Monday, July 12, 2010

Charlie Daniels and Mr. Obama ..Jammin'

Charlie Daniels View of the Obama Presidency
After being in the music business for 52 years it's just about all I know; anything at all about--and in keeping with my admittedly narrow knowledge--I would like to draw an analogy concerning the Obama administration, viewing things from my vantage point.
Ok, let's say you pick out the finest symphony conductor in the world, add the greatest singer and seven or so of the finest classical musicians on the planet.
You get them together backstage and say, "Alright, there are twenty thousand fans out front, standing room only, expectations are off the charts, they are looking for the best show they've ever seen.
Now the curtain goes up in five minutes, the sound has been checked out, the lights set and everything is perfect, the stage is set for the greatest show the world has ever seen.
Now get there and knock 'em out guys! They're all with you; you're all superstars in their eyes. Go show 'em how it's done.
Oh, there's only been one change… Tonight you have to do your show playing songs you've never played and you'll have to improvise. There's no sheet music. You'll just have to jam."
Can you imagine the panic backstage?
You see, some of the very finest musicians on earth can't jam a lick. I remember a few years ago when I had a couple of young fiddle players come on stage with me and play "The South's Gonna Do It Again."
They had learned the parts I'd played on the record, arrangement, lead lines and all and played it perfectly note for note.
Everything was going swimmingly until I decided to leave the arrangement and jam for a while. When I turned to one of them and told them to take a solo the kid was as lost as a baby sheep in a hale storm.
They had no more idea about improvising than they did about how to build a spaceship.
"The South's Gonna Do It Again" is a simple twelve bar blues song that any musician from any garage band would be able to take a solo on, but even though these kids were extremely talented and played what they knew perfectly, when it came to jammin, they were totally lost. They had just never learned to do it.
To me the presidency is kind of like jammin'. You have to roll with the flow, improvise, adapt to the moment, pick up on what's going on and deal with it.
Our president has never had to jam, he's always had the sheet music in front of him and he's never had to play a note somebody else had not written for him.
One of the biggest mistakes President Obama made when he came in office was to surround himself with a bunch of players who had never jammed either. None of them have ever had any practical experience in the real world.
In essence, they are a bunch of paper tigers, they do an incredible job of spending other people's money and sneaking legislation through the back door, but out in the real world, where there are no scripts, down where the rubber meets the road there is probably not a person in the bunch who could change a flat tire, much less deal with the complex problems America faces.
The only thing Obama has done with any problem that has arisen is to throw money at it, and in truth, that's sadly all he knows how to do. When it comes to dealing with things that money alone won't fix like busted oil pipes at the bottom of the ocean or solving the problems on our southern borders he's lost and all those around him are lost.
The Obama cabinet is the most inept bunch imaginable. When people have only viewed the world from the top of an ivory tower they don't react very well when it's time to get their hands dirty.
Obama's people can't even accept real world concepts of the dangerous situations we're dealing with. Eric Holder wanting to try terrorists in civilian courts, in New York City of all places is nothing less than naïve arrogance.
Janet Napolitano's gross inexperience in dealing with security matters is going to end up costing this country dearly.
Putting an unqualified person who has never even been a judge on the bench of the highest court in the land, for nothing more than her political leanings is insanity.
Everywhere you look you see eggheads with nothing more than a college degree to qualify them for the sensitive jobs they hold.
I'm just wondering how long it will take for a majority of the people in this country to realize that the wheel that steers the direction of this nation is in the hands of people who have no idea how to get from point a to point b without a roadmap and that roadmap just doesn't exist. Every trip is different.
I see disaster looming on the not too distant horizon, financial disaster, increasing danger from terrorist attack, unabated violence in the streets and an arrogant and unmanageable illegal alien population.
It's coming folks and Obama and the band are still in the dressing room looking for the sheet music. They just can't jam.
What do you think?
Pray for our troops, and for our country / God Bless America

Charlie Daniels
z:
the musician metaphor is perfect, folks...believe me. (and thanks, Impertinent)
z

61 comments:

Ducky's here said...

Hey Daniels, Tommy Jarrel and a hundred others owned your no talent butt.

Anonymous said...

Ignore Quack-quack. He spouts a lot of hot air, but without any meaning. Thank you Mr. Daniels for telling the truth about an empty suit whose strings are being pulled by others. He can't do a thing without his TOTUS.

Silvrlady

cube said...

WOW. By Ducky's standards, that makes him racist too ;-)

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Ducky's here said...

Forget it Cube, this guy really bugs me "The South Is Going to Rise Again" is nothing but pretty poor warmed over Bob Wills.

Now Wills is in the Jazz and Country HOF and there would be a darn good case that he belongs in the Rock and Roll as well. Charlie ain't in his league and it's because of lamers like Daniels that American country music has become little more than Taylor Swift gay junk.

He's a complete lamer as a musician so I don't see where he's much of a source for political instruction. He's been doing his share to water down the culture.

I.H.S. said...

That was a good metaphor...

Blessings.

Z said...

Um..Ducky?
Remember how I always tell you you've missed the point again?

Here's a tip: This post isn't about CHarlie Daniels' MUSIC, okay? :-)

Ducky's here said...
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Z said...

Ducky, just wanted you to know I did delete you, so don't you go crying to AlwaysOnWatch and mention at her site that "Z deleted me and I don't know WHY!" again, okay!? You know why. I'm done with the insults..I really am.
Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I love Charlie Daniels and his music. Charlie plays a hot fiddle no doubt about it.

Not only that, but he's very observant and astute. This is a very clever piece.


HI I.H.S., it's been awhile. Good to see you.

Pris

Anonymous said...

"First Lady Michelle Obama brought renewed energy to the NAACP today, delivering the keynote speech at the annual convention one day before the nation's largest civil rights group is expected to condemn what it calls racist elements in the Tea Party movement.

"We're deeply concerned about elements that are trying to move the country back, trying to reverse progress that we've made," NAACP spokeswoman Leila McDowell told ABC News. "We are asking that the law-abiding members of the Tea Party repudiate those racist elements, that they recognize the historic and present racist elements that are within the Tea Party movement."

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, in coordination with 170 other groups, including labor unions, is planning a protest march in Washington, D.C., Oct. 10 as the next step in building momentum against the Tea Party."


Notice something missing here? An enormous political movement using their 1st amendment rights....have been labeled..."racist" To what end? To silence and intimidate legitimate outrage over where the country is going. Voter intimidation? Thugs and the rise of Black nationalists taking the vote away from the people? Shabazz, ignorant racist puke spouting his hate freely ( hate crime? ) against 80% of the population? Notice the lack of outcry that the first "lady" espouses an organization that favors..."colored people"? Wasn't that in line with her Princeton thesis that she couldn't get a fair deal...cause shes a victim?

Have we ever seen a "first lady" say these things?

When I see the klan or an organization espousing hatred of blacks as openly on the streets of America...like the pet, favored naacp does....then I'll think there's a problem. Meanwhile the first hag/ nag....actually has drawn a line in the sand. Against anybody who dares to protest against this commie, socialist government, the taxes, the doj and their racist scum...is labeled...you guessed it...a "racist".

Thousands of the same people who voted for this POS...hoping against all "hope"...that this shit would finally have an end. No...it hasn't...we're back into 1960 again. What has been gained? Nothing...nothing but more hate, anguish and a call for the murder of whites.

"Hope and Change" eh? You gave this freak, this abomination a chance...and soon we'll all look like one huge Detroit. The barbarians are inside the Gate.

Major

Anonymous said...

Part One:

"First Lady Michelle Obama brought renewed energy to the NAACP today, delivering the keynote speech at the annual convention one day before the nation's largest civil rights group is expected to condemn what it calls racist elements in the Tea Party movement.

"We're deeply concerned about elements that are trying to move the country back, trying to reverse progress that we've made," NAACP spokeswoman Leila McDowell told ABC News. "We are asking that the law-abiding members of the Tea Party repudiate those racist elements, that they recognize the historic and present racist elements that are within the Tea Party movement."

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, in coordination with 170 other groups, including labor unions, is planning a protest march in Washington, D.C., Oct. 10 as the next step in building momentum against the Tea Party."

Anonymous said...

Part Two:

Notice something missing here? An enormous political movement using their 1st amendment rights....have been labeled..."racist" To what end? To silence and intimidate legitimate outrage over where the country is going. Voter intimidation? Thugs and the rise of Black nationalists taking the vote away from the people? Shabazz, ignorant racist puke spouting his hate freely ( hate crime? ) against 80% of the population? Notice the lack of outcry that the first "lady" espouses an organization that favors..."colored people"? Wasn't that in line with her Princeton thesis that she couldn't get a fair deal...cause shes a victim?

Have we ever seen a "first lady" say these things?

When I see an organization espousing hatred of blacks as openly on the streets of America...like the pet, favored naacp does....then I'll think there's a problem. Meanwhile the first hag/ nag....actually has drawn a line in the sand. Against anybody who dares to protest against this commie, socialist government, the taxes, the doj and their racist scum...is labeled...you guessed it...a "racist".

Thousands of the same people who voted for this POS...hoping against all "hope"...that this shit would finally have an end. No...it hasn't...we're back into 1960 again. What has been gained? Nothing...nothing but more hate, anguish and a call for the murder of whites.

"Hope and Change" eh? You gave this freak, this abomination a chance...and soon we'll all look like one huge Detroit. The barbarians are inside the Gate.

Major

I.H.S. said...

Awww, thanks Pris I really appreciate that... Going to try and get back more often.

Blessings.

Z said...

Major, to be fair, she didn't say those things about the tea Party..
I'd like to know how a party that's backing more Black men today than any other part can be labeled that way, but...stranger things are happening, no doubt about that.

And, of course, the NAACP has been around for years and she has to suck up to them, no doubt about that...White presidents have spoken to them, too....even one other Black one has (Clinton :-)
But, the very idea that RACISM is raising its ugly head when Conservatives have done nothing to provoke it and this is the TPers to 'repudiate'? Repudiate WHAT?

Seriously....what's their proof of the ridiculous claim?

I'm getting worried that the Obama thuggery's planned this...I thought things were getting BETTER with race relations, I can't believe we're discussing it, and suddenly we have THIS from the NAACP..? All in the quest of the White House to besmirch TPers? Will Obama go this far?? Provoke race riots?

I wish I.H.S. would chime in here.

(by the way, HELLO, IHS, very good that you dropped by!)

By the way...when Pelosi and Napolitano decided to put white people on the terror list for something that wasn't well spelled out, that was upsetting.
Now we have Blacks calling for the murder of white "cracker" babies and Pelosi's not condemning that and putting them on a terror list?

REALLY? WHY NOT, NANC?

Z said...

IHS...if you'd rather not chime in on the race situation, I don't blame you ..I'm just glad you're here.xxx

Anonymous said...

Reparations occurred when Obama was elected. The ledger is closed. Period. One would think. Give me one instance where you or anyone else feels that his corrupt ascendancy to the most honored and respected institution in America...for 234 years, has erased racial animosity?

Starting with the Cambridge police and onward to Nappy politano labeling whites...extremists.

"Major, to be fair, she didn't say those things about the tea Party.."

Really....She said...BLACKS MUST INTENSIFY THEIR EFFORTS TO REPUDIATE TP..."RACISM". This is...the racist first "lady".

I'm sick with disgust. And every GD American who values their freedom of speech...better notice that their voices are intended to be silenced by bogus, outrageous, racist slurs against their god given, constitution given rights...are about to be denied...by racist organizations like the naacp, the cbc, the black governors...and every other damn racist alphabet soup of black organizations designed to curb...your enthusiasm. Do blacks remember that it was white outrage that defeated the dog demorats in the south ( like ole man Gore and Byrd ) who wanted to deny thrm their rights?

It's all about payback folks. The proverbial shit...has now hit the fan...courtesy of the "first lady". Lady my ass.

Major

Z said...

"We're deeply concerned about elements that are trying to move the country back, trying to reverse progress that we've made," NAACP spokeswoman Leila McDowell told ABC News."

To be fair, Major, Michelle didn't say it.
And, I don't agree Obama is 'reparations'..

Anonymous said...

As a Tea Party member, I'd ask the First Lady and the NAACP to repudiate the racist elements among their protesters, and I'll try to find one in ours. As of yet, I haven't met one in attending five Tea Party events.

I think this effort on the part of the NAACP is very sad. One American group protesting another American group.

I know this is a coordinated effort orchestrated by Obamaites, and with the First Lady's endorsement, a stamp of approval from the White House.

Perhaps our President and the First Lady have forgotten they're supposed to represent all of the people. To align themselves with one group over another is to divide Americans not unite us.

The Tea Party movement did not come together to protest a segment of the population, we came together to protest what the government is doing.

I think this circumstance does not bode well for our country. We can disagree politically, we can even be angry, but to target one group over another without any provocation, is damaging and dangerous.

This White House is responsible for this, as is the left, who are desperate. Desperation is not an excuse for spreading hate where none exists.

Pris

Z said...

but, I WILL say the Obamas have not made race situations at ALL better..considering the way he's spoken to people, and the Harvard "Beer SUmmit" and calling cops STUPID, and I DO believe he IS making America PAY for the things he was raised resenting...Just read his books. WOW

Z said...

Excellent post, Pris...

About 20% of the crowd at the only TP event I went to was Black...fabulous people, joyous, positive...the whole crowd was so excited to be making REAL change back to the real America.

Anonymous said...

"As a Tea Party member, I'd ask the First Lady and the NAACP to repudiate the racist elements among their protesters"

Like this one:

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=XdZu6U4znz

"Perhaps our President and the First Lady have forgotten they're supposed to represent all of the people. To align themselves with one group over another is to divide Americans not unite us."

Don't hold your breathe waiting for the first lady racist to repudiate ANY....ANY Afro centric racist black nationalist alphabet, crud in order to unite...all Americans. She...and they have lost whatever cred they ever had....with Americans.

Remember...she sat in the same "church" along with her socialist husband for 20 years...and even wrote her princeton thesis around...what else...race.

Major

I.H.S. said...

Z, I will say this... In my limited number of years really taking notice of what is going on in the political arena; it has become very apparent to me that the idea of racism only becomes an issue for either side when one side is clearly being out staged. It reminds me of what my grandmother has said when I was a little guy and she yet says it today..."people swear when they don't have the vocabulary to hold a legitimate conversation"; the same can be said for either side of the political spectrum; when being out done go for the race card. Personally I am beyond fed up with the whole conversation. I simply try and tell people to stop getting caught up with all the posturing and listen to what is really being said by everyone and then make a decision for yourselves.

Blessings.

Z said...

Major, it's true that they have a past of not showing love of this country, etc., no doubt about it......and they're working daily to put us in astonishing debt and redistribution and lying, there is NO DOUBT about that (have you seen the pictures of Obama with Blagojevich smiling and laughing and talking, about 6 different occasions, when Obama said he barely knew Blago? and he said he had only met Ayers once but he'd had his first political gathering IN HIS HOUSE and their wives worked together and they themselves served on Boards together, they knew each other WELL...there are lies (Heck, even "YOu can keep your health care" is a terribly dishonest lie)...she has said some terrible things about our country...but we need a better educated electorate and an honest media and we need Black Conservative leaders who'll be an example to Black Americans....I pray about that.

Z said...

IHS...I think those are wise words...
But, playing the race card the way it's being done, by calling TPers racist for no reason (or maybe you don't feel that way?), etc., is so dangerous...it's fomenting something I know all of us do NOT want in this country..EVER AGAIN.

I.H.S. said...

I would agree Z, and this is why we must educate people on how to listen rather than hear. When we listen we use our own minds and breakdown what's being said and we weigh it against established truths, but when we hear, we simply go along with what sounds good at the time. This may sound a little crazy, but I have never looked for Mr Obama to bring people together, but I looked to and still look to people to bring themselves together.

Blessings.

Z said...

Well ,IHS...I just thought that Obama had SOME sensitivity for race situations and that he'd encourage Black youth (and White Youth) to be their best and to encourage people to come even more together...I really did.
I was so sick at heart when a young Black kid, I think high school age?, was killed in Chicago and people were hoping he'd take that opportunity to encourage that kid's peers all over the country to STOP THE INSANITY of gangs and killing their own classmates, etc......Obama didn't seize that moment.

What we do for ourselves to 'bring ourselves together' is one thing, and I agree...but we could use someone on the national stage to, TODAY, say "Hey, this has to STOP, yes, there's racism out there but it's minimal and we need to come together....we need to be Americans FIRST>"

I can dream.

I.H.S. said...

Z, I hear you but outside of being a person for young minorities to look at and say to themselves, "The sky really is the limit to what I can become". Would it have been good for him to speak to young people when the young man was killed, of course. But, more importantly I think what needs to take place is for the President to put out a PSA on teen on violence in general. That's my dream Z.

Blessings.

jadedfellow said...

I've been listening for more years than I want to admit, so hear ye this!

In '08 the devil went down to Washington and all that he has done is sit around and fiddle as this country burns.

Yep I'z a bit out there, but if you played country records backwards, hoping to git this country back, like I do, you'd be alittle warped also.

Z, you've got a great mind, keep up the stellar work, you are a rocking star.

Ducky's here said...

z, you deleted the part about Charlie Daniels not getting the "shut up and sing" from hypocrites like Laura Ingraham?

Doesn't seem fair.

Ducky's here said...

z, you deleted the part about Charlie Daniels not getting the "shut up and sing" from hypocrites like Laura Ingraham?

Doesn't seem fair.

Ducky's here said...

Let's put this experience thing another way. it was David McCullough who pointed out that when first elected, NO ONE has experience as POTUS, so Obama isn't unique there.

Now what is the primary quality we might look for in a president? Again McCullogh, common sense. That should be what we are looking for rather than a rigid doctrinaire mentality.

Now Obama's worst fault is his apparent belief that if you just give in to the right a little more then something might get done. Voila, an impasse, stalemate in Afghanistan, lousy health care bill, no stimulus for job creation, no help for the housing market ... doing it the Republican way and Charlie Daniels is whining.

beamish said...
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beamish said...

CDB makes a point I made months ago in a post on my blog specifically about music. CDB's being nice about it, but the blunt fact is that 99.998% of classical musicians have no creative talent whatsoever. They play what was written for them, following along tabulature and obedient to a conductor with a stick, but task them with composing something new and original or improvising from scratch and they'd be as clueless as Ducky in a room with a naked girl.

It's a nice analogy to our teleprompted imbecile in chief.

Z said...

IHS, it's a good dream..keep dreamin' and praying!

Ducky, you're holding MY feet to the fire on a point when you've never answered one pointed question I've asked you?
When you tell me what country's more 'exceptional' than America (as I've asked 10 times), I'll tell you about my thoughts on 'shut up and sing'.

jaded...thanks so much. Good to have you here


Beamish, my dear...I must say that I feel classical musicians ARE talented and one doesn't just PLAY what's written there but one's trained in HOW to play it, that is years and years after hours of practice each day. (but I'm partial cuz my gift is piano sight reading, I have to admit...and jazz singing, of course :-) I read too well to improvise well on the piano but I can improvise circles around a jazz combo when I sing. but, enough about MOI...

Yes, most don't compose, but many do, they just don't get anywhere with it.... Yes, rockers and jazz musicians DO improvise better USUALLY.......
re your line about Ducky?
YOu have quite a way with words! :-)

beamish said...

Z,

To me it's the difference between reading Shakespeare and being Shakespeare.

Classical musicians vs. rock musicians ultimately boils down to totalitarian vs. libertarian. The former has many notes, the latter knows what to do with them.

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Elmers Brother said...

classical musicians do improvise...it's called a cadenza

One example is Concerto for Piano and Orchestra No. 17 in G Major, K. 453: II. Andante (Cadenza: Mozart). The piano player usually plays a part in tribute to Mozart.

Elmers Brother said...

that he writes himself

Anonymous said...

Ducky,
The Democrats pass a health are bill and stimulus package over strong Republican opposition and you call it doing things the Republican way? I don't think you can convince yourself that you're being intellectually honest.

I suspect that you're being more honest when you ask why CD didn't get included in the Shut up and Sing crowd. I would suggest that denouncing your country/president in concert in a foreign country is different from writing an opinion column. (I think the lop-sidedness of opinions also has something to do with Ingaham's assessment...I haven't read that one though)

I will give you the "confused by a naked girl" was an ad hominem attack, but I think so is the "CD is a lame musician so his opinion doesn't count" argument.

For what it's worth, I like CDB, at least enough to get a Greatest Hits.


tio

Anonymous said...

Z, you make me jealous. Sight-reading really impresses me. It amazes me that people can play something they've never seen and make it sound like, you know, music. But then, I'm also amazed by the ability to improvise.

tio

Z said...

Elbro, true about cadenzas, but they're really rare and far between...kind of a rare 'jam session' in an ochestra!! Good pt.

Beamish...good analogy there.

tio...sight reading seems so simple to me I barely regard it as a gift, but people ARE blown away, so I suppose it is. MY problem is that my piano coaches over the years as a child would try to give me THEORY and I'd close my ears and think "Who needs that when I CAN READ?" Of course, good improvisers need theory .... but people can also improvise with no training and a very small few have even made careers from that.
Sometimes, improvisers can seem more talented (As Beamish subscribes) with no music in front of them, and many do practice their craft to better it, BUT, an excellent classical musician spends HOURS and HOURS on his instrument and on interpretation skills, and other aspects of orchestral playing that don't come easy.

Anonymous said...

Beamish, The thing is, many songwriters aren't great singers, or are not necessarily great instrumentalists.

Randy Newman comes to mind. He can pull it off, but he can carry a tune and that's about it. Burt Bacharach is another.

You know, one can read Shakespeare, and one can perform Shakespeare. Please don't tell me that it doesn't matter who performs it.

There are pianists who are mechanically good, and pianists whose passion comes through their fingertips to the keys.

It's palpable when they're really good. It's not enough just to have the ability to read music and play, it's what one feels when he plays.

It's the same with any performer. What they feel comes through. Oh, and having to do the bump and grind to sell a song, to me, is not talent. A great singer doesn't need that.

Pris

beamish said...

Tio,

If Ducky were capable of intellectual honesty, or intellectual anything (he does insist he's a leftist, afterall) he'd readily admit that he's an imbecile.

beamish said...

Pris,

You know, one can read Shakespeare, and one can perform Shakespeare. Please don't tell me that it doesn't matter who performs it.

My focus was specifically upon creative talent. There are performers who can bring Shakespeare's characters to life, and there are perfomers who merely have the lines memorized.

Creative talent is rare.

Anonymous said...

"Classical musicians vs. rock musicians ultimately boils down to totalitarian vs. libertarian. The former has many notes, the latter knows what to do with them."

Beamish,
I could say, what are rockers without electronics? The electric guitar, synthesizers, in essence, "special effects". How creative is that?

Heck, where would they have been without Les Paul?

Classical musicians for the most part are more "purist", and don't use special effects. The organ is an exception however.

Btw, I like both, classical and rock, I'm not knocking either.

Pris

Anonymous said...

Here's one of my all time favorites. A great jam session. With some of the best in the business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSGNSE6bM2Y

Pris

Z said...

Pris..Good points...it's where THE BLUES came from..not many have classically trained, WONDERFUL voices which are pure and vibrato-full. Thank GOD.
One of my very favorites is LEON RUSSELL...now that man COULD NOT sing and he's one of my very FAVORITE SINGERS :-) (Bacharach, as you said..Willy Nelson, even Edit Piaf(I adore her..but you have to have lived in France to start to even like a LITTLE that exaggerated French vibrato, TRUST me, but of course Ducky will have loved her because he doesn't need France to enlighten him!), Phoebe Snow (another fave of mine), Leo Sayer, Phil Collins, Robt Plant (be still, my heart) ...Cocker, for goodness sake!...JOPLIN! (okay, I"m done now :-)
the list is endless...singers who can't sing but are GREAT SINGERS!! I've often said I'd rather have a less than wonderful sound and be able to TELL THE SONG heart-warmingly.
By the way, folks...if you're a Leon fan, SIT DOWN; Elton John's doing an album with him! Leon's had awful money problems for years (somebody didn't pay his TAXES ,not sure it was him or his mgr, which has ruined at least two of my own very minor celeb musician friends (one of whom was a founding member of THE NICE and later became my business partner)...When he was desperately broke about 30 years ago or so, he HAD to make money and turned to music but had to NOT use his name or face on the album; Hence "HANK WILSON" was born!! The album cover is Leon with his BACK to the camera and some pretty okay music..not his very best.

Anyway, Elton's always loved him, too, apparently, and has announced an album (CD, sorry) coming out in OCTOBER !HURRAH!!!! (I hope there's less of Elton and a lot of Leon!)

Anonymous said...

Z, you have a great list there.
I'm a Willie Nelson fan too. Also Bonnie Rait. I could go on and on.

I hope you watch the link I left in my last comment. I can't sit and watch, I had to get out of my chair and dance!

I love it!

Pris

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Faith said...

I totally loved Edith Piaf the very first moment I heard her back on Ed Sullivan whenever that was. I don't think you need to have lived in France or need to know anything about music to love that voice of hers. And I can assure you, I know very little about music, had some piano lessons and can play a few things but that's about it. But a spectacular voice I love. Patsy Cline how about. Andrea Bocelli. Style doesn't matter as much, just the voice for me.

Z said...

Faith, glad you like Piaf...As a trained singer, it's always been tough to hear that really strong nasal vibrato but I started appreciating it in Paris, myself..it just 'fits'

Andrea Bocelli...good voice; Here, I was talking about singers without 'good sounds' but who sing the HECK out of a song with great style. I'm not the biggest fan of his, wouldn't buy a CD, but he surely has a beautiful sound.

Pris, I like Orbison but am not a big fan of that cut...altho I know people LOVE it and it does get you movin'!!

I am a Cline fan.

Deborah on the Bayside said...

I'm just reading this post. Terrific analogy. Putting it in my own quiver. Thanks!

beamish said...

Pris,

I could say, what are rockers without electronics? The electric guitar, synthesizers, in essence, "special effects". How creative is that?

I would argue that you're confusing the toolbox with the craftsman. The palette with the painter.

Check out Jack White of the White Stripes building a electric guitar from a milk bottle and two-by-four.

Jack White is a phenomenal guitarist, and did in that short video what most classical musicians never could... he built his own instrument! It's not the tool, but the one who uses it.

The question turns on "can they use it?" A creative talent can. A classical musician, reading by sight and trained under conduction, usually has no flippin' idea what potentials his instrument has because they never have to tap them.

Z said...

beamish, I have to say that MOST rock/metal musicians don't know what their instruments can do beyond what they were taught, too.

You haven't lived till you've had to sit through a piano concert where the dope PICKS his piano strings for "Modern Music" (it's a joke)..but, he's using his piano in unconventional ways. Hard to build a piano with milk bottles, let's face it.

There are great, inventive and creative musicians on both sides of the aisle...and most classical virtuosos spend more hours practicing than the greatest of the non-classical. Everyone practices but good classical people have to be well practiced to get the smoothness and alacrity of, let's say, a pianist or violinist who has to play REALLY tough cadenzas, etc.
"easier" to play a GREAT guitar riff you're making up as you go , which, of course, I also love to listen to.

Elmers Brother said...

well...building a guitar out of wire and a transducer...impressive

a laundry bucket and a string

these guys have designed and built ancient instruments just from drawings as I understand it...

like a lot of things...marginalizing whole groups is never good, but calling out individuals who inspire and are innovative is almost ALWAYS good

Elmers Brother said...

well Jack White is not most musicians

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Mr Daniels rather sounds as if he's describing the last three republican presidents we've had. He, like many others, seem to have a disconnect between who conservatives are versus what they say or what they do. These are three separate and wildly distinct things. I feel sure that Mr Daniels loves his country. I'm also sure that he like many others, fail to see that their beloved conservatives are finally making ground in taking this country back. Back to 1920. Replacing our beloved Democratic Republic with a Plutocracy. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just that simple.

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