by Morgon Orlins
If I could give my fellow Americans one bit of advice--and have it stick--it would be this:
WAKE UP !!!
Our way of life is under serious assault, right now! Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, even the simple freedom to choose your own health care with your doctor is endangered.
Let's look at the 1st Amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Congress hasn't established a state religion, but they have helped to prohibit the "free exercise thereof" in a thousand different ways in the last 50 years. In the ridiculously named, trillion dollar "Stimulus Bill" there is a provision prohibiting the use of funds to rebuild any structure on a university campus that is used for religious worship. Nancy Pelosi inserted that particular gem!
The ACLU has been the spearhead of this attack on the free exercise of Christianity, and to a lesser extent Judaism. As a matter fact, the ACLU has led a relentless assault on everything we hold dear as Americans!
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--or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Freedom of speech has been under constant assault by the left for at least twenty years now. The very concept of "hate speech" should be hateful to those who value FREE SPEECH. I've wracked my brain to come up with a meaningful definition of the term "hate speech", and I've failed. So let's try this definition:
Hate Speech--those common sense opinions which run contrary to the leftist worldview.
Democrats are engaged in a full-court press to reenact the absurdly named "Fairness Doctrine." This is an effort the shut down conservative talk radio, and it HAS worked in the past. Here's how it works...
Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity state an opinion on a political topic for 10 minutes. Then one of George Soros' toady groups, like Media Matters, calls up the local station director and DEMANDS 10 minutes of airtime to "refute" Rush's opinions. The station will be required by law to grant that 10 minutes of airtime, and people by the millions turn their radios off! If liberal opinions were interesting in the least, or even cogent, Air America would have been a SMASHING success instead of an economic train wreck. When listeners change the radio dials in those numbers, advertisers stop paying for airtime, and the show eventually fails! That's how it worked in the past, and that's EXACTLY what the leftists/Democrats intend to do now. They may change the euphmism to "Localism" or something even more absurd, but know this:
The Democrats intend to kill Conservative talk radio and the Pusch is on right now! If they truly wanted "fairness" the Fairness Doctrine would apply to TV, newspapers, and magazines too. All of these information mediums are overwhelmingly liberal and serve the big government, freedom-killing agenda of the left. (Z: Great point again, Morgan... imagine Pelosi allowing this to apply to newpapers when they're SO in HER bag!?!?)
The 2nd Amendment to the Constitution states:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The Supreme Court has correctly found that the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED upon! Barack Obama and the radical left won't be able to change this until and unless he gets to change the composition of the courts.
Enter our new Attorney General, Eric Holder. We know that Eric has a soft spot for terrorists, since he was instrumental in the pardoning of numerous terrorists at the end of Clinton's reign. We also know that Mr. Holder was heavily involved in the raid on the home of Elian Gonzalez to return him to communist Cuba, at GUN POINT! Eric Holder has a long history of opposing gun ownership for private citizens, but he doesn't hesitate using heavily armed government agents to raid the home of an American citizen protecting a small boy from communist slavery.
People like Eric Holder EPITOMIZE the radical left's opposition to citizens keeping and bearing arms! After all, armed citizens are far more difficult to dictate to, or even enslave.
Attorney General Eric Holder is there for ONE purpose, to go after Americans, and our 2nd Amendment! Barack Obama already made it clear to the Jihadis that "we are not your enemy" when he spoke to Al-Aribiya radio two weeks ago. Obama wants space, he wants "breathing room" from the War On Terror so that he can use his new AG Holder to go after his American political opposition, and gun owners are right at the top of that list!
For now, Holder will have to nibble at the edges of the 2nd Amendment by issuing/enforcing extended waiting periods for gun purchases, restrictions on ammo purchases, listing everything bigger that a .22 caliber as an assault weapon, and engaging in other forms of subterfuge. But make no mistake, gun owners are in Holder's cross-hairs.
Buried in the trillion-page, TRILLION dollar beast of a "Stimulus Bill" on page 905 is a provision that sets up a healthcare treatment "commissar" who will consult with your doctor to give the ultimate yea or nay to your treatments. Surely something this intrusive should have been debated on the floor of both houses of Congress. Right? For further reading on this subject, here's something from the CNS news service...
Ladies and gentlemen, whether it's freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, or the simple freedom to consult privately with your doctor about your own healthcare, the left is out to DESTROY your freedom.
In 1985 ex-Soviet KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov sat down for a lengthy interview to explain how the war against America is being fought. It can be found here.
and Yuri explains the systematic "demoralization" process here.
Jonah Goldberg wrote, "what we call Liberalism, is in fact a descendant and manifestation of fascism. It is a totalitarian political religion." Mr. Goldberg is absolutely right!
Now what will we do about this full frontal assault on American freedom? Will we "go quietly into the good night" and accept the monstrous government yoke being forced on us by the newly inaugurated Obama Administration? Will we be passive in the face of the hideous assault on our freedoms?
Or will we be worthy of the sacrifices made by our forefathers who protected freedom? I'm getting my marching shoes ready. Will you join me?
Z: thanks, Morgan....there are many things we need to wake up and realize...and be vigilant about.
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Z, the affronts to liberty are even worse than I stated in my opinion piece. In the interests of keeping it short, I didn't even delve into the left's plans for global warming (billions in the "stimulus plan") or their continuous assault on property rights. The overlap in those two subjects are shocking.
Enviro laws are largely an assault on property rights in the name of things which have NO legal rights, and CANNOT have legal rights. In the name of a spotted salamander, lefties at the EPA can keep you from draining a plugged culvert for example. The very presense of an eagles nest, no matter HOW OLD will prohibit you from cutting a tree on your property in many states! Don't even get me started on Kangaroo Rats.
I wonder if Eagle tastes good? That would be my solution. Cook him over a fire made from the wood of the tree.
The slow erosion of freedom that we've experienced over the last 120years has picked up DRAMATICALLY in this new Administration, with this Democrat Congress. More than ever, we'll have to keep on top of these enemies of American freedom!
The "Fairness Doctrine", or "Localism" being applied to radio will be our signal to march on Washington with our pitchforks! THAT will be the left's death blow to free speech. It'll be a downward spiral from there, so we'll have to make them fear for their safety when they try that.
Yuri was right about that. The only way these Totalitarian bast--ds will sit up and take notice is by making them afraid for their lives! These people are not Americans in the classic liberal sense, they are dictatorial thugs hiding in the Democrat Party. Is there ANY doubt about the nature of Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, Frank, or Waters? NO!
These people are leftist radicals straight out of the fascist/Saul Alinsky playbook.
The time to act may come soon, and when it does, we'll need EVERYONE you can muster!
Morgan
Well, I have to say that I never thought it would take such a short time for the far right to sense its impotence and go into its death throes.
I am struck by the cheap appeals to emotion and lack of reason but when The Vulgar Pigboy Rush is your news commentator it's to be expected.
Mr. Reagan, he dead.
Frank Page figured he would be one of the last religious figures in America that President Obama would want on the advisory council for his Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.
"Most everyone knows I'm a conservative person in theology as well as in politics, so I was shocked that they would wish for me to be on this council," the pastor of Taylors First Baptist Church and past president of the Southern Baptist Convention told The Greenville News.
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My, my, the faith based initiatives are still there and Obama picked a conservative to head them.
Now, the only place you find this news in prominence is on left wing sites because the right would rather whine about the fact that stimulus money can't be used to renovate or build churches (clearly unconstitutional).
You must be dreaming about the RNC ducky. In case you haven't noticed, everybody's still here. And we're getting more & more pissed every single day that goes by. I'd hate to be on your end when the volcano blows.
I'm with you my friend.
Ducky, no more insults. Stick to the issue.
Nice try, but the many many terrible things, the lying that THIS ISN"T PORK (What? STD prevention is STIMULUS? etc etc etc etc etc), THOSE the things that are wrong and bad for America.
Yippee..One conservative's silly enough to think he can take a job and be listened to and you're touting that as if it's the biggest bone Obama can throw people.
Sorry...that's just plain silly.
Thanks, Debbie. Good to have you here.
(What? STD prevention is STIMULUS? etc etc etc etc etc), THOSE the things that are wrong and bad for America.
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Well less than a percentage point of the bill and it was removed but somehow this is still a "pork bill". Bore me later.
Preventing STD is bad for America? Only in the far right bizarro world.
I'm ready for the fight.
I am struck by the cheap appeals to emotion and lack of reason but when The Vulgar Pigboy Rush is your news commentator it's to be expected.
Was this an example of a "cheap appeal?"
I've noticed -over the years -that when honest-thought-filled-fact-filled debate breaks down---name calling ensues...
Just a Little Ray Of sunshine here-liberals in the lib state of Oregon are proposing a 1900% increase on a barrel of beer---that ought to help the many brewers up there .. )-:
C-CS
that would be --
..name calling ensues...and on another note....:
...1900% tax -etc-etc...
Ducky's molting everywhere today. He's been losing feathers and duck droppings over at my place as well. A textbook case of liberal non-thinking.
Z,
Morgan's essay was thought provoking. Perhaps history will be revisited when Americans feel their only recourse is a reprise of the Hartford Convention. I posted on this subject today. Nice job, Morgan.
Totalitarianism, thy face is the Obamessiah.
BZ
P.S.
Mr Ducky: where have you been the past ten years? With your love of government, why HAVEN'T you been sending in at least two to three times your due taxes to the local, state and, mostly, your federal government? It is YOU, sir, that is negligent. It is YOU, sir, that have failed to cut large and extra checks to the government. Because, now, you have forced the government to do it for you. Shame on YOU, sir.
well said, morgan, and thanks for posting it, z. yes, the std clause was removed, ducky, but please explain how a health commissar (sp?) stimulates - rather than stifles further - the economy.
"Preventing STD is bad for America? Only in the far right bizarro world."
Um. I don't believe I said that. Do you see where any Republican said that, Ducky?
Stop the insults...I've warned you and I will delete. No problem.
... ducky, but please explain how a health commissar (sp?) stimulates - rather than stifles further - the economy.
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Geez, I don't know. Maybe spending 20% of every health dollar on insurance companies that perform no useful service and cherry pick customers insuring that health care dollars never really go to maintaining health is going to be a problem as these leeches try to maintain their vigorish during the downturn and place a larger strain on state and local employee health insurance costs and business costs.
Just a guess.
Ducky: GOOD try.
But, if you'd read the bill, you'd see that the government will now cherry pick which elderly REALLY need help and which ..really..don't...they're OLD, let 'em go.
If that what this COMMISSAR will be championing, we're in bigger trouble that even good Conservatives thought.
Well done as usual Z. The end result of this pork-a-thon can only be less individual freedom (which of course is the reason for the pork-a-thon).
Comrade Ducky: Thanks for the comic relief in all your posts. As for Frank Page, he isn't much of conservative. He's a "greenie", which is as far from political conservatism as you can get. I'm pretty certain the Obamanator knew this. Hi Ho.
Thank you Debbie's Choice. Nice to meet you!
Amen to that thought FJ! The left is ALL OVER the Fairness Doctrine as we speak. From what I hear, they're trying to work it through the FCC right now. If they keep it up, they won't even get their two years....
Z, STD prevention IS a stimulus of sorts. :-)
Morgan
Thank you Law & Order. I'll come over to your house and see what you're thinking.
Thank you heidianne! I'm glad that you liked what I wrote, and sad that I was compelled to write it.
Ducky wrote:
"Geez, I don't know. Maybe spending 20% of every health dollar on insurance companies that perform no useful service and cherry pick customers insuring that health care dollars never really go to maintaining health is going to be a problem as these leeches try to maintain their vigorish during the downturn and place a larger strain on state and local employee health insurance costs and business costs."
You don't have ANY understanding of the insurance business, do you? It matters you know. Pick up a BASIC insurance book at BAM or a used bookstore. You embarrass yourself. I take that back, maybe not. LOL!
Morgan
What's a "greenie". Now I know it involves some sort of ecological thought but I'd be interested in some details.
My thoughts: Far right evangelicals think they are the chosen people and can use up the world's resources at whatever rate and for whatever purpose their "choseness" dictates.
Sounds a little off the wall to me but maybe you can fill in the details.
"Far right Evangelicals"..my GOSH, Ducky..you are on a rampage.
I remember someone discussed the Pope in less than flattering terms, but VERY subtly, and you went ballistic on the CATHOLIC BASHER.
So, what do I do with your constant nasty remarks about Protestants?
Funny, you came unglued at TMW's site, I believe it was...about the Anti Catholic remark (maybe one of Mustang's commenters, not sure?) yet when I censor you for broadbrushing a whole group of good people, you scream FOUL (Or should I say FOWL, DUCKy?)
A "Greenie" from anybody's understanding who THINKS, such as Larry Durham here, is someone who STILL THINKS the globe's going to hell in a hot handbag due to HUMANS. With ALL the evidence that's quite opposite AND the evidence that we're actually turning into a cold period.....CYCLES HAPPEN.
A "GREENIE" is someone who'd listen to ALL sides, unlike your side which has huge conferences only inviting like thinkers..you can't make that up. And WE PAY! Unreal.
Sue's Plan for a More United America Through Revised Presidential Elections
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This plan requires two Constitutional Amendments
1. Repeal of the Electoral System
2. Ammendment to change presidential term to six years with no reelection.
Also - a limit on campaign spending
When presidential elections are held there would be a candidate from each major party - plus candidates for the independent partes. No vice-presidential candidates.
The candidate receiving the majority of votes becomes the president, and the candidate with the next highest amount of votes is the vice-president.
Thus two different parties would be working together, making for a unifying result. At the end of the six year term, neither the president or vice-president is allowed to run again - ever.
Cabinet - Condisering the Secretary of State position to be the highest, the president is allowed to make that choice. Then the vice-president makes the next highest choice, and so on, until the cabinet members are chosen.
Both the president and vice-president and their respective parties would work together on the ensuing issues.
This is as far as I have it worked out.
A "Greenie" from anybody's understanding who THINKS, such as Larry Durham here, is someone who STILL THINKS the globe's going to hell in a hot handbag due to HUMANS. With ALL the evidence that's quite opposite AND the evidence that we're actually turning into a cold period.....CYCLES HAPPEN.
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Well I certainly believe that cycles happen. Just as I believe that human activity may contribute to this cycle in a way that makes it much more violent than the world can easily recover from.
Of course the matter has not been proven and is still being researched.
Meanwhile, I can't understand why the prudent activity of hedging our bets and moving to a more sustainable life style is anything but sensible.
I fear the real reason may be that it interferes with eschatlogy. Again, I may be wrong but complete resistance to limiting carbon production as well as the mandatory embrace of the infallible market seem to be part of the right wing play book.
... and no criticism of either is permitted. Imagine, something as complex as climatology and you have it down. Absolutely nailed down without a glint of the idea that you may be too optimistic.
Z, where does one even begin to share this information with others who have only recently begun to see the whole picture?
I must say it's quite overwhelming to some and they tend to what to ignore rather than be informed.
Blessings.
Ducky...we're getting somewhere!
You said "Well I certainly believe that cycles happen. Just as I believe that human activity may contribute to this cycle in a way that makes it much more violent than the world can easily recover from."
I, too, believe a tiny contribution to cycles is from human activity. It's probably tinier if one believes the scientists than I think it is, but it's there. No, no violence. Why in the world would scientists with at least the expertise as Gore's buddies not want to help if they saw violence in the cards?
"Of course the matter has not been proven and is still being researched."
Research is hindered when the more outspoken and better funded Gore people are not including the opposite viewpoint.
Meanwhile, I can't understand why the prudent activity of hedging our bets and moving to a more sustainable life style is anything but sensible.
You said "I fear the real reason may be that it interferes with eschatlogy. Again, I may be wrong but complete resistance to limiting carbon production as well as the mandatory embrace of the infallible market seem to be part of the right wing play book.
... and no criticism of either is permitted. Imagine, something as complex as climatology and you have it down. Absolutely nailed down without a glint of the idea that you may be too optimistic."
No, nobody's saying they know it all...but sane people are trying to get the opposing viewpoint listened to and respected and studied, that's all. Who other than the left with an agenda would get the kind of financial backing to exclude rational thought and diverse opinions?
How many times do I have to remind you that I don't KNOW a single Christian who thinks we have to let the earth rot because we're all going to leave our underwear behind at the sound of trumpets? NOBODY, Ducky..that's YOUR pipe dream way of insulting,that's all.
Sue, this is excellent enough that I'd very much like to post it under your name. Just 'Sue', right?
And may I do that? A whole post based on "This is Sue's idea as to what could solve divisiveness in our country'...something like that? Or YOU name it if you like.
Honestly, I HATE TO SAY this, but I love much of it! (Mr. Z, too!) Good going, girl!
IHS...who knows how? you're right, this stuff MUST become known.
With a dishonest media, what chance has America to make informed choices?
Sue, with such a plan, the election would be campaigned for in about 12 different cities nationwide, and the rest of the country would be IGNORED! Resulting in mob rule.
No matter what limits you put on campaign spending, money would find it's way to candidates in BAGFULS! DC is too powerful, and the money is there to influence the Cleptocrats. If we manage to LIMIT Washington's power and decentralize it back to the states, that qwould do MUCH more to limit money-based corruption. The Fairtax is the best idea I can think of.
Morgan
IHS, He may be guiding YOUR hand! :-) Information is power.
Morgan
Morgan "HE" is always guiding IHS's hand!!!
AND, as far as the electoral college...I know that's an excellent argument but there are a lot of people who feel that would NOT happen were we to get rid of it...??
Ya, the FAIR TAX right now is "Geithner and Daschle think it's FAIR not to PAY TAXES!" HA!!!
Z, you know how I feel about the enviro-wacko movement. Just yesterday I saw an INSANE headline on Comcast news. It was something to the effect of "World Warming Faster than Expected"! WHERE THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE GETTING THEIR MEASUREMENTS?! The origin of the story is Reuters (Pravda West).
It's now proven that the planet's been COOLING for at least the last 6 years and THIS year is the coldest yet in this cycle! And guess what? The Sun's spots have been absent. There is a DIRECT correlation between sunspot activity and planetary temps in our solar system, what a surprise!
The enviro movement is a quasi-fascist movement whose intention is to regulate the lives of citizens in the name of "saving the planet."
You have to wonder why more people don't step back and ask themselves, "how in the HELL can we change the world's temperature? Is it possible that I've been lied to?"
Then again, these same dupes elected the Chosen One...
Morgan
Z wrote:
"AND, as far as the electoral college...I know that's an excellent argument but there are a lot of people who feel that would NOT happen were we to get rid of it...??"
I could write a long and involved piece about this, I think it's a terrible idea that would leave the heartland (flyover country) even more underrepresented than it is now. It would be the death nell of republicanism (small r) and this idea has been a dream of the left for a long time. State's rights for at least 30 states would be decimated and the list goes on.
New ideas are fantastic in the sense that they stimulate conversation, but most of this idea isn't new at all to leftists. I'm referring to the national popular election idea of course.
I'm not so sure about the 6 year idea either, look how DISASTROUS that would have been with Carter. Think of how bad it would be to give the Kenyan 6 years...:-)
Morgan
Well, Morgan, you have a good point about six years with Carter....or what we've got now, for that matter!
I'm not 1000% clear on the elect. coll., obviously.....just seemed wrong that the 'real votes' were overpowered by that, seemingly?
What ever happened to one man=one vote? Or am I just being naive?
I'm still toying with publishing Sue's thoughts and hoping we get some good pro/con discussions...we'll see.
z i think the american public has been "warned" by you and many others! what can be so frustrating is the fact it seems to fall on deaf ears! all we have is the faith the truth will finally clear the vision of those blinded!! good post!
Ducky I skimmed your Warmista posts. There's something that you need to know, it's incumbent upon YOU to prove manmade global warming! Here's why:
Your "theory" is based on outright lies and thin damned ice!
Let's just look at 1 aspect of the hoax; the contention that fossil fuel burning is releasing the CO2 which is warming the planet as a greenhouse gas. That's the central thesis of the entire hoax. Here are a few FACTS!
1. CO2 is an AWFUL heat-trapping gas, it's totally inefficient for that purpose. The molecular structure isn't up to the task. Go to this site and do some studying. Methane is a GOOD heat-trapping gas.
http://icecap.us/index.php
2. CO2 isn't even a POLLUTANT! It's a gas that's absolutely vital to life on planet Earth, the more, the better.
3. In past warming cycles it has been scientifically PROVEN that CO2 is a LAGGING factor in global warming. IOW, the planet warms up, more stuff grows on land and in the water, and more CO2 is produced. It usually lags by at least 100 years for significant amounts.
I could go on and on about GW, but the fact is, real science doesn't support this hoax!
Morgan
Z wrote:
"I'm still toying with publishing Sue's thoughts and hoping we get some good pro/con discussions...we'll see."
I think it's a great idea that would REALLY stir the puddin'.
Morgan
Z, i'm not sure if you've read this or not, but it's IMPORTANT!
http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/02/12/we-are-all-illiterates-now/
I haven't always been a fan of Michael Ledeen, but he hits this one out of the park!
Morgan
Z,
I wouldn't mind discussing some of Sue's ideas. She's right about them requiring constitutional amendments to impose. One in particular is the subject of an amendment when it proved to make government almost unworkable. Suffice it to say Morgan is right. Politicians won't give up power, so our argument would be purely academic. Let the games begin.
Z, what have I missed?
Did Sue write something and I missed it?
I probably did, this day got real crazy around 1,2 East Coast Time for me, I don't think I'll ever catch up to the conversations, someone want to get me the Clift Note version?
Blessings.
Here it is, IHS!!
From Sue:
Sue's Plan for a More United America Through Revised Presidential Elections
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This plan requires two Constitutional Amendments
1. Repeal of the Electoral System
2. Ammendment to change presidential term to six years with no reelection.
Also - a limit on campaign spending
When presidential elections are held there would be a candidate from each major party - plus candidates for the independent partes. No vice-presidential candidates.
The candidate receiving the majority of votes becomes the president, and the candidate with the next highest amount of votes is the vice-president.
Thus two different parties would be working together, making for a unifying result. At the end of the six year term, neither the president or vice-president is allowed to run again - ever.
Cabinet - Condisering the Secretary of State position to be the highest, the president is allowed to make that choice. Then the vice-president makes the next highest choice, and so on, until the cabinet members are chosen.
Both the president and vice-president and their respective parties would work together on the ensuing issues.
This is as far as I have it worked out.
To Law & Order Teacher:
I tried posting this at your site, but I have a problem with Blogger, and can ONLY post anonymously.
"Fantastic and thought-provoking post LAOT!
A redress of grievences is indeed needed, and my clumsy attempt to voice those greivences is only a start. Someone of YOUR learning and intelligence seems ideally suited to the task. Can you come up with a workable "framework" for this redress? I'd love to get this started as a movement, and give the ball to someone like Mike Pence. Just thinking out loud.
Talkshow host Neal Boortz has discussed starting a Constitutional Convention at the state level, calling for 2 distinct "things."
1. Implementation of the Fairtax
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
2. Implementation of congress-wide term limits
The FairTax is more important for a number of reasons. The idea is that Congress would rebel at term limits and ask, "what will it take for this to go away?"
We want The FairTax! It's the best known way to decentralize power.
Check out Boortz.com, the idea of a Constitutional Convention may still be on his site. I think it may also be wrought with danger in that leftists can also table ideas to be voted on, but I'm not sure about this."
Morgan
This interesting, and I guess the first question I would raise is, 'why the limit on fundraising?'
If we are making the the second place person vice pres. then wouldn't it follow the line of the set up by making the third person Secretary of State and then start the choosing of cabinet with the president making the first selection and then vice then pres. again?
Looking forward to the rest of it, also the only thing I see is the ridding of the electoral college and getting the amendments.
Thanks for the update, Z.
Blessings.
Great Post Morgan. Your passion is infectious! I have a feeling the Supreme Court will be busier than usual the next four years, at least I hope so.
"Sue, with such a plan, the election would be campaigned for in about 12 different cities nationwide, and the rest of the country would be IGNORED! Resulting in mob rule."
Exactly.
Ducky, if we conservatives are impotent, why are you engaging in the new leftist talking points referring to Rush Limbaugh to "sell" a "Censorship Doctrine"?
Why do the left try to "clean" the net of certain videos, or criticisms? Impotent huh?
Or is it only the left who is entitled to free speech and dissent? Are you not what you pretend to be? Seems not!
I want an answer from you Ducky!
Pris
Maybe I didn't make it clear:
The one receiving the most votes is president. The person receiving the second most votes would be vice-president. No vice-presidential candidates. The president and vp would be from opposing parties.
The sec. of state (assuming that position is the highest) would be chosen by the president. The vp would chose the next cabinet position and then the pres. the next, and so on (like kids chosing up sides for a game).
I would be for abolishing the electoral system.
For a long time I have been in favor of the 6 year term - only once. This eliminates the distracting thought of reelection for the president. And the second term is one of prestige. A one term president is not thought of as well.
Thank you Pris! I was worried about sounding hyperbolic. It seems that I wasn't the ONLY one who understands we have serious problems with our freedom.
Morgan
Sue, I get what your saying but I was wondering since the SecState is the next highest office, then why not let the third place person be it? This puts the top offices from three different parties and then we can go with the school yard picks as you suggested from there.
Blessings.
Pris, a 'censorship doctrine'? RUSH? Ducky implied that? I'm too pooped to read all the comments.
That's RIDICULOUS.
Let's talk about the cenSUS, while we're at it...Obama's people wanting it run by the WH for a change; so they can make redistricting work as well for the libs as it's destroyed whole Republican block districting locally....very unfair and very planned.
Sue....there's a lot of good reasoning FOR the electoral college....Don't you think Morgan's right that fly-over America would lose a lot? under represented??
Z, I'm calling the "Fairness Doctrine" the "Censorship Doctrine" because that's what it is.
Also, I've noticed Rush has been mentioned by Obama, Carville, Begalla, the usual suspects. It's clear to me, they're using him as an example of conservative talk radio hosts, to say he has too much unchallenged power. Now, Ducky mentions him. This is their latest tactic.
Pris
Pris, the "Pusch" for the Censorship Doctrine IS indeed happening! The time for marching on DC could come sooner than we think. It's more important than work, believe it or not.
Morgan
Slipping full-blown Socialized Medicine into an ECONOMIC "stimulus" bill makes less sense and shows less integrity than pouring an iced mixture of nine parts gin and one part vermouth into the chalice at a communion service.
That only ONE member out of 535 read the bill before voting on it defies analysis.
The viperous behavior of Congress is beyond appalling. It is surreal.
~ FreeThinke aka "Blind Pete" (we hope temporarily)
FT! G-d bless you sir! I sure do hope you're feeling better.
Morgan
Morgan,
The time for marching on Washington is long past.
Let us hope and pray that the next terrorist attack will smack the Capitol to dust --- while both bastard houses are in session.
Starting over again from from scratch in the chaos sure to follow MIGHT give us a chance to recover our freedom. There is absolutely NO HOPE for "reform" whatsoever. We are too far gone down the road to The Socialist Worker's Paradise to turn back. The road, itself, must be DESTROYED.
~ FreeThinke (Blind Pete)
IHS - Because the Secretary of State is not an elective position, but rather should be chosen on ability and qualification to do the job.
I hope you're wrong Rog. I'll act on that hope too.
Morgan
PS: I hope y'all realize I am only indulging my usual penchant for hyperbole?
Thank you, Morgan, for your kind words. My eye is better but still far from well. However, I am grateful to be able to see at all. God has been very good to me.
~ FT
PPS: I hope I'm wrong too.
It wouldn't be the first time.
§;-D
THANK YOU, EVERYONE for your prayers on my behalf. Please keep them coming as they are still very much needed, even though I am better.
~ FT
FT! WELCOME BACK!! We'll take you any way we can get you!!
pris...I see...Ya, OBAMA complaining about TOO MUCH POWER (WHAT???!!)
And, you know that Begala and Stephanopolous and Carville talk EVERY single day on the phone with their GREAT BUDDY, Rahm Emanuel, right? Ya, the media dropped that news REAL fast. But it was there..with quotes by them all, including Mary Matalin confirming that. NO BIAS, right?
NO abuse of power, RIGHT? CHOKE.
I'm watching HANNITY and feeling SICk...this country's in SUCH trouble.
He tried to nail Willie Brown on STD monies and Brown just slips effortlessly into the typical mantra "creating jobs, Sean" WHAT?
We'll say some more for you then!
BTW a small part of me worries that you may be right.
Morgan
Morgan,
I would be happy to research this idea. Your essay was so well-written that it encompassed several of my greatest fears. This is only the beginning.
As for a constitutional convention, that would be something that you would have to be driven by the states. I don't know what kind of firepower that would take. Maybe Neal Boortz has that kind of firepower, but politics are heavily involved in that type of scenario.
Something along the lines of the Hartford Convention is not a situation that was bound up in state legislatures. I think I can envision some sort of similar grassroots movement powered by conservative bloggers and other interested parties. If that catches on we could possibly go the constitutional convention route.
My feeling is that through the extraordinary power of internet we can contact a lot of people and get the ball rolling.
We must watch out who we ally ourselves with. I don't have the taste for getting involved with some of jerks I encountered when I was a cop. I would want us to be the types that represent legitimate political dissent and a redress of our grievances as is available to any US citizen.
Now sir, for your homework assignment. Read Federalist 10 by James Madison. It speaks to the presence of factions and the necessity of respecting the rights of the minority while still controlling adverse effects of factions on a republican form of government.
Interestingly enough, the Hartford Convention came to be during the presidency of Madison and during the War of 1812.
Thanks again for your interest.
Z, can you help us out with our budding project?
Thanks L&O Teacher! I WILL look into this tomorrow after I'm done with work. I have the Fed Papers AND a translation. :-) This sounds like it could be a worthwhile endeavor!
Morgan
Morgan,
I emailed Boortz. We'll see what happens there. Thanks.
I we should open our windows and shout "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."
Hat tip "Network" great movie.
Go for it, Guys!
I'll be reading!!
FT, good to see you back. We'll keep those prayers coming. So glad you're making progress.
L&W, I think a Constitutional Convention could boomerang on us. We can't trust too many of these politicians to be honorable enough to do the right thing. Frankly, it scares me to death.
Pris
Oops -
Excuse me I meant L&O.
Pris
Pris,
I too, don't feel real good about a constitutional convention. That takes some serious political firepower. That said, if that should happen it would be great.
Something modeled on the Hartford Convention of 1814-15 would be citizen driven. It is a way of registering our disdain for the current political situation. These gentlemen conferenced and came up with seven proposed constitutional amendments.
They were en route to give them to the Washington DC power players when they received word that the War of 1812 ended, making their deliberations moot.
It's something I think is worth exploring. After fashioning a set of proposals we should present them to a friendly congressperson.
We must register our discontent and seek a redress of our grievances.
Well, L&O, I'm not well schooled on this subject as you appear to be, but, if something like what you describe took place, I think Pandora's Box would be opened.
Those who would oppose your grievances, would take advantage of the opportunity to demand their grievances with the American Constitution as it stands now, be heard as well, and the games would begin.
I think the Constitution is fine, as it is. The problem we have is there are activist judges who have creative interpretations, or a Supreme Court Justice who cites International Law in his opinion, or redefines Public use, as Public purpose, as in the Keloh(sp?) decision.
What you describe is not really a formal Constitutional convention, but a group of citizens instead of delegates, who get together to seek redress of grievances.
Even so, I just have a feeling it would be a free for all, and spin out of control. At the same time I do understand the motivation behind your idea, I just feel uneasy about it, given the people in power today.
Perhaps if our backs are against the wall, there would be little to lose, but, there also could be everything to lose as well.
Pris
With all due respect, Pris I have a question. What stops these malcontents you describe from coming forth now? The convention I describe is not legally binding, it is a group of citizens exercising their right to dissent. We are able to question our government and I would argue the time has come.
I don't see things getting better, do you?
Hi L&O, well that's true, and you're not really calling for a formal Constitutional convention, but seeking redress for your grievances, which of course is our right.
No, I don't see things getting any better.
Pris
Pris,
It would seem that the movement has begun. Demonstrators are coming out. It is interesting that this may have galvinized the conservatives in a way they couldn't/wouldn't do themselves. Oftentime throughout history you find that the greatest upheavals come as a result of an forseen event.
Who would have thought that BO would jump knee deep into it this fast. It is precisely this overreach that may have lit the fuse.
Search back to the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo in 1914 that lit the fuse of the First World War.
Should be unforseen.
"Who would have thought that BO would jump knee deep into it this fast. It is precisely this overreach that may have lit the fuse."
Yes, I hope so. I too thought it too fast and the way it was done, exploiting the economic distress. And done behind closed doors, sneakily, leaving the people out of the debate, what little there was of that.
The left is drunk with their new found power, and feels invincible. They're behaving like a dictatorship, and have been politically careless, which is born out of arrogance, and it shows.
Pris
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