Thursday, April 17, 2014

Scandals and Questions............pick one

1. NSA Spying
2. Fast and Furious
3. Benghazi's unanswered questions
4. IRS' unanswered questions and the stalling on information release.
5. Affordable Care Act's never having been read and now being changed without Congress

Which would you say is the worst affront to our Constitution?

I was thinking how much the word SCANDAL is used even by the leftwing media for so much of Obama's presidency.  Weird.

Z

101 comments:

Rita said...

IRS. I've maintained that all along. And now it's been revealed Lois Lerner was attempting to persuade to DOJ to start criminal prosecution of the same groups she was targeting.

Frightening.

Always On Watch said...

Number 5. I see that one as the most blatant violation of our Constitution. Obama has done more than tweak the ACA. He has changed much of the essence of it!

In my view, a Congress that doesn't actually read the bills passed into law should be brought up on charges of political malpractice.

Rottweiler said...

You're right - liberals lying about wealth and taxes is nothing new while unconstitutional entitlements and handouts chews up 70% of our tax dollars....
Once again we see the parasite class is not paying their fair share while the upper class in this nation are burdened with paying damn near everything.

The bottom 50% earns 12% of the wealth but pays just 2% of the taxes. Meanwhile the top 1% earns 19% of the wealth but pays 37% of the taxes
You have to hand it to theses lying liberals - they lied so much they have some American's duped, even some of their own!!

Ed Bonderenka said...

The Scandal is that the general public has no idea what we're talking about.
That in a Fox Poll (oh, it's only Faux...) that CnC highlighted, that 61% of registered voters (Americans) think Obama is lying "some' or "most of the time" on important issues.

Breakout said...

To be absolutely honest, although, I didn’t vote for him, I had better hopes for him when he was first elected. I knew he had inherited a failing economy and massive debt, not to mention problem overseas. But during his six years in office I have watched him play the blame game and the race card. I have watched in disbelief as the laws of our land have been selectively enforced. I have witnessed unemployment remain unacceptably high and our economy remain stagnant. I have seen him waste literally trillions of taxpayer dollars. It almost seems as if Mr. Obama is much more concerned with his progressive socialist agenda than what is actually best for America. Then between the endless lies, scandals and cover ups and a corrupt and less than honest administration, Mr. Obama continues to try to spin his way out of important issues he seems to have no solutions for what so ever.
And talking about taxe. sI saw something very disturbing on the news last night. The average American is now paying more in taxes than for food, clothing, and shelter, combined. So now, as I watch Mr. Obama my best hope is that he does not continue to damage our nation any further. This man has disappointed me greatly, I have never voted for him as I had watched him during his campaigns and I was convinced he was lying. Mr. Obama seems to be a man of many words and very little action. Mr. Obama has attempted to raise taxes some 460 times, and now we are all taxed to the max. Many of us now pay more in taxes than we actually take home. I now pay a staggering 52 % of my pay in taxes, in other words, Obama now gets more than I do for my labor. Margret Thatcher was right when she said that the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. I now truly believe that Mr. Obama has failed us all. I can no longer believe anything he says and almost daily I am disappointed in his overall performance. Mr. Obama has proven himself to be nothing more than another lying liberal empty suit.

Remember Ben Gazi said...

Seriously the guy has lied to the American people so many times I have lost count.
He has more scandals under his belt than all the presidents combined and has put us in more debt than all of the previous presidents.

You really have to be brain dead at this point to think anything he does is going to benefit the American People.

Always On Watch said...

Remember Ben Gazi,
You really have to be brain dead at this point to think anything he does is going to benefit the American People.

Exactly!

Anonymous said...

Reading this blog makes me wonder just how disappointing this all must be for the left, the radical "Progressives" as they wish to be called these days.TYhey don't have a leg to stand on these days. I hop that Obamacare paid for the amputation. .
LOL. .

Frida Van der Wiener said...

Hello Again My Dear Blogging Friends
Thank you once again for another great topic and so timely as well.In regard to your post on Tuesday, I found myself commenting on the subject on another blog yesterday.
And then after reading another blog this week titled “What if Bundy Ranch Were Owned by a Bunch of Black People?”
I tried to comment on another blog that happens to be a “progressive one” about this and was all but attacked for giving my opinion. And I was called everything under the sun be the author of that blog.
But It made me wonder and read up on this entire unfolding drama at the 67-year-old Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy. So I decided to dig up some of the background on the situation.
Taking a common property resource and making sure it's used fairly. That all who use that resource, contribute to its greater good. Sort of like the idea of a nation. Where all who live there, participate and contribute.
And the Feds saw fit to retreat once the truth came out of Harry Reid's involvement in this thing. Whether he's right or wrong, I don't like the Feds blasting in with guns, like Janet Reno ordered in the Elián González affair in Miami, Florida.
My biggest complaint is about the people who stop by most blogs only to leave a useless comment that reads like a 5-year old wrote it and makes no sense. It's time-consuming to go through them all and delete these.
The world we live in these days is not only an interesting world we live in but it can also be a very dangerous world, as we see in the headlines every day. And some people just love negativity and spend their lives wallowing in it. I guess to them it creates great pleasure . So we've got to fight the negative with an overwhelming amount of Positive
PS, I love your blog especially this one. And I can't wait to hear the thoughts of the others who comment here and do so with making thoughts that make sense.

Have a great day!

Liberalmann said...

The short list of wingnut's fabricated scandals all in one place! Thanks!

Joe said...

Obama and the Obama administration has made a mockery of the law through their selective enforcement of it.

Mustang said...

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

The question, then, did the framer’s actually intend this as the law of our land, or didn’t they? If the government can renege on this law, what other laws can the government ignore in order to sustain itself? NSA spying on Americans is an affront to the basic tenets of our Constitution, and I believe, the most egregious ... which brings me to another thought offered by our founding fathers: “They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety.

Frida Van der Wiener said...

“Voters say Obama lies to the country on important matters”
By Dana Blanton

”About six in ten American voters think Barack Obama lies to the country on important matters some or most of the time, according to a Fox News poll released Wednesday.

Thirty-seven percent think Obama lies “most of the time,” while another 24 percent say he lies “some of the time.” Twenty percent of voters say “only now and then” and 15 percent “never.”


And we all know who those “15 percenter’s” are, don’t we!
Here for the poll results.

President Obama has been accused by political opponents and media fact-checkers alike of telling falsehoods. Frequently cited: His repeated claim that under Obamacare “If you like your plan, you can keep it” and his insistence that “the day after Benghazi happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism.”

The number of voters saying Obama lies “most of the time” includes 13 percent of Democrats. It also includes 12 percent of blacks, 16 percent of liberals, 31 percent of unmarried women and 34 percent of those under age 30 -- ALLkey Obama Constituencies

Anonymous said...

Same Old, Same Old, Another day...Another LIE!

Duckys here said...

Benghazi and F&F have nothing to do with the constitution.

IRS was not even a violation of law.

ACA is in a grey zone. Just what is the executives power?

NSA spying is a clear violation of the Constitution and quite frankly makes a mockery of it.

Anonymous said...

In regard to the Bundy Ranch scandal, Harry Reid,is a Brown Shirt piece of shit.

WomanHonorThyself said...

Intimidation is the order of the day by this out of control government Z...blessed holiday to u sweet friend:)

T Krabby said...

The IRS.

One look at the face of Lois Lerner tells me that hers is the face of evil incarnate and the attitude of most of her power mad, criminal associates.

Her smug, arrogant, condescending, lying, thieving, conniving FU with bravado is what we should fear. Because she's not alone. Every IRS bumbling, lying bureaucrat has had the audacity to tell Congress to go to hell.

The IRS needs to be dismantled, abolished and the guilty jailed and not given a pension or rewards for their conduct and abstinence.

They alone are the ones who terrorize and take freedom from every American.

In a just world...she'd be in prison along with Cummings and every head of the IRS to date.

T Krabby said...

Correction: Obstinence.

Always On Watch said...

Mustang's comment is spot on.

Of course, government spying hasn't been limited to the Obama administration. But now the capability of spying technology is straight out of the pages on numerous dystopian novels.

Always On Watch said...

Breakout,
I didn’t vote for him, I had better hopes for him when he was first elected.

Same here.

But the race card came flying out early on -- with regard to the professor vs. the Cambridge Police. Obama admitted that he didn't even know the facts, yet still he played the race card. Followed by a beer summit. Sheesh.

Remember Ben Gazhi said...

Exactly, and let's not forget the line " if I had a son, he would look like that little thug"

Anonymous said...

I'm with Ducky on the analysis of what is more a violation of the Constitution.

The ACA highlights the problem of executive powers. I don't think Obama is the first one to use them. I even learned that in France about the American system of government.

The other ones relate more to ethics and incompetence and foolishness.

FrogBurger

Anonymous said...

You know what that list shows: the American gov and its agencies are getting a lot better at going after the citizens. When I see the swat teams deployed for a bunch cows grazing on dry land, I know this country isn't going in the right direction. We're slowly on the road to fascism.

FrogBurger

Anonymous said...

"We're slowly on the road to fascism."


Not very damn willingly....there's no white flags in a free Americans arsenal. We're not the French. And if there has to be blood to prove it....let the feds start first.

Sam Huntington said...

The worst affront to our Constitution is NSA spying on citizens, but the truth is that each of these incidents goes a very long way to explain why the American people no longer trust their government.

Some of these scandals are self-inflicted, because when the people vote for an utter moron like Obama, then they should expect him to appoint others of his ilk to his cabinet. When the people “give power” to government, as in the power to collect taxes—which is a law enforcement role, DO NOT EXPECT the government to EVER give up that power.

So thanks to the mental midgets who voted for Obama, we now have to contend with the likes of Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, a plethora of ideologues in the White House, and a number of out of control government agencies. It is Marxism on steroids.

All of this begs the question: who in the hell ever said America needs change?

T Krabby said...

@Sam:

"who in the hell ever said America needs change?"


We sure as hell need it now, don't we? Picking up the lies spewed like garbage in NYC. He's trashed the presidency so badly...we'll never see another like him again.

The American Conservative said...

You have to be either extremely stupid, or a idiotic Liberal for you to send a couple of hundred armed government agents and try to confiscate a rancher’s cattle without contemplating how the rest of the nation will interpret your actions. As someone before me said, this reminds me of that young Cuban boy, Elian González , in Miami Florida when Janet Reno under Bill Clinton’s orders, or was it really Hillary’s orders to send in Troops with Machine Guns to grab a little boy.

There is no way a militia with small arms can defeat the kind of arms the U.S. government can bring to bear on such a battle, but one has to admire the courage of those people who showed up to confront them. That’s quintessentially American!

The amount of land that the federal government owns in Nevada and elsewhere, particularly west of the Mississippi, and expose a regime that wants to intimidate hard working Farmers and generally all Americans with force.
What worries me and many of my blogger friends is the prospect of a renewed effort by the Bureau of Land Management regarding what is essentially a fairly minor dispute between it and Bundy. The Feds grossly mishandled this situation, and here we are today.
This heavily armed "militia" was likely initiated by the White House, with Harry Reid’s blessing.. Sending in two hundred armed government agents on a ranch in Nevada, on behalf of Cliven Bundy, a local small rancher with a long-running property dispute with federal officials just don’t make any sense..
Lets call it like it is, Obama has refused to arrest, or deport illegal’s who are here stealing jobs from Americans. He has even released those arrested by state and local law enforcement agencies and even the dangerous Muslims who were sent to Gitmo, and are now back on the battle field killing Americans once again.
But American ranchers who "threaten" tortoises?
Personally I think it's a land grab intended to make big bucks for Senator Harry Reid and his son by allowing a Chinese company to strip mine the land, all under cover of protecting the tortoise. The tortoise of course will be destroyed, that's what Liberals do, the opposite of what they claim to be doing. because his Son has become involved in a deal with a Chinese company that wants to build some sort of solar or wind farm, or some other ridicules piece of crap on this particular location...I suspect that a lot of Americans and most certainly those who live in the area are going to remember the Bundy face-off with the Government come the November midterm elections.. And trust me, this is small potatoes compared to what's happening in Washington right now. Lord Help Us .

Anonymous said...

"There is no way a militia with small arms can defeat the kind of arms the U.S. government can bring to bear on such a battle.."


It was done once long ago. And I'd say many, many Americans are better armed then the average citizen fighter was back then. Not all feds or LEO's or even soldiers would dare take up arms against their fellow citizens.

If ordered to...there will be a mutiny.

Frida Van der Wiener said...


Why do libs ( pardon me, I mean to say “The Libaturds) always have to take the opposite opinion on all controversial topics?

I lay all of this at the feet of Obama, Reid. and Holder!

Didn’t they learn ANYTHING from Ruby Ridge and Waco?

Baysider said...

It's so close between 1 and 5. The rest are extremities of bullying and neglect but not constitutional issues.

Fast & Furious - smells to high heaven, should have Holder fired and give him a lot of blood to answer for on judgment day. Just not a constitutional issue.

Benghazi - ugly, ugly, ugly. Worth heads rolling. But not a con issue.

IRS - Chicago style bullying and intimidation writ national. About as ugly as it gets. Laws broken? Looks like it. But not a con issue.

NSA and its un-warranted access to signals intelligence on steroids dances around the edge of the 4th amendment. I say 'dancing' because of such strong precedent that it's not considered a search because you have released that info already to 3rd party providers. Federal judge Richard Leon has called it an 'indiscriminate' and 'arbitrary' invasion. Can a case be made to surmount Smith v. Maryland? People are working on that one and Judge Leon provided an opening.

There's more wrong with ACA than not reading it before it passed. For sure, Obama lied. Pelosi lied. etc. But it wasn't even passed in a legal manner. And if Obama's true dictatorial bent wasn't clear before, this crystallizes the picture of an executive out of control, totally usurping the powers given only to another branch of government. Sure, there have been many questionable executive orders. This is a blatant, in-your-face grab of constitutional powers not given to the executive.

So I'll declare #5 ACA the winner for doing what king George's armies could not. But we're all losers here.

Z said...

Rita....I believe the IRS is the worst, too.
Mostly because it's so HUGELY against what America believed in. We don't pick on people who don't agree with an administration, not to this extent, anyway.
Well, we do now.

AOW...I agree about their not having read the bill. That is malpractice. And we've got Nancy Pelosi lauding it!

No, it does not say in the Constitution "nobody in the IRS can hurt conservatives more than liberals"...I'll grant you that, folks.
But nowhere in the Constitution does it advise it, either. And, of course, it says it between every line, doesn't it.

Ducky's comment reflects what happens when people don't understand the Constitution .... it never says "separation of church and state," either. But, he's all FOR THAT :-)
And let the Libs hear "the pursuit of happiness" and they read that to mean free contraception! I'm right. Think about it.

Rottweiler I believe the top percentage of wage earners contribute more like 75% of all taxes?

Ed....they still think Hillary did a good job, so we can't be too hard on them; they literally DO NOT KNOW. They don't get this information!
And yes, brother, he is lying, and they'd elect him again if they could. Lying's okay as long as we have a free cell phone, I guess.

Breakout and Remember Ben Gazi; I wept when he was nominated for the joy I saw in the tears on young black faces at the DNC convention when it was announced....I could SO understand their happiness and hoped I might be wrong about him.
Sadly, we were all too right about him. WHat a horrible administration; so much lying, so MUCH betrayal, so much obfuscation.

Frida..thanks. ANd sorry for your treatment at some lib blog; I'm surprised they let you comment, most don't

Mustang...I wonder if a legal lien had been filed, which should have been done instead of what happened, if Bundy would have just thrown it away, too?
I believe the Feds did a TERRIBLE JOB there...
What would you have done were you a BLM person? Just let it all continue forever? I'm on your side, but am curious about that.

Krabby; There is no way Lois Lerner's going to get out of this unscathed; more emails came up yesterday which clearly damn her actions.

Sam, thanks for that. I still think the IRS encompasses spying, lying, cheating...all of it. But you're right; the NSA is awful.
I'm glad I'm not living in Europe anymore (only for this ONE REASON, I assure you) because I'd hate to be reading what they're saying there. My God.
And so deservedly. It's such a shame on all of us that this is all going on and we're allowing it to happen.

FrogBurger; that's the one thing that's crystal clear; how much more invasive the American government has become since Obama and HOLDER. It's astonishing.
I disagree totally on the Constitution ; freedom is everywhere in that document...free people are not spied on, not lied to with a complicit media, free people aren't killed without everything having been done to protect them, free people are not indicted for their political beliefs.

No, it doesn't say those particular things (NSA, IRS) but it's there in the Constitution.
Odd that there are Constitutional phrases the left WILL grab and twist to their ideology and ignore the most basic tenet; FREEDOM, though, isn't it.





Z said...

Baysider; couldn't disagree with you more on the Constitutional issues.

But I am sorry I worded my post like that...should have left the CONSTITUTION out of it and focused on the malevolence of all of the issues and just stuck with ETHICS; though I DO believe the constitution provides Americans freedom and, in every one of those items, freedom's been accosted.
The Bible doesn't say "thou shalt not abort," either, but it's between every line, isn't it. LIFE..>FREEDOM...they're there.

Baysider said...

Z: we're definitely in a rare disagreement then vis a vis the constitution. If you're talking ethics and malevolence then it's IRS hands down. Even though it has a lot of competition.

The Truth will set US free! said...

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark., and something smells rotten in the Nevada desert and all over an Old Man’s Ranch. We’ve seen this sort of thing before, with armed troops with assault rifles, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops to seize a local Nevada rancher’s property. And believe me, Dingy Harry Reid’ along with Harry and Junior’s fingerprints all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege.

Z said...

Baysider; do you see my point about the Bible and Abortion? I believe it's the same kind of thing.
It's like "separation of church and state" is certainly NOT in the Constitution, but many interpret it to be there.
I interpret the Constitution says that because FREEDOM is so important, that all of these issues are Constitutional issues.
But, yes...there is nowhere where it says THE IRS CAN'T BULLY PEOPLE.

I'll bet you will agree that SCANDAL has not been mentioned in conjunction with an administration maybe ever, maybe even when Clinton was found having 'had sex with that woman' after all!
Even the leftist news sometimes uses the word SCANDAL.

WHEN will they wake up that Americans don't like SCANDALS in our gov't?!??

Z said...

The Truth:
I SO HOPE that Reid FINALLY has some of what I hear from Nevadans revealed. Why would his SON weigh in on the Bundy Ranch situation?.which he did.

My prediction is that Reid will suddenly back off now that he blustered and threw his weight around .... he showed he's against the freedom of Bundy and now will back off quietly so no SCANDAL reflects back on his possible business dealings which are being discussed today.

Frida Van der Wiener said...

Z said:
"Frida..thanks. ANd sorry for your treatment at some lib blog; I'm surprised they let you comment, most don't"

Guess what Z, Show me a Liberal, or in this case a Progressive, or a Communist, Democrat, Fascist,or Socialist, and I'll show you someone with no brains. For my part, thay all come from the same mold. A bunch of idiots acting like a bunch of fascist brown shirts running around trying to change the world and take away people's freedoms, freedom of choice, freedom of speech and the right to do what they please. Do you hear that Michelle Obama, who is basically doing the same thing with our lives and with our children.

The Truth will set US free! said...

Because Harry Reid and his son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” wrote Reuters journalist Marcus Stern. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada!

Baysider said...

Z, I do see you your point. One of the beauties of the constitution is that it doesn't try to spell out every nitpick (in contrast to say, South Africa's bloated document) and is generally held as a structure upon which to uphold liberty and protect negative rights (like freedom of speech and worship).

I think what you're talking about is more ethics, like you stated: the idea that just because the constitution doesn't forbid it doesn't mean I can do it. Especially when the 'it' runs contrary to the whole theme of liberty and rights ... and laws are being broken, no less!

For Pete's sake, Obama has called for an end run around posse comitatus by militarizing the police forces, and every other government agency other than the army. Not a technical violation of the PC act, but a dictatorial manipulation to achieve the same end.

Our government was structured to make it harder for liars, cheaters and dictators to corral the reins of power. But it was "made only for a moral and religious people" (John Adams) who have the inner gyroscope to make that work.

Right-Winger said...

As with most progressives and libaturds, just follow the money and you will see what they are really up too. Harry Reid should have been put in jail a long time ago, along with his Comrade Nancy Pelosi.
I cannot even imagine what it must be like for As with most progressives and libaturds, just follow the money and you will see what they are really up too. Harry Reid should have been put in jail a long time ago, along with his Comrade Nancy Pelosi.
I cannot even imagine what it must be like for a politician to devote his entire life to hating the opposing party.to devote his entire life to hating the opposing party.

Jarhead said...

It’s time to drop the charade, Tonto is really Elizabeth Warren

Breitbart reported:
Despite an avalanche of irrefutable evidence that demonstrates beyond any doubt that Elizabeth Warren has no proof to back up her phony claims of Native American ancestry, the embattled Massachusetts Senate candidate doubled down and repeated her heritage lie on CNN today.

How can anyone take this crackpot seriously?

Mustang said...

@ Jarhead

Do you mean Warren, or Obama?

T Krabby said...

@JarHead:

"candidate doubled down and repeated her heritage lie on CNN today."

She's in too damn deep to back out now. Perhaps she might be liable for a lawsuit for fraud?

But..thats why people in the know call her... Lie-awatha and Puke-ahontis.

Z said...

Krabby...I'd never heard those terms...pretty funny.

Wasn't her Native American heritage totally DEBUNKED? Surely she'd still not be saying this if it had been???

Mustang; Bingo! :-)

Bayside....George Washington said the same thing, basically, as Adams did. What amazing men.

I truly don't believe a dream like American can exist as a secular state.
And we're seeing the horrible fruits of that statement today, aren't we....and it's only getting worse.
The American dream depended on good people, caring people who put God first and America right up there...people who'd feel ASHAMED to do so MANY things we honor today ...SO many things we could all list.

Our kids are hurting, lost and today we're hearing that one team can't pray anymore because the atheists don't like it. Imagine?

we are very lost. We're turning into every stinking country from which its survivors came for OUR DREAM. If you talk to Eastern Europeans who escaped Hungary, Romania, etc., you'll hear the same thing: What HAPPENED?

Z said...

I hope you're all listening to Obama right now...
the Republicans "were wrong about THAT and THAT and THAT"

"We can agree that it's well past time to MOVE ON..."

Poor Obama....as my insurance agent of 35 years in the business said recently "Wait till people under the ACA start getting sick...then we'll all wake up"

WHY does this president show such thin skinnedness? It's positively EMBARRASSING to us all as a country.

I can hear in his voice he's nervous about questions; it's more clip and 'jive'in' a bit more than usual. I can't take it.
Turn it OFF, Z.

Z said...

Obama just said "I understand that THEIR PARTY is going through grief and denial" that the ACA is going so well... and that maybe someday they'll agree to work on it.
EIGHT million are now insured...and now he's listening individual stories when it's HIS PARTY that gets so upset when OUR PARTY mentions those who are SCREWED by the ACA.

go figure. I guess it's just GRIEF and DENIAL.
WHat a hideous low thing for a president to say. how typical

Z said...

"Republicans just want to talk the next six months about repealing...WE want to talk about JOBS..etc"

I guess we're supposed to just buy everything he wants and SHUT UP?

I had to turn it off. We're apparently to blame for MILLIONS not getting health care that wouldn't 'cost them a dime...not one dime'.
is he really THAT CLUELESS?

CnC said...

Z, I have to agree with little sis, Rita. The IRS got Al Capone when no law agency could. They have put the hammer down on many folks that were thought untouchable. When the IRS got in the hands of Chicago Politics incarnate they were the most insidious treacherous political muscle a crooked politician could ever hope for. I do give the DOJ runner up, I mean they have the word Justice in their name for Gods sake. They are suppose to be the torchbearer for righting wrongs in this country not facilitating criminal behavior. Oh, honorable mention goes to the EPA, or should that be dishonorable?
I gotta go, I'm starting to turn this into a blog here.

Anonymous said...

Z, the American Constitution isn't very specific on what the President can and can't do. His job is to "faithfully execute" the laws. Now the keyword is "faithfully."

There's been overreach by many presidents from what I've heard. Wasn't Roosevelt interning Japanese an overreach as well for example?

So my point was that many presidents don't respect the Constitution if by "faithfully" we mean strictly applying the law as it was written.

FrogBurger

Duckys here said...

Well, Frog, that's a good observation.
Many Americans don't realize that it's a little vague because there was a lot of disagreement and just assume there was a near unanimity of opinion.

Duckys here said...

@z --- Ducky's comment reflects what happens when people don't understand the Constitution .... it never says "separation of church and state," either. But, he's all FOR THAT :-)

---
Oh my, I made the Bad Boy list again. It's too easy.

Well z, the courts decided that you can't indoctrinate little kids by forcing them to recite a prayer in school. That's how the process works. You lost that one.
So does this mean your comments represent a misunderstanding of the judicial process and the role of the judiciary?

Duckys here said...

Why is it unconstitutional for the IRS to determine whether or not an organization qualifies for tax exempt status?

Seems like an obvious basic function.

Frida Van der Wiener said...

Elizabeth Warren is delusional, just like the liberals that sent her to Washington in the first place.
To think, these are the idiots who also think she´s qualified to be President.

Liberalmann said...

I say lets investigate Benghazi and the run up to the invasion of Iraq and see who get's convicted. Buh-Bye Bush.

Patriot1212 said...

Well, the Mooch is at it again!!
While the President spends six years whining about racism, discrimination, and blasting Republicans for criticizing his Affordable Care Act in a speech that was even more obnoxious and disgusting, than usual..
́́The Daily Mail estimated the cost of Michelle Obama’s two-day trip to Ireland, in addition to flight and security costs obtained by Judicial Watch, at around $5 million.́́

Documents from the Department of Homeland Security obtained by the government watchdog via the January 13, 2014 lawsuit further revealed that the total cost for “security and/or other services” for a side trip to Dublin by Michelle Obama and her entourage was $251,161.86. That total included $55,004.85 spent at the Shelbourne Hotel and $70,855.44 at the Westbury Hotel.

The documents reveal that taxpayers spent a total of at least $7,921,638.66 on the first lady’s trip. She departed for the Dublin tour on Air Force Two after accompanying the president on a meeting with Northern Ireland youth.

The most recent travel revelation comes on the heels of a release of additional documents revealing the $1,164,268.60 in flight expenses for the first family’s vacation to Martha’s Vineyard in 2013, the $8,104,224 in flight expenses for their 2013 official trip to Africa and $7,781,361.30 for their 2013-2014 Christmas vacation to Honolulu.

And those lefties are bitching and whinnying about the Koch brothers!

charlituna said...

Take a look at Allen West’s five remaining UNANSWERED questions below:

• When the message came that the consulate was under attack, why were all immediate resources not allocated? As a former career Soldier who sat on the House Armed Services Committee, I am well aware of security protocols. Why weren’t they followed?

• Where was President Obama the evening of the attack? We were treated to all the White House situation room pictures of the raid on Osama bin Laden — but where are the photos from that night?

• According to the president, he ordered Secretary of Defense Panetta and CJCS General Dempsey to get the Americans in Benghazi the support they needed. If true, then who disobeyed the president’s order, and why did Obama never follow up with Panetta and Dempsey?

• Who came up with the video scapegoat excuse, and why was the U.N. ambassador called out for the Sunday shows and not the person responsible, the secretary of state?

• Ambassador Stevens had met with a Turkish representative in Benghazi, but why were his requests for additional security denied, and by whom?


And my Unanswered question is: Why is Obama still president of the United States? But, at this point, what difference does it make?

T Krabby said...

duck:

NB:

"Meanwhile, a new wrinkle in the IRS scandal involving the targeting of Tea Party groups.

The activist group Judicial Watch has released e-mails that show the agency in talks with the Justice Department to investigate some tax exempt organizations for "possible fraud".

The new documents show just how close the government came to criminal investigations before the IRS targeting became public knowledge.


Let's see...the threat of criminal prosecutions, or the threat of, immediately before an election, to deny groups their 1st and 4th amendment rights, perhaps?

The use of intimidation, bogus law suits by the IRS to stifle political action and participation in the process of voting?

Seems to me you'd be very happy living under a tyrannical, corrupt dictatorship with the IRS assuming the role of the Gestapo.

Baysider said...

I think it's pretty well established at this point that Separation of Church and State is from a private letter of Thomas Jefferson in which he amplifies on protecting the church from the state. These founders, TJ included, emphasized how important religion was to public morality even to the point of being keen to make sure every town had a church - just not a government designated one. They saw churches in general and as a rule as essential to the development of the public mores that strengthen society and our republican form of government.

If that were still the prevailing attitude who could doubt Z would have much reason for this post today?

No era is without its 'bad boys' and 'religion' doesn't guarantee angels. Still, there is a huge difference between a few bad eggs and having it bred into the culture's DNA. This is what happens when you remove the internal gyroscope of moral rectitude as a norm.

Ed Bonderenka said...

Duck:
"Why is it unconstitutional for the IRS to determine whether or not an organization qualifies for tax exempt status?"
Because unequally applied, it wrongly interferes with the First Amendment, Free Speech.
If one political side is obviously denied the access to resources that it's opposition is allowed, then that denial of ability to accept tax free donations from supporters infringes on the right of those donors to express their political beliefs.
It doesn't fully deny them that that ability but restrains it.
Therefore it affects the constitutionality of the IRS activity.
There.
Was that simple enough?

Duckys here said...

Take a look at Allen West’s five remaining UNANSWERED questions below:

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Better yet, take a look at one question to West:

Allen, you found yourself behind in the polls in your district so you faked a move to another district you thought better gerrymandered and still got your butt kicked.
Given that you can't even win in gerrymandered Republican districts why haven't you just gone to the track to play the ponies and spared us?

Duckys here said...

@Ed --- Because unequally applied
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Not according to the evidence.

A very small unit was suddenly faced with a pile of verifications due to campaign groups trying to pull a fast one and they used the best set of filters they could think of to find likely offenders. The filters were not strictly right wing.
Sorry, this one has faded away and is strictly kabuki.

Duckys here said...

@Krabby -- The activist group Judicial Watch has released e-mails that show the agency in talks with the Justice Department to investigate some tax exempt organizations for "possible fraud".

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Right wing organizations are not capable of fraud?

Are you watching your dosage?

T Krabby said...

Duck:

Yes, We poor people get a dose of you everyday....are you still drinking Drano?

Z said...

FrogBurger...not sure where we disagree on that.

Ducky, you are kidding, right?
You honestly don't KNOW the IRS situation's facts or it's just running for cover again?

And for a leftwinger to talk about indoctrination as a BAD thing made me smile; you and yours are doing it every single day in our schools and you've got the nerve to suggest prayer in schools is indoctrination?
I didn't "lose that one." America lost that one.

GOOD one on the way you ignored West's excellent questions and slammed him instead! Yes, you are definitely a liberal:-)

Baysider; you and most of US think it's "well established" but we hear "separation of church and state in the Constitution" ALL the time on the news, etc.
People honestly DO think it's in there.

Clemson U is now under fire from an atheist group; PRAYING? WITH THEIR COACH? He's PUSHING RELIGION ON THEM? Uh...no, no complaints in the six years he's been there, and no pushing of Christianity, but the atheists must be on the prowl.
Got to GET THOSE KIDS TO STOP THAT DISGUSTING HABIT OF PRAYING, huh? :-)

Baysider said...

Yes, I've heard dummies claim 'church and state' is in the constitution, too.

Well, despite the ignorami in the news rooms, facts is facts. It ain't. But the framework to keep government out of specific churches is. Hooray!

Z said...

Hooray! is right, Bayside!

Kid said...

You can't pick one.
Everything is either a Lie, a Scam, or just plain BS that comes out of the entire political body.

Every once in a while the pols crack a window and toss out a fairy tale for the libtards so they can go back to sleep

Kid said...

Privacy was out the window when the world went from analog to digital. fwiw.

TS/WS said...

The Bundy Ranch affair is all about cow farts---climate change--don't chaknow.
And Z you forgot about the BLACK ROBES.
Today the courts ruled that (HEY MUSTANG) as a health and wellbeing check up;
APARTMENTS AND CONDO'S can be raided WITHOUT A WARRANT!!!!!

Z said...

TSWS...that's ridiculous

"courts ruled?" Which court and why?

Duckys here said...

Speaking of the Bundy grazing matter, who issued executive order 12548 to extend federal grazing fee indefinitely?

Hint: Initials RR.

Always On Watch said...

Baysider said:

For Pete's sake, Obama has called for an end run around posse comitatus by militarizing the police forces, and every other government agency other than the army. Not a technical violation of the PC act, but a dictatorial manipulation to achieve the same end.

That's an important point, IMO.

I keep thinking of "First they came..."

Always On Watch said...

Z,
I hope you're all listening to Obama right now...
the Republicans "were wrong about THAT and THAT and THAT"


I couldn't listen to much of that one. My blood pressure cannot afford that kind of assault.

Moonbat Spanker said...

Harry Reid gets the honor and the title of being the sleaziest most corrupt politician in Washington. since Ted Kennedy died!!
For Harry Reid to have the nerve to show himself after America saw all the good people drive out violent government forces, is a perfect example of his power crazed, out of control, desperate frame of sick mind.,

p47koji said...

Our elected king and FDR are neck and neck with scandals and lies... but both are revered as heroes by the blinded.

Z said...

Ducky, Reagan did, of course...so what? Do you expect people to be allowed to graze for free?
Man, you socialists...

AOW, did I ever tell you that Niemuller's grandson is an amazing tenor sax jazz player? I've met him several times here in the US with his piano-colleague...they do mostly religious music with a jazz twist...just wonderful stuff.

Z said...

Moonbat, I was thinking last night that Reid is one of THE most despicable people I've ever heard; the lies, the name calling; the horrendous things he's doing.
If Democrats could allow themselves, they'd see it and protest. But, of course....

Ya, The Tea Party is "terrorists" but let's not call the Ft Hood killer a terrorist, right? Thanks, Harry Reid....

p47; so many people still revere FDR. That's one of the best lies in American history.
He wasn't ALL bad, and had a charming personality, but he sure gets credit for a lot of things he SCREWED UP!

Liberalmann said...

Right, the teabaggers put the women and children out front so they could scream if they were hit. The also had snipers taking aim. Fox News eggs them on. They're all traitors.

Z said...

Libjerk/ except that didn't happen. You REALLY think people would put innocent folks in front of them?
You're one very sick puppy.
I'm so sorry.
And, if you use 'teabagger' once more in any comment, you're gone.
Thanks!

Rita said...

LibBoy. It's a real shame about that severe brain damage you suffered when your mother dropped you on your head.

Liberalmann said...

TRUTH: Did Bundy Ranch Protesters Put Women Between

“We were actually strategizing to put all the women up at the front,” he ... formation of women and children in the front line actually took place."

http://benswann.com/truth-did-bundy-ranch-protesters-put-women-between-themselves-and-armed-federal-agents/

Former sheriff willing to let wife, daughters die on front lines of Bundy ranch:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/15/former-sheriff-willing-let-wife-daughter-die-front/

Rita said...

Ok Libkid. I'll give you that one.

That idiot interviewed is a first class psycho. Using women and children as a shield is a weapon of cowards. He's a disgusting pig.

No one here would possible defend him.

Z said...

libjerk, as I said before, you REALLY think most people would condone THAT?

My gosh, that's like condoning that idiot Harry Reid calling these people terrorists, but NOT the guy who KILLED AMERICAN SOLDIERS at Ft Hood.
THAT is bad....THAT is REALLY BAD.

that's your guy. You agree with him? :-)
Uhoh...come to think of it, you ARE that stupidly ideological, so...maybe that was a bad choice.
I can never absorb the fact that people like you are SO America-hating.

Rita...good one

Liberalmann said...

You keep dwelling...er deflecting to this but who said the Ft. Hood shooter was not a domestic terrorist?

TS/WS said...

Obama

Z said...

It was ruled that what he did was WORKPLACE VIOLENCE, officially.

What a horrid bunch in the White House.

Everybody notice that, AGAIN, Obama pulled his BS Friday night fuN!? Yup...he announced a bill that keeps the Iranian kidnapper from coming into the UN as an ambassador BUT says HE CAN IGNORE THIS BILL that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN VOTED FOR.

Yes, Obama does these things Friday nights while the media's busy and the weekend's slow news.

what a ($&(#$*&#$(*#$

oh, by the way, everyone; Bundy was calling for peace, telling his supporters to leave guns at home, and Reid calls HIM a terrorist and liberaljerk condemns him because one NUT talked about putting women between him and the Fed's overkill amount of guns.
the fun never stops with hypocritical, horrid liberals, does it.

Z said...

by the way; I hope you all remember Obama slamming Bush for supposedly not going by laws, picking and choosing....he'd never do THAT :-)

that's about all he HAS done. Horribly sad.


Z said...

I'm hearing more about the Cliven Bundy ranch situation and it is SO SAD that the Left is condemning him as they are; I think the name calling by Reid and others is a deflection from what the feds did.
200 of them with assault weapons descending on a guy, taking his cattle....

I can really see why liberal people who don't know the facts are jumping on Reid's bandwagon. It's all false, except I absolutely agree Bundy broke the law.... everything else is wrong and he's been willing to come to an agreement that the BLM hasn't been amenable to.

The Feds have started to go way beyond what we're used to in AMERICA ...remember Gibson Guitars? They came in with assault weapons, camouflage on, etc....over supposedly bringing in an illegal WOOD to make GUITARS? Of course, the owner of Gibson is a conservative who gives money to Conservative causes...and, of course, the whole case was dropped because they were wrong, but what if the feds had killed someone?

is it going to take THAT before they finally go back to their normal behavior they had before HOlder's militarizing them?
how AWFUL. I hope not.

Anonymous said...

At the risk of getting deleted, I'll say this: you're all welcome to come by my blog site Liberalmann Is A Dingbat and vent any frustrations you get when Liberalmann spews his garbage at you. I've nicknamed him Pookie Toot-Toot, and it irritates him to the core.

Now, about the Bundy Ranch debacle: I look forward to seeing it shoot down the political careers of Hairy Reid and his son Rory. What they instigated is beyond vile. Their hairbrained scheme they hatched with an extremely thin disguise has angered the Nevada residents to the point where the father and son team will likely get a political tar and feather mob worked up enough to get them thrown out in a flash.

mystere's moonbat slayer club said...

Okay, something went wrong on my settings, so I will take responsibility for the above "anonymous" comment.

mystere's moonbat slayer club said...

Z,

Since I slipped and accidentally posted anonymously, I'll repeat this: if any of you are frustrated and irritated with Lester "Pookie Toot-Toot" Liberalmann's retorts, feel free to stop by Liberalmann Is A Dingbat and vent on any of the posts.

About banning Lester Liberalmann: he's known to jump, stalk and troll blogs. If you ban him Z, he won't be missed. I'm one of his biggest blog enemies.

Now, one more thing about the Pappy and sonny political liberal machine running Nevada down: when the Reids get their rotten carcasses kicked out of office, it'll be worth celebrating.

Rita said...

Libjerk

You're a pig.

Liberalmann said...

Notice 'Liberalmann' is not blue?That would be 'Mystere' who regularly posts in my name. Like I said, he's a child. He actually made a site about me with images of monkeys crapping.

Rita said...

Left wing Sybil is back.

Z said...

mystere, thanks but I don't even open his links here and I don't want to spend a second more than I have to deleting more of his ridiculous stuff. But, good luck with that!

Liberalmann said...

Rattrapper is also Mystere.

https://www.blogger.com/profile/09848063025913868226

Rita said...

Isn't it time for both of you boys to head back home. Your mothers are calling.

Kid said...

rattrapper. I don't think many people look at libgirl as anything but a stupid oddity that flies by from time to time. Why are you trying to make this joke into something more ?
If you're obsessed with the creature, how about go and battle it on it's blog and leave the rest of us alone. We don't care. Truly.

Rita said...

Amen Kid.

Z said...

I just deleted a couple of comments and now I'm closing this down.
Rita and Kid are right.

GO HOME, little people who resort to this silly fighting.
Libjerk isn't worth the effort, anyway.