Holder.

CI..thanks for that. Can you tell me when this has been used in the last 10 years or so...just an instance or two? I find it odd. You can't mention certain things outside a certain AREA?

yes, it is interesting that the Dems aren't continuing to protest.
But not surprising, I suppose.

Rita said...

I've been hearing about free speech zones for some time now. First it was college campuses, then it was in Detroit when Christians were passing out flyers during a gathering of Muslims and now at the Bundy ranch.

The term just sends me through the roof. Last time I checked, America was supposed to a a free speech zone.

Z: Glad you got your refund, guess no one in your family has been determined to have been overpaid by the government, otherwise your return my have been confiscated to pay their debt.


Frankly, I am SICK of being labeled an enemy by my own government.

Pris said...

In my opinion, the Feds never should have had the right to take over State land. This has been going on for many years.

I say hooray for those Ranchers. It's time to stand up against leadership of Federal militia who don't seem to mind that Mexican drug cartels are crossing our border, or Islamist thugs as well!

Furthermore, the EPA and environmentalists seem to have free reign as well. They concern themselves so much that tortoises and smelt, are more important than food for Americans!!!

Baysider said...

The people involved in the Bundy ranch incident are no more terrorists than President Obama's opponents are racists. Harry Reid has so little credibility left his comments are almost like reading The Onion. Does anyone take this seriously?

The current assailant at Ft. Hood - hardly sounds like a terrorist to me. So I'm not sure if you meant him or Hassan, whose actions could not label him anything but. I can assure you, that if he worn a fish pin, even shouting the Islamic battle cry he would have been labelled a terrorist.

Why the refusal? Maybe the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Rita said...

One would think that anyone with a lick of sense would realize that coming to Geez and writing a tome that no one cares about, much less even reads is a complete waste of time.

But that would require someone with a little more brains than a question mark.

Duckys here said...

"They concern themselves so much that tortoises and smelt, are more important than food for Americans!!!"

---
That reminds me, Pris.

This is another good reason to stop eating beef.

Duckys here said...

@Rita --- I've been hearing about free speech zones for some time now. First it was college campuses, then it was in Detroit when Christians were passing out flyers during a gathering of Muslims and now at the Bundy ranch.

-------
Rita, Rita, Rita ... you didn't mention the free speech zones at the Republican conventions during the Bush days.

In fact it was a Bush administration creation. I can't imagine you didn;t know that.

T Krabby said...

@CI:

Hat tip...

www.TINYURL.com

You'd be doing all of us a favor.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Ducky - "In fact it was a Bush administration creation."

No, in fact it was not. As I stated earlier, these zones predate the W Administration.....going back at least to the '88 Democrat Convention in Atlanta.

T Krabby - Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I've been a knuckle dragger all my life, so the tricks with the interwebz come slowly to me.

Z said...

Rita..it's a real curiosity.
Libmann can't WAIT to get any very far-left information and ZING over here to post it as if:

A. We had never heard it
B. It's true!

the fun really never stops.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Anonymous said...to Woodsterman:
We never had a Commie in the White House before Obumgel.

That was Woodsterman's point.

Z said...

liberalmann...you don't have to keep quoting people like Rachel Maddow; we know it all, and it's just plain silly.
Don't you have anything ANYTHING better to DO?
I'm so sorry.

Rational Nation USA said...

We still do not have a communist in the White House.

We do however have plenty of PC to go around. The point of this post makes that imminently clear.

Bloviating Zeppelin said...

According to Harry Reid, I am a domestic terrorist because I support Mr Bundy. Apparently I am on a level with that of, say, Timothy McVeigh.

Lots and lies and falsehoods have been spread with regard to Mr Bundy and his ranch. One of them was that he was in arrears with the state of Nevada. He was not. His issue was with the federal government and how it changed in the decades his family had worked that land. Land that, somehow, the average moron and American Media Maggot seems to think is paved with vast tracts of fertile and waving green grass.

Not. It is a desert and barely supportive. There are many, many issues with the Bundy Ranch situation. But my greatest issues revolve around these few points: why here? Why now? Allegedly, according to the feds, Mr Bundy has been a so-called “Illegal Occupier” since 1993. And only now, the desert tortoise seems to hold the overarching topic extant? Really?

Save this point: had the desert tortoise been actually endangered, Mr Bundy’s Terrible and Rampant Herds would have wiped this tortoise from the face of the area. Except that the cow dung from his mammals help the tortoise. And the fact that the federal government ITSELF has been killing the desert tortoise in Nevada because it “couldn’t afford them.”

This is called a Load of Shit.

The Obama Administration and the BLM simply wanted to make a point, and the point is this: we can do what we want when we want because we have the power and you do not. Frankly, I don’t give a shit that Bundy owed cash for grazing fees. You want your cash? Place a LIEN on his property.

That would have been simple and quiet. But no, the federal government wouldn’t settle for quiet and obvious. I don’t dispute the courts or the rulings. But I DO dispute the issues of state rights and the issues of HOW to handle a situation similar to Mr Bundy.

You do NOT send BLM occupiers out to the land, and you don’t steal his cattle in front of every form of media possible. And you do not send bearded and MP-5 carrying vested federal officers and snipers to his land. They were not “average” cops.

I’ve been a cop for 41 years. I still am. I could have avoided this crap with roughly a 30 minute conversation between two adults, and a couple of glasses of iced tea.

The government wanted a confrontation and that much is obvious. It wanted to go in Large and In Charge. What it did NOT account for, however, was the technology so readily available to the Masses these days — technology that can be applied to anyone by anyone.

Finally: make no mistake. The federal government will brook no resistance. They WILL be back.

BZ

Ed Bonderenka said...

@Rational:
"We still do not have a communist in the White House."
When did Valerie Jarret leave?

Janet Ramos said...

Rational Nation USA said...
"We still do not have a communist in the White House.
We do however have plenty of PC to go around. The point of this post makes that imminently clear"
.

Well that’s Interesting, but it ISN’T true. Let us look at the Video tape, and see if Barack Hussein Obama has or had any ties to: The Communist Party, The Democratic Socialists of America, The Communist New Party and Progress Chicago Political Party, The Communist Committees of Correspondence, The Chicago Socialist Movement, Communist Organization known as ACORN and Project Vote, Communist Organization SEIU, and Annenberg Challenge and Woods Fund, the Marxist-Led "New Party" and “Progressive Chicago” party, Hows that Mr. Ration Nation? SCARY! ISN’T IT...

Even Mychal Massie, the Black Columnist for WND said “ It's time to admit Obama is a communist” And said: “His intentions, along with the intentions of the people he has surrounded himself with, are to destroy the American capitalist system and usher in communism.”


But thank you for all your inspiring MISS-information....I hope that suit your Highness.....

Anonymous said...

How fortunate we are to have ARSE-holes like Comrade Shaw, Dave, and Liberalmann around these blogs to “show us the way” their sick mentality and frankly, I'm just sick and tired of that stupid, sick, mentality.

Rational Nation USA said...

Normal rational thinking people see through the bullshit Janet Ramos, too bad you don't also.

@ Anonomous, with uneducated ARSE-holes like you around in wingnut right blogistan the cyber world most definitely gets plenty of stupid, sick, mentality. Keep plugging on, we know you will.

Constitutional Insurgent said...

Z - Here's an interesting take on the Bundy situation from a fellow rancher...some details that haven't been found in the media, or well enough expressed by Bundy supporters.

http://tinyurl.com/qjxehlr

Z said...

thanks, CI...it'll be my blog Monday...best article I've read yet....it's exactly what I'd suspected and even said here "this guy's too good a man to have screwed the country like they're saying he is."
He is NOT.

THis is the best link we've seen on this situation; I really do thank you