Do you think paying immigrants to GO HOME could work here? The Japanese are offering cash to leave and the immigrant can never return, nor can their children.There are interesting points to this policy you'll want to read before jumping to conclusions. It seems that the people are more upset about the fact that they can't return than they are about leaving. But, "Spain, with a unemployment rate of 15.5 percent, has adopted a similar program, but immigrants are allowed to reclaim their residency and work visas after three years." All sorts of ways to go here.......? (of course, the way illustrated in the cartoon is the best...!)
Check this out: Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that California's illegal immigrant population is costing the state's taxpayers more than $10.5 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to nearly $9 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden from those three areas of state expenditures amounts to about $1,183 per household headed by a native-born resident.
More from the Japan article: "But Mr. Kawasaki said the economic slump was a good opportunity to overhaul Japan’s immigration policy as a whole."
Maybe we need to rethink ours, too. Just wondered what you all thought...........
z
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I believe the workers are there legally in the case of Japan and Spain.
I don't see any reason to pay an illegal to leave. You'd have a mob at the borders trying to get in so that they can be paid to be thrown out and come back it.
Right, Ducky, good point; they are there legally. I'm glad you reminded us of that because it is an important distinction.
Also, it's a good point that they could line up to come in just to be paid to go...Man, I hate you to make sense :-)
If we had better border control, maybe that can be got around....I'd like to think so, but we all know what the borders are like..still.
Mr. Z tells me Germany tried this in the 1970's..they'd enticed people to come to work in the Sixties and, during the oil crisis the economy went down so the enticement was to go back. VERY few took them up on it.
STill, with the amount we pay just in California for illegals, you'd think there was some cheaper way. Heck, buses back to Central America would be cheaper!!
Ducky; don't make sense again. I'll have to censor you. You have a reputation to uphold. :-)
z, I do not believe this problem can be solved except at the employment level.
There have to be penalties for hiring workers illegally. Social Security numbers are on line. It takes nothing to check an SSN so there isn't much of a burden on business and if they are hiring folks with invalid numbers then they can't say they didn't know.
Ducky, I warned you. Make sense ONE MORE TIME.....
:-)
you're right. The first line of defense HAS to be EMPLOYERS. I absolutely agree.
Also, if we could just stop the MX laborers from going to construction boss's homes and threatening them with guns if they don't hire the MX crews.
In answer to your question. My Mom is at home recovering. My sister is with her all is going well, just difficult to have both Mom and Dad recovering from surgery at the same time. I am so thankful my sis is there. She updated in detail at her blog. http://anitalottahelp.blogspot.com/
Thanks, JM..good to hear. I appreciate your coming by..xx
" $10.5 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration"
I wonder how much the legals in California are costing.
I'm not so harsh on the illegals who are here and working. They get jobs because they are better at them than others, and as such they work to help build America. It's the ones who come here and loaf and commit crimes (serious ones, unlike jaywalking and working) that get in my craw.
Dmarks..I have to admit I've had some very very sweet experiences with nonlegal and legal Mexicans alike (and Hondurans, Guatemalans, too..I use MX as a kind of 'hold all' which is probably not fair. Some say the Salvadorans are the hardest workers, for example)
And, I'll say that EVERY legal Mexican I personally know is a registered Republican. BUT, I resent the ILLEGALS SO SO much. And they have to be stopped...just thought this was ONE idea that could help!?
Some of the most anti-illegal folks I have met have been Mexican-Americans (born in the US)
d..good point
That's why they're conservatives!
"I don't see any reason to pay an illegal to leave. You'd have a mob at the borders trying to get in so that they can be paid to be thrown out and come back it."
Well well, a red letter day. I agree with Ducky. My sentiments exactly.
Z, as far as I can tell we don't have an immigration policy. We may on paper, but we might as well line our birdcage with it for all the good it does.
If we aren't willing to enforce our current laws, more laws are useless.
Pris
I'll leave this Obamanation if they pay me enough.
Let's see...I agreed with Ducky that the banking system is a government-sponsored Ponzai scheme. He and I are both against trying to prop up the auto industry by paying for the destruction of cars. We agree that paying illegal aliens to leave would encourage more illegals to come here....
Ducky, shall we run on a ticket together?
Actually, I haven't quite figured out Ducky on immigration. He usually takes the liberal position, but he derides Reagan for taking (what I consider to be) a liberal position on immigration in granting amnesty. Where stand you, running mate?
Japan's got some interesting demographics to deal with in the future. Their population is not sustaining itself. Will they look to immigration to maintain population the way Europe has?
What is my point in bringing up the dwindling populations of Japan and Europe? Simple. To try to impress you with the information I picked up in reading half the introduction to Mark Steyn's book while in the book store.
tio bowser
Japan is a funny country, they've given the world a lot of good gadgetry, but in some regards they're very stupid. Their population is shrinking, the population of elderly is growing and they're not having any babies. They're committing suicide as a nation and here they are trying to get rid of people who are there legally.
And yeah, it's amazing to see quacky talking a bit of sense, a temporary spike in he medication perhaps.
napolitano says that being here illegally is a civil matter and not a crime. well, not so much - but if that is the pervading sentimate in the current administration, what chance do we have to really combat it?
I think Napolitano looks at the illegal situation as if they deserve to be here as America's just one big melting pot....sadly, this makes us one big dirty doormat instead.
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