Sunday, June 15, 2008

VOX POPULI....The Voice of the People



BRAVO, IRELAND! A short primer on the EU, if you're interested.........and an explanation for the applause to Ireland:


What is today the EUROPEAN UNION started out in the 1950’s as an economic association of six initial countries (France, Germany, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands and Luxemburg) which then became the European Economic Community (EEC). The objective was to foster economic cooperation between the partner countries by omitting import and export taxes. New countries joined the EEC and financial support for “poorer countries” by the “richer countries” was added to make this community a very beneficial association in that the domestic market became substantially larger than just that of each individual country. So far so good. It should have stopped there. But then, the EEC started to establish its own regulations and laws with the intent to grow into a full blown political union.

Two things started to happen: (1) The administrative apparatus grew completely out of proportion, and (2) an understanding by the bureaucrats in Brussels and the European parliament in Strasburg cemented into the working documents for the EU the fact that European laws and regulations trump national laws and regulations. The results have been (almost) unavoidable: The huge cost of this apparatus, huge inefficiencies (the jobs are staffed pro rata and not according to qualification, and in addition, it is a charity with veteran politicians who are “promoted” out of their own country), and almost complete loss of sovereignty for the individual countries.

The mountain of regulations from Brussels in all detailed aspects of life has become overwhelming in the EU. It cannot be that the bureaucrats in Brussels have the right to tell Bavarian beer brewers that they have no right to respect the “Reinheitsgebot”, a hundreds of years old Bavarian regulation forbidding other than natural substances in beer. It can also not be that a party losing a caseint the German Supreme Court then goes to a European court and they overrule the German court. It should also not happen that bureaucrats tell the German politicians how to handle the immigrant question. These are only three small examples of how the EU has invaded every little detail of the life of the people in the European Nations. And many of these things cannot be explained away anymore under the headline “For the common good”.
Several attempts have been made to establish a constitution for the community which, in the meantime, is called the European Union (EU). Attempts were made to hide the constitution from the individual inhabitants of the countries and to execute the approval process without asking the people. However, several countries put the constitution up for public vote. Three years ago, the people of France and the Netherlands voted against the constitution mainly for the reasons cited above; too much bureaucracy, too much influence on the daily life of individuals, and inefficiency against illegal immigration and the terror threat. The politicians of the EU member countries came up with a modified version (the “Lisbon” version), which got mostly ratified by the parliaments of the member countries as the people were not asked. However, Ireland’s constitution requires a public referendum. This referendum took place on 6/12/08, and the Irish people voted against it.

The official reaction ran the gamut from consternation to notions that the Irish “could leave the EU, at least temporarily”, and “the Irish are unthankful, because they benefited largely from the EU”. That is true, Ireland was a poor country when it joined the EEC, when the latter was still an Economic Community. What these people don’t say, however, is that the real success for the Irish came when they abandoned socialism and restructured their country to become conservative, with lower taxes and more economic freedom to the people and companies. The EU had nothing to do with that success. Today, Ireland is the second wealthiest country in the EU after Luxemburg.

The vote in Ireland was not against the economic part of the EU, it was against the follow-up process of bureaucratization and top-down regulations by unelected bureaucrats, together with an unsatisfactory security situation in Europe with a flow of illegal immigrants (EU country inhabitants don’t need passports when crossing from one country to another) and criminals into the EU which is completely neglected at the EU level, and which is basically taken out of the hands of the partner countries without replacing it by anything effective.
I am personally glad that the Irish refused the EU constitution. I was strongly for the EEC because of its substantial economic impact through the creation of a large domestic market, but I was critical about further steps because I know how organizations take on lives of their own. When I recognized what the impact of overarching regulations and laws combined with incompetence and inefficiency would be, resulting de facto in the loss of sovereignty, I became vehemently against the EU as a political union. It should have remained what it was: an economic union.

I know I am not alone in my opinion. I read an article in Die WELT very recently speculating about the result; I had never seen so many readers’ comments to any article in a German newspaper and, from the sample reading I took, 95%+ of the comments were against the constitution. It turned out that asking the people directly was a very valid reality check and, while I am not of the opinion that every political issue should be held up for a public vote, an issue of such importance as the constitution of the EU should absolutely run through a referendum.

There is hope. Sometimes, democracy still works. A big applause for the Irish, because they gave the European politicians what they deserve: A big slap into the face.


Mr.Z (more details, if desired) UPDATE (thanks for it,Mustang!) THIS is a must read...it'll scare you silly.


19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Mr.Z,
Many years ago I read a book by Zbigniew Brzezinski, entitled "Between Two Ages". Subtitled; "America's Role in the Technetronic Age".

In it he mentions the world being divided up into eleven regions, and I remember the red flag going up in my head. To me, it portended of what was to come, planned by those who saw the world as one huge civilization.

This to me was very alarming, as I realized this meant the ultimate end of nations as we know them. The fact that it was Brzezinski, led me to believe there was a definite plan underfoot, and had already begun, under the radar, so to speak.

It seemed the very powerful in the world were organized and working the machinations necessary to make this happen. When the EU formed I thought, "this is it, the first step in this madness".

I know I must sound like a conspiracy theorist of the first order, however, it is not usually my nature to think that way. I resist it still, yet, I cannot forget what I read all those years ago.

I am sad for Europe, for it is inevitable, given the central power over the nations involved, that sovereignty no longer will belong to those nations. Great cultures will be lost, and the people will be further and further away from the seat of power.

Bureaucracy begets bureaucracy. The people will have no nation to unite around, and will be smaller cogs in an ever expanding wheel.

The ramifications of this are too numerous to go into here, but I will just say, I think it will lead to more chaos, not less, and that it seems impossible for this unwieldy concept to benefit the people.

I think freedom will suffer, just from the sheer weight of a huge and powerful central control of the masses.

Perhaps the Irish, in their wisdom have seen the light in time. Is it possible they can resist this? I hope so.

Thank you for a great, informative article. Please keep us posted.

Pris

MathewK said...

Yeah, good on the Irish, i just hope the rest of the continent wakes up and takes the broom to those parasites in Brussels.

It's a good post Z, the way you described it from the beginning, when you stop and think about the way it evolved, this is socialism and stealing of individual liberty 101. The exact same road is being presented to America via Obambi and co. He is offering free healthcare, welfare, social programs change on the cheap, but not necessarily change for the good.

Obami like the socialists pushing the EU is at your door saying, i'm from the government and i'm here to help, and to do that, i'll just need some more tax from you, a few of your liberties, nothing major, that's all, trust me, i'm here to help.

Learn from the Eurabians America, it's all well and good for even 99% of Europe to oppose the EU but now they have to fight tooth and nail to stop the EU juggernaut. It's the way with these socialists, they're like parasites, they'll never leave willingly.

nanc said...

sooooooooo, when are you going to add mr. z to the sidebar as a contributor?

yes, the irish still have nadz!

excellent post.

*8]

Steve Harkonnen said...

I very much second your previous commenters. Excellent writeup on Ireland and the EU. You were spot on.

MK said something interesting:

"The exact same road is being presented to America via Obambi and co."

Well, you should also add McCain to this as well. He's about as much for the formation of the North American Union as Obama; that's because he is aslo a huge supporter of the UN, CFR and the Tri-Lateral Commission. They're all in favor of NAFTA, etc. I feel that this will dissolve our national security interests.

Matter of fact, most of the other candidates are in favor of the NAU. Even Fred Thompson is a member of the CFR.

This is partly the reason why I am vying for the Constitution Party and Chuck Baldwin. You don't hear about these topics because notice that the media has basically banned it. That's because big media gets paid big money to remain silent about it.

And as for anon's comments, no, you don't sound at all like an alarmist nor a conspiracy theorist....you are talking very much the truth. McCain and big government want us to also believe that McCain is the last hope, and if you don't vote for McCain, you are giving the shoe to Obama. NOT TRUE AT ALL.

Steve Harkonnen said...

PS - I was very surprised to learn that some of my bloggers I've known for a few years are actually buying into this falsehood about "voting for McCain, he's our only chance," etc. I thought most of them would see through this artificial light, but they're all sold on this crazy notion.

Z said...

Steve, we are 'Sold on that' because there IS no other chance. You make us all sound like morons who haven't thought this through and we admire mcCain's every stance!!

You just can't believe you and your Chuck Baldwin have a chance in hell before November! We just won't throw a vote against Obama away. NONE of us loves McCain...NONE of us. But, WE SEE what utter and permanent damage Obama will do.

EVERYONE:

Glad you are all enjoying Mr. Z's articles, he's enjoying contributing and seeing your comments. I think it's interesting to have a European viewpoint and am glad you all seem to think so, too.

Anonymous said...

This work is typical of Mr. Zee . . . well written, insightful, and informative. I agree that Mr. Zee should write more frequently as a Golly Geez contributor. Now it appears that global socialism sans representation is not a new idea. I believe Winston Churchill first coined the term, “The United States of Europe,” in 1948. I do not fault cooperation among the European nations, but let us not forget that each “nation” represents separate languages, distinct culture, peculiar social values, and its own rich history. As an American, whether the Europeans support an EU constitution is no business of mine – except when it represents a new direction in government, the institution of global socialism (which I oppose), and the loss of democratic representation. It is a move toward the peaceful conquest of the European people, and I fear the EU will achieve quietly what Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, or Mussolini could not achieve through force of arms.

Here in America, we are struggling mightily against socialist democrats who believe government knows what is best for us as individuals. Such a notion is a foreign concept – it is not how I define myself as an American. The danger of global socialism, beginning with the EU and such other hair-brained ideas as a North American Union, is that we the people will become dependents upon the good graces of our lofty masters. It is a return to autocracy, where instead of kings and emperors, we have appointed presidents and our only input to the “democratic” process is a local representative within a regional parliament. No thanks.

I suppose it is possible to argue that nationalism created the climate that led us into two world wars, but it is also the mechanism that led freedom-loving people to defeat fascism and communism. I wonder what language the EU will impose upon all Europeans once they have legislated national identity as a capital offense.

Anonymous said...

Well Steve, you say it's NOT TRUE AT ALL, but I currently don't see Chuck Baldwin as a viable candidate in 2008, and therefore I am un-motivated to take any action to support him AT THIS VERY LATE DATE. And so I currently see this 'near' Hobson's choice of Obama OR McCain as "almost" PERFECTLY TRUE.

Sorry, but before your post, I hadn't even heard Baldwin's (unfortunate) name. And as a former Navy man, I can tell you to sometimes you're forced to hold your nose and pick the lesser of two weevils.

But please, work to give us a REAL choice in 2012. I'll be DAMNED if I want to see McCain serve a 2nd term.

Z said...

Mr. Z prefers to contribute as he is, thanks, everyone!
I hope we can get more articles from him! We're both glad you enjoy his insights...He reads the German and French news on the 'net every morning so I'm hoping to focus, thru his writings, on what's going on there as it pertains to us....stay tuned. I know a LOT (I mean a LOT) of conservatives don't give a hoot what Europe thinks but we don't feel that way.

nanc..what's nadz?

mustang, it might only be the problems in the EU which MIGHT wake up Americans to the idiocies of the horrid North America Union thing...BUT, we still haven't noticed Europe's FINALLY waking up to how Socialism hasn't worked as we head directly in that direction, so I don't have much hope.

Steve Harkonnen said...

Z,

Although Baldwin does not have a chance, votes for him will help to strengthen the position of the Constitution Party. It's already been determined who will be our next president.

As for McCain/Obama...of course, I would prefer McCain. I just will not vote for him, as I do not believe that if I don't vote for him, Obama will win. He won't. It's just not in America's cards to have a black president this time around. Trust me, the powers to be will have McCain as our next president, and you will see a stepping up on NAU policies and also strong backing for the UN.

If I knew that me voting for Baldwin would give Obama an edge, I wouldn't vote at all.

My statement on bloggers was not meant to ridicule anyone; but the truth must be at least told. A lot of bloggers have bought into the McCain theory; there is nothing but truth in my statement.

If I wanted reform in the Republican Party, then Obama would have my vote because that would send a powerful message to the party that I once admired. However, I've given up on all hope on the Republicans/GOP, and the idea of Neo-conservatism as a whole. I am more of a Paleo-conservative than anything else.

One blogger has it dead on. He often says something to the effect of "president McCain, get used to saying it" because we already know he's going to get elected.

Steve Harkonnen said...

...and let me further add a compliment to Mr. Z's writing - full of passion and a complete understanding of the topic at hand, without the desire to just cut and paste. I read the entire thing through, something I don't do all of the time.

Steve Harkonnen said...

FJ -

At the very least, please read up on Chuck Baldwin - and then come back to tell me what you think. I know it's late in the game; you're right about that one.

I actually didn't find much I could disagree with on Baldwin's issues.

In my opinion...a vote for McCain will actually help secure his second nomination in the white house.

I can't stand the Democrats. I would however have McCain as president any day over Obama, even though McCain is a Democrat himself.

Z said...

thanks for the comment to Mr. Z....he's very flattered, Steve.

RE: Obama; we might NEVER recover from his presidency. We will not be able to overturn the damage he does with ANY candidate, even one we finally like..there is NO WAY, Steve! You can't stop treaties of non-nuke, you can't UNsign Kyoto (which mcCain wants to sign, too, damn him!), you can't UNappoint SCOTUS judges, you can't take away the free college educations Obama's guaranteeing, you can't turn back the minimum wage he wants (which will kill business here)....we'll be stuck with ALL of that!

NO Conservative will stand a chance if Obama gets four or eight years, God FORBID!

CJ said...

Very much appreciate getting a glimpse of what is going on in Europe. I too read the whole thing. Let's have more from Mr. Z.

Anonymous said...

Excellent post on the EU.

Thanks for you insightful comments at THC. I appreciate that and you!

Anonymous said...

What Mr. Z has done is explain a lot about what many in America fear regarding globalizing, and when NAFTA came roaring on the scene, many said, yes, here it is.

These little ideas always start out good, don't they, and like usual, there is always a gang that comes along and then the good idea becomes a big giant cash cow for some other loafing government types and there you have it, another large, powerful bullying entity shaking you down , and taking away your rights, identity and culture.

It is always the same, a bunch of little dogs getting together to take down the big dog.

WVDOTTR

Z said...

Layla, what a nice thing to say..thanks. Me, too, you.

CJ and WV....I'm glad you enjoyed the piece and I think it's prophetic, too. We're so looking at the same kinds of things here, if not the SAME thing, the ONE BIG WORLD ORDER (Gag)

i'm encouraging Mr. Z to write more about Europe in those things that affect us and not.......it's time we heard the truth such as:

Germans have NEVER had FREE health care.

Germans are being BEGGED to buy private health insurance because they can't afford it anymore! (Since Schroeder was Chancellor, he's been begging, you think our media mentions it? and it has huge bearing on OUR healthcare plans..they don't WANT you to know the truth..DUH)

Europeans do NOT hate America like the media suggests

etc etc stay tuned. there'll be much more truisms!

Anonymous said...

Great background, Mr Z and very moderate and well-considered as others have said. I, however, have very passionate feelings against the E.U. and am not quite so moderate as you. The unelected bureaucrats gaining absolute power thing really bugs me. The potential for abuse in this thing is not only huge but, in my view, almost inevitable. The more power a leader has had throughout history, the more corrupt that leader has become. Democracy must be more than a one-party system and I don't see any other party than the E.U. parliament nor any way of getting them out of power at this stage of the game. The Irish have exercised their last option as a people and look at the bullying they're getting now from the bureaucrats of Europe. There is talk (by the odious Gordon Brown) of railroading and ignoring their right to a vote.
The E.U. is fast becoming a very powerful, one party ruling government and if they bulldoze the Irish on this you can officially pronounce democracy dead. Some people already are (pronouncing it dead).

Anonymous said...

Free Europe? Do what YOU can...
Vote YES at www.FreeEurope.info !