Thursday, July 22, 2010

"Not the whiteman's b**** "

From my commenter, Major, we learn that, in Madison, Wisconsin, a "legislative candidate from Wisconsin can't use a profane, racially charged phrase to describe herself on the ballot, an election oversight board decided Wednesday. Ieshuh Griffin, an independent running for a downtown Milwaukee seat in the state Assembly, wants to use the phrase, "NOT the 'whiteman's b----.'"" HERE is the link to the full article from which I pulled the italicized quotes below:

Griffin, who is black, argued her case to the five white, retired judges on the board that regulates elections. She said the phrase was protected free speech.

"It's a freedom of expression," she said. "It's not racial. It's not a slur."

Board member Thomas Cane, a retired state appeals court judge, said he didn't find the wording to be "particularly offensive."

Fellow board member Thomas Barland, who spent 33 years as a circuit court judge in Eau Claire, agreed.

"She says a lot in five words," he said. "It wasn't pornographic, it wasn't obscene and I didn't interpret it as racial." Who wouldn't find "whiteman's bitch" racial?

Roxanne Dunlap, a white woman from Sussex, felt compelled to speak up in the middle of the meeting, saying she was offended by the statement. She said if a white candidate wanted to have the statement "not the black man's b----" put on the ballot, it would be soundly rejected.

YATHINK? :-) The vote was 3 to 1 in her favor but one judge wasn't there and she needed 4 to succeed. Is this REALLY how bad things have become in decency and civility in America? Apparently so. She's an "Independent", by the way.

(Thanks, Major...Z)

30 comments:

Craig and Heather said...

Sheesh.

Z said...

You can say that again, Heather!
(Oh, wait, only psi bond does that)

Craig and Heather said...

(Oh, wait, only psi bond does that)

LOL!

H

Deborah on the Bayside said...

I heard this story this morning - but DIDN'T hear she almost won. She's a child - like the children of the 60's wanting to push the envelope just cuz. Probably chants green, but doesn't mind polluting her environment in other ways. What's with the moronic judges, though?

Anonymous said...

Anytime Ms.Z.

As my dear departed anchor klanker uncle once told me.."It's enough to burn the balls off a brass monkey"!

Any swabbie knows the history of the brass monkey too. And it isn't racial either.

Major

Anonymous said...

Just what we need, to reside in the gutter.

Of course it's racial and a slur.

Actually it's a double whammy of a slur, against white people and women!

This is what happens when standards don't seem to matter anymore.

Furthermore, after listening to the "poor me" black victocrats my entire adult life, I'm sick of this notion that if you are a "person of color" you get a free pass when it comes to being civil, insults, and epithets.

If anyone, regardless of color, is respectful of others, has manners, and good character values, he or she will be accepted by the overwhelming majority of people.

So for God's sake, it's time for people to realize there will always be others they don't like, or that don't like them. GET OVER IT!!

If you walk around with a chip on your shoulder, it stands to reason, you'll put people off. GROW UP!!

OK, I feel better already.

Pris

Anonymous said...

Ummmm....ummmm...ahhhhh....watch the annoying racist yourself!

ahhhh, ummmm

Major

Ducky's here said...

Absolutely refreshing.

Don't hide your light under a bushel, eh Heather?

Z said...

Deborah, the whole country's being run by children.
Amazing that they'd dissed Sherrod so quickly and so finally.."pull over on the side of the road and QUIT"
She's saying more and more now which doesn't shine quite the light of redemption we were so happily shining on her once the whole version of the video was heard (I hope Breitbart releases who gave him the edited version, don't you?) I'm disappointed.

See you all late tonight EST.
z

Anonymous said...

Man o man...this is sad. Isn't the Senate screwed up enough? This guy Greene really is a Forrest Gump and it's sad...for him and for those who vote for the guy.

According to his now released military records.."Greene is “usually capable of handling mundane tasks with supervision” but is “not able to adapt to any changes to daily routine,” the reviewer wrote, also noting that Greene had received multiple disciplinary actions for failing to perform his duties.

Greene was also written up for posting sensitive information on a military Internet server, a mistake that resulted in a three-day work stoppage. Records showed Greene was kept at Shaw while the rest of his unit deployed after leadership “recognized his inability to contribute to the wartime mission.”…

The reviewer also wrote Greene “required a daily to-do list” to perform basic duties and had a “consistent inability to follow instructions or maintain basic job knowledge.” Most seriously, the reviewer wrote that Greene would represent
“a threat to others” because of his inability to grasp the basics of military training.

In additional comments, the reviewer said she would not recommend Greene for promotion but did note his community service work and fundraising efforts for a holiday party. “While Alvin is a decent person, he lacks the basic skills necessary for promotion,” the summary said.


Maybe he should move to Madison and team up with....ummmmm...ahhhhh?

This poor guy is going to get in lots of trouble in the Senate...as he won't be able to carry the water unless he gets a script.

Watch for yourself

Major

Craig and Heather said...

Don't hide your light under a bushel, eh Heather?

I'm all for freedom of expression, but I do NOT understand why she would choose to use such polarizing language to do so.

What's the purpose?

H

Z said...

that's freedom of expression? or free speech?
To put BITCH on a ballot? To suggest she's not the WHITEMAN'S BITCH?

Let's consider how FREE SPEECH some would take it if it were "I'm not the blackman's bitch".

Either way is unacceptable in any decent society, but, these days, we have to define DECENT. WOW.

Craig and Heather said...

And Ducky,

There's a difference between lighting a candle and firing up a flame thrower.

It's possible to succinctly make one's point without being obnoxious.

H

Z said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_go_co/us_rangel_ethics

Will this be racism, too?

And, Heather, I agree but I don't think what she said was lighting any candles. She's just a very angry subscriber to victimhood.

Z said...

darn if I don't have to get going..

"Talk amongst yourselves" :-)

see you tonight..xx

Craig and Heather said...

And, Heather, I agree but I don't think what she said was lighting any candles. She's just a very angry subscriber to victimhood.


What I find offensive is not so much the racial implication but the fact that she'd use the word B**** in reference to herself. To say "I'm not 'owned' by a white guy" is probably expected in this particular political climate.

But her chosen terminology doesn't lead readers to believe she's not a B**** on some other level.

Why use such a derogatory word at all? What's the point?

H

Ducky's here said...

I was being a bit sarcastic, heather but it would be kind of refreshing to find this level of honesty on the ballot.

Craig and Heather said...

I was being a bit sarcastic, heather but it would be kind of refreshing to find this level of honesty on the ballot.

Well, that's a relief. I can't see how anyone could call a big swig of sewer-speak "refreshing".

Personally, I'd also like to see more honesty on the ballot so we can all see who we're really dealing with. It'd go a long way toward preventing unpleasant surprises ambiguously presented as "change".

H

H

Anonymous said...

Heather..."Why use such a derogatory word at all? What's the point?"

Heather...please....I know, I know...it's unfathomable to most self respecting, suburban folks, right? God Bless ya Heather. I love it when someone doesn't get it!!

But...in a black vernacular, it's an honorarium to be addressed as a "bitch". It's a culture that we're not a part of or invited into if you're not black.. The same way it's perfectly acceptable ( and don't delete this Ms. Z...we all know it's acceptable to many in the black world ...I don't like the word myself...it makes me frown ) to address other blacks as "niggah". Terrible....wrong...demeaning and self destructive. But we all know it's used as some sign of hip hop or underground "kool". A way to "bond" in a way that only blacks can bond and anyone else, ironically enough, is out of bounds. If you're not black and use it...expect a real beat down.

It's...I imagine....a sort of "sheek" ( meaning 'stylish' or 'smart' ) wise ass code.

I never...and I mean "nevah" thought of any black Marines....as that. My Black Marines...are / were the baddest ass, bravest, courageous, generous, dedicated, and meanest MF's that the Corp ever produced. I loved them all. And I learned from them...and I respected them...and they knew it.

That's why some of the best are stars at Paris.

Major

~Leslie said...

I would like to say that this would show voters her total lack of class and her racist intentions, but then I think I would be living in a fantasy land. It is just something like this that shows the downhill avalanche our society, political system, and citizenship has taken.

Anonymous said...

Then I see this right after my post about soldiers. Only the LA Times could question our soldiers in uniform...The scummiest rag outside of the NYT.

The rats speak out"
How low...is low?

Major

Faith said...

Run by children, how true, Z. Naughty children. I can hardly believe this silly girl is being taken seriously for half a minute.

Sam Huntington said...

I find it difficult to believe some people here are unaware of black vernacular. Did you not know that it is so different from English that some educators in California actually petitioned the Los Angeles School Board to recognize Ebonics so that black students could be taught in gutter speak? This stupidity comes from the liberal wellspring arguing that every point of view is valid. This simply isn’t true because there are all kinds of invalid points of view. One of these is the argument set forth by this young idiot woman. Since when does “white” reflect “government,” or “the man?”

My question is this: when you go to the mall with your small children and you hear gangsters of any color using filthy language, are you insulted by it? What do you do about that? If you ignore it then you lend negative reinforcement. If you address it to the filthy mouth b****es, good for you. I suspect we hear so much of this kind of gutter language because no one will address it directly.

Karen K said...

Classy.

Craig and Heather said...

Major

Heather...please....I know, I know...it's unfathomable to most self respecting, suburban folks, right? God Bless ya Heather. I love it when someone doesn't get it!!

I knew about the "n" word but have to admit I didn't realize the extent of the inversion.

Thank you for the education, sir.


H

Z said...

Heather, I can take B****, the other part bothered me even more. And, good point...who'd vote for someone who uses that kind of language? It's 'refreshing' for black AND white Americans to be told right up front, by her, not to vote for her because of her demeanor. She did Wisconsin a public service.

She's American, she needs to grow up and remember there are black Americans who are not victims. When she has to say what she did, you know VICTIM's all over her.

Pris, it's a good thing she didn't use HO, huh? She'd have to go apologizing like Imus did, YATHINK!? :-)

Ducky, how's that honest? WHo wants her to be their b****? Whiteman wants her to pull her weight and be an adult and have a little dignity, that's all. Too much to ask?

Faith, I don't think too many are taking her seriously.

Sam, you know what happens when an adult walks up to a gutter mouthed kid at a mall, etc. Man, the spewing they'd hear THEN? Remember the old days when kids were told to watch their language and they realized they'd gone too far and would cower and apologize?
think it's conservative parents who started growing kids who should FEEL FREE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES through offensive language :-)?
(oh, but what's OFFENSIVE, right? Who makes that distinction!? :-)

karen..VERY!

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

H,

It's possible to succinctly make one's point without being obnoxious.

True. But then we'd have to ask Ducky if he was feeling okay.

Craig and Heather said...

True. But then we'd have to ask Ducky if he was feeling okay.


:P



I fished you out of moderation and you should be able to comment freely on my site, now.

Anonymous said...

"She did Wisconsin a public service."

Hardly Z...she's in Madison which has more froot loops and nut bars than Bezerkley and San Francisco! They'll have a protest march any day now replete with bull horns claiming they're denied free speech ( but with bull horns! ). Sharpton will be the star on the menu with an guest appearance by a contrite, sheepish Imus who'll suggest she use "Ho" instead.

She'll get the votes of the AA studies and the Fem crowd...I betcha. She'll then be another Cynthia McKinney.

Major

Z said...

Major, there are even tons of conservatives here in Santa Monica, CA...I'm sure there are some in Wisconsin who'll benefit from ruining this horrible girl's chances! I hope those running against her win!